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Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 21 2009, 08:12 PM
This one's puzzled me and I'm sure there's a simple answer:
For address and transactions etc. I find a lot of people using all lower case (which is a pain for me as I do not have front end/back end integration. E.G.:
joe smith
123 main street
anytown, us 12345
Is there a reason for this? Is it a fraud security issue?
Posted by: RJMII Feb 21 2009, 08:14 PM
unix/linux are case sensitive, so some programmers have got into the habbit of using all lowercase letters.
take for instance my post; can you tell i've been doing more sql and vis basic lately?
Posted by: sww914 Feb 21 2009, 08:15 PM
They couldn't finish high school English classes and haven't read anything more demanding than a fast food menu since then.
Posted by: ericread Feb 21 2009, 08:37 PM
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM ANYWAY???
Posted by: davesprinkle Feb 21 2009, 08:37 PM
It's the same guys that misspell "the" as "teh".
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 21 2009, 08:38 PM
unix/linux are case sensitive, so some programmers have got into the habbit of using all lowercase letters.
Bad programming, IMHO ...
For comparison only, convert both strings to lowercase, then compare.
That way, you don't force people to abandon their proper English.
Andy
Posted by: SLITS Feb 22 2009, 04:05 AM
i'm to lazy to hit the shift key or caps lock ......
get over it.
Posted by: PRS914-6 Feb 22 2009, 10:07 AM
This one's puzzled me and I'm sure there's a simple answer:
For address and transactions etc. I find a lot of people using all lower case (which is a pain for me as I do not have front end/back end integration. E.G.:
joe smith
123 main street
anytown, us 12345
Is there a reason for this? Is it a fraud security issue?
I find the same thing. I ship a lot and people use all lower case for their Paypal address which I can't just copy and paste. I was stumped about why this was so frequent in the last year or so and have come to the conclusion it's from all the text messaging where it's faster to skip and people just get used to seeing it that way. Write for Pete Stout and see if you get away with that......
Posted by: kwales Feb 22 2009, 10:20 AM
Ratshit Sid taught me all about what programmers put int their code....
Cuss worrds....
He loved to write things like "goto HELL" into the code used in our products.
Ken
Posted by: jd74914 Feb 22 2009, 10:39 AM
A lot of programs are case sensitive. I do a lot of work in Matlab (which is one), but still type correctly.
I think for most people it is a speed issue. Why one would do that on an address input is beyond me though. I often type without caps when writing short notes to friends completely for the increased speed. Its not difficult to read unless punctuation is disregarded. 
Doing that during a "business" correspondence doesn't make sense.
Posted by: Sleepin Feb 22 2009, 10:57 AM
ThAt'S InSaNe! WhY wOuLd AnYoNe Do ThAt? 
Posted by: scotty b Feb 22 2009, 11:07 AM
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WOW that was really hard to do. I had to go back numerous times and delete where I had hit the space bar, punctuated, or capitalized. I think I just dumbed myself down 3-4 points 
Posted by: dkjens Feb 22 2009, 11:20 AM
I think it also comes from entering email addresses, where often initial caps aren't necessary and doesn't matter. Also, I'm sure most people don't know it actually matters per your explanation in the first post. What gets me is all the people who don't know or don't care about the difference between we're, were, where and they're, there, their or your and you're, or no and know, that to me is third grade knowledge, and I didn't even go to school here he he.
Posted by: sww914 Feb 22 2009, 11:51 AM
And while we're on the subject, these drive me nuts too. On a car, it's brakes, not breaks. It's flares, not flairs. 
Posted by: brp986s Feb 22 2009, 11:56 AM
I think it also comes from entering email addresses, where often initial caps aren't necessary and doesn't matter. Also, I'm sure most people don't know it actually matters per your explanation in the first post. What gets me is all the people who don't know or don't care about the difference between we're, were, where and they're, there, their or your and you're, or no and know, that to me is third grade knowledge, and I didn't even go to school here he he.
Not to mention: to, too, it's and its. I'm often guilty of the low cap thing due to sql and unix stuff, as well as being a "floor potato". My laptop is on the floor; one hand props my head, the other types.
Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 22 2009, 11:56 AM
I started doing it as a way to help me identify snail and email that was automatically sent. I figured the automated programs would just copy and paste the name. When something shows up in the mail and its all lower case I know it is part of a mass mailing. I don't think it really helps, just got to be a habbit. I'll try to pay closer attention when I'm dealing with folks like you.
bILLY sHOTT
The devil made me do it
Posted by: scotty b Feb 22 2009, 12:03 PM
And while we're on the subject, these drive me nuts too. On a car, it's brakes, not breaks. It's flares, not flairs.
Yeah I started being a dick a year or two ago and acted as the " spelling genie " correcting peoples errors. I think I pissed a few off
I was trying to help raise the boards standards 
Posted by: Todd Enlund Feb 22 2009, 12:16 PM
What gets me is all the people who don't know or don't care about the difference between we're, were, where and they're, there, their or your and you're, or no and know, that to me is third grade knowledge, and I didn't even go to school here he he.
Extraneous apostrophe's are a pet peeve of mine. (Yes, I am aware of the irony)
As for improper case usage, I always chuckle to myself when someone fails to capitalize their own name... I figure it's a lack of self-esteem
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 22 2009, 12:38 PM
2 finger typer. add who's, whose to the list. ALL OR NOTHING. WHICH WOULD YOU preFER?
LITTLE k. poor self esteem
Posted by: ericread Feb 22 2009, 12:38 PM
And while we're on the subject, these drive me nuts too. On a car, it's brakes, not breaks. It's flares, not flairs.
Yeah I started being a dick a year or two ago and acted as the " spelling genie " correcting peoples errors. I think I pissed a few off
I was trying to help raise the boards standards How many boards standards are you trying to raise? Or were you trying to raise this board's standards?
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 22 2009, 12:40 PM
This one's puzzled me and I'm sure there's a simple answer:
For address and transactions etc. I find a lot of people using all lower case (which is a pain for me as I do not have front end/back end integration. E.G.:
joe smith
123 main street
anytown, us 12345
Is there a reason for this? Is it a fraud security issue?
I thought it was against the law to have back end integration in Utah?
Posted by: Dr. Roger Feb 22 2009, 12:43 PM
even though the beginnings of the internet were very case sensitive (military and .edu's), AOL was the first to mass market AOL "chat".
chatters invented their own language and discovered it is sometimes very difficult to read tonal inflection while reading written word, so lower case words infer normal tone and ALL CAPS INFER YELLING.
typing in all lower case letters reflects a calmness of my tone.
IMHO, rap music dumbs down people. 
lower case is OK by me. punctuation and spelling are my pet peeves.
Posted by: dgw Feb 22 2009, 04:43 PM
i'm to lazy to hit the shift key or caps lock ......
get over it.
me too, i type all day.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Feb 22 2009, 05:12 PM
Another irritant is the misuse of the possessive, as in "There are 2 Porsche's over there ..........
The Cap'n
Posted by: brer Feb 22 2009, 08:16 PM
its cool on some boards to not use caps ever
or punctuation
notice how clean and stylish my post looks
Posted by: murt Feb 22 2009, 08:28 PM
Hey!
That's my real name. But you got the address wrong. (Although NJ might as well be "anywhere USA")
Joe Smith
Posted by: Dr. Roger Feb 22 2009, 09:21 PM
its cool on some boards to not use caps ever
or punctuation
notice how clean and stylish my post looks
OMG, my first belly laugh of the day.
thanks.
and sooo true.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 22 2009, 11:15 PM
The wife is Brazilian...
Posted by: RJMII Feb 22 2009, 11:37 PM
The wife is Brazilian...
Really? My uncle married a Brazilian. She is one of the nicest people I have ever met. Both of their kids are fluent in both English and Portuguese, and are living in the SLC area.
Oops. sorry about the proper use of punctuation and capitalization; I'll try not to let it happen again.
Posted by: charliew Feb 22 2009, 11:58 PM
I'm a little confused. Which might be considered by some to be my normal state. I believe that when I type my name in lc it means I don't really give a s**t what someone thinks about my self esteem. I don't really worry too much about what other people think and I also don't look into mirrors to see how good I look. I wasn't aware that lc messed up anyone's computer system for addresses. I think my pay pal addy is in lc and I'm not real sure how to edit it and most people are happy to take my money any way they can get it.
I didn't know this could be considered a garage topic but that just shows what I know.
I really can use the shift key but sometimes I don't. My left hand has had nerve damage for 4 yrs. and my wife still asks me why I type with one hand. What does that tell you about our relationship?
She on the other hand doesn't mind asking me to fix all the stuff that needs repairing in her world.
Posted by: ericread Feb 23 2009, 12:57 AM
I'm a little confused. Which might be considered by some to be my normal state. I believe that when I type my name in lc it means I don't really give a s**t what someone thinks about my self esteem. I don't really worry too much about what other people think and I also don't look into mirrors to see how good I look. I wasn't aware that lc messed up anyone's computer system for addresses. I think my pay pal addy is in lc and I'm not real sure how to edit it and most people are happy to take my money any way they can get it.
I didn't know this could be considered a garage topic but that just shows what I know.
I really can use the shift key but sometimes I don't. My left hand has had nerve damage for 4 yrs. and my wife still asks me why I type with one hand. What does that tell you about our relationship?
She on the other hand doesn't mind asking me to fix all the stuff that needs repairing in her world.
HAHAHA! Seriously... From Crawford Texas... Can only type with one hand... A bit confused...
Mr. President Bush. So glad you could join us! Do you now own a 914?
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 23 2009, 01:02 AM
The wife is Brazilian...
Oh dear... Well carry on then.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 23 2009, 10:38 AM
Sim
Hey! How bout those Cubs?
Posted by: zymurgist Feb 23 2009, 02:53 PM
While we're at it... the word is "ridiculous", not "rediculous."
Use "rediculous" and chances are you will be ridiculed for it.
Posted by: scotty b Feb 23 2009, 05:06 PM
its cool on some boards to not use caps ever
or punctuation
notice how clean and stylish my post looks
little red porsche
how i long for you to run
you are a rust pile
bank account is small
my dreams are much much larger
i must wake up now
sand bondo long time
make tiny arms bit bigger
make back hurt more too
Posted by: lotus_65 Feb 23 2009, 07:00 PM
it's chill, i've been doing it since the '90's...
AND IT'S WAAAAYYY BETTER THAN PEOPLE YELLING ALL THE TIME!
Posted by: bperry Feb 23 2009, 07:31 PM
ThAt'S InSaNe! WhY wOuLd AnYoNe Do ThAt?
Spoken like a true Novell programmer....
Posted by: MDG Feb 23 2009, 09:50 PM
Superb Haiku; your morae impeccable, your wisdom inspiring. Now, if only people will use duct tape and not duck tape when installing flares . . .
little red porsche
how i long for you to run
you are a rust pile
bank account is small
my dreams are much much larger
i must wake up now
sand bondo long time
make tiny arms bit bigger
make back hurt more too
Posted by: bandjoey Feb 23 2009, 10:04 PM
me, i'm short. my laptop is on a tall desk, and i can't get my pinkey fingers to reach over to the shift key. did i say i'm short? ouch, hitting the ? really hurt my hand. or i'm just lazy. 
bill
Posted by: Lavanaut Feb 24 2009, 10:30 AM
ric, there are dangerous overhangs inside the nternet tubes. yping in all lowers greatly increases the chances of your information arriving intact. t's just a matter of increasing your odds. hat's all.
eid
Posted by: sixaddict Feb 24 2009, 08:05 PM
Ya'll have a lot of spare time !
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And while we're on the subject, these drive me nuts too. On a car, it's brakes, not breaks. It's flares, not flairs.
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Yeah I started being a dick a year or two ago and acted as the " spelling genie " correcting peoples errors. I think I pissed a few off I was trying to help raise the boards standards
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How many boards standards are you trying to raise? Or were you trying to raise this board's standards?
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