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Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 01:37 PM

here is the link of the car and

I've just seen the car in person , not driven it. but it is 1500 $

everything looked ok for the price . execpt the seller says it had the front clip professional replace before he bought the car . Is this a Huge deal ? Seller says that title is clean ? He says car does run and is driveable

other than that , 4 th gear grinds he says , i inspected for rust , battery tray is not bad

right rear of the car seems ok.

can you give me any direction on this , front clip is replaced

issue ?



72 914 runs, 4th gear grinds, primer black, new shocks, Alpine stereo w/infiniti spkrs, monster cables, and 600 watt amp. Manuals and many extra parts,
Must sell ASAP $1500. OBO




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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 2 2009, 01:47 PM

can't beat 1500 for a 914 driver. Don't plan on restoring it though. A front clip replacement is quite a major collision repair and I have NEVER seen one done perfectly.

Posted by: kconway Feb 2 2009, 01:53 PM

Not sure about this one but...
There is a 914 on 10th between El Camino and Live Oak in Arcadia (2829 10th Ave). Its been siting for a long time. I've been meaning to stop and ring the bell to see if they wanted to sell but just haven't had the time. Looks to have 5 lug conversion w/Fuchs and fiberglass bumpers. Looks to be in your neighborhood so might be worth a stop to check, who knows?

EDIT* Nahh, link doesn't take you to the address. Punch it in and use the streetview to get an idea.

Here on Googlemaps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=s&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk-gm&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=google%20maps
Kev

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 01:59 PM

can't beat 1500 for a 914 driver. Don't plan on restoring it though. A front clip replacement is quite a major collision repair and I have NEVER seen one done perfectly.


72 914 runs, 4th gear grinds, primer black, new shocks, Alpine stereo w/infiniti spkrs, monster cables, and 600 watt amp. Manuals and many extra parts,
Must sell ASAP $1500. OBO
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Hi, thanks for the advise , I plan on putting alot of miles on the car so yes it's gonna be a driver .

Is a front clip replacement going to affect the car's handling , structure integrety , and or is it

just a looks and gap's kind of a thing.

Because I'd noticed the hood gaps are not good !

It is primer , Would i be wasting money on getting it a paint job too. ?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 02:01 PM

I'll try to check out the car , thanks for the advise and pointing me twards a 914

Posted by: JRust Feb 2 2009, 02:37 PM

I'd keep looking! Front clip replacement can be okay but for a crappy driver probably. I would keep looking for something in better shape. I wouldn't pay more than $700 for a car like that. Unless it had a drivetrain in excellent shape & was a 2.0 . Always better off finding something a little further along. I'd hate to pay to paint a car like that.

Not to be to hard on that car imparticlar. For your 1st 914 I'd start off with a much better car. They can be found in the $1500 range in better shape

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2009, 02:49 PM

Yes and yes ...


The *only* way to do this right is to put the car on a celette bench and weld in the new clip on the bench.

A few bodyshops have a celette bench but there's only one place on the whole west coast who rents the fixtures for the 914 and they're expensive.

If the front clip wasn't done right, at best the car will never align quite right, at worst ...


I would pass.
Andy

PS:

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 02:51 PM

The car is a 1.7 and the drive train is far from excellent shape.

I've seen other 914's that were pretty nice in the 5-6k range . is that about normal ,

one was a 1-8 the other a 2-0

are there cars in between , new front clip car and 5-6 k cars ?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 02:53 PM

thanks andy , i'm getting alot of good info and yours is very helpful

Posted by: jsayre914 Feb 2 2009, 02:56 PM

I say go for it



you can always get a nicer one later

Posted by: rjames Feb 2 2009, 03:16 PM

Did you pull the rockers panels too?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 03:20 PM

I did not , but will be sure to inspect that area in the future.

thanks

Posted by: ericread Feb 2 2009, 03:34 PM

The economy is bad and getting worse. So if you have the ability to be patient, you might just find a really good deal in the next few months.

Time and time again we have seeen where a little patience and saying "no" to a deal works out for the best soon after.

Eric

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 03:37 PM

Yeh i hear yah eric. , I'm in danger at my job myself . so i think i'm going to re think any new auto purchase.

my toyota tacoma , that's never broken down , w/ 248 k miles , is good for now .

Posted by: vesnyder Feb 2 2009, 06:30 PM

I've had my 914 for several years now and have recently completed my restoration. My front clip has been replaced and I have had no issues at all. Biggest problem I anticipate is when I try to sell! Paid about the same and current have about $5k+ into it! Want to Autocross this Summer - that may expose some structural integrity isssues?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 2 2009, 07:17 PM

thanks vance, did you do the clip at a body shop , yourself. how much does that kind of repair cost. ???

and did you really invest , 5k in your 914 , how much of that was paint job / rust related , and power train ?

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2009, 08:10 PM

I'm at over $40k and counting ...
Andy

Posted by: boxstr Feb 2 2009, 09:52 PM

Sam, I would wait, keep looking and learning about what you will get for your money. $1500 theses days gets you a good parts car. $2500 gets you a driver/fixer, $3500 gets you a good driver, needs paint and interior work,$4500 get s you a nice driver needs paint or interior work,$5500 gets you a very nice driver with a few extras, and so it goes.
As always, go and look at the car, or contact someone here to look at it for you, if it is to far away.
You will be much happier in the end.
CCLINCAMPSELL

Posted by: ericread Feb 2 2009, 09:59 PM

The numbers look right to me. BTW, I've been meaning to ask, what's with the code (i.e. CCLINCAMPSELL) with every post?

Posted by: championgt1 Feb 2 2009, 10:19 PM

Keep looking. Don't forget to check the classifieds here. There are alot of good cars that come up.

Posted by: boxstr Feb 2 2009, 11:22 PM

CCLIN just a way to sign out.

Posted by: MikeSpraggi Feb 2 2009, 11:48 PM

I bought my /6 knowing that the front clip had been replaced sometime in the late '70's. Look it over and couldn't really tell it was replaced until the PO pointed out the seam. Paid $9750 for it (it just had a $10k engine rebuild ... with receipts). Had a 4 wheel alignment done without any issues and since have run numerous PCA DE's ... running it hard. Of course checking for stress cracks in the usual places as well as the front clip seam. No major problems yet. So in short, you can get a decent driving car even though the clip has been replaced, but I suspect it's more of an exception than the rule. If the car is worth $1500 to you, than purchase it and enjoy it ... but above all, make sure it is safe!!

Posted by: JRust Feb 3 2009, 12:25 AM

Hey Sam,
Look around. There are plenty that will come up for sale. You should be able to find a decent driver for 3k. Not a perfect car 4 that but a very solid one. Much better than the one showed above. Just keep your eye on Craigslist. You'll find one quick

Posted by: oldschool Feb 3 2009, 01:02 AM

Sam I come from Monrovia and my son said that there is a nice 914 by grand and foothill check that one out also its Kelly green.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 3 2009, 06:21 AM

I would suggest if you want to purchase the car, have someone from this board or 914club go with you and inspect. Unless you are familiar with these cars you might not notice something glaring at you.

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 3 2009, 02:53 PM

40 and counting , your scare' ing me , i'm trying to get my 914 together for the same price or less as i payed for my truck . 11 k

Is that even possible . ?


What setup , do you have for 40 k . is it a six or a 4 ?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 3 2009, 02:59 PM

all those estimate's sound right on , I'm not sure what direction i should go in
, i'll be using the car for freeway commute only , and will most likely want to replace the motor only.
so i can get the most reliable setup . what motor would you recommend , and does it matter what car i buy , if i'm going to switch the engine . as far as it being a 2 lit, 1-8 or 1-7

1-7 1-8 2-0 , fuel inj. or carb's . if i want to not drive the car hard at all . just have a reliable free way cruiser . ?

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 3 2009, 03:05 PM

Hi , I've seen the kelly green car . It is 10k. it says and appears to be fully restored to stock . 2liter fi. very nice paint job. new tire's , very good interior . But That 's a little more than i want to spend . I haven't seen the car for a while , someone may have bought it.

I like'd it but i'm going to be putting to many miles on the car to get one that nice.

I looked at a 73 1-8. that was really nice in sfvalley . it was 6 k . like a year ago.

I'll keep you posted if i see anything around the neighborhood

Posted by: 9146986 Feb 3 2009, 03:23 PM

Most of the time you get what you pay for. There will always be steals and deals (although getting more rare). From my experience, the less you pay on the front end, the more you pay in the long run. Get the best, most solid car you can afford. If I was paying someone to find a car, serious accident history would be on the NO column.

Posted by: vesnyder Feb 3 2009, 06:25 PM

I drove it for about a year for the $1,500 car. Then invested about a grand on the paint. Invested another grand on the interior and suspension. Over the last year I rebuilt the motor for about $2k+. That's $5,500 if my math is correct, but never been a strong point of mine. Could get $4k if I was lucky. Not a bad investment in this economy - would be worth about $3k if I put it in the market. This car is a hell of a lot more fun!

Posted by: LarryR Feb 3 2009, 08:48 PM

I would rather find a dead in the water straight car then one that has been busted. Its always cheaper to make one run right then to try to straighten out the body ... by a long shot.

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 3 2009, 10:05 PM

Yeah me too...over two resto's.... couldnt sell it for 25k if I wanted to in this economy

But It was 60 degree's yesterday and after a nice run around the block

I feel better!

Posted by: dlo914 Feb 4 2009, 02:50 AM

Make sure to have a spare car you can also use as a daily driver.

Posted by: mudfoot76 Feb 4 2009, 07:56 AM

(especially the part in red)

Basketcase cars are exactly that - and you never know what else might be lurking.

As others have said, better to get a good tub with a bad motor than a runner that has been cobbled together.

Posted by: sam quartermain Feb 4 2009, 01:42 PM

I've seen lots of super solid cars , tubs and motors for between 5.500 , 10k but i'm going to try to go look at this car it's close to my area for ?

73 porsche 914 new weber carbs 911 rims and brakes....

The add is very vague which concerns me , seller is asking for 6900 $

So i'm not sure what to expect when i actually see the car but i'm not sure if 7k is my exact budget either. unless it's really a nice nice car and setup . not all cut up i'm won't even consider it really ?

What do you think, And can you tell if it's flared fenders or not , i'm not really wanting flares. either ?????????????

and how do i get everyone to comment on this car . Do i have to post an new thread or will people get it from this ?



pict's would not add here is link :


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1019230718.html

Posted by: SLITS Feb 5 2009, 08:04 AM

Not flared

Repaint - looks like a nice job in the pics

Mirrors not OE for a 914

LE Replica front spoiler

"Italian" front lenses

Euro yellow fog light lenses

Euro tail light lenses

Can't tell how 5 lug conversionwas done

That's about all you can tell from the pictures .................