I have found several threads on breathers and a few hose routing diagrams but none seem to address the set up on my car.
I have a 1970 914 with (I am told) a 72 1.7L engine in it. It has a breathe set up that is closer to the 2.0L I have than the 71 1.7L I have.
The 72 1.7L has vent tubes in each head plumbed to the "tee" fitting next to the oil filler. From there the hose goes to the air cleaner (just like my 2.0L). The oil filler has a PCV valve (check valve) on it with a hose connected. I need to know how this hose should be plumbed. On my 2.0L it is connected to a nipple on the intake plenum. On the 72 1.7 it is tee'd (using a copper plumbing tee with pipes solder into it) into the charcoal canister hose going to the air cleaner.
I think this hose should be connected to the intake so fumes can be drawn in and burned in the engine but there are no available nipples on the intake close to the size of the hose. The largest nipple (probably the right size) connects to the Warm up regulator with a 1 inch long hose with no room for a tee fitting. The next largest (probably too small) is the hose going to the MAP sensor.
With a PCV valve and this hose connected to the air cleaner it serves no purpose since with out some suction nothing will pass the PCV valve.
My 71 1.7 does not have the vents in the heads and only has a fitting on the oil filler, no PCV valve.
Where should this hose connect?
Thanks
Jim
It should not be "t"d to the C canister line.
If you can take some pics, that would help.
on 72 Djet 1.7 the PCV hose goes to the plenum.
It goes to the fitting on the passenger side, closest to the rear of the car.
The fitting has a double divider rubber/metal fitting on it with two male end. One is for the PCV hose (red) and the other is for the Decel valve (small one)
Rich
I will try to get some pics to post.
The plenum on this engine only has 1 fitting on the passenger side which is connected to the Manifold Pressure Sensor and it does not have a decel valve.
I believe I have 4 maybe 5 1.7/1.8 plenums and no 2 of them have the same configuration of nipples on them.
Is there supose to be any sore of restictor in the hose or fitting or does the PCV valve restrict the flow enough that it is not like a big vacuum leak?
Thanks for all the info
Jim
There is no restrictor nor one way vacuum valve like water cooled cars.
Just pick a plenum and plug it in somewhere.
Or post a pick of the plenums, we can tell you which one is for a 1.7
Rich
Not quite sure what you are asking to do BUT, the threee ports viewed in the pic. of the plenum are,
Top left( bigger port) = PCV valve port
Bottom left, ( under the bigger port) = MPS.
Threaded hole+ ATS
The bigger port on the other side( not pictured) is for the AAR.
I have a 73 1.7, same hose routing. The PCV valve is plumbed to the large port on the pass. side of the plenum( the bigger port of what you have pictured) the vents for the heads , AFTER they are "t'd to the breather on the fan shround, go to a port on the air cleaner housing.
This is the hose routing you can find on Pelican parts web site.
Hope this helps
Oh, Ok, now I get what you where asking. If you where to switch the air boxes, its' not that hard to do.
You should be able to find the hose routing diagram on PP site. If you go to the 914 page, there should be a menu on the left for tech articles, It should be in there.
Maybe someone here can add a link, i don't know how.
I would suggest in this order.
1) replace the plenum with the one in the pics that has more ports.
2) make a dual connection to the existin plenum for the PCV hose
3) get a breather box and drill out the pcv valve and use it as a drain for the breather box...
Rich
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