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Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 06:48 PM

How it looked back in the day.

T.C.

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 16 2008, 06:55 PM

Always glad to see another 6 comming back to life!!

Posted by: rjames Dec 16 2008, 06:58 PM

So how does it look now?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:00 PM

The Day I got it



The Parts I got with it

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 16 2008, 07:02 PM

You did not get enough parts with it!!!

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:04 PM

NOS Factory M-471 Flares



NOS Oil Tank



Other New Parts

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:07 PM

Disection begins ( this is the point you might want to cover your eyes)

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:11 PM

It gets worse before it gets better







Factory Antenna location

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:14 PM

Rust Never Sleeps


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Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:18 PM

This car deserves a Purple Heart ( or Rusty Purple Heart) Medal

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:21 PM

A Little more & Then the Work Begins

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:25 PM

1st Intermission - go get a tissue for your eyes

The Original engine - The COA was wrong



But it will get a 2.7RS

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:28 PM

Back to Work

Posted by: 396 Dec 16 2008, 07:29 PM

Good luck with this project. It's way way too too much for me:)

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:30 PM

Gotta Keep Going

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:33 PM

Now it starts to get ugly again, cuz you gotta dig to fix & fit

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:36 PM

More, More Work

Posted by: jc914 Dec 16 2008, 07:39 PM

Great job it is very very impressive what you are doing keep up the great job and keep us posted

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:39 PM

2nd Intermission - Dr. Evil's Sideshift conversion to the original tailshifter





And My Personal Plate

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 16 2008, 07:47 PM

Another one saved!
Andy

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:48 PM

Thanks to Brian Cheney (bcheney) for next group of shots

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:49 PM

More Pictures courtesy of Brian

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:52 PM

More Progress ( sorry I got these out of Sequence)

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:56 PM

3rd Intermission ( Get used to these)

Eric Shea's PMB Performance 914-6 GT rear Calipers

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 07:59 PM

More of Brian's pictures

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:00 PM

Keepin em coming

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:02 PM

Thanks Brian

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:05 PM

4th Intermission

Real Recaro 914-6GT seats ( from the Strenger GT)



GT Light Kit



Karmann GE Fogs front & rear

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:09 PM

Found some more from Brian

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:11 PM

More from Brian

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:12 PM

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:15 PM

5th Intermission

JWest RennShifter - Thanks Duc (Number6)

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:19 PM

Last Week

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 08:21 PM

I've got blisters on my fingers




That's all for now - I should have some more pictures the end of next week.

T.C.

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Dec 16 2008, 08:52 PM

Where'd you get that GT light kit?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 09:01 PM

rennenmetal.com

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 16 2008, 09:02 PM

Oh & by the way, this car has 19,000 Documented Miles!

T.C.

Posted by: watsonrx13 Dec 17 2008, 05:57 AM

Fantastic job TC....

-- Rob

Posted by: URY914 Dec 17 2008, 08:11 AM

I saw this car several years ago before TC bought it. I thought it was a lost cause. Good to see it coming back to life.

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 17 2008, 08:47 AM

Wow! Great job!

Posted by: Lou W Dec 17 2008, 07:56 PM

Looking good.

Posted by: number6 Dec 17 2008, 10:00 PM

TC, now I really feel bad for not having cleaned the shifter!
Speaking of the Rennshift, did you receive it in good shape? FedEx says it was left at your door today.

I really admire the work you've done on this car and will anxiously follow your progress. She's going to be one hell of a car!

-duc

Posted by: bcheney Dec 17 2008, 10:19 PM

TC

You are a good man to take on this project. I can't wait til the day we go for drive!!

Brian

Posted by: Mr.242 Dec 18 2008, 10:09 AM

19,000 miles driven thru a SALT SPRAY BOOTH.


Fabulous job....can't wait to see the end.....but no hurry.

What is the Date/GOAL for completion?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 18 2008, 12:25 PM

The Paint shop has told me I will have the car back in Febuary. Then I can start putting her back together.

T.C.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Dec 18 2008, 12:32 PM

So if they told you February does that mean you should be ready around April?

Can't wait to see how it comes out T.C.

Posted by: URY914 Dec 18 2008, 02:10 PM

February 2010.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 18 2008, 02:24 PM

Thanks for your support

T.C.

Posted by: veltror Dec 25 2008, 07:57 PM

This is just like my British rustoration thread, just as rotten and mine is a four...

R

Posted by: carr914 Dec 30 2008, 06:13 PM

Update pictures from today. Not a lot of work in the last 2 weeks, as there was Christmas and alot of improvements in the shop, ie new lifts.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 30 2008, 06:16 PM

Next week the new floor pans will go in and the suspension will be pulled. Then the the passenger rear fender will go back on and then the car will get blasted.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 30 2008, 06:18 PM

More pics in a couple of weeks

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 07:18 AM

This is going to be like one of those movies (think Tarantino) that your finally getting the plot, then it switchs back in time.

I found a photo file from when I got the car. Here goes

T.C.

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Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 07:27 AM

Nice placement of a Hood Emblem

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 07:30 AM

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 07:38 AM

More parts





2 914-6 trannies in addition to all the trannies on page 1



I'll be back to the Future soon,

T.C.

Posted by: scotty b Jan 3 2009, 08:22 AM

What is the difference in a 6 tranny and a 4 tranny ? Gearing ?

Oh and BTW I like that RARE trunk crest

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 08:55 AM

There is a gearing differnce and the intermediate plate is different. The intermediate plate has the bell-crank for the throttle linkage.

That pic of the 2 trannies - one is a six, one is a regular 4, but I did get 2 914-6 trannies out of the 8 I got with the car.

T.C.

Posted by: burton73 Jan 3 2009, 12:33 PM

T.C.

Are you going to put GT stiffing kit on the rear?

Bob

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 01:14 PM

Only doing an Engman Kit

T.C.

Posted by: burton73 Jan 3 2009, 05:45 PM

T.C.

#41 was running the 2.5 SS for 30,000 miles with 7 inch BBS with Michelins. Some where in there these stress cracks appeared. There is no rust on this car in any place in the rear of this car or longs. I believe that there is a lot of stress put on this area of the car as the underside of transmission is bolted there in the center. It is like the step of a ladder. This is one of the main points of the GT kit and that is why I am putting Rick J's kit in.


With the wider wheels like I will be running and the bigger HP it is something to consider.

Bob

Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2009, 06:55 PM

I'm not sure of the exact area of the shot since it is a close-up. But that is at a seam which the kits don't cover, which I think put more stress on the seams.

Also the plan for this car is a restore 914-6 GT that I probably won't drive much, in that I have another more Hot-Rod 914-6 Conversion. Yes the Real Six (673) will get a good high HP motor, but it will not get stressed the way I have other cars.

Also if need be I have the templates for the stiffening kit that I could make in the future and add if need be

T.C.

Posted by: burton73 Jan 5 2009, 05:57 PM

T.C.,

I just wanted to point out that I believe the kit strengthen this part. You see the place where the jack goes so you now should know where this is. Sorry to make every one guess where it was in the car. I am more intimate with every part of my car as I am so close to it. Now that I have 1/3 of my GT kit in my welding is getting much better. This will mean less grinding for me.

Bob

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 5 2009, 06:18 PM

right side up


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Posted by: carr914 Jan 5 2009, 06:37 PM

My newest addition. Bought off eBay, Original - Not a Reprint $55

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 7 2009, 02:36 PM

Another new addition. Thanks Lavanaut

T.C.

Posted by: FourBlades Jan 7 2009, 04:29 PM

Send that manual back, the bottom left corner is bent!!!



John

Posted by: carr914 Jan 7 2009, 07:16 PM

FedEx just got here at 8pm with a package from Pelican - new rear trunk seal and a 930 Rubber shift boot like the one on my RennShifter as I'm in the process of making a custom center console for my other 914-6

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 26 2009, 06:13 PM

A few more pieces.

a 3.2 Oil Pump and the Electromotive Crankfire Trigger Wheel. When I bought my Electromotive, it was missing the trigger wheel. A friend had the wheel, the oil pump and a set of $2,000 cams that I picked up for a song.

My 1st motor should be ready by the time #673 is painted.

T.C.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 26 2009, 06:20 PM

I don't think so. This part is a double-wall and the GT piece is on the other side of that double-wall. There's 1/4" of air between the spot-welds inside the trunk and the GT "reinforcement" on the other side.


What people don't realize, the GT chassis kit was a complete shot in the dark by Porsche. They added a few patches where they thought they might add some strength. They were under tremendous time pressure to get those cars ready for the track, this wasn't a well thought out and engineered product.

I'm sure there's quite a few people today who could come up with better solutions ...
Andy

Posted by: FourBlades Jan 26 2009, 08:00 PM

T.C.: What kind of cams cost $2000?

Were they used by Angelina Jolie as a sex toy?

John

Posted by: carr914 Jan 26 2009, 10:02 PM

The cams are Elgin 310/296 grind for a 2.8 race motor. This motor will be a twin-plug, Factory P&Cs, Carillo rods, Weber 46's, built on a sand-cast aluminum case. I think it will be at least 300hp.

My other motor that will be done 1st will be a 2.7, Single-plug, RS P&Cs, aggresive cams (don't have the specs handy), balanced factory rods, Weber 40's on a magnesium 7R case that has already been machined, shuffle-pinned etc. I expect this one will be 250 hp. Both motors will be Dyno'd

I base the projected HP numbers on the last motor I had built, which was a 2.5 Twin-Plug.

T.C.

here is the 2.5 on the Dyno

Posted by: dlestep Jan 26 2009, 11:03 PM

...I agree with SirAndy...I have been researching the web and looking through historical books for placement and attachment of the stiffening plates.
This is what I have found.
CONUS - most of the people that have added their stiffening plates have actually applied them to the outside vertical wall of the boxed section only and have not carried the additional metal over the seam. This is focusing more stress to the spot welds along the seam. The 90 degree sections just above the seam would act like "live" hinges under extreme stress. The stiffening plates end at least 6 to 9 inches forward of the trans-axle cross member. I would seam weld all that is shown in your picture on both sides.
Europe - Porsche welders were not known to produce beautiful welds. Most of them were pretty uguly in fact. But note the wrapping of the metal over the seam in the attached photos. This wrap ties the two 90 degree bends with the seam and is much more stronger than just laminating the vertical wall.
Dave

Posted by: Lavanaut Jan 27 2009, 12:52 AM

Happy to contribute a part to the cause, since you did to mine as well.


If you think of it, please let me know how that trunk seal install goes TC, I've got one to do myself.

Reid

Posted by: carr914 Feb 1 2009, 12:25 PM

Not as much progress as I would like, but the 2 guys in the shop have been sick lately.

Thanks to bcheney for stopping by the shop to take these pictures for me.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 1 2009, 12:28 PM

The passenger rear fender is back on after all the repairs were done underneath.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 1 2009, 12:29 PM

The floor is next.

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 1 2009, 05:28 PM

Looks great ,fender on I'd loose th ducktail though.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 2 2009, 08:30 AM

that's a carbon-fiber Ducktail I had from a previous Carrera project that I traded to the shop. A ducktail would make a lot of downforce though

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 12 2009, 10:33 AM

Here are my original GT Recaros -



the insert fabric will definately not look good against Signal Orange, so I think I'm going with...






Houndstooth

Posted by: carr914 Feb 18 2009, 11:35 AM

New Addition - a NOS 914-6 Relay Board

I have one from my car, but this was so insanely cheap, I had to get it.

T.C.

Posted by: Justinp71 Feb 18 2009, 10:17 PM

Have you thought about the Brad Meyeur kit? I've heard that it adds alot more structural rigidity...

Posted by: carr914 Feb 19 2009, 06:55 AM

I'm doing the Engman as it is really overkill, I have one on another car, and it is already purchased.

I say overkill, in that I've replaced the entire longitudinal from the rear wheel to the front and i also used a clamshell over that. Replaced part of the drivers side long. Replaced the entire floor. Adding the Engman only strengthens all that. The Engman is very well made.

I know Brad, in fact he brokered this car to the owner before me. I have no experience with his kit, nor do I know anybody that has it, so I went with what I know works well.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 12 2009, 06:42 PM

Progress on the Compliance Sticker

Posted by: carr914 Mar 12 2009, 06:49 PM

A Mini-Poll question within a thread:

Since I'm putting so many Real GT Parts on this restoration would Mini-Lites on the rear look out of place?

Like This

Posted by: Derek Seymour Mar 12 2009, 07:03 PM

I say go for it!

Seems like you are doing the "period correct" style of restoration/GT upgrade?

If I remember correctly some GT's had the minilites for the same reason the 911 ST did.. Fuch's with that offset/width were not made yet?

I personally think it looks pretty cool...

Posted by: MDG Mar 12 2009, 07:21 PM

Firstly, what you've done so far is fantastic! I can't wait to see more. As far as your mini-poll, my humble opinion will always lead to Fuchs as far as wheel choice goes; what a genius piece of design/engineering.

Lastly, a question; didn't the GT's that ran with the Mini-Lites all have widened rear flares? I thought that was why they went with the Mini's in the first place - once the standard flare was widened there were no Fuchs available in the wider size so they put on the Mini-Lites

Posted by: Joe Sharp Mar 12 2009, 07:24 PM

Go for it.

Posted by: gms Mar 12 2009, 07:56 PM

MiniLites would look very good and correct!

Posted by: maf914 Mar 13 2009, 11:48 AM

I didn't know that. I always wondered why vintage photos often showed 914 GT's with Minilites on the rear and Fuchs on the front. Now I see.

That said, I still prefer either all Fuchs or all Minilites.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 13 2009, 11:54 AM

LOVE the Minilites...espcially if you dial the stance and tires like the yeller' car.

pete

Posted by: pktzygt Mar 13 2009, 12:29 PM

I like little details like minilites on the rear that set the car apart. Any normal person is gonna wonder what you were thinking, but someone that knows what's going on is gonna smile.

Posted by: charliew Mar 13 2009, 01:13 PM

It looks like the inner fender lip is non existent on the yellow car above the minlites.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 14 2009, 12:00 PM

The Mini-Poll is over, it will be Fuchs on all corners. I was hoping to sell a set of my Fuchs & then buy the Minis, but the Fuchs did not sell, so I will RSR finish them.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 14 2009, 12:06 PM

Paging Eric Shea, Mr. Shea Please pick up the courtesy phone.

Eric I picked up these Aluminum 911S calipers this morning (rfuerst got a set too)
and I set you an eMail to determine re-build costs

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 23 2009, 10:32 AM

Just got my Factory GT seats back from the upholstry shop - Major Porn - these are going to look so kick-ass in a Signal Orange car.

T.C.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 23 2009, 10:48 AM

TC those are Nice !

Posted by: johnnie5 Mar 23 2009, 11:25 AM

Looks awesome, love the Houndstooth! Of course, I am bias...


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Posted by: johannes Mar 23 2009, 11:51 AM

I L-O-V-E your seats ! I looks awesome ! I want the same !!!! ...

Posted by: carr914 Mar 23 2009, 12:59 PM

I now have a connection on the Black&White Houndstooth as well as a Camel (2-tone brown) Houndstooth which would look good in a Tan interior car.

T.C.

Posted by: bcheney Mar 24 2009, 07:40 PM

Very cool lookin seats TC! Wonder how that would look in a yellow car???

Posted by: carr914 Mar 25 2009, 06:12 AM

I think B&W goes with every color, but it might slow down a yellow car.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 25 2009, 06:17 AM

Another addition - Blaupunkt Frankfurt. My car was Factory Equiped (Rare) with a Frankfurt, but the the radio was one of the few things that didn't come with the car when I bought it. I have attempted to get one of these for a year. They go from free (always too late) to very expensive. This one is very nice and moderately priced.

T.C.

Posted by: Richard Casto Mar 25 2009, 02:48 PM

TC,

What was your method for replicating the anti-peel circular pattern on the sticker?

Richard

Posted by: jt914-6 Mar 25 2009, 03:52 PM

TC,
FYI, I have a set of Brad's kit. They are really nice. I'm not sure about the Engman kit, but Brad's kit comes back to the area where the camber shimms go and become a shimm themselves. Thought that was a good feature..........

Posted by: carr914 Mar 25 2009, 06:51 PM

5mm biopsy tool, practice and patience. Still waiting as another member is making me a jig to perforate the Vin# and birth code.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 25 2009, 06:53 PM

I went with the Engman kit, as that was before Brad's, plus I wanted to tie in the new longs, floors & rear firewall

T.C.

Posted by: Richard Casto Mar 26 2009, 07:07 AM

Nice idea on the biopsy tool. I know exactly what you are taking about. I am assuming you have to be in the medial industry to get one of those? Or is there a source of these for every day people?

Regarding the punch, how is he making the jig?

I was thinking about this myself and I was wondering if you could create a template (MS Word or similar) for the characters used on the sticker (0-9, etc.). Then using those characters, create and print a dimensionally correct paper template with all of the sticker info info on it. You would then align this template over your sticker and use a custom hole punch to punch each hole one by one.

I was thinking that the custom hole punch might be created by selecting a drill bit of the correct diameter (those holes are pretty small), drill a hole in a steel plate with the bit, then sharpen flat one edge fo the bit and polish the surface of the block to complete the punch. I guess if you wanted to get really crazy, you could convert an existing hole punch with the custom bit and block.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 26 2009, 07:32 AM

If you go to my "pissed off & need advice" thread about the compliance sticker there is a link to a thread on the Early911 forum about the same problem. There is a member there that offers a kit that includes the 5mm Biopsy tool, 2 correct stickers and 2 practice stickers for $30 shipped (quick). Compare that to 2 stickers from AA for $22 plus shipping and it's deal. Use the practice stickers - I didn't practice enough.

As far as the jig for the Vin#, I think it is being made out of 2 pieces of metal with the complete grid, so it can be used time & time again.

T.C.

Posted by: MDG Mar 26 2009, 07:38 AM

T.C., nice score on the Frankfurt; can't wait to see more progress pics of the car Oh, and the Fuchs you've refinished look fantastic.

Posted by: johnnie5 Apr 8 2009, 12:20 PM

Will you divulge your source for the Houndstooth fabric?

Posted by: 6freak Apr 8 2009, 12:38 PM

Did the 914-6GT come with a radio?.I thought they where perpose built race cars so why would they have a radio?....added weight...P.S very cool car

Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 01:08 PM

Well, all I can say is this car came from the Factory with a Blaupunkt Frankfurt, which is very Rare to have a Factory install. So between the beautiful Houndstooth, the radio and all the Real M-471 & GT parts this will be a Hybrid - I wonder if I can get a Tax Break

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 01:11 PM

My upholstery guy will be more than glad to Drop-Ship the material.

You can get ahold of him at
upholsterybycimo.com
or call 813-975-0009 ask for Tom - tell him T.C. sent you

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 02:37 PM

My 1st completed Compliance sticker to replace the one that the Knucklehead at the shop took off.

I think that once applied, smoothed out and some Signal Orange showing through the holes it will look OK

T.C.

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Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 05:53 PM

I Hate Rust

Posted by: bcheney Apr 8 2009, 05:54 PM

Damn...that looks good TC. Nice job!!

Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 05:54 PM

The other side is nice & tidy now

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Posted by: carr914 Apr 8 2009, 05:58 PM

I'm gonna replace the crossmember brace before the floor goes in, too much rust on it, my as well put more new metal in.

T.C.

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Posted by: 6freak Apr 9 2009, 08:05 AM

Right on

Posted by: carr914 May 1 2009, 05:40 PM

Here is a sample of the Camel Houndstooth that some people had asked me about

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 May 1 2009, 05:48 PM

Update on #673 - Nothing has been done in the last 3 weeks. When I was there last I needed to order the crossmember that is right in front of the seats. I ordered the parts from AA and they were delivered 2 weeks later. In the meantime the shop owner went to Paris with his girlfriend. After I bought #1724, I realized that 2 complete crossmembers came with the car - one set from AA & one nice set out of a donor car. I asked the shop not to install the piece I bought from AA so I could return it. I brought them over the donor piece along with some other parts from #1724 that can go on this car and picked up the pieces that I need to send back to AA. Nothing wrong with the parts from AA, but it's now something I didn't need to spend money on. The shop was going to put the donor crossmember in after I left and finally the new floor pans can go in. I hope that things will move along faster now.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 May 27 2009, 03:23 PM

The Drivers side Long rust cut out - hopefully this is the last of the Rot

Posted by: carr914 May 27 2009, 03:24 PM

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Posted by: carr914 May 29 2009, 06:21 PM

Going to bring the Electrical system into the 21st Century. Thanks ENG(man) Meister for a great product and "justme" for a good deal.

T.C.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc May 29 2009, 06:37 PM

TC it's looking good. When do you think Gary will be done with it? Is he painting it also?

Posted by: carr914 May 29 2009, 07:11 PM

Yes, he is painting it and #1724. At the rate he is going, it will be finished the day before the earth runs out of gas

T.C.

Posted by: URY914 May 29 2009, 08:05 PM

About the same time Solent Green is sold at McDonald's.

Oh wait, I think it already is....

Posted by: carr914 May 30 2009, 04:29 AM

Is that on the Dollar Menu?

Posted by: carr914 Jun 11 2009, 05:56 PM

Good News - The Floors are finally in, hopefully this means a speedy completion.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 11 2009, 05:59 PM

Re-Wrapped 914-6/Carrera RS Wheel with Hockey Puck

T.C.

Posted by: URY914 Jun 11 2009, 07:06 PM

No comment

Posted by: carr914 Jun 13 2009, 01:12 PM

The Floors are in

T.C.

Posted by: URY914 Jun 13 2009, 05:07 PM

SWEET!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 17 2009, 08:06 AM

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jun 17 2009, 08:56 AM

looking great man!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 22 2009, 07:14 AM

Well, since it's late June, maybe I can get it back by Paul's date

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 28 2009, 08:42 AM

I put the Tall Manifolds on the IDAs

T.C.

Posted by: bcheney Jul 30 2009, 07:53 PM

Some fresh update pics for ya TC...enjoy!




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Posted by: URY914 Jul 30 2009, 08:57 PM

Damn, that a lot of work. No wonder it's taken so long.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 30 2009, 10:50 PM

Thanks for the pictures Brian, enjoy your trip.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 30 2009, 10:56 PM

Yep, now you know why that Asshat I bought it from wanted to do a Vin Swap.

I'm certainly glad that #1724 is in so much better condition.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 20 2009, 02:07 PM

100mm 914-6GT (4 Hole) and 917/911R (5 Hole) Gas Caps I think the Black one will go on this car

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 28 2009, 02:45 PM

Well, I just talked to the shop and they are finishing up all the patchs and metal work. So it will go the Soda-Blast shop soon.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 28 2009, 02:50 PM

In the meantime I got a care package from PMB - 911S front Calipers w/ Porterfields

Before




and After

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Aug 28 2009, 06:44 PM

TC those S calipers look sweeet ! We stole those didn't we ?

Posted by: carr914 Aug 29 2009, 08:13 AM

Yes we did, too bad we didn't get the 5th one

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 04:38 PM

Took a bunch of parts over to the shop today and to see the progress. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. 98% of the welding is done and it will go to the blasters in about a week. Then final paint prep and then sprayed

T.C.


Caught Jason working on the car



The Engman kit is in. This is the 1st Engman they have done (they have done over 20 sets of Steel Flares) and they really liked it.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 04:41 PM

The underside - all the filler pieces in

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 04:45 PM

By The Numbers

Windshield Vin



Front Trunk Vin Stamp



Chassis #

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 04:49 PM

And upon further evaluation #673 will become my GT Recreation and #1724 will be the street car.

This was based on with all the welding and stiffening that has been done #673 will be the stronger car. So it will get the 2.8 Twin-Plug and all the Real GT bits.

#1724 as it is more original with no metal being replaced will be the Street 914-6.

T.C.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 16 2009, 05:24 PM

Hi Tom
I noticed that your C of A says build date 4/70 but your Vin is 422 earlier than one of mine and my build date is 3 / 70 !!!! (car # 1095) then I see that your door sticker says 2 / 70. I know of at least one other case of incorrect factory info .
I guess C of A's aint the last word now are they ?
Is this the car from Florida that came with a load of GT parts ? 906 oil cooler etc. etc. ?
I wanted that package.
Hey fill me in on the VIN sticker repro deal.
I have my original but it's on the door jamb that was replaced .
If a repro can be done well I don't have to risk trying to move my original to the new jamb.
Please write when you have a chance.
Thank you
Rory rgalla9146@aol.com
PS great work ! You are a glutton for punishment

Posted by: ghuff Sep 16 2009, 05:39 PM

TC it looks like they removed the center tunnel, did they?

and teh cross brace is new or removed?

I have to remove both on my 914 to get the floors clean enough for my taste to por-15 in there.

As it sits now it is just light surface, but that will change fast into my floors rotting from the center tunnel out unless taken care of.

Can you ask them how much that job sucked? I asked around this board and nobody answered.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 06:04 PM

Rory,
CoA's (Certificate of Authenticity for those noobies) are close to worthless and the 1 for this car is an older one when they used to give you more info.

No this is not the car that came with all the GT parts (that is #1724, that I'm also re-doing) but I made the Executive decision that this car will get the GT parts.

I will send you a pm about the door jam compliance sticker. You will never get the old one off in one piece.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2009, 06:08 PM

No the Center Tunnel was not removed. The cross brace is new to this car (it came out of a donor car)

Removing the crossbrace and replacing it is fairly easy, I've done a couple.

T.C.

Posted by: stuttgart46 Sep 17 2009, 10:40 AM

Who's doing the work for you? That looks really good so far.
Are you planning on running HSR? I haven't been to one of their events in years. How is participation lately?

Posted by: carr914 Sep 17 2009, 12:57 PM

Hi Chad,
Stratton Motorsports in Orlando is doing all the Welding & Paint. I will re-assemble the car.

I really don't know what I will do will the car, but probably not HSR - with the 2.8 Twin-Plug I would be put in the catagory with cars that will kick the snot out of this car. Plus you can't use Electro-motive crank-fire igntion which this car will have.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 17 2009, 10:55 PM

Well, today I worked on the A-Arms. Wire-wheeled and sand-blasted them, then into the Glass-bead cabinet. Then primered & painted them.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 21 2009, 06:21 PM

Took a car-load of parts to Orlando today. It is scheduled for the blaster next week.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 21 2009, 06:24 PM

Also I hate it when you know that you have a part and can't find it. I knew I had another 912 Hockey Puck Horn Button, but I was on my 4th seach thru the garage when I finally found the Bugger. Now it's safe.

T.C.

Posted by: 9146986 Sep 21 2009, 08:35 PM

I see you went with the left and right pans, which I like best!

Looks like very good work being done there TC!!!

Posted by: carr914 Oct 10 2009, 07:00 PM

Get Ready for some Major Engine Porn

My New PMO 46s

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Posted by: 396 Oct 11 2009, 09:53 AM

Keep it coming... engine porn! Congrats!

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Posted by: plays with cars Oct 11 2009, 02:57 PM

Wow! Lookin' good T.C. Bet you're anxious to get it on the road. I know I'm dyin' to drive mine, but have a fair amount of work to go before it's running again.

Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming.

Posted by: carr914 Oct 12 2009, 06:27 PM

Dr. Evil, this should be to you in a few days.

T.C.

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Posted by: carr914 Oct 29 2009, 03:29 PM

Well I sold #1724 as a roller, so I will be putting all my Real GT parts on this car. I will be putting some pictures of those parts on this page. Some of you have seen those pictures from my other thread, but feel free to drool all over again.

T.C.

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Posted by: 396 Oct 29 2009, 11:12 PM

Lots of COOL looking GT Parts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!

Posted by: carr914 Nov 7 2009, 05:09 PM

Front Spherical Bearings

Thanks Henry @ SuperTec

Posted by: carr914 Nov 7 2009, 05:13 PM

Rear Spherical Bearing set-up

Thanks Armando for the Modified Trailing Arms

Thanks John @ HamFab

Posted by: carr914 Nov 27 2009, 05:02 PM

Thanks Again to Brian Cheney (bcheney) for some pictures of my car.

Here she is at the Media Blasters before undergoing cosmetic surgery

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Posted by: carr914 Nov 27 2009, 05:12 PM

Stayed tuned here for after blasting pictures as well as more engine porn. Things are really starting to pick-up steam

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 28 2009, 04:57 PM

My GT Brass Hard Oil Lines showed up today -

T.C.

Posted by: pete-stevers Nov 28 2009, 09:28 PM

I love all the stuff you have for your hot lil number
but jeeeeez do you really have to let the skin flash rust in that hot humid enviroment ??
a bit of primer would have gone a long way, and then no need to media blast

Posted by: carr914 Nov 29 2009, 06:34 AM

Pete, I agree the flash rust doesn't look pretty, but #1, the shop did not think that it would take them this long, & #2, there was so much structual rust that is would have had to been media blasted anyway.

The nice thing now is after blasting, we are moving to the completion of this stage.

T.C.

Posted by: pete-stevers Nov 29 2009, 01:18 PM

But the goodies....damn you have a lot of goodies!
when i look at my stash, it pales in comparision

Posted by: stuttgart46 Nov 29 2009, 02:32 PM

I wish I was there to help you put it back together. It's looking good.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 30 2009, 07:04 AM

Chad, if you're coming to the 48Hours or the 12 Hours and spending a few days in Tampa with the Folks, I'm sure I can find a spare wrench for you.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 30 2009, 08:57 AM

Some new front rotors

Posted by: carr914 Nov 30 2009, 09:00 AM

A New Valeo Altenator, cause I don't trust rebuilt or used ones - should have the 1st motor all buttoned up soon

Posted by: carr914 Dec 1 2009, 06:45 PM

More Goodies - Since I have 2 Hi-End Motors, a 2.8 Twin-Plug and a 2.7 RS, I need to be able to store the second motor that is not in the car.

A 911 Engine Yoke, Table Stand & Flywheel Lock

Posted by: bandjoey Dec 1 2009, 06:50 PM

Good Gosh Almighty. What a beautiful bunch of parts. Can't wait to see the car complete! Let us know how to get on the 914 Stimulus Plan so we can afford those -6 parts, too. Bill

Posted by: carr914 Dec 1 2009, 06:50 PM

I had a bunch of those Plastic A-Arm bushings sitting around - everybody knows they sqeek. Brian (bcheney) talked me into buying Rubber Bushings, then after reading a few threads about how they deform, I decide to buy some Elephant Racing Poly-Graphite bushings.



And some 22MM Sway-Away Torsion Bars

Posted by: carr914 Dec 1 2009, 06:52 PM

I'm Unemployed

T.C.

Posted by: bandjoey Dec 1 2009, 07:10 PM

Been there doing that all this year. With only part time work my car is a one piece at a time project too....just not as nice of parts. Congrats!

Posted by: carr914 Dec 1 2009, 08:46 PM

Believe me if I hadn't paid for the engines, the car, the bodyshop work, etc before I lost my job, I could have Never done this. I also sold my other 914-6 to fund this one.

T.C.

Posted by: pete-stevers Dec 1 2009, 09:39 PM

that is shitty losing a job
but you have quite a stash of parts to lean on....if you are ever in need of cash!!
i hope you find another way to keep your stash of parts growing!

Posted by: carr914 Dec 1 2009, 09:49 PM

Oh this will go to completition even if I have to sell my son. Come to think about it, I will give him away.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 2 2009, 03:29 PM

Some WEVO Tranny mounts - these are cool, even though they will hardly ever be seen.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 22 2009, 06:49 PM

Some Christmas Engine Porn

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 22 2009, 06:51 PM

Happy Holidays to All

T.C.

Posted by: MDG Dec 22 2009, 06:54 PM

Back at ya' T.C.

The engine is looking nice!

Posted by: URY914 Dec 22 2009, 06:59 PM

Merry Christmas to T.C. He'll be sleepin' in the garage tonight.

Give us the details...

Posted by: carr914 Dec 22 2009, 07:06 PM

Details;

75 911S 7R case, Shuffle-Pinned, Boat-Tailed, Case Savers

Carrera RS Pistons & Cylinders

4 Bearing Cam Towers

Aggressive Cams ( I will get the numbers for you)

3.2 Oil Pump

Rebuilt Heads, New Valves, HiPo Springs, etc

Rebuilt Weber 40's, Tall PMO Intakes



T.C.

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 22 2009, 09:41 PM

Is this cooler a mod RX-7? If it is any more pic's?
I think I have the same core for my project.
Thanks

Posted by: 396 Dec 22 2009, 09:47 PM

VERY cool...can't wait to see the finished project!!

Posted by: badm Dec 22 2009, 09:47 PM

T.C.
Looking good, its nice to see things start to pull together. Next thing you will be sparking that thing up and letting it purr, porn for the ear's. Ben.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Dec 23 2009, 05:54 AM

TC that is looking good ! And you will really like those polybronze bushings. Can't wait for the day you , me and Brian can finally drive our cars !!!

Posted by: ArtechnikA Dec 23 2009, 06:11 AM

interesting - I am starting with the same...

Was that a difficult mod? IIRC the 4-bearing towers appeared either with or right after problems with the 2,8RSR - and since that's my target, it's what I think I've gotta do too - especially to use any of the 'modern' (e.g. GEnn) cams...

Posted by: carr914 Dec 23 2009, 06:53 AM

No Mark, that is a 914-6 GT Cooler, also used in 910's. The other cooler above it is a RX-7 Cooler, they are almost the same size.

I don't have any other pictures of this Cooler handy, but here are some pictures of another GT Cooler that I sold a few years ago for $2,400.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 23 2009, 06:58 AM

Not a difficult mod at all, and like you said, better to use with a more modern cams.

I bought 2 sets (one set for my 2.7 & one set for my 2.8) of 4 bearing cam towers off Pelican Classifieds fairly inexpensive.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 27 2009, 06:00 AM

1st of all, What is the customary period of time that someone is allowed to stare and drool at a motor before a cover should be put on said motor?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 27 2009, 06:06 AM

My 993 Oil Console. This fits in place of the Oil Cooler on the motor, since I will be running a front cooler. This came Directly from Germany. These used to be 1/4 the Cost

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 27 2009, 07:33 AM

Thanks for the pics of the cooler....guess I'll get this RX-7 cooler welded up:)

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Dec 27 2009, 09:55 AM

TC that is one fine looking motor, I would say you can stare at it for at least a week straight !
I may be wrong but doesn't the RX7 oil cooler have a thermostat built in that has to be removed ? I thought I read that somewhere ? Other than that it is a good cooler.

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 27 2009, 03:32 PM

The reason for the welding

Posted by: carr914 Dec 27 2009, 03:53 PM

It was a joke before (page 3), but now I can only hope.

T.C.

Posted by: faux916 Dec 27 2009, 10:50 PM

T.C Do you remember were the decals came from?


Attached image(s)

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 28 2009, 12:29 AM

Ill help out , I recongnize the logo,
http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/I-Say-Ding-Dong-Decals-Stickers__W0QQ_armrsZ1


I wish I had bought that oil cooler

Posted by: carr914 Dec 28 2009, 06:10 AM

Well, then here is some Mood lighting

Posted by: faux916 Dec 28 2009, 04:45 PM

Thank you!

Posted by: carr914 Jan 5 2010, 06:41 PM

I went by the shop today, as the car came back from the Media Blaster.

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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 5 2010, 09:56 PM

I see the Chick digs it,
You gotta be very happy to see some color. Nice

Posted by: stuttgart46 Jan 6 2010, 09:05 AM

Clean slate.
I can't wait to see it in person.

Posted by: FourBlades Jan 6 2010, 09:47 AM

Hey T.C.

It is looking good! What kind of media did they blast it with and what kind of
primer and paint are you planning to use?

Thanks,

John

Posted by: andys Jan 6 2010, 11:59 AM

TC,

I just posted a question on another thread, then realized you may be able to answer my question. If those are AA flares, would you kindly measure the rear flare from the inside wheel well panel to the inside lip of the flare at the center. I basically need to know if my existing wheel/tire will fit.

Thanks a bunch!

Andys

Posted by: carr914 Jan 6 2010, 12:30 PM

The Flares used on this car were Factory Flares out of my Stash

T.C.

Posted by: pete-stevers Jan 6 2010, 03:33 PM

now get some primer on that chassis....NOW...or i am going to come down and spray it myself...runs and all!!

Posted by: carr914 Jan 27 2010, 06:28 PM

My 2nd Dr Evil Tranny arrived today. This one has a Brand New Billit Intermediate Plate.

T.C.

Posted by: smontanaro Jan 27 2010, 09:19 PM

Dumb question perhaps, but what does a billet intermediate plate do besides add bling to your tranny?

Posted by: kwales Jan 27 2010, 09:56 PM

It's young and tight......

And the shift rod, er rods don't wallow around as much.

And it's a ring and pinion adjust.

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Posted by: mharmon Feb 6 2010, 07:11 PM

TC,

That combo gauge is fantastic - do you happen to know if the kits to build it are still available?

Great thread - thanks for sharing all of the hard work.

Keep it up.

Mike

Posted by: Tonyiz Feb 7 2010, 01:37 AM

WOW!!!!!.....Outstanding job! Enjoyed seeing where you were and how far you've come! I'll have to refer back to this post for inspiration when I try to get mine restored.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 7 2010, 03:17 AM

Mike, Thanks for the compliments.

These gauges were just rebuilt by Mark at Vintage ( he's in the Vendor section), the 250klm Speedo I bought on eBay for $20, The 10,000rpm Tach is a rebuilt 930 and the Combo gauge is custom. I had the faceplate (and backplate) for the Triple in my stash ( ) from years ago. I sent Mark the plates, a 911 Temp/Press gauge and a 914 Gas Gauge. I know Vintage makes a Quad gauge.
I just like the look of the Triple.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 11 2010, 01:46 AM

A Fire Bottle System with 3 Spray Heads



Cause I don't want to see this happen to my car. Sorry Dude

Posted by: carr914 Feb 20 2010, 10:12 AM

No need for you to take an emergency vacation, Pete.

(we need a smiley with a spray gun - we have one with a sawzall & welder)

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 20 2010, 10:22 AM

Its been quite a project, I forgot what color it was and or Is going be ?

(spray gun smiley)

Posted by: carr914 Feb 20 2010, 10:26 AM

Signal Orange

T.C.

Posted by: tradisrad Feb 20 2010, 03:28 PM

Makes me want to cry!

Posted by: BigD9146gt Feb 20 2010, 06:53 PM

nice work TC... makes me want to finish mine even more.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 20 2010, 08:38 PM

Hey stranger... long time.

Posted by: BigD9146gt Feb 21 2010, 10:53 AM

Who, me?


TC, how much does the 10k tach cost to get rebuilt/converted from a early 911 8k tach? And would you possibly have a line on another $20 kilometer speedo?

Posted by: carr914 Feb 21 2010, 11:11 AM

Don, what I started with was a 930 10K Tach that had a Boost gauge at the bottom, so it was rebuilt and I eliminated the boost gauge to make it look like an earlier piece.

I really lucked out on the KLM speedo. I won an eBay auction for some Mega-phones. Through eMails with the seller, he had sold his 914-6 and was selling his stash. I picked up F & R bumpers with perfect top pads for $400 for the pair, the speedo for $20.

T.C.

Before









After

Posted by: campbellcj Feb 21 2010, 12:23 PM

Very nice dash setup! I am getting closer to installing the quad gauge I got from Mark long ago.

I'm curious what the red zone on the KPH speedo is for?

Don - I just had an early 911 tach converted to a 10K dial and circuitboard replaced (so it works with an MSD now without an adapter, and doesn't bounce) - it was $200 and change. The cost will vary depending on the parts and labor your core requires.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Feb 21 2010, 02:15 PM

Compliance with the law ;-)

In Germany at least but I believe through the Euro zone there must be a red mark on the speedo at 50 k/h. It's basically the 'in-city' speed limit at 31 m/h

Posted by: campbellcj Feb 21 2010, 04:16 PM

Cool, thanks Rich! I figured it was some kind of government speed "warning" thing, kinda like our old 55mph crap, but it was so slow it threw me for a loop.

Posted by: JRust Feb 28 2010, 11:40 AM

Damn I gotta say I read through this whole post for the first time. Only after reading your other post about sending some pics to the previous owner. Amazing the job you have done saving this car. Who cares what the previous owner thinks of it. I know plenty of us would not have the chops to take on that resto .

My only problem is after reading your other post. I thought I was going to see a completed car. Now after reading through 13 pages of posts. I'm left blue balled

I can't wait to see it finished. It will be absolutely beautiful.

Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 28 2010, 01:32 PM

funny I was just about to write those same words

Posted by: number6 Feb 28 2010, 07:08 PM

TC, you ruined the car with those flares!

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 28 2010, 08:02 PM

yes, thats what all Eurp kph speedo have. I sold one I bought back from Jeroen's stash to Pete Stevers so he could drive the right speed in Canada.

Posted by: tat2dphreak Feb 28 2010, 08:19 PM

this thread belongs in the sandbox... the pictures contained herein are pornographic

great work, man!

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 28 2010, 08:21 PM

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 1 2010, 06:13 AM

Excellence did a feature a while back on the Dauer 962 - a race car converted to a street car converted to a race car to fit through a loophole in Le Mans rules about 'limited production sports cars.' As a street car, it was required to have the 50 km/h red zone. On a 400 km/h speedo, it was but a teeny dot...

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2010, 09:12 AM

Here are 2 different Dauer dashs. I have a friend that has one of these insane cars.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2010, 04:24 PM

The Original 914-6 Tranny Case to be put in storage in case I ever sell the car (Never gonna happen)

Doesn't everyone need 3 Engines & 3 Trannies per car?

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2010, 04:26 PM

And my engine tin back from the Powder Coaters

Posted by: MDG Mar 1 2010, 04:31 PM

You seem to have 3 or 4 of everything else so why not. How much more to do before we see some color?

Tins look great

Posted by: carr914 Mar 10 2010, 04:53 PM

WaterShields

Posted by: bag5rcg Mar 10 2010, 05:17 PM

Hmmmmmm....I could use one of those transmission endcaps if you have any for sale

Posted by: URY914 Mar 10 2010, 05:19 PM

Sexy Hats!

Posted by: FourBlades Mar 10 2010, 05:52 PM

T.C.

Do you have the GT pop up headlight kit for this car? I could use some pictures
because I want to make my own. I don't want to blow $500+ for what is just a
bunch of cables, springs, and brackets I could make myself. I need at least 2
sets of these things and I may look at making a run of them.

I got the caswell plating kit and power supply lately so I plan to yellow zinc it all.

John

Posted by: carr914 Mar 10 2010, 06:30 PM

Long Gone - I traded most of those trannies to Dr Evil.




No I don't, but it is something in the planning stages. Let me know how you make out.

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 27 2010, 07:32 PM

One of the last pieces of the puzzle, the parts puzzle that is - the GT Headlight raiser kit. I will be attempting to make an Instruction Manual on the Installation.

Next I have to go open up a can of Whup-Ass on the painters, I want my car back

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 27 2010, 10:18 PM

Cool - I am getting closer to tackling this project on my car as well. Hopefully you do yours first so I can follow your instructions

I've been keeping a prioritized to-do list (using Toodledo) and this has been floating around the middle of the list...

Posted by: carr914 Apr 28 2010, 06:10 AM

Another Member and I went in on these kits. We have one for sale as someone backed out on the 3rd set. Anybody interested send me a pm.

T.C.

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Posted by: badm May 6 2010, 06:53 PM

T.C Looks good, the prep work to the body seems to take so long but it will be worth all the trouble when its done. How did you make out with the slots and the piston mounts? Ben.

Posted by: carr914 May 26 2010, 09:04 AM

Got my Custom embroidered carr914/914-6 shirt today.

Now if I could just get my car back. Some color is supposed to go on the car today ( still looking for that spray-gun smilie)

Posted by: carr914 Jun 8 2010, 05:24 PM

I've joked around with the Local Guys about all the excuses the shop that is working on my car has used that it is not done and even Blew Up on them about it.

Well I found out today that Gary had a Heart Attack working on my car yesterday. He will be OK. I talked to him in the hospital today. But he will have to cut out the Krispy Kream Donuts, etc.

I was expecting the car back soon, but this is an excuse I can live with ( Hopefully Gary too).

My engine guy has also had a Heart Attack working on my motor.

Am I a Jinx?

T.C.

Posted by: URY914 Jun 8 2010, 06:07 PM

If it ever gets done, I'm not riding in it. I got a family to think about.

Posted by: Millerwelds Jun 8 2010, 06:08 PM

No......but your car is. I suggest you give it to me to avoid a heart attack. Let me know once you have it finished.

Posted by: campbellcj Jun 8 2010, 06:31 PM

Bummer - I hope he's OK.

Not to be too gloomy, but be sure you're covered in case he doesn't make it after all, so you don't get tangled up in a hellish mess of liens or asset freezes or whatnot.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 13 2010, 03:57 PM

Chris, it will be OK as his son is his partner in the business. In fact, I think he owes me money. Gary is doing better

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 13 2010, 04:00 PM

I think over 300HP in this thing will be enough to give anybody a Heart-Attack

Posted by: Wannabe 914-6 owner Jun 13 2010, 04:37 PM

Are you bribing these guys with lard sandwiches?. Hope they recover quickly and completely, can't wait to see the finished product, however the fun for me an amatuer, is watching the progress. Best of luck

Posted by: carr914 Jul 12 2010, 06:05 PM

Well Gary is recovering nicely and is back at work. He doesn't have his stamina yet and he has to watch the Heat and how long he is at the shop.

I stayed in touch with Gary & his son Jason every week. Unfortunately Jason didn't touch my car in the last month because, "it's Dads job"

I'm glad Gary's feeling better, so I can go back to busting his ass to get my car done.

T.C.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 12 2010, 09:46 PM

maybe he should help out dear ole dad ?

I tell my son i dont have forever anymore.

Glad to hear he is doing well.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 12 2010, 11:21 PM

In defense of Jason, the shop is kinda divided in 2. Gary likes Porsches and Jason is an expert on 60's VW Buses. In the last few years, the Porsche & racecar side has been down, while it seems the Bus business is pretty good. They do help each other and I would rather have Gary working on the car.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 27 2010, 05:27 PM

Finally work has resumed . Gary is feeling better, but I would guess that our Uber Hot Florida Summer limits him.

I had sent him an Angry, but Courteous eMail a week and 1/2 ago. I didn't want to drive 200 Miles to blow-up on him again. He didn't need another Heart Attack & I don't need my 1st. He took it the right way and realized if it was his car, he would want it done too. I was hoping for a Shrink-Coat of Orange on it, but at least some work has been done.

Here are the Brass Oil-lines fitted & the front hole cut.

T.C.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 27 2010, 06:54 PM

I have a feeling I should have done that before painting. I have all the cuts made but... just did everything from GT pictures. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: badm Aug 27 2010, 07:06 PM

T.C
Are you going to use a back pad? if not grind off the tab slots now! and set up the seat belt loops at the same time. Take it from me its a pain in the A$$ to do it after the paint is on. Badm.

Posted by: 1968Cayman Aug 27 2010, 09:19 PM

Huh. Seat pad. So that's what those little bastards are for.

I can't believe I just read through this whole thread and there are NO PICS of the freakin' car in paint! Argggghh!! Don't make me wait here with the thread open until you post them. Don't. 'Cause I will. I have THAT much time . . .

Posted by: carr914 Aug 27 2010, 09:39 PM

No BackPad going in - Good Suggestion. Thanks Ben

Posted by: 396 Aug 28 2010, 12:13 AM

TC,

Looks like the baby is coming along..
Hey on another note, since your selling your motor, what's next 3.6

Posted by: carr914 Aug 28 2010, 05:56 AM

No, a 2.8 RSR Twin-Plug built on an Early Sand-Cast Aluminum case ( about $3K just in case machine work), Factory 2.8 RSR Pistons & Cylinders, Carillo Rods, crazy Cams, PMO 46's. Built by my regular builder ( the 2.7 F/S, 2.5 Twin-Plug, Two 914-4 2.0 race motors)

Should be about 300HP - Will be Dyno'g it in a couple of weeks

T.C.

Posted by: bcheney Aug 28 2010, 07:57 AM

Cool pics TC. Looks like Gary is starting to move long nicely. It's really is going to be a helluva GT. Hang in there and keep the faith...

Posted by: carr914 Aug 28 2010, 08:24 AM

Should be all done before you get back from Vegas

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 28 2010, 09:17 AM

What year?

T.C. Definately do the backpad stuff now.

The belt loops really turn out to be a buttload of work. Seems simple but, definately something you'll want to do now. Belts can be had at reasonable prices from the guy in Canada.





P.S. Little bird said something about your bottom line being in backward.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 28 2010, 09:27 AM

Already got the belts out of Canada

Where did you get the belt loops (attachment)? - 2nd pic

And yeah Jeff pm'd me about the lower line, can't believe I didn't catch that

Posted by: carr914 Oct 27 2010, 08:07 AM

Something's Happening

Posted by: smg914 Oct 27 2010, 08:46 AM

Posted by: gothspeed Oct 27 2010, 10:12 AM

Fantastic !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Oct 27 2010, 04:57 PM

TC, Eric -
Where did you get the firewall seat belt brackets? I have made one from scratch so far, and it took forever to get the bar stock bent correctly. I am concerned that I will not be able to get all four of them to match as well as I would like.

Cant wait to see what has been happening TC.....

Posted by: carr914 Nov 22 2010, 03:08 PM

A couple of shots before it went into the Paint Booth

Posted by: FourBlades Nov 22 2010, 03:23 PM

You have reached the critical point!

John

Posted by: ChicagoPete Nov 22 2010, 06:12 PM

Scott,

Besides fabbing your own...I know that MittelMotor has them available, sometimes they show up on eBay, usually for sale by them.

Peter

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 22 2010, 07:33 PM

Just a note on the rear Minilites. I know you have elected to go with RSR finish and have moved beyond this but it bears noting that Weidman Wheels has made several sets of Minilite 'look' wheels using Superlite wheels which are cheap and available now. Harvey chops them and widens them. Last trip I made to see Harvey he had a set he had made for RUF... Nice period correct look. I will be going with 16X7 front and 16X8.5 wheels in RSR finish that Harvey made for me.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 23 2010, 07:28 AM

Actually , my "RSR" finished 8 & 9" are going on my conversion. For this car I have Superlites with 245/50/15s on the rear & 8" Fuchs with 225/50/15 for the front

T.C.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 28 2010, 05:03 PM

Some more pre-paint pics

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Posted by: carr914 Nov 28 2010, 05:11 PM

And




Finally




Some






Signal Orange

Posted by: abayer1969 Nov 28 2010, 05:16 PM

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Nov 28 2010, 05:22 PM

Looking good !

Posted by: MDG Nov 28 2010, 06:23 PM

That's gotta bring a sigh of relief!

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 28 2010, 07:26 PM

Orange you thankful @ Thanksgiving

Orange you glad you didnt beat em up

Orange you glad you didnt change your mind and go with Yellow

Orange you Happy its paint and not more rust

Orange you glad I live in Washington

Looks Great

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 28 2010, 09:28 PM

Posted by: Ferg Nov 28 2010, 09:37 PM

Most Excellent!

Posted by: silver74insocal Nov 28 2010, 09:59 PM

thats "shakedown street" underneath the 2 nd and 4th pictures TC you ole dead head! i know cuz i had that sticker on the dash of a 72 pontiac..and the europe 72 one on my bong..high school daze

Posted by: Krieger Nov 28 2010, 10:00 PM

Congratulations! Damn thats going to look really good. I'm starting to get a flared front fender fetish. Please post more pictures and enable me!

Posted by: Lou W Nov 28 2010, 11:45 PM

Very Nice Job

Posted by: moparrob Nov 29 2010, 12:05 AM

Eric,

Those harness guides are a great idea. I understand the concerns you had in trying to replicate their design so I came up with my own idea.

You can buy these square U-bolts with a 3 5/8" inner dimension, perfect for my 3 inch belts.



I'm going to weld on some extra thick washers, chop off the excess and send them off to the powder coater. They come in various sizes - I just happened to choose 3/8 inch bolts. You can get 7/16 and 1/2 inch also. These particular ones are Stanley part #N244-996.

Thanks for the inspiration.

Posted by: championgt1 Nov 29 2010, 12:12 AM

Looking good!

Posted by: carr914 Nov 29 2010, 02:57 AM

No if you were here, you could help me put it together

Posted by: bcheney Nov 29 2010, 06:14 AM

Now that's what I'm talkin about!

Posted by: badm Nov 29 2010, 06:32 AM

T.C. Nice to see it with paint. Now comes the fun part! Badm.

Posted by: badm Nov 29 2010, 06:41 AM

Please don't!!!!!!!! There is a reason that soft steel and corse threads are not used on seat belts mounts, do you want to trust your life to something to made to hold a 2x4 down????? Badm.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Nov 29 2010, 07:04 AM

The square U-bolts (3/8" thread, mfg unspecified) shown on the McMaster site list a working (not ultimate) strength of 1000 lbs. Each.

Anything like this will, I suspect, be ultimately limited to the strength of the firewall if that's what the're bolted to. (If they're part of the cage, you're probably using s different technique for the belt guides to start with.)

Back-of-the-envelope - 2000 lb strength, 100 lb torso, 10g impact.

I think 3/8" is too small for my comfort, but 7/16" might be OK. I'd want to see the specs.

The rear axle and leaf spring mounts on my half-ton truck are in the half-inch range and I promise you they see more than 2000 lb loads on a regular basis.

This is not a recommendation, just a suggestion to consider the loads.

Posted by: Hontec Nov 29 2010, 07:20 AM

I agree, I've been building race/ rallye/ dakar cars for many years and I would personally never attach my harness to that firewall, but like I said, that is my humble opinion....... consider a simple 50 kmh impact and the forces involved......you will be scared how much force your bodymass upon impact will generate and what it will do to a flimsy firewall.....
These cars are not structural wonders to start with..........plus they are 35+ years old....

Posted by: ArtechnikA Nov 29 2010, 10:10 AM

Properly, those loops are belt _guide_ loops - not primary attachment points. This allows the belts to be mounted much closer to (or to) the floor. Mounted to the firewall near the floor puts most if that load in shear, while the guide loops pick up only a fraction in tension.

Posted by: badm Nov 29 2010, 10:12 AM

I was less commenting on the firewall, and more to the product he chose to use for his mount, if you install the proper type of mounts in the boxed portion of the firewall as done on the GT's it has quite a large amount of support. Be safe, thats all. Badm.

Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 29 2010, 11:17 AM

Been a while since I checked this thread, man I sure love L20E on a 914!

Posted by: moparrob Nov 29 2010, 05:53 PM

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 29 2010, 08:33 PM

What's that sposs ta mean weiner?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 29 2010, 09:18 PM

uhuh yellows faster ?

Posted by: Travis Neff Nov 29 2010, 09:29 PM

Sweet!!

Posted by: carr914 Nov 30 2010, 05:20 AM

Actually, when the painter sent me the pictures from his cell phone, he asked me to eMail him back to make sure I got them. I said yeah I got the picture, but's what's with the Orange, I told you Green . He called me back in a panic - I guess I shouldn't have done that to someone that had a Heart Attack 6 months ago.

Posted by: Lou W Nov 30 2010, 06:01 AM

Posted by: campbellcj Nov 30 2010, 01:32 PM

Also you MUST use proper backing-plates or large, hardened washers on the other side of the firewall. Check the specs from your harness manufacturer as well as the GCR's of any sanctioning bodies. This is not an area where you want to be experimenting at your own potential peril...

Posted by: carr914 Dec 10 2010, 05:36 AM

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Posted by: championgt1 Dec 10 2010, 08:07 AM

Posted by: bcheney Dec 10 2010, 04:37 PM

I hope it keeps warming up so he can finish that puppy for ya! Looks great!!

Posted by: carr914 Dec 20 2010, 03:06 PM

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Dec 20 2010, 04:26 PM

Hi TC -
I noticed the front trunk floor is uncut. Are you something different for the oil cooler?

Car looks fantastic!

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 20 2010, 04:52 PM

Posted by: MDG Dec 20 2010, 05:05 PM

Sweet!

Posted by: URY914 Dec 20 2010, 05:15 PM

Gettin' closer...

Posted by: badm Dec 20 2010, 06:16 PM

T.C.
Once it is out of the paint shop we will have to crack open a beer to celebrate. Mite have to be a virtual Beer. Badm

Posted by: carr914 Dec 20 2010, 06:25 PM

Good pick-up. I'm not a big fan of the big gaping hole in the pan, so I'm either going to do reverse scallops or a series of round holes for air exit.

Posted by: FourBlades Dec 20 2010, 06:56 PM

Looking good!



Who will finish their car first???

Just a little friendly motivation.

John

Posted by: carr914 Jan 21 2011, 05:29 AM

Posted by: scotty b Jan 21 2011, 05:46 AM

purdy

Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 21 2011, 09:32 AM

What distributor is that, looks fancy...aside from being twin-plug.

Posted by: campbellcj Jan 21 2011, 09:49 AM

JB Racing. I have the same dizzy. Actually my engine was built by them (Mike Bruns).

Posted by: carr914 Jan 21 2011, 10:13 AM

Chris, Mike is one of my Best Friends - Certainly one of the best Engine Builders out there

T.C.

Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 21 2011, 03:24 PM

Very cool, I'll have to check them out...I'm on the fence between options on mine. Just wish I had as nice of a tub as T.C.'s to put my stuff in!!!

Posted by: carr914 Feb 18 2011, 07:01 PM

Did you see what I started with?

Posted by: carr914 Feb 18 2011, 07:05 PM

Posted by: MDG Feb 18 2011, 07:40 PM

It WILL roll again!!! There is a tunnel and a light just came on at the end of it. Congrats.

ps - do all you guys down there each get a turn with Andy's camera

Posted by: carr914 Feb 23 2011, 11:31 AM

Here's a Custom protective plate so the Brass Oil-Lines don't get dinged by rocks in the wheel-well

Posted by: porbmw Feb 26 2011, 03:47 PM

NICE! A great idea!

Posted by: mepstein Feb 26 2011, 04:45 PM

TC, is this a street car or track?

Posted by: db9146 Feb 26 2011, 07:10 PM

T.C.,

Nice build.......going to look great.

Since you mentioned a shield for the oil lines, have you thought about anything to protect the underside of the flares? Are you undercoating the underside of the flares to protect them? Someone mentioned this to me some time back that it was a good idea on flared fenders with no liners.

Going to be beautiful!!!! Again!

Posted by: carr914 Feb 27 2011, 06:18 AM

Probably an A/X car at the most. It is going to be too nice to beat it up at Sebring.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 27 2011, 04:11 PM

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2011, 06:36 PM

Pics courtesy of smg914

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Posted by: mharmon Mar 1 2011, 07:13 PM

That car looks fantastic. What size wheels are those in the rear?

Posted by: bcheney Mar 1 2011, 07:40 PM

Looking good. Maybe I'll stop by tomorrow to see it as well. When do you pick it up? Just trying to figure out how long it will stay unassembled in your garage once you get it home...

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2011, 08:19 PM

15x8s with 245/50/15 Skins

Posted by: carr914 Mar 1 2011, 08:21 PM

Not this weekend, Gary's going to be at SVRA. I'm hoping the following weekend

Posted by: URY914 Mar 1 2011, 09:21 PM

I'm free the next weekend T.C. It will look nice on my trailer.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 22 2011, 01:34 PM

Good News Boys & Girls



After 3 Years, She's coming Home tomorrow !

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Apr 22 2011, 03:19 PM

Posted by: carr914 Apr 22 2011, 06:32 PM

Not sure if I will get any sleep tonight - I feel like a little kid on XMAS Eve

Posted by: iamchappy Apr 22 2011, 06:41 PM

Someday were going to be standing over this enjoying frosty adult beverages together.
Maybe sooner than later i hope.......

Posted by: carr914 Apr 22 2011, 07:21 PM

I hear Ya

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:02 PM

I'm Home

Big Thanks to Stratton MotorSports, Armando, SMG, URY, BCheney, eric shea , badm and many others

Pre-Load

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Apr 23 2011, 06:07 PM

Looks great TC congrats on getting this far. Now the real fun begins.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:14 PM

Loading



Brian saying "sumabitch, T.C.s going to have his car done before me"



URY saying 'T.C. better have some Beer at Home"



Me saying " Let's get this Biotch Home"

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:20 PM

The Way Home

Posted by: 914Sixer Apr 23 2011, 06:22 PM

Whoa, your finally on your way!!!

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:24 PM

At Home Pics

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:26 PM

I remember you saying you were going to help me with the Engine Install, when can I pencil you in

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:38 PM

More at home pics

Posted by: carr914 Apr 23 2011, 06:42 PM

Tucked away for the Night - if I had A/C in the Garage I'd be sleepin out there tonight !

Posted by: bcheney Apr 23 2011, 07:58 PM

Glad to see her home safe and sound. It really has been fun watching this tranformation take place...can't wait to go for a ride...it will soon become a beast with your fresh motor plugged in!! Congrats TC

Posted by: URY914 Apr 23 2011, 08:44 PM

Christmas in April. I think TC was sorta in shock when we got there and saw it. We turned into the parking lot and it just glowed. Whata sight to behold.

Posted by: Lou W Apr 23 2011, 09:21 PM

TC. Absolutley Beautiful Build.

Posted by: OmaPossu Apr 23 2011, 11:11 PM

Wow! Signal orange sure is beautiful colour! Allways loved it.
Good luck with rest of project!

Posted by: Bullethead Apr 24 2011, 12:36 AM

Looking excellent, TC! Attention to detail is it's own reward. That, and watching others drool in envy.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Apr 24 2011, 05:27 AM

I wish I could but I will give this advice, have a sawzall ready for anything that gets in your way . I still remember you cutting my moving dolly with that sawzall to install my engine what a hoot ! You going to have it ready for Petit ?

Posted by: MDG Apr 24 2011, 07:34 AM

Congrats, T.C.

The car looks gorgeous . . and to think how it started out! Absolutely one of the all time great saves!

Posted by: r_towle Apr 24 2011, 07:52 AM

Reading from the beginning, around post 47 when it went into the paint shop...then life changed, the economy changed....what a ride.

Congrats for squeaking by and keeping this project headed in the right direction...
Boy way URY close on his prediction (post 50ish) on when it would come back from the booth....just a year late.

At this point, its kinda pointless to ask because the car will have 30k invested in it by the time your done...but I will ask anyways.

What is the back story on this car and what did you pay for it (and all the parts etc...)

Rich

Posted by: carr914 Apr 24 2011, 09:59 AM

Not Real Sure, but....

I paid $8k, but got another Rust Free car & tons of parts. I sold the 2nd car & some parts, so I paid around $4k for the car

A lot of the Parts I had, then I bought another -6 (#1724) that came with most of the GT Parts. I sold #1724 for close to what I paid for the package and kept all the GT parts, so in a way they were Free.

I did have to buy the Replacement Panels, mostly from Restoration Design when Bill owned it - (he even made me a custom pieces) & Stoddard. Along the way I bought some things from badm & Mikey - probably $3k Total

The Rustoration work & Paint cost me $9k some of it in trade ( a couple of 914 Tubs & 911 Parts)

The most money I have in anything is the 2.8 Twin-Plug

The Back Story on the car - It has very, very low miles (under 17,000), it was originally owned by the owner of Autowerks in Rockford, IL . Then was owned by a Doctor in Rockford, who had 2 914-6s. They must have been left some place where the Passenger side stayed wet as that whole side was gone.

The Dr put it up for sale in Panorama in 1981 with 14,000 Miles - It did not sell at that time, but was later Sold.

In Feb 2000 it was put on eBay with less than 16,000 Miles - the High Bid was $9,999.95, I'm not sure if it Sold on Ebay

In Sept 2002, Brad Mayeur put it and the Dr's 2nd 914-6 ( Totally rusted out - no useable body parts) up for sale in Panorama $11,700

A Real DoucheBag about 45 minutes north of me bought it and drove the car from 914Limited to Florida (I'm surprized the car didn't break in half). He dis-mantled the car, bought a Rust-free 71 -4. He was either going to VIN swap the -6 numbers to the -4 or cut up the -4 to weld the pieces to the -6, which he did not have the talent to do.

In Feb 08, the car was put up for Sale on the Club & Pelican. URY & some others had already seen it and regarded it as a lost cause. bcheney had the guy send him some pictures and alerted me to it. I was at the time restoring a 74 Carrera RS. I went up to see the car, saw it was in sad shape, but also in my mind saw the potential it had. I also knew it had to rescued from the guy that was selling it ( you should have seen some of the Mazda RX7 abortions sitting around his barn). By the way he said I ruined the car when I put the NOS M-471 GT Flares on it.

I bought it, had it shipped directly to Strattons (yesterday was the 1st time it had ever been at my house !) & brought the 71 Tangerine to my house. The DB would never give the Title to the 71 and I sold it cheap) smg and I made 3 trips with his Jeep Cherokee & me in my car with small trailer and then one more trip with my friend John with his truck/trailer & my car/trailer.

I never thought it would take over 3 Years to get it back ( figured 6 months to a year). A lot has changed in the last 3 years, but I'm glad I have #673 and the direction it has taken.

T.C.

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 24 2011, 10:55 AM

Congrats TC! It will be a very special car when all together. Can't wait to see the "after" pics.

Posted by: FourBlades Apr 24 2011, 12:20 PM

I love the wheels, that was a great inspiration for the car.

This will be possibly the best 914-6 GT clone there is with all the NOS parts you
have used and the seriously built motor.

Looking forward to seeing it done. Of course, you will be running the megaphones,
right?

John

Posted by: carr914 Apr 24 2011, 04:43 PM

No Doubt !

Posted by: carr914 Apr 24 2011, 04:51 PM

I'm not sure that Clone is the right word. Certainly it was not Originally a GT, but it is a Real Six (the next Serial # was a GT) and has the Correct Dealer M-471 GT Package, that was just installed much later than Porsche would have planned. There are no records for Dealer M-471 cars. The other Real GT parts just put it over the Top, Also has some parts from an IMSA car (not yours! )

T.C.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 24 2011, 05:16 PM

you do work at a dealer...so you could make a story that it was dealer installed....


Rich

Posted by: trojanhorsepower Apr 24 2011, 06:43 PM

Seems like I read somewhere that any of the original 6's could have been made into a GT i.e. there was nothing special about them from Porsche. You seem to have put all the right stuff on there, so I don't see why that would not be a real GT, just not one made in the 70's. I am sure this line of thought will go no where, upset people for no good reason and resolve nothing, but what the heck. Maybe you could call it a late model GT? It would seem to me that a clone would be an original 4 converted no matter how many NOS parts were used.

Great build by the way and thanks for saving another one. It looks great!

My 2 cents

-Peter

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Apr 24 2011, 06:51 PM

I thought to be a real GT only meant it had all the factory M471 parts on it.

I would think a clone would be a car that used after market parts.

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Apr 24 2011, 06:55 PM

Do you have this thing back together yet Geez!

Posted by: carr914 Apr 24 2011, 07:04 PM

Some people have drawn a line in the sand where they say that a Real GT has to be done by the Factory. However that would leave out a LOT of Period Raced 914-6s. The Original M-471 Dealer package did not include much besides the Flares, longer wheel studs, etc. The Dealer package was made in order to Homologate the GT into International Racing.

The same thing applies to 935s & 962s. Porsche could not keep up with Demand and authorized outside companies to make them. To me they are still are Real 935s & 962s

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Apr 24 2011, 07:10 PM

So what is the big race tank option I have seen in one of our local GTs?

Posted by: FourBlades Apr 24 2011, 09:02 PM

You are right, it is far better than a clone.

For all intents and purposes it is a real 914-6 GT when you think how nearly
all of the others got put together by Porsche dealers or by private owners who
bought the M471 kits.

In any case, it will certainly be one of the finest 914s of any kind out there when
you are done putting it together.

John

Posted by: Gustl Apr 25 2011, 01:42 AM

please don't mix up the term "M471" with "sport kit"

M471 was an option like M285 (chrome bumpers) or M570 (center seat cusion)
you could order it with a new car from April 1971 on, so a M471 optioned car was factory built

what you guys seem to talk about is the "sport kit" (german term) - the factory wrote about 400 kits built to meet the homologation rules
some dealers and racing teams ordered these "sport kit" and built their own race cars; these "sport kits" could contain of various parts


in addition to these things there were "factory werks cars", built by the factory and used by the factory
next step the "factory cars", built by the factory and sold to customers that could afford them

from the MY'71 (very likely from April 71) on there was also the M491 option;
this was a factory built car with full race equipment (this was the succeeder of the "factory car")



@ T.C. - very nice car !!!

Posted by: carr914 Apr 25 2011, 04:27 AM

For those that want a Condensed version of this thread in Pictures, here is a link to Armando's site

http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/other_porsche_9146gt_race_cars_sn9140431724_tcdavis

Posted by: carr914 Apr 25 2011, 04:30 AM

That is the 100 liter Endurance tank, which was put in cars for long races.

While it would be nice to have, the repros are around $5k and that would be about a years worth of gas

Posted by: ellisor3 Apr 25 2011, 06:36 AM

That looks fantastic TC. I certainly can understand 6 months turning into 3 years. Hopefully we can take both of ours for a spin with Joe at some point. I keep telling myself that these cars only need two things: time and money, right??

Posted by: Zimms Apr 25 2011, 09:11 AM

That looks great TC. Will you bring it to the Porsche Coral @ Sebring next year?

Posted by: carr914 May 1 2011, 11:24 AM

The Dashboard is in, I'll put the re-done gauges in later

Posted by: carr914 May 1 2011, 11:27 AM

Holy Spaghetti-O's

Posted by: 396 May 1 2011, 06:30 PM

Keep at it,I see daylight by years end.

Posted by: URY914 May 2 2011, 05:41 PM

One proud dude...

Posted by: URY914 May 2 2011, 05:44 PM

The real deal....

Posted by: URY914 May 2 2011, 05:48 PM

Sweet trailer (when all the lug nuts stay on it) .....

Posted by: URY914 May 2 2011, 05:54 PM

My trailer has had 9 different 914s on it.....and 1 911. But this one was the nicest by far.

Posted by: bcheney May 18 2011, 07:54 PM

Totally agree that this is the nicest 914/6...Our 89 911 Targa looked pretty damn cool on its trip to the Porshce Parade in Charlotte though


Attached image(s)

Posted by: sixnotfour May 18 2011, 08:10 PM

ya whatever "914world" assdrager ,
drop your motor and hit the road.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 19 2011, 08:14 AM

Wow T.C. that is looking simply amazing!

Posted by: sgh May 19 2011, 02:17 PM

Paul, dumb question, but how do you know the balsa reinforced decklids are the real deal? Are there tell tale signs? How about the flares too? How do you tell the repops from Auto Atlanta and the factory items?

Posted by: mepstein May 19 2011, 02:32 PM

With the metal flares, you can tell the difference before they're installed. Once they are under paint and bodywork, they look the same. - Except maybe to a very trained eye.

Posted by: carr914 May 19 2011, 02:41 PM

Metal Flares are easy to tell the difference - before & after Paint. The Repro are a heavier gauge metal ( which is not a bad thing). I have been fooled before by an installed set as the metal is so thin, it flexes like a F/G Flare

The Lids you can tell by the dis-coloration of the Resin (or Termites )

Posted by: gms May 21 2011, 11:00 PM

The rear lid is a repro GT for sure, lets see pix of the inside of the front

Posted by: carr914 May 23 2011, 07:17 AM

Both my Lids are repros, but early ones and made right

Posted by: gms May 23 2011, 07:19 AM

they do look nice , probably would use these instead of OEM because OEMs are soooo fragile

Posted by: carr914 May 28 2011, 06:30 PM

Progress (but it's Hot as Hell) - the Wiring Harness is re-installled



and Rear Bumper



I'll have the front end off tomorrow to install my SwayBar/A-Arm set-up

Posted by: rfuerst911sc May 29 2011, 05:28 AM

Looks great TC . Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik May 29 2011, 07:00 AM

Mr. TC,

Beautiful project, your workmanship is outstanding.

I don't know you, but I want to grow up to be a 914-addict like you.

Tom

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 05:18 AM

Rick, you'll these, I know I do

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 05:28 AM

I've got a Good News/Bad News situation - When I brought my car back from the shop in Orlando & put it on the Lift, I found out he had not put the S/C Turbo front suspension ( Aluminum Carrier, Underbody SwayBar & special lower A-Arms) pieces on and instead put the original pieces ( with new Torsion Bars, Custom Bushings, etc) on. It took a couple of weeks for him the find the Turbo parts and I was going to re-do the suspension yesterday. However, the expensive brass bushings have to be pressed-on and I think I would tear them up trying to get them off. They were $$, I don't really want to buy another set, so I'm going to sell the Turbo stuff and find a good thru-body SwayBar to put in my car and keep the existing suspension as-is.

Posted by: jim dorociak Jun 5 2011, 10:14 AM

That under body sway bar was not as useful as a thru the body sway bar anyway, so you really did not loose that much. I would change the carrier out to the aluminum one as it is significantly lighter than the metal carrier. When I used the Turbo arms on my car, I cut off the sway bar mount and welded on the U tab to go with a thru the body sway bar. Looks great, and when they are at the stage yours is everything you put back on has significance and is one step closer to completion. Jim

Posted by: racerbvd Jun 5 2011, 02:46 PM

I need to grow my white goat back out and we can do a side by side with my Green GT Clone (a real clone, not based on a real "Six") when I get it back together..

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 03:43 PM

Yeah, we could be Twin Brothers from a different Mother

Posted by: URY914 Jun 5 2011, 03:46 PM

Twin dudes chasin' tail in clones.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 03:47 PM

Rubber Install F & R

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 03:50 PM

Front Turbo Set-Up For Sale - $500 & Shipping

Posted by: carr914 Jun 5 2011, 03:54 PM

Emblem Time - Wish I could have used the Porsche VW 914-6 NOS Emblem ( It's in the Classifieds)

Posted by: racerbvd Jun 5 2011, 04:51 PM

Yes sir....





Like this one Phil gave me for my birthday years ago...


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Posted by: carr914 Jul 30 2011, 04:27 PM

Sorry, it's been a while

It's been too Hot and no A/C in garage to assemble parts

and I've been buying/selling a lot of Porsche/ BMW Cars Parts

Here is the V-Brace RollBar. I have the front Down-Bars & Roof CrossBar FS in case anybody bought McMarks Bar and wants exitision

Posted by: JMKnight Aug 16 2011, 12:15 PM

Just looking at all that work makes me want to take a nap !!

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Aug 16 2011, 02:25 PM

That looks so purty

Posted by: AZ914 Aug 16 2011, 03:25 PM

Looks great TC!

Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2011, 05:16 AM

Posted by: FourBlades Sep 9 2011, 05:59 AM

Three flared teeners...

Words fail me...

Thank God for emoticons...

John

Posted by: BajaXJ92 Sep 9 2011, 06:31 AM

I see the yellow car hasn't been picked up yet....

....sell to the highest bidder?

Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2011, 06:53 AM

The Yellow car was picked up later in the afternoon after the picture was taken

Posted by: BajaXJ92 Sep 9 2011, 06:59 AM

Heartbreaking, I really wanted it too. I might end up buying the wrecked '71 back from the insurance company. If you hear of any good flared rollers similar to the yellow car, please let me know!

Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 9 2011, 02:08 PM

Where's the envy smiley!



Quite the fleet of flared 914's!

Posted by: AgPete139 Sep 12 2011, 01:55 PM

I see your build thread and it motivates me to finish mine. I gotta get back on the ball. Even though life has just been crazy busy, I must finish it.

It's just a daunting undertaking...

I like your meticulous work and attention to detail. I look forward to more pictures...

Posted by: Rod Nov 5 2011, 03:43 PM

What a really enjoyable hour or so I've had reading through this thread. Thanks TC! Car's looking great - I can't believe how much rust there was and how it's looking now

How's it coming on?

Posted by: carr914 Nov 5 2011, 03:54 PM

Rod, not a lot of progress lately - It's Brutal Hot here in the Summer ( I'm getting A/C for the garage before next summer). Plus I was putting in long hours at my last job, (I left that job last month and just got a MUCH better one yesterday). I've been working on the Blue Steel-Top ( good practice for the GT ) which I should have done in a few weeks.

Then I will really get cranking on the GT ( you can see I have 99% of the Parts)

Posted by: MDG Nov 5 2011, 04:39 PM

Congrats on the cars AND the new job. Can't wait to see more of that Signal Orange beauty.

Posted by: Rod Nov 5 2011, 04:46 PM

Cheers for the reply TC and yes, congratulations on the new job!!

Posted by: 6freak Feb 18 2012, 09:10 PM

[quote name='carr914' date='Mar 1 2010, 02:24 PM' post='1280788']
The Original 914-6 Tranny Case to be put in storage in case I ever sell the car (Never gonna happen)

.............

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 4 2012, 01:33 PM

Any deals in the works ?

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 31 2012, 03:20 PM

Posted by: carr914 Apr 9 2012, 01:46 PM

As a matter of fact, yes. I have a legitimate offer that I'm thinking about - the car would be staying in the United States, just a long, long way from me.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 11 2012, 12:39 PM

Sale Pending

I'm both Sad (that it is going) & Relieved ( I just lost interest - 3 1/2 Years at a Body Shop does that to me, same thing as my Carrera RS)

Posted by: stuttgart46 Apr 11 2012, 12:44 PM

So now what? You know that you'll have some sort of project within a month.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 18 2012, 05:52 PM

Got the Deposit Check - the Sale is going to Happen - it's staying in the US (kinda)

Posted by: URY914 Apr 18 2012, 05:55 PM

Kinda?

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Apr 18 2012, 06:09 PM

Going to an island ?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 18 2012, 07:29 PM

Yes

Posted by: URY914 Apr 18 2012, 07:51 PM

Long Island?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 06:41 AM

No

Posted by: mepstein Apr 19 2012, 06:49 AM

Key West?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 08:27 AM

We don't call them Islands down here.

And No

Posted by: Jon Fernandes Apr 19 2012, 10:40 AM

Hawaii?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 11:18 AM

Bingo, we have Winner

Posted by: stuttgart46 Apr 19 2012, 11:19 AM

Puerto Rico?
This is fun. I love a good mystery.
What are you going to buy with all that scratch?

Posted by: Jon Fernandes Apr 19 2012, 11:40 AM

What do I win?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 01:51 PM

Maybe the New Owner will get you Lei'd

Posted by: rktmn247 Apr 19 2012, 03:40 PM

Is the new owner a member here? Which island? Maybe I'll see it on the road some day!

Posted by: shoguneagle Apr 19 2012, 04:21 PM

Another very good reason to visit the Hawaiian Islands!!!! congratulations and best of everything.

Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 06:42 PM

I don't think so, even though he knows of the Site - He has some other Cool Cars.

I've been out there ( in the 80's ) & visited every Island , but don't which is which

The car will be completed in the Western US before it goes Aloha

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 02:19 PM

Suprise,,, In Washington State............
currently at the body shop ?????

Posted by: carr914 Dec 2 2012, 04:19 PM

The Body & Paint were finished when I shipped it. Bernie is building a Motor & completing assembly

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 05:02 PM

Well, I guess it depends on your standards, cutting and welding have been done..

Posted by: carr914 Dec 2 2012, 05:51 PM

I haven't talked to the Buyer in a while, so I don't know what he has done. I know that he was going the race car route.

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 06:34 PM

I will see it tomorrow and let you know...

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 3 2012, 07:07 PM

Full GT upgrades,
X brace top
GT roll bar
seat belt reinforcements
windshield A pillar reinforcement
mechanical headlight raisers
sway bar reinforcements
distributor access hole
relay board relocated

Some chassis tweeking

To do list
Tweek rear flairs to fit wheels and tires
fix door gaps right side
straighten out some body work
Repaint

Definately going to the next level

Posted by: FourBlades Dec 3 2012, 07:17 PM

Ha Ha I told you my IMSA car would be done first.

Now if I could just find that motivation that I left somewhere near the beer fridge...

John

Posted by: 396 Dec 3 2012, 07:51 PM

Wow...more tweaking / mods...can't wait to see some pictures

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 3 2012, 08:16 PM

I wouldnt take that bet, there is quite an army working on this GT.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 3 2012, 10:21 PM

Not sure of Full GT Upgrades? It had most everything
X-Top is Cool
He didn't want my Cage (V-Brace)
Needed Belt attachments - it came with REPA Belts
Came with A-Pillar pieces
Came with the Mechanical Headlight raiser - Mikey & I bought a few from Mittle before the Group Buy
the Car ( like most -6s, didn't have Sway Bars & I was going to do something different)
I didn't have the nerve to cut the access hole ( even though I've done it a bunch of times)
Relay Board relocating pieces were there
Chassis Tweeks? It had Chassis reinforcement (Factory, Tangerine & Engman), New Bilsteins, Mono-Balls, Spherical Bearings, Big Springs & New bigger Torsion Bars.

Must be putting much bigger wheels & Tires

Straighten out Body Work & Repaint? Oh well, everyone has to make their car their own.

The Buyer seemed like a Cool Guy & had Deep Pockets.

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 4 2012, 05:49 AM

TC, Remeber GT's are kinda a crap shoot, some had it all most didnt, just reporting whats been welded onto a freshly painted tub, I forgot they beefed up the motor mount too.

Tweeks, I meant it needed some mechanical force to square it up.

Tires and wheels will be here soon , I was told by the body shop.

Ill take some pics next time.

Posted by: stuttgart46 Dec 4 2012, 07:34 AM

If he's going the race car route and taking the car to Hawaii how is that going to work out? Do they have a track out there or is the car going to be staying on the west coast?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 4 2012, 07:45 AM

Chad, while the new Owner lives in Hawaii ( & not on the Big Island), it was my understanding that he was going to keep the car in California with some of his other cars.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 4 2012, 07:52 AM

Amazing; that car was very very nice as it was. Looking forward to seeing the pictures of the changes.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 4 2012, 08:18 AM

But not sure if I want to see it, might get Seller's Remorse

Posted by: moondoggy Dec 18 2012, 11:25 PM

I'm new to this site. I thinking of purchasing a 71 looks stock from a private
dealership. Looks like a bottle of nos between the seats. I read one comment that the 1971 914 is nothing more than a VW that robs the Porsche name only! Not good news. However I love the looks of the car. I like to drop a 6 cylinder in her (Porsche only) but I don't know which motor would be good without major modification in drive-train? What do you recommend? Who do you recommend as far as where to buy such a motor?

John
Granada Hills, Ca
jkroells@msn.com

Posted by: moondoggy Dec 18 2012, 11:26 PM

I'm new to this site. I thinking of purchasing a 71 looks stock from a private
dealership. Looks like a bottle of nos between the seats. I read one comment that the 1971 914 is nothing more than a VW that robs the Porsche name only! Not good news. However I love the looks of the car. I like to drop a 6 cylinder in her (Porsche only) but I don't know which motor would be good without major modification in drive-train? What do you recommend? Who do you recommend as far as where to buy such a motor?

John
Granada Hills, Ca
jkroells@msn.com

Posted by: carr914 Dec 18 2012, 11:32 PM

You can stick any air-cooled 6 Cylinder 911 Motor in without drivetrain Mods. However I believe 3.6s need engine bay Mods (Sir Andy can address that). And when you go above certain HP, the 901 Tranny won't like it - so a switch to a 915 will be necessary.

As far as what size motor - how much do you want to spend & how fast do you want you want to go.

There are a Ton of Threads relating to 6 Cylinder Conversions on this Forum. This Thread & Car was already a 914-6

Posted by: carr914 Dec 18 2012, 11:33 PM

And

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 4 2013, 04:26 PM

A couple of update photos, Next flair work to fit TB's.


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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 4 2013, 08:07 PM

TC did you have the front calipers ? or is it a new addition.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2013, 09:18 PM

I gave him 911S Calipers redone by PMB

Posted by: jdlmodelt Jan 4 2013, 09:28 PM

Holly Crap! You aren't done yet!? Beautiful work!

Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2013, 09:35 PM

It's moved on to another guy who is going the race car route (last time he told Lufthansia GT Replica)

Posted by: carr914 Jan 19 2013, 09:50 PM

The new owner sent me some update pics today. He has decided not to make it a Lufthansa Race Car clone. Part of the reason for repaint is he went with 9" wheels and they had to pull the flares out, filled in the Original Antenna Hole (?), Cut-out on front hood for a thru gas filler, cut-out in the interior to get to the Fan, crinkle finish on the sail panels & roof, etc.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 19 2013, 10:51 PM

ya, that paint job was bubble luscious.....

Posted by: carr914 Jan 19 2013, 10:56 PM

What Paint Job, the one my guy put on? It was good, ask URY or bcheney. I found one small flaw, but nothing that worried me

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 19 2013, 10:58 PM

time marches on.....glad you talked to the buyer

Posted by: infraredcalvin Jan 21 2013, 10:27 PM

This is such a heartbreaking thread, I knew the car was sold, but never went through this entire thread before. Glad you have a few other p-car distractions.

I actually considered (briefly) selling my turbo and my 914 (my 1st car) to buy this as I love the car and what you put into it, ultimately I realized couldn't bear to part with either.

Posted by: John1180 Feb 27 2013, 10:28 AM

After looking through this thread, I just realized I bought the 8" minilites you had on the car for my ST project! Sorry it had to change owners, it was a great project!

Posted by: carr914 Feb 27 2013, 11:44 AM

Cool, Glad they went to a Good Home - Those size Tires are impossible to get now

I hope you got the Special Lug Nuts that are Unique to the Wheels

Posted by: chads74 Feb 27 2013, 03:23 PM

I was hoping you would still have it, I am moving out there in a couple months and was excited to get to see it. Oh well I am still excited to move where there are a few more teener lovers in the area.

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 27 2013, 03:24 PM

I told you the IMSA car will be done first.

John

Posted by: John1180 Feb 28 2013, 11:51 AM

Yes, got the lugs! I wish I could get some 215/50/15's for the front, don't know what to do there. I love the 245's, they're so faaat! Where did you get the glass hood and decklid? I'm thinking of a 914 project. A friend has a good one sitting in his yard.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 28 2013, 01:20 PM

The Hoods came with another GT Project that I bought & I transfered the Parts to this car

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 28 2013, 03:11 PM

Nope ...

Some things are easier, for example removing the torsion bars for the rear trunk lid will give you some extra space for the intake elbow and removing the (not needed anymore) relay board gives you extra room for other stuff on that side.

But basically, you can stuff a 3.6L in there without any mods or cutting.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 25 2013, 09:25 AM

Why no more progress pics ?? magazine deal in work...

Posted by: carr914 Mar 25 2013, 10:44 AM

Because the New Owner is Not a Member here.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 25 2013, 10:47 AM

I meant, no more can be taken because it will be in a magazine.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 21 2018, 07:45 PM

if you are a PCA Member, this car is in the most current Panorama. Todd really had some top-notch people finish it off!

Posted by: JmuRiz Jun 21 2018, 07:57 PM

Looking at it now...WOW is that a cool car!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 21 2018, 08:22 PM

That was a Good Day!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 21 2018, 08:34 PM

I still have these if someone wants to buy them

Posted by: carr914 Oct 28 2021, 05:14 AM

#673 is being Restored again for the 3rd time!

Posted by: Shivers Oct 28 2021, 08:11 AM

They got 12 years out of it. Was it crashed?

Posted by: carr914 Oct 28 2021, 11:34 AM

I lost track of it until I saw a Post on Facebook by Kent Brosseau that looked familiar. I sent him a message and sure enough it was 673

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 29 2021, 01:39 PM

Had to go back to the bones....