So I find this '70 914 on Craigslist for $700. Says it's only a shell. Has flares and 5 bolt 911 pattern on all 4 wheels. I call, make an appointment for 2 days later. Car looks like it has good bones. I asked "what happened to the engine and trans?" The guy says, "Oh, it runs". So I buy it. It's going to be my DE/track car. That was THREE years ago. So to get the original six off the track, I started to "put" the project together.
I had been collecting parts for a six conversion for about 10 years or so. I have just about everything I need, but, this is a LOT of work and a LOT of $$$ if you add it all up. Wife keeps asking, when is it going to be finished .............
Here are some pics.
As seen on Craigslist in Philly in Feb of 2006. FG bumpers did not come with the car, but a 1.7L engine did.
2 years later after I bought the FG hood and trunk and replica Fuchs
I haven't done anything like this, but have been reading the 914 Forums for quite some time.
Starting down the road .....
This was some of the worst rust .. front trunk rubber seal area
Rear trunk stripped and primed .....
Fitting the can for the fuel cell
Setting up fitment for the air dam I bought more than 10 years ago for my 1st 914. Need to fabricate the mounting brackets.
Purschased Koni yellows all the way around along with 16X7 front and 16X8 Phone dials ..
A little more progress on the interior ...
Had to frabricate brackets for the Mazda RX-7 front mounted oil cooler ....
Pattern for the air dam mounting brackets .. probably will make the real ones next week.
Checking fitment of air dam and oil cooler ... need to cut out the brake cooling ducts. Spent a LOT of time redoing the air dam. Not perfect, but hey, it's a track car!
have you considered opening up the fuel firewall and moving the cell rearward?....
its really much better for weight distribution with no loss of rigidity.
(not as sealed of a trunk floor though... but its not going to be a DD is it?)
Picked up side shifter in N.J. about 2 months ago. Need to have Dr. Evil go over it.
Power is a (ahem) 2.2L six .... maybe a little north of stock .
As I said, I have never done anything like this or close to this. I knew these projects were "big" in scope and $$$$. I also knew it's good when you can purchase someone else's unfinished or unwanted project. But no, I had to experieince the whole thing myself!!
............ Still no regrets. Want to get it on the track sometime this summer. Couldn't do it without this forum. THANKS!!
Nicely done man! Good progress & looks to be a great start to your future track days
That is a great project and a nice looking engine.
Keep posting the pictures, you can never have too many resto and build pictures.
That will be a fantastic track car when you are done.
John
Before it's too late... I've been told (by guys who know this stuff) that you want a 1:2 venting ratio on the oil cooler. You're setup with putting the cooler in front of the vent holes in the chassis may severly limit it's cooling abilities not to mention you run a good chance of damaging it on any unwanted off track excursions. Most guys put it on the trunk side of those holes. There's a guy on Ebay selling the original GT type glass vents as well to make the job a little easier.
Nice! Good to finally see some of your project even though we're close in location. I'd like to talk to you about your body prepping, ie, the primer, primer application method, etc. I have a project that needs removal of old primer and re-primer application.
Been doing body work and other odd and ends to prep the my track car for paint, suspension and engine installation. Just got the car back from the paint shop today. This is a budget job, but I'm really happy with it (for a track car. I bought the paint, did much of the body work and took it all to Maaco and had them shoot the car; exterior, interior and trunks! They did a decent job with what they had to work with.
Hauled the car up to GT Performance in Edgewood, Md. for the suspension and engine install. I can't believe this is really happening. It's been a dream for more than 20 years but life always came first (wife, kids, house, school. etc.). I still have all of the aforementioned thankfully . Anyways, more $$$ to complete. Smart people who want to track a car will buy someone else's project, I knew that ... I'm just not smart .
On its' way to the paint shop.
After paint shop and at GT Performance.
Nice progress... I dig orange race cars!
Exactly what colour has it been painted?
If it is a Track Car, get rid of those Replica Fuchs & buy some real wheels.
T.C.
Sorry, I saw that you bought some Cookie Cutters, but I thought that Cookies were only available in 6" & 7"s, not 8"s
I thought this project was going to be ready by the end of this past summer. Guess again! Sure, I was a little optimistic and really wanting to get the green /6 off of the track 'cause it's really taking a beating. Last track event at VIR I snapped the passenger side U-tab for the anti-sway bar drop link. Fortunately, got it welded back on at the track by a Grand-Am team whose shop is located at the track. Anyways, a couple of more pics of the track car progress.
Here's the car on the lift at GT Performance. The 911 struts and anti-sway bar have been installed.
Here is the Autopower weld-in roll cage installed. The windshield has since been removed.
Gas tank cavity clear out for anti-sway bar installation and soon to be installed Peterson 16 quart oil tank.
I have since decided on moving the Mazda RX-7 oil cooler inside the trunk instead of outside ... yea I know .. why the outside . Anyways, my job gave me an Amazon gift certificate that was just enough to buy a new ATL 12 gal fuel cell, so now there's enough room for the cooler and the cell. Hope 12 gals is enough for 30-40 minute runs!
The 914 GT stiffening kit has been welded in.
The rear shocks will be replaced with these Konis and the Rebel Racing adjustable perches accompanied by 225 lb Eibach springs.
The newly rebuilt SC front calipers are being replaced with 951 front calipers. These may cause an issue initially for the vintage racing group I would like to eventually run with, but another teener has been allowed to run with them .
Getting ready for the engine install. The Patrick engine mount has been welded in.
Also, rear pickup point reinforcing kit from Chris at Tangerine Racing was installed along with the Heim rods.
One more of the cage .....
That's it for now. Earlier I may have stated that I had found some 7 and 8 inch cookie cutters for the track wheels ... that should have read 7 and 8 inch phone dials. The replica Fuchs are just to move the car around, phones are for the track right now. I have mounted Dunlop Star Z1s on the rims. We'll see how that works out. That's all for now, but more to come.
Pretty sure I remember seeing that puppy up at Gennady's this summer when pickle got her 4 wheel alignment.
Nice looking project. I am doing a narrow body conversion with a 2.2 rebuilt motor with e spec cams, larger ports, 3.0 liter oil pump etc etc. Keep the faith...that is going to be one damn nice car when you're done!
Here's an update on my yellow project track car.
Front brakes are installed
The 911 emergency parking brake has been installed and now ready for the 911 SC rear calipers.
Delivered the 914/6 oil tank to the shop today. The axles are in and once the oil tank is in, we'll be ready to install the engine. Oh yeah, will freshen up the engine compartment a little .
Looks good Mike!
One suggestion I have though, is to ditch the bolt-in front sway bar reinforcements. Get weld-in ones and do it right, or eventually the inner fender will crack around the mounts.
Also, if its a track car, why does it have a parking brake? That's added unsprung weight you don't need on the rear suspension.
Good looking conversion Mike! How many HP will that 2.2 engine will be putting out? The question is...will it be at Hershey in April? My car has a bad case of "next year disease," but I will be there.
Here's the latest update on my DE/Track car that was supposed to be finished by now for this track season (in the Mid-Atlantic, we actually have a "track season").
Do these projects always take so long?? I'm even paying a shop to do the work I don't have time to do or lack the skill to do. What an eye opener (as if I didn't know what I was getting into), but this is the path I chose, no regrets really. I'll have pretty much exactly the car I wanted when it's said and done. Did I hear someone say .... "buy somebody else's project"?
Oil tank has been installed.
Car off of the lift and on it's new suspension
Engine is almost complete
Rebuilt Zeniths with larger venturis and rejetted
Do you still need a -6 engine oil cooler? Looks like a 911 engine oil cooler in the pic.
I would consider ditching the engine mounted cooler altogether and replacing the spot with an oil filter console ala 3.6l or just a delete plate, smart racing has them both.
Nice work Mike I dig the schoolbus yellow
Rear bumper in on the way Mike.. Great looking project..
Jim,
I'm sending mine to Rich Johnson when I get around to having mine modded.
Another update.
A little more progress on the engine. GT Performance will be modifying the 911 engine mounted oil cooler next week. Got the alternator installed and test fitted the manifolds. I can really see this happening now, at least that's what I'm telling myself.
Rolled the car out into the sunlight. It's really dirty and needs to be cleaned up. I'll get to that after it's running. Just wanted to see how it looks with the 7 and 8 inch 16" phone dials. Tires are Dunlop Star Z1s, 205/55/16 up front and 225/50/16 in the rear. Looks like I will need some thin spacers to fill out the wells correctly. The phone dials are early offset as during my research seemed to have the best fit. Maybe I should have looked at the late offset for a flared car.
The car had been hit in the rear, more so on the passenger side corner. The tail light needs to be fitted a little better and the standard fiberglass rear bumber I just got from racerbvd will hide the non-perfections below the lights. I have a "PORSCHE" reflector that will go in between the tailights. A little tacky maybe, but the PO two owners ago, drilled the holes for one and I'm not concerned about filling them in and trying to have a perfect body at this time. Right now I just want to get it on the track to begin sorting things out. More to come.
I really need to have this ready by late June (for the Glen). I'll be taking the green car to Summit Point next weekend and then the Glen if the yellow car is not ready . Now I'm putting $$$ into the yellow car as well as the green car to maintain it for track duty. This is insanity .
Looking good, you chose correct on the offset for the Dials, the late offset is much more negative, meaning they would be more inboard, leaving more space. I also have this set of 7&8s.
Finally after years and years of collecting parts, doing what work I could and trying to swing finances, I was able to "see" the engine in the car. Still lots more work to get it running in the car but hey, this really gave me hope that this can happen. No clearance issues with the Heim rod braces (thanks Chris!) Engine mounted oil cooler is being modified for a /6 application and the rebuilt, modified Zeniths need the final touches applied. This car may make out on the track this season.
Just some other shots of the school bus conversion.
Looking good. Doing a 3.0L conversion myself at the moment. Nothing but fun!
Here is an update to my track car project. Needs to be ready by March 30 for the first Potomac PCA DE of the season.
Fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator.
Engine access cover.
Fuel cell and oil cooler shroud.
The engine is ready for installation.
High torque starter visable.
MSD High Vibration Blaster coil seen here.
911 oil cooler modification for the 914
That's all for now. Should try to get it started in the next two weeks. WooHoo!
I might have missed it but.... No chain tensioners?
Looking good, I'll probably pick you brain when I start putting my accumulated parts on.
Mike,
You have mabe great progress with your toy, just look at the early pictures. Can't wait to see her on the track.......in my rear view mirror
Your so close to the finish line. Great conversion!!!
Some work has been done on the shift linkage. This will have the same setup as my 914/6 which was converted from tail shifter to side shifter. It shifts very nicely, and was done by GT Performace.
Weltmeister short shift will be replaced by a Rennshifter. Looks like even though I have converted to a sideshifter, I will need to use the early type shift mechanism as it appears the shift connection to the front shift rod is different between '70-'72 and '73-'76 models. I am using an early front shift rod.
Accelerator assembly is ready for the engine installation. Of all things, a 993 part was used to make this work.
My car is still on the lift at GT Performance. Hope to have the engine installed and running this week. Pictured below my car is my neighbor's car. We plan to have some fun in PCA DE any maybe some other events.
This should be the final engine install before startup. Still need to complete the wiring, change the cutoff switch to a 6 pole and relocate the MSD box. All in all, I'm getting pretty excited. DE/Track season starts in March for me. Really need to make it this time.
Here is another view of the engine installed and the rear trunk.
The oil feed and return lines run through the cabin on the passenger side. If there are any of you that run a track car with "inside" plumbing, how is the heat experience once warmed up on a hot day? Haven't done it so I'm just asking.
Pre plumbing photo of the thermostat and the pressure regulator.
What size are those oil lines?
SCCA requires braided hoses whenever they run through the cockpit.
Mike,
That looks great, you are getting close.
The mufflers have been installed. I was really looking for some chrome mufflers of this or similar style but couldn't find any. I'm sure now that I have these on the car I'll probably run across some. These are Cherry Bombs and I'm not crazy about the color. When I ordered I could have sworn that I asked for "not painted". Need to trim up the rear bumper some and finish the appointments on the rear exterior ... PO must've had one of those PORSCHE reflectors b/c holes are drilled for one. Just so happens I have one, so it's going on. The bumper and PORSCHE reflector will cover up some of the imperfections from previous rear end body damage.
Also, need to do something for exhaust tips on the mufflers. Hope this setup isn't too loud.
So I added a Stable Energies rear camber truss ..... I understand some say it does nothing good. At one time, I heard it was one of those enhancements some just had to have. I'll see what it can do for me. An easy install .... an easy delete.
Fuel and oil plumbing is just about finished. Still need to add the oil filter console to the oil tank.
I had originally purchased a 2 pole cutoff switch. Came to my senses and removed it and had a 6-pole installed.
Dude that is going to be So Loud, Sounds awesome But.....I just did a mod to mine and made it streetable.
my tailpipes are reduced to 2-1/4 I think I am going to get 2-1/2.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=159774&view=findpost&p=1618429
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Ok, here's the latest update to this project. First DE event of the year for me is March 31, so this is really cutting it close! Don't know if I'll make it .
I've stated to fabricate a GT "style" engine lid. Have plenty of lids laying around so here goes. Should be done, no, NEEDS to be done by the end of the week. This is not an attempt at a high quality, GT reproduction, but rather a modest attempt to provide extra cooling to the engine bay.
Removed the mesh from a donor lid. Flattened it out, removed the little mounting studs and grinded the area down to smooth. Then took an orbital sander an went over both sides until baby butt smoot. This photo is before I did the smoothing and sanding.
I used the mesh to outline the area I needed to cut out. The taped area is slightly smaller than the outline of the mesh so I can have some sheet metal on the lid to fasten the mesh to.
Drilled out the spot welds for the bracing and removed.
Fired up the air compressor, got the grinder out and preceded to cut the areas out right above the vertical braces that are left being careful not to grind into them. Then took out the hand jigsaw and using the starter cuts I made on either side of the vertical braces, cut along the tape outline. Then evened out and smoothed the cuts. Oh yea, addressed the rust. Where don't these cars rust!!
Did a test fit with the donor mesh.
After sanding down the lid frame and, did I say removing rust, painted with primer. Should be able to have this finished by the weekend when it needs to go to the car.
The IMSA front end has been mounted. I know this is not everyone's cup 'o tea, but for now, I like this. Something I've always wanted. Besides, it's easy enough to go with the original "GT" look later on if I want to. This is the front end I found on ebay for $103. Had to fix a crack, sand and paint. Yes, the front wheels will be getting modest spacers.
We have begun the installation of the GT headlight kit. The shocks look like they will need to be raised higher on the inside fender well. All of the others I've seen are. Need to ask though what the thinking was on mounting them at that angle.
Also started the install of the seats. Thanks to Chris Foley for the kit to install the passenger seat in an early car. Oil line should be braided lines by next weekend.
Keep the green car filled with gas just in case.....
Great job and keep the faith regardless of whether you make the DE on the 31st! I just busted my engine on the dyno 3 days prior to my first DE this year...sucked but that goes with tracking/racing. Looks like your project is well thought out - enjoy every aspect of it.
BTW, as you have commented many times, it does financially make sense to purchase a completed car. I'm dumb too in that regard but would change NOTHING - my car is built for me, by me! Be careful too sorting your car out!
Phil - there are no rear engine mounts...the "rear" mount would be considerd the trans mount.
This week's installment of my project track car as I get it ready for this seasons' events. First one is in only 2 weeks!!
I was able to finish my GT lid interpretation and take it to the shop today so it can be mounted this week.
Also got to hear the car run for the first time today. Here's the link. If you have a good speaker system you should be able to hear it just as I did today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCc8YlDQzk
The GT headlight kit works really nicely. Only need to pull knob in the cockpit installed. GT Performance did a really good job getting this installed without a set of official instructions. I passed along a couple of the links on this site depicting how others had done the installation.
The rear end is almost finished. Need to fix the nick on the right side of the rear deck spoiler. The rear ride height is still high and wheels, both front and back need to be spaced out.
Took care of the oil lines going through the cockpit with steel braid. The hoses are Aeroquip.
Latest update on my conversion project track/DE car. Picked it up from GT Performance today . Hope she runs. Going to Summit Point in the morning for a PCA Potomac DE event. I haven't really driven the car yet so I going to take it real easy until I get to know it.
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Keep the shiney side up and shiney!
That is one nice looking car
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looks good
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