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Posted by: hirum Nov 2 2008, 07:29 PM

I'v had my 75 914 for 26 years and still have the original POS Schucks headlights. There must be better headlights Available at a reasonable price.I'm sure the sales catologs have lights for sale , but thought I'd ask here what 914ers are using and are happy with. thanks for the input.

Posted by: ws91420 Nov 2 2008, 07:45 PM

Sylvainia Silver Stars is my choice.

Posted by: blitZ Nov 2 2008, 07:45 PM

I replace my headlights with the Hella headlights with H4 bulbs. If you stick with the 65w high beam, you don't have to do any re-wiring. They are much brighter. I bought mine from Crutchfield.

Posted by: championgt1 Nov 2 2008, 08:45 PM

agree.gif H4's

Posted by: dbu356 Nov 2 2008, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(blitZ @ Nov 2 2008, 06:45 PM) *

I replace my headlights with the Hella headlights with H4 bulbs. If you stick with the 65w high beam, you don't have to do any re-wiring. They are much brighter. I bought mine from Crutchfield.




I agree.....Hella
Because you can't find Cebie.

Got some here last month for my neighbors 912... http://www.rallylights.com/

Very happy with price and service


Posted by: ericread Nov 2 2008, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(blitZ @ Nov 2 2008, 05:45 PM) *

I replace my headlights with the Hella headlights with H4 bulbs. If you stick with the 65w high beam, you don't have to do any re-wiring. They are much brighter. I bought mine from Crutchfield.


What was your Crutchfield part number?

Thanks!

Eric Read

Posted by: Joe Owensby Nov 2 2008, 09:57 PM

I have some of the silverstars. They actually are pretty bright. Fairly cheap, and a direct replacement.

Posted by: RJMII Nov 2 2008, 11:39 PM

I went with these ones:

(I think these were them, they look familiar)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-911-912-914-928-944-XENON-EURO-BLUE-HEAD-LIGHTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120226440722

Posted by: type47fan Nov 2 2008, 11:46 PM

Yup . . . . H4s


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Posted by: rascobo Nov 3 2008, 03:50 AM

QUOTE(hirum @ Nov 2 2008, 05:29 PM) *

I'v had my 75 914 for 26 years and still have the original POS Schucks headlights. There must be better headlights Available at a reasonable price.I'm sure the sales catologs have lights for sale , but thought I'd ask here what 914ers are using and are happy with. thanks for the input.


With all low cars visablity seems to be a problem,I know it has been for me anyway. I've tried just about every type headlight made with minimal improvement, UNTIL I installed a pair of 'European' spec Hellas.
The improvement was remarkable, excellant illumination on low beams,and incredable on highs.Although they're DOT approved only for motorcycles at this time, Your unlikely to have any problems as they don't blind oncoming traffic or produce excessive glare.

Posted by: blitZ Nov 3 2008, 07:30 AM

QUOTE(ericread @ Nov 2 2008, 10:11 PM) *

What was your Crutchfield part number?


You need to order two bulbs and two conversion headlamps. They will plug right in.

http://www.crutchfield.com/g_280750/Sealed-Beam-Replacements.html?search=Hella%20VENDORID529&searchdisplay=Hella

Posted by: hirum Nov 3 2008, 07:16 PM

thanks for the replys. Do the hellas fit right in under the headlight ring? no mods nessesary? Again thanks for the input

Posted by: RiqueMar Nov 3 2008, 07:19 PM

I'm also looking for headlights. Do the Hella lights give off that slightly blue-ish glow? I think their UV or something?

Posted by: blitZ Nov 3 2008, 07:41 PM

The Hella replacements are standard 7" and a perfect fit. The light is bright white, not yellow like incandescent bulbs.

Posted by: RJMII Nov 3 2008, 08:19 PM

HID Hella H4 conversion:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2753976190101286046bKZdmg


has blueish glow, the bulb fits into the back of the new glas bulb housing.

Posted by: scotty b Nov 3 2008, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Nov 3 2008, 05:19 PM) *

I'm also looking for headlights. Do the Hella lights give off that slightly blue-ish glow? I think their UV or something?



Think of it this way. The H4 is the housing, you put whatever bulb you want in the housing. Various wattage ratings and it also allows you to go with a bright white, blue tint, yellow tint, green tint, red tint, purple tint, checkerboard tint etc.


Posted by: rascobo Nov 4 2008, 01:12 AM

QUOTE(hirum @ Nov 3 2008, 05:16 PM) *

thanks for the replys. Do the hellas fit right in under the headlight ring? no mods nessesary? Again thanks for the input

Hirum,

Yeah,the ones I;m talking about are a simple plug-in replacement. The secret may be that the Euro lenses produce a much sharper cutoff line so they don't blind oncoming drivers, allowing higher wattages. Also the beam flares up and to the right illuminating highway signs.

BTW. Looks like the first big storm of the year is here. Are You getting as much rain up your way as we're getting here in Portland(a shit load)?
If so you'll appreciate good lights. Good luck with whatever you get.

Scott

Posted by: dinomium Nov 4 2008, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(dbu356 @ Nov 2 2008, 06:52 PM) *

QUOTE(blitZ @ Nov 2 2008, 06:45 PM) *

I replace my headlights with the Hella headlights with H4 bulbs. If you stick with the 65w high beam, you don't have to do any re-wiring. They are much brighter. I bought mine from Crutchfield.




I agree.....Hella
Because you can't find Cebie.

Got some here last month for my neighbors 912... http://www.rallylights.com/

Very happy with price and service

I got mine from Rallylights.com and upgraded the wiring to accept 100w, they are REALLY bright. I got the yellowstars as well...

Posted by: anderssj Nov 5 2008, 03:47 PM

Here's a link to a good "ratwell" article on H4 headlights:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html

While the article compares two Bosch H4 headlights (one for motorcycles, one for cars), it also includes some good info on e-code H4s in general--especially how e-code lights differ from standard DOT sealed beams.

Dan Stern also has an excellent site at:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

He has a great article on how to aim these things at :

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

Dan is also great to deal with. As of last year he still had some of the Cibie H4s--I highly recommend them if you can still get them . . . .

Hope this helps!

Posted by: rascobo Nov 5 2008, 06:21 PM

QUOTE(anderssj @ Nov 5 2008, 01:47 PM) *

Here's a link to a good "ratwell" article on H4 headlights:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html

While the article compares two Bosch H4 headlights (one for motorcycles, one for cars), it also includes some good info on e-code H4s in general--especially how e-code lights differ from standard DOT sealed beams.

Dan Stern also has an excellent site at:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

He has a great article on how to aim these things at :

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

Dan is also great to deal with. As of last year he still had some of the Cibie H4s--I highly recommend them if you can still get them . . . .

Hope this helps!


anderssj,

Thanks for posting those links, two of the best I've come across. clap56.gif

Posted by: rascobo Nov 5 2008, 06:23 PM

QUOTE(anderssj @ Nov 5 2008, 01:47 PM) *

Here's a link to a good "ratwell" article on H4 headlights:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html

While the article compares two Bosch H4 headlights (one for motorcycles, one for cars), it also includes some good info on e-code H4s in general--especially how e-code lights differ from standard DOT sealed beams.

Dan Stern also has an excellent site at:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

He has a great article on how to aim these things at :

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

Dan is also great to deal with. As of last year he still had some of the Cibie H4s--I highly recommend them if you can still get them . . . .

Hope this helps!


anderssj,

Thanks for posting those links, two of the best I've come across. clap56.gif

Posted by: anderssj Nov 6 2008, 01:56 PM

glad to help!

Here's a link to another good lighting article by David Hueppchen in the Volvo Classics archive:

http://www.vclassics.com/archive/relays.htm

David used to rally a Volvo 1800 up in Wisconsin back in the day. He's a great source for NLA lights and parts (he was the only one I could find with bulb holders for my old Cibie 95 fog lights). He's at:

David Hueppchen
OJ Rallye
N 6808 Highway OJ
Plymouth, WI 53073
(920) 893-2531
http://www.vclassics.com/ojrallye.htm

I'm also looking for some "isocandela" diagrams that Dan Stern used to have posted on his site. They are like topographical maps of light output for various lights (Hella, Cibie e-code, Cibie Z-beam, etc.). The diagrams really helped me make sense of his observations and recommendations.

I'll post them here if/when I find them . . . .

Posted by: RiqueMar Nov 6 2008, 04:58 PM

I know it's late, but thanks for the help to my newb question.

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