Hey I came across a 914 for sale. I talked with the guy on the phone & he says it's a 73 2.0 car. It was in dry storage for a while but he couldn't find any rust. BOth trunks look good & he says below the battery there is NO Rust. I know I will believe that when I see it myself. Still I asked him to send me some pictures. I see bumper tits on the front bumper & know it's a 74. I also see Mahle wheels & an LE front spoiler . Car runs & shifts great too! The side stripe isn't the right color for an LE though right?
How can I find out if it is an LE?
Vin#?
Then where would I find LE vins?
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LE Mahles would have the centers painted. If it was an LE, the Porsche stripe would be orange.
Still might be a good deal.
Email Jeff Bowlsby with the VIN, Chassis Number, Paint Code ... he has the database with the range that LEs were built in.
If the Mahles are a rough finish (not slick) they probably have been media blasted to remove the paint. If the finish is slick silver, they are probably regualar Mahles.
You can also look in the trunk by the gas tank area, inside the doors, engine compartment, etc and see if there was a color change.
A good indication of a LE, via Jeff Bowlby's web site:
Either L80E (Light Ivory) or L041 (Black) and manufactured between Feb and July 1974.
I agree with Kelty360 that the wheels and spoiler should be painted Orange (Creamsicle) and the strip should also be Orange, but you can't judge a book by it's cover....
Here's a LE (Creamsicle) I discovered after I purchased it as a donor car. After studying Jeff's web site I was convinced it was a LE, so I sent off for the COA and confirmed that indeed it was a Creamsicle ('Can Am' Limited Edition Package).... Here's what the car looks like today, before I start restoration....
And COA....
-- Rob
Jamie, I have only one word for you...
Hey, Jamie's car finished a run yesterday... he needs a new project!
if it's a 73, i don't think it's an LE because LE's were MY 74. you can see from the COA in a post above that the LE's were MY 74
Am I wrong or didn't all LE's get sway bars ? One of mine fits the criteria ( vin number, no vinyl ) except for the sway bars
It has some possibilities. I've got to see it in person to have a better idea. Yet there are some things I have noticed. The gages do have the black center, it's vin# does fall into the LE possibles, It has all the options, The valance is an LE (when I go see it I will see if it has the tell tale #'s on the backside), The paint code is the L80E & the chassis #also falls into the possible category. Having said all that I am not getting my hopes up.
Price wise if it actually runs great & has No rust as stated I will be buying it anyway. It will be a BIG plus if it ends up being an LE too! If so it is not a registered on on Jeff's site yet. Either way looks like I am getting sucked back in to multiple 914's
Its a Licorice LE , untracable, very rare. If it truly is that rust free score.
Jamie do you run a 914 wanted add ?
Okay I just talked to him & am going up to see it tommorow. One other thing he says is I noiced when I was getting the vin# on the door that the rocker has some orange paint underneath it. So t looks like they painted the rockers at one time.
I think to myself No Freakin way! The Mahles also have kind of a rough finish or at least are not a real smooth silver I'd be lying if I didn't say I am getting excited now Can u say Creamsicle?
Rear targa bar trim is black also. The evidence looks like it's coming together for a Creamsicle!
Keep us posted.
I was also wondering about this one here in Salt Lake City.
http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/cto/844193608.html
Looks like Fuchs and chrome bumpers....but I have heard of people not liking the looks of the LE's and changing quite a bit on them.
Good find though! I hope it is an LE that you uncovered!!!
Well if it were me I would buy it if it was an le or not, if the price was right
Jamie Have you seen the four 914s in Salem??
CCLINMYLIST
Is it just me or does the left side of the front bumper show some Orange paint?
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I saw the ad on Craigslist myself and was wondering. Thanks for the info. It is getting to be such a small community when deveryone knows where every car comes from.
This car is not on Craigslist. There is a 74 in Newberg for sale for $1500. This car is a friend of a friend deal. It is not listed for sale anywhere. Lucky find for me
So.......what's the verdict? Did you see it today?
maybe he's out celebrating?
-Mike
Man Jamie,
When did you have time to squeeze this into your weekend? What with the drive on Saturday and all. You must have a VERY PATIENT WIFE!!!
Good to see you on Saturday.
Man all I can remember is seeing your smiling face in my rear view mirror coming down into Cougar and climbing up into Amboy. I was mpressed with your cars power and I was up in front. Your car also semed to be handling the twities very well. I couldn't see any body roll. Do you have sway bars on that car?
Okay so YES IT IS A CREAMSICLE I have the original window sticker from the dealership! Here are some pictures & I am excited that it really is an 74 LE creamsicle It runs but could use some fine tuning. Overall pretty solid. The front trunk is great with no rust. The rear trunk has some starting below the tailights but not replace the panel bad. The battery tray is another story. So much for no rust by the battery or below (lying stinking poser ).
Now to the downside. There is rust
It has a branded title Which really sucks as the only body damage I can find is the front drivers side fender. It was obviously swiped by something. Didn't screw anything else up just that fender. Really pisses me off that it has a branded title because of that. It needs a new fender but would be just fine once replaced.
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Congratulations on a great find.
Sweet, I love a happy ending
That looks to be a good candidate for a JRustoration
Wow I think the title wont make a huge difference if the quality of the car represents itself. Great find. Good luck restoring it.
I really hate you.... Okay... not really. Nice find Jamie.... This is worth everything being a 914 freak is about.
I am not sure how to proceed. For me to restore this right I would need to sell my other one. Not totally opposed to that but . I'm just not sure I am ready to sell my 8. What do I do? Anybody out there want to trade me a nice six with flares for a Creamsicle
I'll trade you funny looking blue & green racecar with a 2056.
Nice find, clean it up, tune it, flip it!
Jim
Jamie, congratulations....
-- Rob
Congrats on the find restore and keep us posted
Congrats Jamie...it's always fun hearing about barn finds that turn out to be gems. It always amazes me when an owner says "no rust." I bet he is from back east...sorry no offense guys, but it's all relative.
With my little understanding of the value of this car in the condition it is in, I would say flip it for top dollar. A proper restoration will cost you $ unless you do it yourself. And do it correctly!!!
I bet you get some great trade deals that will make you smile...way to go, Jamie!
SCORE!
Sell the V8 restore that puppy.
From the few Pics it looks like its pretty stock.
What about the eng. is it #s matching?
I don't know on the engine until I get a COA. In looking at the car I would be surprised if this engine has been changed. Doesn't look like it's even been out o the car? If it has it was a long time ago. SO I am very optimistic that this s all numbers matching. NOt sure if the LE front valance is a stock or a replacement. It does have a crack in it either way. I'll pull it off tonight to see. Feeling good about it today. I think a restore is in my future. Maybe not a ful blown but I think I will get it back to looking like an LE before I do anything with it? It's all up in the air though
Nice score, Jamie. Look on jeff Bowlsbys site for the details on the LE spoiler as they are different from the aftermarket ones. Fiberglass is easy to repair!
Sweeeet find!!! If the valance is original repair it. The OEM one have a different angle on the sides. If it just cracked it should be a easy repair.
How do I go about getting a COA from Porsche?
I also need to replace the front fender. What is the best way to do it? I've got a car I can cut one off of. Where do I want to cut to have what I need for the new one? I will be having someone else put the new fender on. I do not have the welding ability to do it at this point. I also want it done right.
Going to start to strip it down this weekend. Pull all the bumpers, Valances & Rockers. I'll get them media blasted (if that is the best way to go). Depending on how soon I am going to do bodywork I may pull the wheels to prep for Phoenix Red along with the other pieces. Once the rockers are off I'll have a better idea of the rust damage there. Jack posts seemed solid but the passenger side I could tell had build up(road crap) around it.
Top dash will need recovered or replaced with a good one. The seats need redone along with center cushion. Door panels are uncut & perfect . Rest of the dash is excellent. All gages are working & look great. All knobs on the dash are pristine along with the working stock Blaupunk radio . The carpet is a redish color & I'm asuming was replaced from stock . Gas pedal wobbles with your foot pushing on it?
Front bumper top is wavy while the rear has the issues by the liscence late lights. Thats what I can think of now anyway . I am thinking resto now & I must be losing it
Jamie...
You need to fix your signature... it says "Only one 914".
Congrats on the car!
Great find! Best of luck with the restoration!
If you check out my "Green machine" progress thread you see me change the passenger front fender next week. There's a thread around here that shows Chris at CFR butt weld new fenders on. I'll have to drill the whole thing off due to damage. It's just a matter of drilling out one heck of alot of spot welds and then welding it back on. When you open the hood you can see the seam. Then look behind the front tire, there's some more there. The hard part is around the cowl and window pillar.
Congrats Jamie!
Make it a Grasshopper!
Great score.
I knew it wouldn't be long. Jamie with one 914? I don't think so.
Good find!
How do you tell if a '74 is an LE? I have a parts car that is a '74 2.0 with center console, lettering on the side, no vinyl on the sail panels, factory sway bars, etc. It is lime green...The PO rear-ended a car, but besides some front end damage it is really straight...and it really, truly has absolutely no rust.
I'll feel guilty if I've been swiping parts off rare car to keep my '75 on the road...
Congratulations. That is another early one. Funny thing the earliest ones are all creamsicles. Original engine should be near GA012400 but may be in the 12300's. What is the body #?
Congrats again Jamie.... You have a lot more to work with than mine...
BTW, your Vin#4742914409, mine is 4742914391, just 18 numbers apart....
-- Rob
Jamie, Nice find. Congrats.
Hey I have a drivers side front fender. Removed the correct way.
Call me if you need one.
CCLINFENDERBENDER
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I'll let you know Craig. Not sure if I am better of replacing the whole thing or having the current on fixed. Wish I had a body guy close I knew? Anybody know of one close to Corvallis that is reasonable???
Its really not that hard. The same fender on our newest car looked like that and it straightened pretty well with some ball peen hammers. It is pretty close now. The question is where to go if you get really close, shrinking disk and really nice or a little bit of filler?
There isn't any harm in trying it; Its only metal. Worst case you can replace the fender or have professional try after you if you can't get it done to your satisfaction.
What is the best way to get the filler on there out so I can really see the damage?
Jamie...remember this fender, you should...you helped me load this pile of parts. Using body hammers and anvil ($20 kit from harbor freight) I was able to completely reform the fender with practically no plastic filler. Yours doesn't look that bad at all from the pics. After
Ohhhhhtay! I'll go to harbor freight tommorow & get the body anvil & hammers. I surely can't do any worse than a clutz like you Mark . Okay that is a joke I just couldn't resist
Seriously I will give the body work a try. I guess if I screw it up I can always replace the whole dang piece which I considered anyway. So I will see what I can do. I guess I'll have to start an official Creamsicle Restoration thread
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Map gas it just until it starts to form small bubbles then pop it off with a screwdriver. the heat will relase it and if it cools it won't reattatch but it won't break free from the surrounding bondo as easily as it will when still hot. Oh and do'nt catch it when it falls
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What is map gas & where do i find it?
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Methylacetylene propadiene burns higher temp then propane, but for this use propane would be perfectly fine, the extra heat from Mapp isn't necessary. Lowes, HomeDepot etc sell them in small cans I would strongly recommend one of the torch heads with an ignitor button on it too.
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Okay I went to home depot & got the Mapps just like in the photo above. It works great for loosening everything up. Got it bubbling then used a screwdriver to scrap the filler off. IT was very thick in places. I would say 3/8 of an inch in spot . I also went to harbor freight yesterday for the body hammer & tools. I forgot to take pics before I went to work on it. IT went pretty well & I can see I should be able to get things pretty close. I will definately need finish work by a pro but mostly because of the weld mixed in. I'm not sure how but it looks like it cracked in a long line? Was cut? Anyway there is some weld from just above the tire forward. Then there is a break with some brass weld(?) just above the front turn signal.
Anyone have a trick for getting the top of the fender hammered up some. I can't seem to get up there with the hammer or the small anvils. Also the area below the turn signal is bent down a bit. I don't see how to get up there without some long extension to hammer.
I also took it for a 50 mile ride this morning. Drives pretty good but could use a tuneup. Clutch felt good as did the shift linkage. Going to treat the rust in the rear trunk tonight
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That kinda sucks. It has quite obviously had a clip spliced in ( poorly ) previously. As for pushing the area above the t.s. up if you have access to a welder it would be easiest to cut a slice in it, following the brass that has been globbed in there, then push the 2 sides up seperately and re-weld it. The brass will need to be completely removed to mig weld it back together. If you can or know someone that can oxy acetylene brass it could be re-welded with brass.
If you don't want to cut and re-weld you will just need to find some way to get in there und knock it into shape.
I don't think it had a spliced section. I really think something cause the cut where they welded. Not sure how but even the weld does not go from the bottom you see all the way to the fron where the brass is. There is a couple inches with no weld between the bottom weld & where the top brass is. I've got a good body guy in mind. He helped me with the restoration of my 73 8 years ago. Not sure if he is still around. I've got to see monday if he is where he was then. I will get this fixed & soon.
I knew you could do it! Great step in the right direction. Some body guys use a "slidehammer" to pull out places where you can't get behind. You can make one real cheap. Since you will be having a body guy do the finish work anyway, he will have a slide hammer. When he is done all you will have at most is just a very thin coat of plastic filler...like an 1/8th of an inch.
Lookin good!
Okay so I got the fender cutout & replaced thanks to the seattle Work party. Jeff Hines is the man. Between him & Dan Root they got the fender on & very nice. We decided it would be better to replace the area rather than fix it as it was just to hammered. Although we were able to keep all the factory welds in place. It turned out great! I'll need a small amount of filler but just a very small amount. Here are some pics (thanks to John Bovey as I forgot my dang camera).
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So what's the trick to using a hammer and a body anvil? There must be a "how to" article here somewhere???
Eric Read
Great job Jeff and Jamie...
Nice job. Jamie, where are you safety glasses?
Here is a pic of my COA from Porsche! Very cool
Matches up with all the info I have so YES!
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I haven't done anything to my car lately. I have been getting some parts together. I finally just found an uncracked dash. I just got my new carpet. Thanks to Morph (James & Heidi) along with a new center cushion. I also found a nice set of seats. I also got a new speedometer with everything working . Basically I have everything I need to have a concours stock interior .
Now I get to get back to the body. I'll be pulling the drivetrain over thanksgiving weekend. I need to replace my battery tray. Below is good thank goodness. The motor is pretty solid but leaking. Pretty sure the typical pushrod seals. I'll be prepping the tin for paint. This I will do myself. The rest of the paint is going somewhere to get done. Not sure where yet? Looking for someone local who will give me a nice paint job cheap . Well hoping to find someone reasonable anyway.
Oh I also need to repair the rear trunk hinge. Anyway making some progress while not actually doing alot to my car
One more thing. Has anyone had the negative porsche side decal painted on instead. Would it increase the value as opposed to the common vinyl? Or was this vinyl stock? SO which woul be better? It seems to me the pheonix red would match better if painted with the wheels? Just curious
Talk to mahoney in kelso about the paint. i got his contact info i just did a interior for him.
james
Don't paint it James..it would be non-original, cost a lot more and devalue the car...
Just keep going!
Well I haven't found the original engine. I did find one damn close though. My original case was GA012249. I found one that is GA012267. Not sure if that would be better than the GA out of the 73 that is currently in the car . Unless it is the original numbers matching one I can't imagine it making a difference. Do you think the year specific would make it more desirable?
Either way I am going to buy the motor. Always nice to have a backup .
Where did you get that information/certificate about your car from, I would love to get something like that.
*914 Freak* Be Happy!
I got a big package today in the mail. It is my perfect new dash . I packaged the sucker back up until I could get to it. Still haven't done squat to my car. Right now it is to damn cold in my basement. 30 degrees outside right now
I think I am going to read up on body work. Any good books out for that? I'd like to do the prep work before paint. I'd also like to take shot at painting the pheonix red on the bumpers, Rockers, Valances & wheels.
Hey, I painted the fairing on my BMW this fall. It took me 4 tries and I'm still not happy with it, but I got sick of trying and it's pretty close now.
Anywhooo... I can tell you a couple things not to do, when preping to paint.
For one thing double check the type of sandable primer you use. Don't use lacquer primer with acrylic paint. I actually knew that, I just didn't think they sold lacquer primer at Napa, and apparently I'm too stupid to look. Every day of my life, I live & learn...
Oh well, nothing sandpaper can't fix...
I have a touch up gun that works pretty good for small areas.
Hey Jamie you should talk to Steve Hebert about painting your car. He was the guy driving the vette at the Falling Leaf Tour drive. Steve has painted several 914's. He did the battery tray reapir on my car and also painted a bug for me. He has done alot of work for Craig and is reasonable on his prices. His shop is in Washougal. Talk to Craig. He's got his number.
Okay so after a while of not doing anything I've started taking parts off. Sending to a shop for paint a week from Wednesday. Pulled off bumpers & valances yesterday along with the rockers. Next saturday out comes the drivetrain. Then it is off to get painted. Will be a good 6 weeks at the shop for paint.
Found a local retired guy who does it in his spare time. He works about 2 days a week is all. So he will go slow but at least I can do a pay as you go with him. Nice and reasonable to work with & does great work. He did a lot of Mopar restorations & I got to look at his photo album. Got to see a very nice 69 firebird resto from start to finish.
While it is at the shop I will be pulling engine tin for powdercoating. Still debating keeping the good running 2.0 motor. Someone had replaced the original motor with one out of a 73. I found a 2.0 motor out of a 74 that is only 19 numbers off my original motor. Not sure if it will make much difference value wise as neither is the original. It would at least be year specific .
Well I didn't make much progress this morninng. I had a 2 hour window that got interupted a few to many times. Still I just need to disconnect the cv's from the tranny flanges. Then I'm ready to drop it. Not going to happen today as I have to head out for my girls bball games. Here are a few pics just so you know I actually started
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Finished pulling the drivetrain today. Only a week late . I also took off the rear bumper & drivers rocker. Wish I had a set of rollers to send the car out on. As the wheels need to come off for paint also. I may pick some up this wednesday when I go to pick up my new 73 2.0 . Here are some pics of the soon to be phoenix red parts. Also nice to see all of these parts show the original Pheonix red underneath the black paint.
Also some pics of the phucking rust on the battery tray & below . It actually isn't that bad. No holes going thru & solid even with the screwdriver test. I allready have a replacement battery tray (Thanks Dan Root). I've got to get all my paint codes for my paint guy too.
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It's officially gone! Just dropped it off at the paint guys shop. Looks like close to 3 months than 2. Oh well I just want it to be done right. I'll get some more updates as I go by to check on things
Well there were some serious delays. My paint guy got real sick. Ended up in the ICU for close to 2 weeks. My car pretty much sat for 2 months without anything being done. Not a huge deal as I was resigned for a longer wait than usual. Good news is I am going to see it on saturday. I've got to take over some rollers so I can get the tires off the Mahles before paint. I also forgot to take over my new battery tray & the front Valance. I'll be dropping those pieces off & taking some pictures. Finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel Although I still have to put it all back together .
Motor is being rebuilt & will be ready. Transmision is being rebuilt at Evil's clinic. I've got ton's of beautiful parts ready to go back on this baby. It may not be a concours winner when I am done but it sure as hell should place .
Went to see the LE today in the shop. Here are some pictures. Only 2 weeks away from paint . I picked up the Mahles today & put riv's on there for rollers. Getting the tires off them this week. Drop them back off for Pheonix red in 2 weeks. Things are loking good even though the route has been slow
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Jamie, your car looks great...I bet you're getting excited to get it back.
I'm sure your paint guy is going to....
but, be sure he pulls the headlight lids, eyebrows, and the carpet on the wall in the the front trunk to get a better paint job. It looks like he might not be planning on it. I've always pulled the headlight assemblies as well to better detail those units and below, but that's just me.
Looks great!
Got a call tonight! My LE is painted & I get to go pick it up saturday He still has to add the silver lip to my wheels. I'll grab them later next week as he has a few silvers I've got to look at to make sure it's the right one. I will post plenty of pics the second I get them
Congrats, looking forward to the pictures. Jerry Mahoney is painting my Bumblebee at the moment and he will be finished around October 3/4 so I will get it probably in 2 weeks.
- Juergen
Finally home
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Overall it looks very good. A few issues that pissed me off. The biggest being the rear trunk. Has some rust below the headlights. While he did treat it & paint it. That was all he did. He didn't fill & sand the depression from it. So it is obvious where the rust was. Also my new battery tray he put in & did an okay job on. He burnt though in one section & didn't fill the small hole left. Hardly noticable but why not fill it . Overall I not 100% happy (more like 90%). Then again I did not pay for a perfect job either. I doubt I will use him in the future knowing how things came out. I did learn I need to be completely specific about everything & put it all in writing. That way there is no misunderstanding after. All in all the rest of the car look very nice. A perfect concours car it is not. Still I think when I am done it would do well.
He still has to paint the silver lips on the mahles. They look great though. So it is on my roller Riviera's for another week. I'm hoping to throw it together enough for the falling leaf tour. I may have a little work party next weekend to do the motor install. I'll keep posting pics as I install each piece.
I am so happy to have it home after so long being away.
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Yeah Baby...thats what I'm talkin' about...
Way To Go Jamie.
Looking Good Jaime.
Looking good!
Glad to see another coming back to original.
There's such a thing as too perfect. Too perfect is when you don't want to take it out and drive it hard because the perfect paint job will get chips or scratches.
From your photos, I think your car looks awesome (coming from a guy who has a pair of 10/10 aka 10 feet or 10 mph cars).
NICE!
SO I got some work done today. I took out my old dash & got my new dash in. I did find cracks in my supposed uncracked dash. They really are small & can't be seen. Especially once in my car. I was happy to see that. I also spent more time on my interior. I've got about half my carpet in. I will be finishing my interior tommorow. Oh & I need to put my rear window back in.
I added a picture of the LE with it's new side stripe (thanks Jeff Bowlsby ). Overall they went on pretty well. I did get a few air bubbles but got them ou for the most part. I can't wait to pick up my Mahles this week. Then it will really pop.
My engine is pretty close to ready. My wrench is wrapping it up this weekend. I should have it back on monday & can put my nice powdercoated tin on it . There are a few pics of my motor. He was working on it when I stopped by. I took a quick few to add. It looks very nice & just screams add my tin
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Wow! Nice.
lookin GOOD!
Looking good! How was the game Jamie? Beavers whooped on Stanford. Even though I like Stanford (grew up 20 miles from there). I always choose Beav's over Ducks in the civil war!
Only got to a little today. I finished the carpet install. I put the soundpad that goes behind the backpad in.I needed to clamp it near the top to make sure it set good. So instaling the rear window will wait until tommorow after work. There is a picture of my new dash too. It does look nice as the cracks don't show. You need to be real closeup & looking for them to see them.
I needed to order a few seals from Mark for the doors.
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Got my wheels
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Dude, It's looking really good!!!
Looking good!
Nicely done so far...keep up the good work
very very nice.
It will be a nice feeling to drive her, huh?
Luv it!
Very, Very Nice! Look's like your ready to go 4-wheeling.
Sexy !!
it looks NEW.
Well luckily the Falling Leaf Tour is being rescheduled. 2 great things happen because of this. First I get to work on my car all day saturday. Second is I think I can actually have it ready by next week to go on the drive .
Friday night I am going up to get my motor. We will be pulling my heads as we got the 2 mixed up. CHT is on the drivers side instead of the passenger side . I was going to leave it but after asking in another thread. I thought on it more & it makes sense to just get it done now. Then I'll never have to pull the motor again.
Literally as I plan to sell this once I have it all dialed in. Well I may hold on until spring & the market overall is better. I'll be taking up all my nice powder coated tin (Thanks Conedodger ). I'll try to get some motor porn up tommorow night
VERY nicely done! You're going to have a tough time letting her go. Can't wait to see the motor porn, specially the exhaust.
Tom
BTW: it never ends....
Put some of my lights on & my rear bumper. Still need a nice set of tits for the rear. The one set I got turned out to be fronts. I need to throw some nice satin blackon my emblems, wipers & foglight grills. Didn't get to do squat over the weekend. I woke up with serious neck pain. Just super stiff & couldn't hardly lift my left arm. Got in to see a local chiropractor. Saturday was still pure hell for me. Sunday was better but was still really sore. I'm feeling much better today. SO I spent a little while on my car. Wish I could have worked on it saturday. Spent most the day on my rear watching football. Constantly moving my neck so it wouldn't stiffen up
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Schweet!
Jamie,
Your doing a great job Jamie!
I do need to get on the ball & do something. Haven't done much but look at it as I walk by. Thinking how much nicer it would be to have my stinking Excursion in the garage in this cold weather. I need to start working on it again. Thanks for the reminder Drew . I still don't have my motor but I have plenty I can do. I'll try to spend a few hours on it saturday
Just trying to keep you on task buddy! The sooner you get it done, the sooner it gets sold and then you can finish the buick V8 and the 73 (for the wife )!
Hey, Beavers at Wash. St. Saturday at 2PM! Go Beavers!!
My engine is finally done Picking it up tommorow morning. I couldn't wait to see it so I had him take a couple pics . Flywheel on it is going to get turned. Has a little surface rust but no biggie! Wonder what I'll be working on tommorow
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Are you going to clean up that tin jamie? Looks like someone blew the hell out of an engine and left it oily!
So will you put everything on the engine before you put it in the car or will you do that stuff when its mounted?
Still have my trans on the wood blocks! Supposed to pull the motor to powder coat the tins but still haven't done that? Thinking of just buying a set of 2.0 tins and coat those instead of mine.
By the way Happy Turkey day Guys!!!
Allright I finally did something. I put my rear bumper tits on (thanks Conedodger). I painted a few things black to freshen them up. Rear emblems, engine bar, Foglight grills, liscense plate frames & my windshield wiper arms. I also added my new rear trunk seals (thanks Camp914)>
I also started getting my carbs put on my motor. I am missing a couple gaskets though. Is the gasket that goes between the carbs & the Manifolds one piece or 2?
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The tin looks cleaner too! Ooohhh! I have touched those titties!!! I told you they were in great shape!
Nice work. Work inspires work. Keep it up!
Good eye I did clean up the tin too! You may have had your hands on those tits but they are mine now
Jamie,
The car is looking great--love the rear picture shot you just posted. Is that bumper top one of Mikey's? Eventually, I'll have to break down and buy both of his front and rear bumper tops.
Keep the momentum going...
Nope the rear isn't one of Marks. Found a damn near perfect one at Conedodgers Sac swap I went to last spring. I do have his front bumper top on it though. I also have some of his seals to put on. I should make decent progress today. I actually have most the saturday open. So I plan to spend alot of it in the garage . Probably get my tranny all mated up. I'd like to get the ss HE & exhaust all on too.
Is it easier to put those on once the motor & tranny are bolted in the car? I think I usually put them on after but it's been a few years. Be nice to have it all bolted together.
I got a few things done today but not as much as I'd hoped. I needed a stud puller so I decided a trip to Harbor freight was in order. Of course it is abut 40 minutes from my house. Once there of course they didn't carry a stud puller. So I bought the ATV jack alot of guys on here use for their motor installs.
Then stopped at the local VW parts place & picked up a few gaskets I was missing for my carbs. Also stopped at Knechts for some blue locktite. Ended up being a good 2 1/2 hour trip. Oh & the local tool shop for a stud puller.
Once I got back home I put together my new jack. Transfered my engine onto it. Installed my newly painted engine bar. Added the studs I was missing on the case below the flywheel for the tranny. I wet sanded some of the parts I painted & added another coat. Got my tranny out & started cleaning it up. I know I pressure washed it before Dr. Evil's tranny clinic? I didn't realize how much crap was still on there. So I'll be spendingsome time cleaning that up some more. Just wouldn't do to mate it to my nice fresh motor. Got clutch, PP & flywheel all ready to bolt up.
Hey what is the torque for the flywheel bolts?
Then I'll bolt my tranny up. Install my SS HE & exhaust. Hope to do some of it tommorow afternoon I didn't get as much done as I wanted today. Still it was a really nice to have the day dedicated to my 914.
By the way, I will be holding the swap meet again this coming spring! Probably March or April...
I am putting carbs on only to break in my motor. MY FI setup I haven't actually used. Don't know the condition of anything of it. So I will get it running with the carbs I got from you Rich. Then I will be putting my FI on it later. I have pretty much everything for my FI. Just didn't want to troubleshoot the FI when doing the break in of my motor.
Put on a few more pieces today. Foglight grills, emblems, Flywheel, Clutch & Pressure plate. I started to mate up the tranny but got interupted. So that will wait for another day. I'm hoping to get one night this week to work on it some more.
Busy week with Basketball for my girls. They have games tuesday, friday & Saturday. My son also has Bball practice wed & friday which I got roped into coaching (a first for me). Allready had one parent complain after our first practice that things weren't very organized . This after I met with the parent's before our practice to tell them this was my first year coaching & to bear with me as I learn .
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It's coming along nicely!
Your car looks amazing!
nice work Jamie
Jamie - Tonight you should be watching the Civil War game instead of working on the car! We need your support!
Go Beavers!!!!!
I finally got some work done today.
Installed my new targa seal! That is one slow PITA of a job. Turned out nice though.
Installed me windshield trim. It was used trim & I can't say I really like how it turned out. It looks okay from a distance but up close it's not that good. Guy I had install the windshield did me no favors. Still it's on & isn't going to get much better without new trim & possible reinstalling the windshield. With all new clips
I worked on my interior some more. Got my dash gages reinstalled along with the lower dash. Was prepping to put the plates on the door jams but couldn't find my gamn rivet gun. I could swear I bought one just for the job too. Oh well I am sure it will turn up once I go buy another one
was going to install my rear wndow again but turns out the 2 I have are scratched. I am going to have Morph hopefully bring me one tommorow. Otherwise I am going to put a scratched one in. One is right behind the passenger seat anyway so it won't really be noticable anyway.
It was really nice to have my saturday to work on my car. It's been quite a while
That LE is a really clean looking car.
Nice to see ya today
james
Nice! time for some Beer!
Snapped a picture with the new targa seal installed & the top on. Progress has been slow but I am ready to get going again
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yeah get your butt in gear! LOL
Looking good Jamie! You got little less than two months to get her done son! I gotta get my ass going also. Just ordered a bunch of stuff from Morph for my interior.
I got quite a bit done today. Put my rear window back in (did it a while ago & pulled it as I just didn't get it quite right). Put all trim pieces back on.
Installed the center console, backpad & seats
Center cushion (thanks Morph) .
Installed inner door seals (thanks Mikey914) Have the outer door seals to do
Installed door threshold plates (Thanks Dave)
Its been so long I couldn't find some parts. Luckily I have my 73 here to swipe pieces/hardware from.
I've got my door panels all ready to go but need to get endcaps & the triangle window seal from Mikey914. So those will go on along with the door panels.
I will have a delay installing my engine. Just not happy with the battery tray install or the area around it. I'm going to pull it off & redo it. I'm also going to replace the seal channel below the batter tray. It had some rust & has some little chunks missing. I'm going to get that all cleaned up as it just pisses me off That area should have been taken care of by my paint guy. At least it will be done right.
Overall it was a kick ass day. It was beautiful & sunny. I spent the day in & out of the garage between 914's
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Looking good! Are you going to pull the fresh air box and put in a black screen?
What happened to your clutch pedal? Is this one of those rare Sporto LEs?
Lookin' great Jamie.
Is it just me or do LE's not have seat belts? Just an observation buddy!
The clutch pedal is onthe floor as it isn't hooked up. Yes no seat belts yet . I did say the interior was almost finished . I also need to buy some speakers to fit the stock speaker grills.
I also put the new letters & rain tray on the engine lid. The letters don't show that great in the pic but it's looks great.
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I never get tired of looking at these things
great job
Passenger door finished! Guess I need to clean the lense on my camera. LOL
Still need to put in the seatbelts. Find my heater lever & paint it red again. Put on drivers door panel. Working on my engine bay this weekend. Going to be a bigger job than I was figuring . What else is new
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Very Nice! I look forward to seeing this in person again.
I spent most my day saturday & a few hours today on the creamsicle. Man it was a gorgeous weekend. I got more of the interior finished. Finished the drivers door. My drivers exterior door handle was broken. I pulled apart 3 different door handles to make one. Was able to piece one together for it & rekey it to match. I spent a fair amount of time screwing with those before I got it right. Got a set of speakers out of my 73 that were still good so my stock radio is all set.
I'm not sure what these wires go to? Check the pics below. This isn't long enough to make it to the center console defrost stuff?
I also added the liscense place light to the rear. Put the aluminum channel on the door frame where the window meets when close. I need a couple seals for those. Calling Mikey914 .
I spent time getting the FI off my 73 along with a few other pieces. I'v got to start getting my FI together for this motor. Next on my list is to replace the channel in the engine bay for the seal. Just about to the point of just having to install the drivetrain
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Aren't those the defroster and interior light wires?
Wow Jamie, this is coming along really nicely!
Nice work.
Looks really good. I am inspired. I'm still waiting to get my car but next weekend I'll be a very happy camper. Keep up the good work!
Okay I've got some more done. I wasn't hapy with how the battery tray area was done. Just wasn't treated before it was shot. There was some rust in spots. Mostly where the battery tray met the wall. I sanded, cleaned up, treated, primed & reshot the area. Looks much better now. It being mothers day I doubt I will get much time in the garage today. If I can sneak down for a bit. I am going to install the engine bay seals.
I've got my motor almost set to go in. My distibutor was off a good 1/4 turn which is where my buddy set the timing. I've got to fix that & am reading up on how. Any tips appreciated. I keep thinking of my dang toyota years ago when I got my distributor off by a tooth or 2. Little different setup here & I haven't got my brain wrapped around it yet. I know it's easy enough. Just need to get it through my thick skull .
Tommorow the motor goes in
Here are pics of my motor ready to go. Just waiting to bolt up my muffler which will be here tommorow. Thanks Rich
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That is a spare I got out for someone . There are more pieces going on for sure before I put it in. It going to happen tommorow though
Nice!
Looks really clean.
Even after I cleaned my hell hole area, painted etc. I want to do a little touch up again myself. Seems you can never do enough cleaning or painting in those areas.
Well the motor didn't make it in today. Spent a little more time painting & sanding the battery tray area. Still not quite as nice as I want it but it will do. I've got the motor mostly ready. I have all the fuel hoses in place. I need to get all the vacum lines in place. I can do that in the car too. Then figure out where all the wiring goes again. Sure wish I had someone with a 73-74 2.0 FI car close by that could come over for a while. Always nice to have a car to compare wiring & misc things too. It was a productive day for the most part. Had a couple parts runs mixed between everything. Pushing my time envelope but such is life.
Oh yeah I had Fed Ex drop by my nice used Banana muffler. I have that on too (thanks for getting that to me so quick Rich)
Nice work Jamie! Think you'll make it by WCR?
Looks super nice!!! Great work.
Motor is in
Now I'm taking a break for lunch. I'll be back down hooking everything up after lunch. I've gone from being nervous to fire it up to TERRIFIED
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Light that thing up!
Attaboy!
that Banana looks just right in your "sicle"
"We're not gonna fall for the banana in the tail pipe."
Nice work Jamie. Looking forward to seeing it in person.
How SWEET it is!!!!!!!!!
I didn't try to fire it up. Was getting kind of late & worked on the many other little things involved. One of which is reinstalling my axles/cv's. It was so nice not having those in the way when I did the drivetrain install. Usually I work around them. Is there a trick to getting the cv's to mate up the stub axle in the trailing arm. I fought with one for a good 20 minutes before calling it a night . Maybe I'm just tired. Any tricks you use would be great. I'll get back to it in the morning.
Besides the axles I need to hook up the starter. I need to track down my ground line. How many wires run to the starter again? I need to go to bed. Nothing is making sense . Back to it tommorow
Got my axles on fine. Guess I was just tired last night. I've got it back on the ground now. Just need to do a few hoses & the FI computer. I hope I can track down a diagram of them. I've got a few electrical things I am not sure on yet. Oh yeah & put the relay board in. Then it's break in time. I also need to figure out what I am going to do for a trailer. I bought one but it is not ready for the trip. I may rent a dolly or a trailer. Just goes against the grain wasting on renting. I'll check Craigslist for a trailer today.
Hey Jamie.. Check out this link for hose diagrams:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_specs/914_20FI_diag.htm
Okay where does the single wire coming up from the alternator plug in?
Also on the relay board what plugs in on the big open spot towards the trunk? Am I missing a wiring loom. I also don't seem to have th 2 prong plug that plugs right next to the main wiring harness at the top of the board? Here are pics
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That single wire in your hand? I dunno...whats it connected to? It looks out of place on that side of the engine. Could it be the oil temp sender wire?
The 12 pin connection on the relay boards is for your...ignition harness - you know - to the coil, starter, back-up light switch.
The 2 poles at the front of the relay board - rear window defroster harness connection...fogeddaboudit.
Yeah I was missing one wire llom there . I found it & should be good. Had to drop things & go to my girls track meet. Hope to be back at it in an hour or so. Talk about pushing the envelope. Well keep your fingers crossed. Official fire up should be around 8 tonight
Jamie,
The 12 pin is for the engine electrics. The forward plug is 14 pin and goes into the harness. Alternator wires should be 3 wires with a plug that plugs in next to the voltage regulator. Looking at your pic, your alt plug is plugged in already. I think there is one (hot) large wire that goes to the batt positive at the solenoid. That is the wire that charges the battery. Should have a round type connector, but someone may have changed yours.
Tom
Jamie,
Do you have a large wire hooked up from the alt. to the batt. term on the solenoid? If not, your alt. will not charge the batt.
The wire in your top pic is not supposed to be there. That is the hole for the thermo wire ( multistrand steel, not electric) that hooks up to the flappers.
Tom
Jamie, just checked out my engine bay & underneath. Like Jeff mentioned, I think that brown wire is the one that connects to the sensor in the taco plate. I couldn't find any other wires top side that matched it. It should have several tabs that hold it in place from underneath.
Still didn't fire it up today . Right there but it got late & I was tired. Aparantly not tired enough to sleep as after an hour I came back dwonstairs. Still I am doing breakin bright & early at 7am. Then I'll change the oil & run her lik ehell for a while. Before loading her on the trailer for the trip. Hopefully all will go well with break in. If I have more issues. Screw it I am loading it up & bringing it anyway.
Jamie, here's a couple of links to my website. Since I have the engine still apart I can't take any photos, but there are a lot of shots of the wiring on these pages. I hope I can put this back together based on these photos also....
http://www.tampabay914.com/4742905914/MAY2008.html
http://www.tampabay914.com/4742905914/AUG2008.html
http://www.tampabay914.com/4742905914/APR2009.html
I hope this helps and good luck.
-- Rob
Jamie regarding the taco plate. You'll have to remove the cover plate on it, to attach the wire. Should be very doable without dropping the portion with sensor and loosing your oil. Maybe remove one bolt, slide the cover over and reinstall the bolt so it sercures the main plate. There is also a grommet that the wire slides into before you attach it to the sensor. I'll check on the other wires soon as the lawn service leaves.
Jamie,
The aux air regulator ( I think that is what you meant), wire goes to a white wire ( #12 from 12 pin connector on relay board). It should be switched +12 volts.
Tom
Ignition wire harness - this has the wires that goto the coil - along with these is a green & red wire. this green & red wire attatch to the oil pressure switch in the hole by the distributor. the white wire that is in this harness attaches to the red wire on your AAR. It should have a plastic coupler on it.
The trigger point section of the harness also has a white wire that comes out. that attaches to air temp sensor.
Your plenium sensor has a rubber boot on it and a connector that will only allow it to go on one way. It's in the same wire section as the TPS.
Hope that helps. Too much stuff in the way to get you clear pictures.
Okay I didn't get it started but screw it I'm loaded & on the way. Just wasting to much time messing with it. So I'm off & towing it up. Won't get to take it on drives but oh well. See you all soon
Okay I've had a few hickups since WCR. Most of which are my fault I guess. When I couldn't get it going there. I brought it home deciding to throw my carbs on to get my motor broken in while I figured out my FI problem. I got part way into installing my carbs & decided I should just get it going with my FI. After not having it ready for WCR I figured I have time. So I wanted to do it right & once no matter how long it took. I also was ready to pour gas over it & torch it .
After talking with a local guy about his experience with a Porsche mechanic. I went by to talk with him & see if he would reinstall my FI. I told him my problems & he said no problem. As it was he had a 914 he needed a 2.0 motor for. I had a running spare in my garage. We struck a deal that he would get my motor for his work. I dropped it off Memorial day. Turns out he could not get to my car then. My car ended up sitting outside in the rain . We are now 4 months later & besides the incredibly long wait. Not to mention a few hickups. I won't go into them. Let's just say it was par for the course on this restoration .
Tommorow morning is supposed to be the day it starts. Please everyone cross your fingers that it starts & runs like it should. My luck with the car has to change at some point right . I want so much to bring my car back home. Driving it home would be even better
It will start today Jamie...I'm crossing my toes as well for extra measure.
Lets GO GO GO Hope this is the Day!
Big flippin surprise! I can't get ahold of the guy. Bet my car is just sitting outside once again . I've gotten this we should be ready friday before. I can guaranDamntee I will never take my 914 here again. You'd think I would be numb to this by now. NOPE I'm flippin pissed again
I was thinking there's no way I'll get my car on the road before you do...
but something tells me I may have a chance.
One thing I have learned with this resto! If I am having someone else work on my car. They are giving me a timetable. My paint took forever(over a year) as did my motor rebuild. Only things that got done in a timely manner I did myself. Well except for the fender section which my seattle teener croud helped me do
(thanks again). I am an understanding guy. I have been a little to understanding with people during this resto. It has done nothing but cost me alot of time & money. I'm ready to torch the phucking thing again
When i first got my car i took it to a local VW place to have the engine looked over and get running (had no clue about these cars), after a month and 1600 bucks they got it running (a simple tune up) then they said i needed to have a new oil dip stick tube fabricated that cost me 450 then out of no where i got a call i need to pay 5,800 for a new engine, after i saw it running, they said it didn't work. The dip stick thing they made was put together out of clear silcone like you use on a window. All it needed was a new piece of rubber that connects between the blower and the block but they crimped it off and screwed me over. I won't name the place in VA beach but i feel your pain, i ended up rebuilding the engine myself and learned never to pay anyone for work on a car, might not come out perfect but at least i'll learn in the process and it will get done in a timely manner. Shit it can't be any worse then these fools that call them shelf experts.
But something to remember is the fact that we here on the East Coast have few available 914 Shops. For example the closest 914 owner to me is SWL in Ontario. Racer Chris is 5 hours away and that literally is the closest person that I would trust to work on my teener.
Shipping both ways to McMark is no big deal. All you need is a pallet and some banding equipment. He has even delivered an engine to RDenauer or something like that. He is quick and reliable and runs 11+ minute miles. Not that it's relevent but I thought I would throw that in there
For the most part my Creamsicle has been just sitting at this shop. Ouside getting rained on . Guy is really nice & I have just let this go on way to long. Swapped him a good 2.0 motor for the work he was supposed to be doing. Redid the FI system. Added all new vacumn hoses. Still not working & my distributor had issues. Sent it to McMark to get rebuilt. Had him rebuild it & got it back ready to install. Still not working. My fuel pump went bad. Brought him another I had on the shelf. I know it was working fine when pulled but had been sitting a good year & a half. Bagged on a shelf & looked brand new. It was completely dead. So I have another one coming from Craig at Camp. I'll drop it off wednesday. If it doesn't work or there is just another issue. I am going to finally just bring it home & figure it out.
I only took it to this guy because I was extremely frustrated at not figuring it out. He was supposed to be a FI guru & a good wrench. So I figured lets just get it finished & working. I dropped it off memorial day last year. It's been a nightmare having my car sitting out period. I should have just picked it up long ago. Guy had some health issues & a divorce. So I was okay getting put off some. Got kind of out of sight out of mind. I'll get an update next week. At least it still looks good huh
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I went by today to visit my Creamsicle. Supposedly they will be firing it up friday. I have heard this about 20 times so I am not holding my breath. I did tell him it's about time for it to come back home running or not. So I tell him I am picking it up next wednesday no matter what.
I will bring it home & get back to working on it. If I can't figure it out I will take it to a shop I can trust to get it going. Mark Whitesell recommended a place by him I will try. If not I may just make a trip down to see McMark
Jamie, you are a saint to put up with this guy for so long. Hope it fires up friday and makes the wait worthwhile.
Tom
Beautiful car, and amazing work. Good luck and send lots of pics.
Paul
If you decide to go down south and you would like some company, i could roadtrip with you.
I brought my LE home today. After 10 months of being at this shop. I am in the same boat as when I dropped it off. Well some parts have been replaced. Not sure if I am any closer though. I won't get to mess with it until late saturday
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Dude... You need to get that thing running...
OK guys, how about a Saturday work party at Jamie's place...there so many talented 914 gurus in the area--this is one 914 that deserves to be at this year's WCR under its own power.
Jamie...you have been amazingly patient. I wish I was closer.
I will be doing some troubleshooting this saturday afternoon. I can't get to it any sooner. I will figure out where I stand then. I really have no idea where I am at right now with it. I may bring it down & leave it with McMark. Just let him figure it out & write a check when I pick it up to drive it home . I will put some time in it before that happens. Still I have 2 other conversions I need to work on. I just want this finished & running. Then it is going up for sale. Hell it would be for sale now if what I could get not running wouldn't be insulting
Yeah I am working on this again tommorow! Wish me luck
Okay well first thing was I needed a battery. Next I started checking wires. Fuel pump wasn't plugged in. Next was my distributor that McMark rebuilt for me was still sitting in the passenger seat. So I started by replacing the old distributor with the rebuilt one with petronix in it. I managed to get the wires backwords on the coil though . There was only the one green wire coming off the old distributor. I assumed that was the hot wire & not the ground. So I put the red hotwire from the new distributor on the same side the green wire was . Once I went to try turning it over I got smoke . So out came the new rebuilt distributor . I put the old one back in & went to start it again. Turns over no problem but not firing. I listen for the fuel pump & don't hear anything. I then have my wife come out to turn on the car while I am under by the fuel pump. turning on the key doesn't make any difference with the pump. So it isn't getting power. I checked fuses & swapped relays. Next I am going to hotwire it to see if it is the pump.
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Okay so I hotwired the fuel pump. Even straight power I get nothing. So the fuel pump is toast. I sprayed a little starter fluid in the intake. Got a nice little cough which is an improvement. Right now the fuel pump needs replaced. Which strangely enough was one problem at the shop. He said my fuel pump was flat out dead. I brought him 2 different pumps. 1st was bad & leaked. The second one I brought him was a good working unit. He told me he had put the fuel pump in . I'm thinking it was just one of those times he tried to make me think he did some work on it. I'd be willing to bet the fuel pump I dropped off is sitting somewhere at his shop. I'll be calling him to see if thats the case. If not this is the second pump in the car that is completely dead. Which means there is some problem causing that. I don't have another pump so I'm stuck waiting until I do
Okay so lack of time & troubleshooting skills has led me to take the LE down to McMark. I am heading down this saturday & dropping it off. While I would love it to be something simple & cheap. To simple will make me look like an idiot . Hell I'll just be happy to have it fixed
so much patience, i would have been locked up for murder by now if i was in your shoes
wishing for a happy ending soon
You are a very patient person..sorry its taking so long to get the work done but you have made lots of progress (mostly on your side)...I actually have a brand new stock Bosch fuel pump that I don't need after switching to carbs...its been in storage for over 10 years but was new in the box, the only problem is its on the other side of the world for me now (in Canada)..I would gladly trade it to you for some parts or sell at a fair price...but I would need to make it back to Canada for a bit to pick it up.
I hope you get things sorted out with your car. I love the creamsicles and hope you don't sell it.
Also you have a cool first name!!
Jamie (nsr-jamie)
I did find a fuel pump. I came home with 5 from the transmission clinic. The first I tried leaked like a sieve. The second was totally dead. The 3rd pump seemed to do the trick. I know it is working & I have pressure. Now I don't think my injectors are working. Anyway McMark will figure it all out soon.
Progress, I bet Mark get's it figured out soon.
I'm in the same boat. I've got a local mechanic helping with the final hookup of the D-jet. I can't wait to hear this thing run!!
Careful with that Mark guy Jamie... looks like he's billing to two hours for 20 minutes worth of work!
I gotta get that Cayenne somehow!
Yeah spill it! Hopefully whatever it is doesn't make me look to big an idiot
Okay I know a few problems. Some of which were my problems. One was the fuel lines were hooked up backwords. I kept it the same when changing the pumps. which means I got it back from my other wrench that way .
Also my ditributor was in 180 degree's off. Which I also managed to do after I had o swaped after burning up my rebuilt one with petronix . Well I can lay claim to both those issues.
Oh well I am way past being proud on this car. I just want if finished & running
Yup, hooked up a fuel pressure gauge and saw no fuel pressure, but could hear the pump run. Swapped those lines and problem fixed.
Cranked and got a few sputters and pops, but nothing significant. Pulled the valve cover and set #1 to TDC for sure then pulled the distributor and checked the orientation of the distributor drive gear. That was 180* out. So flipped that around. Installed a set of points and condenser in the newly rebuilt distributor and double checked the trigger points were working. Installed everything and timed it by lining up the rotor with the line on the distributor.
Turned the key and it sputtered to life. 20 minutes later it's got the engine brake in finally done. But.... there's still some oddities to work out. It doesn't idle and a few other things. But I'm headed back in right now to double check everything and install a throttle cable so I can test drive it.
Good work Mark.
Good news Jamie! Hope things will get straightened out in time for the WCR this year.
Tom
Ok... I take it back. He can get it running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtbERHnYX0M
The MPS looks like it needs some tweaking. I dropped in a spare to get it running.
AWESOME
You know if you haven't driven it down the road. I think some of the lights still need plugged in. Oh yeah & the tags are expired. Guess I better hit the DMV this week for them
Yeah, tags are good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-I_F2HwSk
THE WORLD IS ENDING!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, is going on?
Hide your wives, hide your kids....
Our hero! way to go Mark
BTW was it the MPS for the oddies?
and could have you warm the motor a bit more for a smoother take off?
The real question now will be who is going to drive it up to WCR? Of course Mark get's dibs over anyone else. Just whoever it is needs to get a ride back home from someone making the trip up. It's that or I fly down to drive it back. Although I took a quick look & those prices are insane. One way to San Fransico for $500+ no thanks
I'll drive it...
It lives
I was there when the entire garage filled with smoke after it caught for the first time.
Drove my LE for about 20 minutes tonight . Mark has it running great. I can't wait to put it through the autoX tommorow. Then it get's a much needed bath. It is one filthy car after sitting through the previous year at the wrench who shall remain nameless. Now I just need to spend some time sorting out a few cosmetic problems. Also the rebuilt tranny is leaking byt he tailcone/intermediate plate. So I will be pulling it to replace that gasket. Kind of strange as all it has done is sit for a long time. Figures though but who cares. I can actually drive it
Mark at Original Customs is my hero!
pics???
Here is one of my Co-Driver Ian! It is missing the spoiler as I am flat towing it. It ran great all day & had no issues on the track. Awesome day!!!
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I was glad to see your guys hammering on it at the AX. Drive it like you stole it.
Another update as it has been a while. I pulled the tranny that was leaking from the tailcone. It was a rebuilt one but the gasket got a little goobered when it was put on. I had another rebuilt tranny on my shelf so I just put it in there. The dash that I bought off ebay supposedly uncracked wasn't as I said before. It wasn't super obvious before. Now the cracks look more pronounced & annoy the hell out of me. I just bought a excellent uncracked dash for it. Damn things are spendy . I started pulling out my intereior last night to get the dash off. I still need to get the lower dash out & then I am ready to pull it. While there are plenty of little things with my paint that drive me nuts. My car looks great just not perfect. At least I will have my interior as close to perfect as I can. There will be no cracks or tears in anything. I will take some pics for you guys soon
I got my new (used) uncracked dash yesterday. I installed it tonight. I still have to put everything under the dash back in. I forgot what a pain in the ass getting to some of those plastic nuts are . Oh well it does look great in place. I'll get a pic up once I get everything back in
Figured I needed to update my resto thread with the latest. After deciding to redo my interior floor after finding some rust by the seat mounts. I pulled all the tar mat off the floor. Wire brushed everything & treated the small rust area's. I had one little 1/8" hole I had to fill. I got that all done & moved onto the rear trunk.
It was not done well when I had it painted. It sitting outside at the shop didn't help the tailight leak. I had some minor rust there to deal with. Mostly because the guy who painted it didn't do the work in the trunk he should have. Anyway I completely stripped the rear trunk & prepped it for paint. Once I did that I wasn't happy with the front trunk. I stripped it & prepped it for paint too. After trying to used the rattle cans I had made when I got my car painted. I wasn't happy with the results. So I decided to go buy a paint gun & take my first shot at painting. Man painting is definitely not easy. I was happy with the rear trunk on my first attempt.
The front trunk I wasn't happy with. I was trying to paint basically the area where the spare sits. So everything below the shelf. I didn't do a good job of taping by the wall & ended up needing to redo the front trunk.
I also repainted the interior floor. I've got to pull my rear window & reinstall it. The windshield calking I used didn't cut it. I'll be doing that this week. Next weekend I plan to put the interior back in. The only thing I should have left after that is the front valance. One end by the tire had the fiberglass hole tear out by the screw. So now I get to learn to deal with fiberglass
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My plan for tomorrow is to finish hooking up the clutch at the pedal cluster. Then start my LE & back it out of the trailer. I've got to get into town to get some buytl tape to reinstall the rear window. Anyone think it would be worth the trouble to add a rear window defrost I have in another car? It was not a stock option but some were added from the factory. Once that is installed my interior goes back in. I do have to get the front valance fixed & back on also. But then the LE is finished. Although that is a big knock on wood. I've thought I had it finished way to many times
I like the defroster glass and have one to go in my six. If you have it, install it.
Jamie,
Are you thinking you might "officially" put the LE up for sale? You've worked so hard on it.
Mark
Okay I still didn't decide on the rear window. Here is a pic of my restored pedal cluster before getting covered up! My big plans for today involve watching my 49ers beat up on the Giants. On to the super bowl niners
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Congratulations! I have always liked the look of the defroster rear window in our cars. My 1st 914, a '73 2.0 came with it and I have a perfect defroster glass and nicely restored defroster harness and switch for my six build. So even though my car came w/o a defroster rear window, it will have one when done.
Thanks for the description!
Don't forget to keep saying I love you honey, always makes it slide in easier
Well I dropped off a bunch of parts to my powder coater a few weeks back. Called to check on them friday. Turns out my guy got sent out of state for work. So all my parts are locked in his shop & haven't been worked on yet . Sucks as I took all my extra seat mount/rails to get powder coated. Including the ones from my LE. I'll be lucky to get them before I leave on the 12th for Vegas. I've been holding off finishing my interior until I got those back. So I am just going to get everything else put in place this week. Worst case I will pull them out of my suby project so I have an actual seat. Still annoying as hell but my powder coater does good work & is very reasonable. So wait I will as I have a pair of 16x8 fuchs coming that go to him next.
So tonight after work I am installing the vinyl pieces that sit on the seat brace & the side of the tunnel between the seats. Then the backpad get's put back in. Although I've got a little swapping to do there. My previous uncracked backpad decided to crack on top by the seat belt on the drivers side. I was more than a little pissed as I barely leaned right there when it happened . So I need to pull that side off another pad I have to get it back to uncracked & pristine . If that all goes well I will finish installing the carpet.
Well I got the vinyl & carpet all done. My backpad need some work. I may just try to find a better one. I have 3 & one of them would be fairly nice. Problem is the bottom on all 3 have issues. Of course they are covered so it's not exactly obvious. I really want to have the interior perfect.
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I was able to piece together a good backpad from 2 of the ones I had. Had to do a little work with the vinyl on the bottoms. I have my interior all installed but kind of temporarily. My seat rails/mounts are off getting powder coated. I put some of those in so I can drive it tomorrow & give it a good shakedown. I'll be picking up my new powdercoated parts tomorrow & will drive the LE up to get them.
I also did some fiberglass work for the first time on my LE front Valance. Had one of the holes ripped out to the side. So redid that corner lip & fixed a few small cracks. Then I painted it last night. I still have a little of the orange peel look to my paint. You've got to be very close to really notice it. Plus it's a repro Valance anyway so concours shape it will never be. I'll shoot some pics tonight
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Awesome.. Keep it up! Rt 66 in 2 weeks!
looks real good Jamie nice work
Don't forget that OE finish isn't mirror smooth. These are 'economy cars'. A little orange peel is period correct.
Lookin' great.
I am basically finished with the LE finally. It is absolutely filthy in the pics. I am paying someone to detail it tomorrow. Give it the serious cut buff wash & wax it needs. While the carpet is all new & doesn't need cleaned. All the vinyl needs treated. The pics make the interior look much worse than it is. It is as close to pristine as I can get it. I'll go ahead & upload the pics I have. The only thing I have left to do is install the engine trunk lid. Then I drive it the 30 minutes to the detailers place. I leave it there for about 5 hours. Only thing that sucks is the weather is so crappy. By the time I drive it to vegas it will be filthy again. At least it will clean up easier after the wax.
I can't even begin to say how happy I am to have it all together & finished.
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NIce!
Congratulations
Looks awesome. Did you do anything special to the seat rails? I have read a few posts where folks talk about NOT painting the edge of the rail where the seat has to slide. Looks like yours is flat black. Have you tried to move it yet?
Hurry up and sell that thing so you can buy more 914's!!!
Its been a long road for the LE. Congrats, and Enjoy it !!
Got back from getting it Detailed
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Congrats Jamie. She's a beauty! Nice job.
Very nice!
Yay! Another LE saved...Looks great!
Stopped by to look at the 75 tub he has for sale.
The LE is stunning. He did a beautiful job. Very impressive. I only hope the one I'm working now turns out 1/2 as nice.
Have fun on your trip ................
I've listed it on ebay now. Let's hope it goes to another great 914 owner
I want an LE!!!!
You need one as part of your complete collection.
Too bad I have 6 cars already...
John
lets Go;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-914-1974-Porsche-914-Limited-Edition-Creamsicle-/330709813551?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cffd7492f
Congrats Jamie! Looks great.
& you already have some action on the Auction!
Yeah I have had alot of interest. I will be surprised if it makes it to the end without someone doing the Buy it now. We shall see though Talk is cheap & I have had plenty of that. Must be why I am still poor
Glad to hear that the car and you made it back w/o incident
Get some interior shots up there.. that will definitely drive the bids!
What did your LE end up selling for and where is it's new home?
I turned out great! You should be proud!
I haven't actually sold it yet. The guy who bought it on ebay turned out to be trying a scam. I won't do ebay again. It is in the classifieds for sale here. I am in no hurry. I am content to keep it & drive it. So while it's officially still for sale. I am not actively doing anything to sell it . Had a rear main seal leak that I just fixed. I'll drive it for another month before I store it for winter.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=181320. I've worked on this car and driven it and I think it's worth every penny. Especially considering how (in my opinion) the LE cars are going to climb in resale faster than the 914/4s as nice examples of our cars become more desirable.
No BS: I bought a bumble Bee this year. I did not buy the "Car". I bought the COA & VIN that match the engine and body. Get what I am saying. Without the correct vin & COA from Porsche...All you got is a regular good ol 914.
I have a sale pending I think. No money in my hand yet so who knows
Good luck! No wammys!
So.....sold?????????
Well bought!
These are cool looking and rare cars.
John
Glad it finally worked out Jamie!
Have you found another one yet?
Mike
Jamie, buy mine!
And blacked out trim..
Congrats, nice car, rare find!
Tonight is bitter sweet. It has been a long road since my restoration began. So many headache's & a few nightmare experiences with shops. I am happy to have this chapter of my life with my restoration come to a close. It was really hard to see it go. I am still incredibly worried something will happen in transport. Or the new owner Tommy won't be happy with it. I have always been open & honest with my car. Probably to my own detriment. I would rather talk something down & have someone be really happy. Than to praise it & have some disappointment.
Will I do one again? I dont think so to this extent. At least not a bone stock resto. I think I'll stick to my conversions. I'm going to get my v8 car setup & just enjoy driving my 914 again. I think I have had enough of the multiple 914 projects. I have 3 right now but really the v8 is the only one that is staying.
So no regrets here but I am a little sad tonight to have my Creamsicle gone for good. I am glad it is going to a fellow 914world member. I hope he will enjoy it for many years to come. Thanks to everyone who has helped me over the years with this project. There are to many to thanks but I will give a big shout out to my buddy Mark at Original customs. He was my saving grace on more than one occasion. So much so I made the 9 hour drive to his place I think 3 different times for work.
To the 914 world community to whom I owe so much. My sincere thanks
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Noooooo...they didnt put that on the transport backwards did they....I hear the rear windows can come out at highway speeds.
And open transport as well!!!! This car deserved the extra money for enclosed transport ....I hope it makes it okay
Well, Jamie I'm happy for you. I bet it was hard to see it go, even though it was the right thing to do for you. I'm excited to see your V8 go through the transformation. Are you going to paint it black? I sure miss working on a project car. Linda and I will be traveling through the NE this Summer and hopefully we can connect. At Thanksgiving I met my niece's boyfriend who is a bio engineer student at San Diego State...and guess where he lived and worked until recently...Yup, Corvalis. He worked at your HP plant. It's a small world. I showed him a picture of a 914 and asked if he had seen any of those running around his home town.
Mark
a TR7? shouldn't that be a TR8? good luck with that one jamie. are you going to build a wedge shaped garage?
k
That TR7.5 should be fun though. No pics?
Jamie I think I feel similar to you. It's such a great car, but I know it's not the car you really want. Glad to see it go. Sad to see it go.
So when does the triumph come down?
I have an offer to trade my viper car for a 46k TR-6.... I dont think so .....german versus Brit. = not on my watch.
my dad brain washed me
Glad to see you appreciate the British cars as well!
I used to have a 1980 TR8...bought it from the original owner back in 1996. The car only had around 35K miles. It was a nice car and EXTREMELY reliable. The only work I did on it was stuff i wanted to do...the car never left me stranded.
My current British ride is a 1973 TR6!
VERY nice Triumph! My buddy Richard had one in the 70's. He still regrets selling it.
Oh yeah - and to me!
I'm glad that you got the car; albeit with a somewhat heavy heart. I had been looking for some extra cash to buy it and just as I got everything lined up, you bought it!!
Seriously, though. I am happy for you and think it's a great car. I am happy to see it come to the East Coast. You are only three hours away from me and Phil W...maybe you can make a road trip to the South Carolina LowCountry some day. At the very least we'll see you at the Tropical Ramble next year!
That would be cool! Yeah, I was hoping to sell my nice red '75 before buying the car, but it seemed there was other interest in it so I had to go ahead and buy it. Need to sell my red one now!
I don't know who Phil W is or anybody on 914 World that is in my city or surrounding area either, so it would be nice to meet up with other enthusiasts.
When and where is the Tropical Ramble? I would love check that out!
Phil was that kinda guy. There are a lot of 914 guys like that. Right here...
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I almost bought that car. But, tumamilhem beat me to it.
I drug my feet because of the reconstructed title. Guess I waited too long
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=181320&st=0
Seems like this poor car has been plagued with F.I. issues
Probably just needs a couple Webers on it
Does anyone know if there are any recent photos of this car????
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