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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 07:43 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-914-Targa-Classic-Vintage-Rare-Collector-PRICED-TO-SELL_W0QQitemZ120371306769QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item120371306769&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308


This is *not* a '71 body! And there's no VIN tag on the A-Pillar ...
Andy

Posted by: r_towle Feb 7 2009, 07:48 PM

looks like a 73/73...not sure based upon the front trunk.
Did he post a vin number.

Rich

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 07:50 PM

Yes, i meant '73, typo ...
Andy

Posted by: mikez Feb 7 2009, 07:56 PM

Hmmmm, dunno how it got by the automated ebay thingy. They pretty much require a VIN to be posted.

Posted by: LarryR Feb 7 2009, 07:58 PM

I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff.

I am guessing this could very well be since its also originally a silver car that is now red. Sure not worth the almost 7k he is asking IMO.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 08:08 PM

Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ...

And then there's the movable passenger seat ...

And a functional center console (wiring isn't in the car until '73) ...

And the sidevents on the dash ...

And the tar mat in the engine bay ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 08:11 PM

Oh, and the VIN tag on the headlight bucket is missing too!

Andy

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Feb 7 2009, 08:19 PM

I am Andy- bought the brace (in 2 pieces) for the front of my 70. Hard part is going to be getting it to fit over the oil cooler. I like to "hot rod" w/ factory parts

Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 7 2009, 08:25 PM

Ya know, one of the things that pisses me off the most, is people who represent something that is TOTALLY BOGUS. This car is an example, from a guy who has a 100% rating? Screws the rest of us who are honest. There is nothing correct about this 914! In fact, I've notified eBay about this car. And, I emailed th seller.

I'll bet it's a "clipped" 914.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 08:29 PM

Actually, it's silver front to rear. I'm guessing it's a "rebody" ...

Andy

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM

But doesn't the 912 manual automaticly change it into a 71?

Then you click your heels three times and say: "There's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay..."

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2009, 09:11 PM

I emailed the guy, here's his response:

Well, that settles it then! Or not ...
Andy

Posted by: johnnie5 Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM

And the silver dot gauges...150 mph speedo...

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Feb 7 2009, 09:41 PM

My early 74 has silver dot's. I smell a Rat.

Posted by: orange914 Feb 7 2009, 09:43 PM

ain't nothin' going to get by this crew.

Posted by: 914 Feb 7 2009, 10:16 PM

I just looked at it on Ebay,and its a "Dog" Stay away from it or it will bite you...
914

Posted by: TC 914-8 Feb 8 2009, 12:44 AM

Did anyone notice the tach. It has left and right turn signial indicator lights, I thought that was a 911 thing ???

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Feb 8 2009, 12:51 AM

early 914's too.

Posted by: r_towle Feb 8 2009, 09:20 AM

Lets say for instance that at some point in time...it was re-titled with the wrong year....just due to someone mistyping.

The VIN tag is on the inner fender behind the headlight bucket.
The VIN is also stamped on the top of the inner fender.
There may be a VIN behind the windshield...I cant see

Its a car with a VIN...how hard is it to get the registry to see that the number and the year are mismatched...and get it fixed?

Rich

Posted by: LvSteveH Feb 8 2009, 10:43 AM

He may not want to give the VIN out because it's a non-porsche, state issued VIN. That secondary blue and silver tag rivited to the inner fender next to where the stock VIN should be means the DMV has gotten involved somewhere.

That tag could also contain a proper porsche VIN, it just wouldn't be the one the car was born with given the late chassis. It's one of those situations where it may be technically legal because they went through the DMV, but in either case it's less than ideal.

I had a 914 with title issues a few years ago and convincing the DMV there was a problem in the first place was the hardest part. I ultimately got it fixed and the car was returned to the VIN it was born with, but it was an ordeal. It also ended up with the DMV issued vin plates.


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Posted by: r_towle Feb 8 2009, 11:34 AM

I did not see that...
I saw the other two in one of the pics, but not the riveted tag.

Yup, I agree then, its a clipped car with a 73 front end welded to the original older rear end.

That would make the re-vin numbering past muster with the registry cops.

RIch

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 8 2009, 11:41 AM

You're all wrong. It's a 912.

Posted by: seanery Feb 8 2009, 12:15 PM

It's a very rare 913 prototype!

Posted by: tradisrad Feb 8 2009, 02:07 PM

the seller also claims that the rims are original Porsche rims. I think they are fake Fuchs as the lug bolts seem to be recessed deeper into the rim than the OEM rims. Also the seats are covered and undoubtedly torn under the covers.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 8 2009, 03:37 PM

I don't think it was clipped. The whole car is silver underneath that red bomb paint job (jeez, do you think they could get any more overspray).

I think it was probably a theft recovery, hence the Blue&Silver tag. The mistake was made when IDing it and it was re-titled a 71, even though in reality it is a 73.
There should be an identical Blue&Silver tag in the door jam.

And the dipshit dealer that is selling it doesn't know the difference between OEM and replica. I suppose you could buy with PayPal and nail him later with the PayPal protection plan

And I think those are somebodies custom reupholstered seats

The whole car makes me wanna

T.C.

Posted by: underthetire Feb 8 2009, 05:27 PM

My guess, vin#'s were switched. My brother worked for a car inspection company in Texas. The DMV will allow you to clear a salvage title. He saw A LOT of these kinda cars there.

If you buy a car from Texas be warned.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Feb 9 2009, 12:27 AM

I wish I had you guys around when I bought my first 914. It was tagged as a '72 but was really a '75 and a pile O poop. I lost over 6k on that one but it did lead me to the one I have now.
I guess you have to look on the brighter side with that stuff

As brave Sir Robin would do...... I would bravely run away. When danger reared its' ugly head I bravely tuck my tail and fled....

Posted by: bandjoey Feb 9 2009, 10:06 PM

I emailed for vin info and asked why the vin plates were missing. He emailed back the vin # was 471. Today the car is off of ebay. Watch out Craigslist.

Posted by: mikez Feb 9 2009, 10:09 PM

There weer more than a few complaints to eBay....I even filed one.