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Posted by: okjoe Mar 1 2009, 07:56 AM

I have just acquired a 73, sold as a "parts car". When I picked it up , I found the ID on the rear to read 914 S. I found a copy of a 1972 advertisement featuring the new 914S. Is this car significant, or even rare?

Here is a picture--Vin 4732906151, Original color, Olympic Blue L51P.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 1 2009, 08:10 AM

Some people will collect anything, and if the ad is in good shape, there are collectors of vintage marketing literature. I can't tell you how rare or desirable it'd be - there is a BIG Porsche lit show coming up on the west coast - that'd be -the- place to find the price point. Or check EBay for similar items.

You may already know this, but '914S' was the original marketing name for the car that was later officially named the "914 2,0"

Ya know - naming a product "Something 2.0" was actually a pretty prescient tactic. As I think on it, this might have been one of the first instances of a product version number like that...

The ad might be significant and marketable - there's 'probably' nothing special about the car tho, sorry...

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Mar 1 2009, 08:16 AM

I think he's asking about the car itself, not the ad. I'd be interested in seeing that 914S badge.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 1 2009, 08:20 AM

depends on what he means by 'the ID.'
I don't think i've ever seen an actual factory badge so I agree, that'd be interesting.
As for the car, the VIN and shell number will reveal the most detail...

Posted by: type47 Mar 1 2009, 08:21 AM

When the 2 Liter came out, there was an early idea to market it as an "S" but there was never an official, factory 914S. 'course, you could get an "S" script, for example for a 356, and make a "914S" badge or put just the "S" on. There is a fellow around here who has a 912 "S"

Posted by: 914Sixer Mar 1 2009, 08:21 AM

The 914S designation is given on the last 2 pages of the 1973 deluxe brochure. I have never seen a 914S emblem. A picture of the emblem would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 1 2009, 09:55 AM

let's see it.

Posted by: orange914 Mar 1 2009, 12:02 PM

i always wandered about the exact definition of a 914s

Posted by: okjoe Mar 1 2009, 12:49 PM

Now I have posted a picture.

Thanks for any input.

Joe

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 1 2009, 01:08 PM

Somebody added the 'S' at a later date, possibly from a 911. If it was factory, it would have been closer to the 914. The thickness of the material also looks a little different from the S to 914.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Mar 1 2009, 01:14 PM

100%

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 1 2009, 01:18 PM

I don't know /4 VINs well enough to know if you can tell what was a 1,7 from what was a 2,0 by the VIN. My recollection (also fuzzy...) was that the early 914 2,0's all had the '2,0' badge. So my guess is that the car in question is a 1,7

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 1 2009, 02:00 PM

How would that matter? All 1.7s in '73 were badged also.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 1 2009, 02:05 PM

Well, see, there ya go -- I just don't claim to know the newer cars very well... ;-)

Since I thought the 1,7 badge had different mounting holes (i.e. more than that 'S' would cover) there are a few possibilities.

But it would matter in that not only were there -no- '914S' cars, if this is a 1,7 it wouldn't have been one if there were...

Posted by: okjoe Mar 1 2009, 02:39 PM

According to Dr. B. Johnson, in Restorer's Guide to Authenticity, page 6, the 1973 2.0 was originally called the 914S by the US importer.

This car is equipped with Pedrini wheels, center console with 3 gauges, fog lights, chrome bumpers, etc.

I cannot find anywhere that the cars were actually badged as S.

Joe

Posted by: messix Mar 1 2009, 02:42 PM

some one forgot the "turbo" to go next to the "s" and a big ricer wing.

looks like a add on from a p/o .

Posted by: type47fan Mar 1 2009, 02:48 PM

. . . looks like it had a CB antenna, at one time, good buddy . . . .

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 1 2009, 02:48 PM

Troy I thought you would have noticed the CB antenna mount (broke off)

this guy thinks he bought one too, 914S


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Posted by: messix Mar 1 2009, 02:54 PM

yea i noticed but didn't think any of these pinky lifters would know what i was talking about

can you imagine the ground plane these cars give with all the flat panels! prolly exelent reception.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Mar 1 2009, 07:11 PM

914 S = 914 Salvage!!

Posted by: mikez Mar 1 2009, 07:25 PM

My recollection was that the "S" was a US marketing strategy that wasn't sanctioned by the factory. They pulled it after a year.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 1 2009, 07:54 PM

914 S (scrap) you could have something , Same car as above 34 yrs later.

Notice the less than happy kid that inherited it. thanks mom


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Posted by: al weidman Mar 1 2009, 09:13 PM

I was selling the cars at the time and I thought the European cars were designated "S"" for the 2.0 intro and that the "S" was dropped due to preassure from PCA. Is there any way to see if it was imported from Europe? I do know that the '72 2.0 was supposed to be an "S" model somewhere. Al.

Posted by: Mike Knox Mar 1 2009, 11:37 PM

I think we need to welcome this "newbie" He's none other than Joe Yoder of the Great 914 "Roundy-round". He and Steve(?) Milovich(?) another Rennlist member made a circular trip from Dallas around the Western United States and then across the northern tier winding up at the PCA parade in Milwaukee. I think that was 2002 or 2003. They proved that a nearly 40 year old Porsche still has "IT" (aka reliability) I had the great pleasure of hosting them for a good nights sleep, and then fresh Oregon Blueberry pancakes in the morning.

Welcome Joe!!

THEN AGAIN I MAY BE WRONG, AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT JOE. BUT I DO KNOW JOE YODER WAS LOOKING AT A 1973 914 PARTS CAR IN OKLAHOMA, AND OFTEN DESCRIBES HIMSELF AS A "OKIE"

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 2 2009, 12:00 AM

73 vin and too late for the "S" tag as the early 73's are thought of as the "S" 914's. These were loaded with goodies, had early style doors with early windows winders, and other 70-72 features besides being light weight.
Generally its said the first 1000 2.0L of 73 were the "S" cars...but as Z said the Porsche/Audi Dealers of America named em the "S" and Porsche AG said "NO" hence the 2.0l emblem..

That "S" is a add on..


If this is Joe Yoder, hello, long time to see! Still selling ASKO?

Posted by: SLITS Mar 2 2009, 12:00 AM

It also has a '74 rear bumper unless somebody drilled a couple holes and put bolts thru them to emulate mounts for titties.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 2 2009, 12:06 AM

The Orange Pumkin car chris owns has these features as well as vinyl front windshiled frame. But it didnt have factory sway bars.

Posted by: effutuo101 Mar 2 2009, 12:09 AM

but, it has sway bars now!

Posted by: messix Mar 2 2009, 12:13 AM

"pumpkin"


priceless new name for the car!

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 2 2009, 12:15 AM

pumpkin

pumkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8oNp6TExuY


you choose

Posted by: messix Mar 2 2009, 12:18 AM

The Great Pumpkin Charley Brown!

Posted by: orange914 Mar 2 2009, 12:32 AM

now i'm more confused... i have an early 73 (first 1000)and have communicated with many of the "early 73" owners on this site about these cars features. what seems prevelent is they are very wel optioned, but most started life as 1.7.

this is an interesting thread


my 73 had " titties"

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 2 2009, 01:50 AM

A 73 should have only had them on the front. I think the comment above is talking about the rear bumper--but those holes may have been for the antenna that others were talking about earlier in-thread.

--DD

Posted by: 72914S Mar 2 2009, 06:46 AM

My 72 has an "S" after the 914, but I added it because its a special.

Posted by: SLITS Mar 2 2009, 07:52 AM

The big hole with the 3 mounting holes were for a whip antenna. To the right of that is two more, in a horizontal plane, for mounting the rear bumperettes.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 2 2009, 09:59 AM

Yup, I went back and looked after I posted... It indeed looks like the holes for the 74-only "rear bumper tits".

--DD

Posted by: effutuo101 Mar 2 2009, 10:36 AM

\
Sorry for the hijack
Laugha while you can monkey boy!

When I got the car the plate said "PUNKIN" My wife loves it. Since she tolerates my hobby, I have no problem keeping with that line.

Posted by: Cevan Mar 2 2009, 11:38 AM

I think your engine grill is missing the "S" in PORSCHE.

Posted by: okjoe Mar 2 2009, 11:41 AM

Hey guys-

Thanks for the welcome--Just so you will know, I'm not Joe Yoder, but he sounds like an interesting guy.

This car came from MO, where it has supposedly been in a storage building for the last 15 years. The hole in the rear is, indeed, for a CB antenna.

And yes, it looks like a 74 bumper.

Thanks again for the welcome,
Joe

Posted by: messix Mar 2 2009, 11:50 AM

sorry joe that this thread got hyjacked and some fun was made about the car. we are a good group of friends from all over the world that have these cars in common, sometimes we actually get serious about them and many here have very extensive knowledge of just about aspect of these cars. i hope that you can join in on the social scene and add your personality to the colorful characters here as well as gain any help and knowledge that you need.

and

Posted by: Mike Knox Mar 2 2009, 11:57 AM

Well it isn't the first time I jumped to conclusions, and it won't be the last.
Somedays that's the only exercise I get (jumping to conclusions, running around in circles etc.)



Mike

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 3 2009, 04:02 AM

Makes sense now...if it came from MO, the S stands for the SHOW me state
marty