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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ A Philosophical Question?
Posted by: greenie Dec 4 2008, 09:56 PM
Pleasure ?
Accomplishment?
Lack of self esteem?
This is how I spent each evening this week.
Cutting out the safety rail & fixing the dents behind the rail.
Mr. Sixnotfour said "oh that's easy".......
I don't think so....I'm just looking for some ideas ...what's my motivation for this pain?
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Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 4 2008, 10:25 PM
Curt, You are under orders from the General. There is no philosophy. Only duty.
Did you get those flares cut off yet?
Posted by: r_towle Dec 4 2008, 10:40 PM
lack of self
need for acceptance
and damn...your slow..
that is a two hour job.....
Rich
Posted by: greenie Dec 4 2008, 10:55 PM
Curt, You are under orders from the General. There is no philosophy. Only duty.
Did you get those flares cut off yet?
I'm still working on "the Generals" orders.
Posted by: greenie Dec 4 2008, 10:58 PM
lack of self
need for acceptance
and damn...your slow..
that is a two hour job.....
Rich
Please elaborate on the " lack of self".
Slow I agree, it was like working on a ship in a bottle.
Posted by: SGB Dec 4 2008, 11:12 PM
Face it, we are all C R A Z Y 
Posted by: messix Dec 4 2008, 11:15 PM
it keeps the General happy when you aren't in the house buggering... i mean bugging her. 
Posted by: greenie Dec 4 2008, 11:28 PM
The chronology:
Saturday Night 
after Thanksgiving) drive home from Mom's house in Oregon.
I'll do some work, start messing around, I'll take the doors off..
no problem.
Monday Night: After stopping by to say Hi to my buddy Nick at EuroTech , he say's "just cut those rails out". On my lunch I spend $30.00 in grinding wheels and an arbor at Tool Town.
Home I go on a mission... I cut the frikin thing out only to find I now cannot get it out of the door panel... It's reverse of the ship in a bottle. I go to bed.
Tuesday: On a mission I starting splitting it in half so I'm able to remove it. My grinding/cut-off wheel becomes to small in diameter, I can't reach the depth I need to cut the formed channel. I go to bed...
Wednesday: More wheels from Tool Town ..come home cut the fucher in half...go to bed.
Thursday: Tonight ! Pleasure, channel is out and I successfully massage the dents out!
Four day's one dent..... 
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 4 2008, 11:34 PM
Curt, in science we say that even proving something is wrong is good science. In this case, you have proven Jeff wrong... Good science if you ask me!
Posted by: johnnie5 Dec 4 2008, 11:36 PM
AMEN, SGB.....AMEN 
Posted by: Dr. Roger Dec 4 2008, 11:38 PM
like any good shrink will ask next...
"and how did that make you feel"???
Posted by: greenie Dec 4 2008, 11:40 PM
Curt, in science we say that even proving something is wrong is good science. In this case, you have proven Jeff wrong... Good science if you ask me!
I love this!
Jeff is the Stevie Ray Vaughn of the 914 World, he makes everything he touches look easy.
Posted by: slow914 Dec 5 2008, 12:48 AM
Congratulations, it aint that bad plus you last a little weight ehh, every bit counts, now you gotta do the other side to even it out, and no I don't think Ill follow your lead, my door dent just ads character
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Dec 5 2008, 03:01 AM
That's all 
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 5 2008, 07:15 AM
I wouldnt have cut the beems out. It was a little tiny small crease .
That Car is an easy fix, just visit some of the rust repair threads and you will be Buying me another Beer for Thanks.
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 5 2008, 07:29 AM
TGIF
Posted by: iamchappy Dec 5 2008, 08:55 AM
Cutting them out is easy compared to putting them back in.......
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Dec 5 2008, 09:07 AM
How are you going to get the welder back in there to put them back in? Thats the real trick.
Zach
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 09:10 AM
How are you going to get the welder back in there to put them back in? Thats the real trick.
Zach
I just backdated it like my "74", not ever going back in!
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 09:24 AM
These were some very thoughtful replies to my philosphical question.
Here's what I learned from the replies:
White collar guy's are very slow... but we do like to and it's a great escape from our white collar world plus I get to use all these cool tools!
Always ask Jeff for advice prior to cutting 
These things are very heavy, probably twenty lbs , 10 gauge steel.
The passenger side structure will remain intact, to counterbalance my fat ass.
"and how did that make you feel"??? Accomplished, tired, when there's a will there's a way. What else am I going to do watch TV?
" lack of self"
need for acceptance I'm still fuzzy on this?
Posted by: PanelBilly Dec 5 2008, 12:51 PM
Come on now, you know you need to cut it out of the passenger side too. Besides, now you've figured it out.
I'm telling you, if you don't cut it out, your tires will wear wrong and the car will corner funny
Posted by: Wes V Dec 5 2008, 01:20 PM
Now you would be really obsessed if you;
Weigh the cross bar sections, drill holes to lighten it, re-weigh it so you know how much weight you removed, then weld it all back in.
Of course, you will have to remove the door skin in order to weld it back in correctly.
A replacement door skin should still be available through Porsche for around $2500. (but is on a 5 month back-order)
Then, as posted prior, you would have to do the same thing to the other door in order to have the car balanced.
Wes
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Dec 5 2008, 01:37 PM
I'm actually planning on cuttng those out of my car too Curt. Want to come over and help?
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 5 2008, 03:59 PM
I am sure he meant "lack of self-esteem". Put another way, you are ego-dystonic with your persona... You needed to do this to prove your worth to the "World". Having accomplished this you are now ego-syntonic with your image. Now that you are a happy guy maybe you could show us more pictures of the General's bilaterally-symetrical supra-costal sub-epithelial exocrine tissue?
Ask a philisophical question, expect a complicated answer!
By the way, how much did your cuttings weigh?
Posted by: PanelBilly Dec 5 2008, 05:27 PM
I have a set of 73 doors and some off a 75 for parts and the newer ones weigh so much more.
That could be partly due to all the sanding I've done on the 73s trying to make it smooth as glass. By the way, I couldn't handle that the paint on my doors, hood and trunk were not perfect, so I'm sanding off the clear coat and redoing them!
See your not alone in your desease.
Posted by: r_towle Dec 5 2008, 07:17 PM
" lack of self"
need for acceptance I'm still fuzzy on this?
Well,
We are just happy that you had to think about it for more than a minute, even a day...kinda like the fender flare saga you put us through......
Rich
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 07:36 PM
I am sure he meant "lack of self-esteem". Put another way, you are ego-dystonic with your persona... You needed to do this to prove your worth to the "World". Having accomplished this you are now ego-syntonic with your image. Now that you are a happy guy maybe you could show us more pictures of the General's bilaterally-symetrical supra-costal sub-epithelial exocrine tissue?
Ask a philisophical question, expect a complicated answer!
By the way, how much did your cuttings weigh?
Huh? How did a
ever learn such fancy words?Are you taking about Boobs somewhere in that paragraph?
Using my "white collar" intellect , standing on the bathroom scale with these rails in hand it reads 189 lbs. Without the rails ( just me) it reads 175 lbs.
I guess the answer to the weight is 14 lbs!
Definitely worth four nights of my time although the passenger side is staying as is.
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 07:38 PM
" lack of self"
need for acceptance I'm still fuzzy on this?
Well,
We are just happy that you had to think about it for more than a minute, even a day...kinda like the fender flare saga you put us through......
Rich
I guess that that saying" paybacks are a bitch" is true.
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 07:39 PM
I'm actually planning on cuttng those out of my car too Curt. Want to come over and help?
Really it's easy Jon, trust me...
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Dec 5 2008, 07:50 PM
I'm actually planning on cuttng those out of my car too Curt. Want to come over and help?
Really it's easy Jon, trust me...
You're more than welcome to come show me how it's done
Posted by: r_towle Dec 5 2008, 07:57 PM
Are you taking about Boobs somewhere in that paragraph?
Yes that is exactly what you owe the community.
Rich
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 07:59 PM
Are you taking about Boobs somewhere in that paragraph?
Yes that is exactly what you owe the community.
Rich
You are a funny guy!
You gotta let go of the grudges, they'll eat you up.
Posted by: greenie Dec 5 2008, 08:22 PM
I'm thinking about listing these in the classifieds?
New and improved "Safety Protection"
Innovative "two piece" construction!
(some welding & assembly required)
I'm not sure on the asking price?
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Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 5 2008, 08:26 PM
I'm thinking about listing these in the classifieds?
New and improved "Safety Protection"
Innovative "two piece" construction!
(some welding & assembly required)
I'm not sure on the asking price?
I'm sure the Krusty One could give you an answer.
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 5 2008, 11:39 PM
I am sure he meant "lack of self-esteem". Put another way, you are ego-dystonic with your persona... You needed to do this to prove your worth to the "World". Having accomplished this you are now ego-syntonic with your image. Now that you are a happy guy maybe you could show us more pictures of the General's bilaterally-symetrical supra-costal sub-epithelial exocrine tissue?
Ask a philisophical question, expect a complicated answer!
By the way, how much did your cuttings weigh?
Huh? How did a
ever learn such fancy words?Are you taking about Boobs somewhere in that paragraph?
Using my "white collar" intellect , standing on the bathroom scale with these rails in hand it reads 189 lbs. Without the rails ( just me) it reads 175 lbs.
I guess the answer to the weight is 14 lbs!
Definitely worth four nights of my time although the passenger side is staying as is.
I aren't your average
And you are correct in your deciphering of the technical anatomical language.
Nice work Curt!
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