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Posted by: messix Nov 16 2008, 12:04 AM

any one wanna guess what this is and who built it?


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Posted by: Lou W Nov 16 2008, 12:06 AM

Lee Iacocca, Ford Mustang

Posted by: messix Nov 16 2008, 12:09 AM

quick! yup. too bad it didn't make production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_I

Posted by: LarryR Nov 16 2008, 01:00 AM

It really sucks that they did not pay attention to a superior design. I have owned 4 mustangs but I wonder if it would have just been 1 if it wa a mid engine v8 beast! maybe that is the idea....... As they prepare to file bankruptcy!!!!!

Posted by: dw914er Nov 16 2008, 03:48 AM

An American car that can handle? jk

the pantera was probably the closest thing to that Ford (in the MR sense)

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 16 2008, 05:07 AM

ya well my 1963 "Chevrolet" Corvair Spyder, had
an air cooled,hydraulic lifters,turbo charged flat six,
tach,cylinder head temp gauge,boost gauge.
hers "Chevy's" version mid proto 1963 also



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Posted by: ejm Nov 16 2008, 05:19 AM

Mustang 1 at the Ford museum in Dearborn




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Posted by: ottox914 Nov 16 2008, 09:05 AM

Link to 1937 lincoln-zeypher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lincoln_Zephyr_V12_Coupe_1937.jpg#filehistory

My uncle has one of these he is restoring, in addition to about a million other cool cars from the 20's to present. He tells this of the history of this car: Prof. Porsche came to the states to meet w/Henry Ford to learn about assembly line construction. Ford shared plans for this car: unit-body construction, rear mounted motor with transaxle, aerodynamic lines, bolt on fenders. If you look at the photo and follow the pin stripe line from the A pillar to the front bumper, imagine that hood sloping down to the bumper rather than having an upright grille. Remind you any of a certain "peoples car" ?. In the interest of getting the car to market, they updated the flathead V8 design and made a V12 out of it, changed the front of the car to hold the radiator and this new motor, and used existing trans and rear end. Early parts bin engineering? And so the car went to market as a front engined V12 watercooled car, although the plans were for a rear engine/transaxle design. If someone can surf up a rear photo of one of these, the likes are amazingly similar to, ah, an early bug... The day I was at his place I was leading a tour of my auto cross club thru the maze of amazing cars being done in his shops, and I forgot my canera!!! The had to build their own rig to hold and rotate the car for the body restoration. They had nothing in the shop that would hold it. Its a huge, heavy old 1903's car. And very cool.

Is the story true- did Porsche "borrow" from the Fords plans for this car when he saw them in the early 1930's? Who really knows, but I prefer to think great minds can move in the same direction independently of each other.

Posted by: Bruce Hinds Nov 16 2008, 09:21 AM

One of Cheverolet's experements was actually with a 914. They were one of the first to put a V8 in a Teener and used it to run some tests. Does anyone know that story?
B

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 16 2008, 09:34 AM

heres Chevy's 1968 corvette motored mid engine car.
XP880


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Posted by: scottb Nov 16 2008, 09:35 AM

that's not a mustang....

it's speed racers powerful mach 5!!!!




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Posted by: effutuo101 Nov 16 2008, 09:54 AM

Hey Troy, you got it backwards. Ford and Chevy copied a 1923 Benz Tropfenwagen that was based on an earlier design (1921) i love that wikipedia thingy. Oh, and who was the design team on the 1923 design? Willy Walb, Hans Nibel and one Ferdinand Porsche.....

Posted by: Bruce Hinds Nov 16 2008, 10:02 AM

That is slick! I want one of those!
B

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Nov 16 2008, 10:13 AM

The prototype corvette XP978GT was built on a 914/6 chassis.

http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/zEC_XP978GT-2.jpg


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Posted by: Wes V Nov 16 2008, 10:51 AM

Ya, it was a mustang prototype.

As I recall, it had a Saab V4 engine.

I love how the air intakes on the side are still carried over to this date.

Wes

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 16 2008, 11:02 AM

wankel project, Pininfarina bulit;
http://www.mazda-auto.hu/wankel-chevrolet-corvette.html

Posted by: jimtab Nov 16 2008, 05:12 PM

In my opinion the "Big 3" for the most part, wouldn't know a good idea if it bit them in the ass. Less than a year ago the CEO of GM stated that "GM will not base it's production decisions on the oil markets" or something very near to that.....so how did he get the job? How the hell has he kept it? OF COURSE you base production decisions on market effects....holy shit! And, look how well things are working out for them......