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Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 13 2008, 06:26 PM

see all the fun and excitement here

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=89973

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 13 2008, 07:09 PM

Something Vexes thee? I looked at your pic's, I am not an engineer but I built commercial buildings for years. I would draft the plans and then had to deal with the city engineers and my MEP engineers. I again am not an expert but I would not have trusted those parts to hold up my pants. I can not blame you for being pissed. I also posted this in the paddock.

Posted by: RJMII Nov 13 2008, 08:53 PM

is that the right emoticon?

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 13 2008, 10:11 PM

assuming the two records we are dancing to are the Beatle's Helter Skelter and Metallica's ...And Justice for All cuz the guy at Kanna is clearly nutty and I'm having my day in court so to say and I do believe justice has been served.

Posted by: ericread Nov 14 2008, 10:34 AM

So are you recommending this vendor or not???

Really, you need to learn to vent. Holding in all this anger just isn't healthy!

In all seriousness, I understand your distress. It is a good lesson learned that many of the parts we are putting in our teeners are either manufactured by small shops (without a real quality assessment process) or really old stock. Just because we pay top dollar for a part doesn't mean we shouldn't really critically review the part when it arrives... Before we install it.

You were lucky that this part's catastrophic failure didn't endanger your life.

Now it's time to let it go and

Thanks for sharing your thread!

Eric Read

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 17 2008, 11:55 AM

Hey Eric - I had let this die 2 yrs ago a month after it happened and moved on. Issue is the rat bastard up and out of the blue sends me a nasty-gram about bad-mouthing his crap, claimed I never called him, which was definitely not the case, and claiming I was slandering his stuff, which again is not true - slander is if I were lying about his components breaking/machining being crappy. Then went public on the forum before I even saw the PM or had the chance to respond.

So, I figure if it's a knife fight he wanted, I'll come with both guns blazing.

Key is I want everyone to see not only the crap workmanship, or maybe more appropriately workmanshit you will get from them, but to see exactly what the customer service is like once they have your $$ and you have their junk.

Best part is by him going public a fellow teener that had also been screwed big time by them was able to get his story out there as well - so I am not the only one to have big issues with them and have to completely rework/deal with their pieces.

And hey, your right, this venting stuff is pretty therapeutic hahahaha

Posted by: wbergtho Nov 17 2008, 12:21 PM

I read Kanna Motorsports response and it seems right away they were degrading and unprofessional. They "assumed" you did something wrong and defended their craftmenshit... not the best example of good customer service. These guys sound like a bunch of jackasses!

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 17 2008, 12:39 PM

right?!

If he had sent me a PM with a bit of sugar v. vinegar, asked me what the issue was, apologized for not somehow catching this 2 yrs ago or responding to my phone messages and emails, asked for pictures or proof, this would have went a LOT differently because he would have known right away that the parts were not up to snuff and, hell, after he saw the pix if had he simply apologized and assured me he was sorry this turned sour I would have totally dropped it. In fact it would have probably not even gone public again and that sleeping dog may have continued to lay.

Posted by: PanelBilly Nov 17 2008, 08:01 PM

If they have any honor, they'll do something to right the error in product quality and customer service.

Hell, everybody screws up and sometimes we open our mouths (or write something) before we know what's really going on, but good people come back and say they are sorry and at least give you the product that should have been sent the first time.

Come on boys, the clocks ticking. Show us what your made of.

Posted by: jaxdream Nov 17 2008, 09:00 PM

Posted by: RJMII Nov 18 2008, 01:43 AM

Does Kanna Motorsports come check out 914 world?

Posted by: wbergtho Nov 18 2008, 08:47 AM

Judging by their dimeanor, they won't make any effort to make things right. It seems to me they have shoved their feet into their mouths so far there's no turning back. I wouldn't expect anything from these ass wipes after having read the entire thread. If they refunded 50% of the money they stole from Tim...that would go a long way to repair hard feelings...But they were the one's who ripped the scab off this old wound by stirring up this shit TWO YEARS LATER...F$CK THEM!

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 18 2008, 08:52 PM

Yeah, they found a post on Paddock forum I made 2 yrs ago in the track car pix thread and made a reply there - so they do come here and I posted a link there to here.

I am with Bill - I would gladly take some of my money back (all would be better of course hahahaha) but I highly doubt that would ever happen. So figure if they scrape the scab, then I need to make sure they can't rip anyone else off.

I am sure they have seen the threads I have on 3 different forums about this as they are generally linked together and I know they are on 2 of 3 of those for certain. Fact is I highly doubt I would see any sort of response... if I put myself in his shoes, I sure as Hell wouldn't have a response so he is probably just praying this will fall under the rug again.

However, periodically when I do an alignment for the track I will be reminded again of his tirade and will be sure to bump it to make sure newbies get to see it. Just Googled them and one of my threads is the top one, their site was down a couple days ago.

Posted by: RJMII Nov 18 2008, 11:42 PM

You're an alright guy in my book, you've earned my respect on these here forums. Their response just wasn't right. So, pardon my occasional ran-dumb comment in your thread. wuahahahah. they just keep bumping it back up to the top!

What if they offer to pay you off in ice cream? Did I read that correctly in the paddock?

Posted by: ericread Nov 18 2008, 11:47 PM

I see you cross-posted this to the Pelican board. Hahaha! You're really not letting these guys off the hook! Good for you!

But I'm a bit confused... When I enter "http://www.kannamotorsports.com" a message comes up stating that the domain listing has expired?

Are these guys gone, or are they at some other www address?

Eric Read

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 19 2008, 07:14 PM

Thanks for that.. I like to think I am a reasonable dude at minimum

I just had knee surgery this AM, so eating a few hundred dollars worth of ice cream probably wouldn't make that situation any better when the extra pounds set in hahhahaaha. But I would consider it just to say "hey, got sumptin' worthwhile for my $$"

I see the site is down as well. I really hope they didn't get a new, different address and are going to try to screw people under another name, but the racing community in general is really small believe it or not - when I managed/ran a performance biz for 'merican V8 cars on the West Coast but sold nationally, I was always amazed at how tight the community was and how many people on the East coast new about us.

So if they change name, etc hopefully by having these threads out there it will keep others aware of them. At minimum, if someone is pawning 935 front ends on the lower east coast (NC if I remember right) then beware - it might be a new name but same old same old.

Posted by: wbergtho Nov 19 2008, 09:04 PM

I'll vouch for you. I have had many friendly dealings with you and know you to be a very capable fabricator, racer and friend of everything 914! Even a nice guy has his limits.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 19 2008, 09:44 PM

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I just had knee surgery this AM, so eating a few hundred dollars worth of ice cream probably wouldn't make that situation any better when the extra pounds set in hahhahaaha.
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I just had my 8th Knee surgery (every type except replacement). Let your leg recover before doing anything.

T.C.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Nov 19 2008, 10:03 PM

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[quote name='RJMII' post='1103307' date='Nov 18 2008, 10:42 PM']

I just had knee surgery this AM, so eating a few hundred dollars worth of ice cream probably wouldn't make that situation any better when the extra pounds set in hahhahaaha.
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I just had my 8th Knee surgery (every type except replacement). Let your leg recover before doing anything.

T.C.
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I've had three and wish I had only one. Get that puppy strong and well rehabbed before you go doing anything crazy.

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 21 2008, 11:54 AM

thanks everyone! yeah, the knee was a hurtin' puppy yesterday (the day after sorta thing) and I was simply on the couch and drugged up pretty well Today it is feeling a bit better - off the pain meds altogether at this point.

I hear you guys about taking it easy - sux as I am having my mom pick up the transaxle from Mendeola today and she will drive it out here for Thanksgiving... I won't be able to do anything with it of course for quite awhile which is the bummer. My friends out here will have to unload it and we can all gawk at it for a month or two hahahahahah. She was looking for an excuse to come out here anyway.

I hope this is the only one I have to have - PITA to deal with this sorta stuff.

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 21 2008, 12:11 PM

To bad your not closer we could have a Tranny Party.



Get Better Soon.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Nov 21 2008, 12:27 PM

Well, you're getting older so you never know Take it easy and get your knee strong.

Oh, and Paul, you're one sick puppy but you already knew that

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 21 2008, 12:42 PM

Yeah...Thanks for noticing Jon.

Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 21 2008, 12:53 PM

thanks Paul... I think hahahaha. As if I wasn't feeling enough nausea already hahahahaha

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 21 2008, 01:26 PM

Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 21 2008, 03:30 PM

Oh man, I just ate lunch!

Is that Chelsea Clinton in the middle of that pic?

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 21 2008, 03:39 PM

I says it is, but don't quote me, I don't want Hillary after me.

The son Bill always wanted.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Nov 21 2008, 03:45 PM

My daughter looked at that picture and this was her face


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Posted by: byndbad914 Nov 21 2008, 06:34 PM

I dunno if that face is necessary, Chelsea isn't that bad lookin'


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