The important stuff ( clarified 7/17):
The gist:
- This is happening on the days of Sept 12 and 13. All day. BYOB and food. Clean up after yourself.
- This is happening at Jake Odule's in Battlefield, OR
*If you bring one or more gear boxes for rebuild then the cost is $300
*Spectating is free and you can ask questions (but will have to wear a thong on the out side of your pants so we know you are freeloading )
*The cost includes: gloves, rags, cleaners, parts trays, aluminum baking sheets for parts cleaning spots, sarcasm, foul language (when no kids around), etc.
*New parts area available through me ( I will beat any suppliers prices, let me know). Seal kits area available before hand for $40
*People are encouraged to bring cores to part out as people will potentially need more parts than I will have. Also, you all will likely deplete my stash and I will need more parts for the next 2 clinics
*The clinic is 2 full days and I will work as long as you do. I usually start at 0930 and go until after 2200 if necessary.
*PM me if you are going to be a paying guest and make sure to tell me which clinic you are going to attend.
*DRAIN your gear box before the event!
*CLEAN the out side of it a little. Not spotless, but enough to keep if from crapping up the place
*Bring cardboard to protect the facilities
Paying attendees. Last update 8/24
- Todd Enlund (covered)
- aircooledtechguy (Paid)
- Scotty (Paid)
- Pete-Stevers (Paid)
- Gary - Grinding 2nd (Paid)
- my928s4 (Chris) (Paid)
- JRust (Paid)
- Moordi (Paid)
- mstein95 (Paid)
- montoya 73 2.0 - Grind going into 2nd (Paid)
- Larouex - 1st gear grinding and 2 gear is hard (Paid)
- PanelBilly (paid)
- Mr. 242 (Paid)
- Jmmotorsports (Jerry) - Re-gear for V8 - (Paid)
- gity - grinds in 1st
- EyeTrip – 1st/R issues
Spectators
- TC 914-8
- Championgt1
- J P Stein
- Rdauenhauer
- Kelty360
- Phoenix 914-6GT
This should be fun!
I'm out 19-25 July - otherwise the summer is pretty open.
Due to work commitments would prefer a Saturday or Sunday.
I am only busy for the 4th of July so far. The clinic does not have to be right away. It needs to be when it is best for everyone. I am likely to be interviewing starting Nov through the end of Jan so times will be more up in the air then. Fri-Sun definitely is best as most work 5 days a week, but I can do week days as well.
I am gone 15-24th July, open all of August.
It looks like Aug will be the best bet so far.
I'll probably be there for BS and beer, but unless there is a miracle, I won't be able to afford to rebuild the tranny.
And, unless I manage to sell the house before then, I have plenty of room if anyone needs a place to stay.
Um, Todd, you owe me nothing. Havent you forgotten the work that you have done and continue to do for me? Bring a box and we will handle it
I am interested...I live in the portland area and could host as well.
guest house, Big shop with lots of room.
Only weekend I cannot do would be Aug 14th,15th and 16th.
^^^ Hey I just replaced all of the phones at the City of Battleground!
If you guys choose to come to my place, here is my contact info.
Rich Wright. 541-914-8115. My house is about 12 miles East of I-5 on hwy 126 in Walterville. There is a store and restaurant/bar next door. Plenty of room for campers and room for a few in the house. If folks want to come and don't have a tranny to work with, let me know. I need to make a call to verify but I think I could get as many 901 sideshifters as we could possibly need.
August works for me - I'll be in attendance.
First part of August or anytime in Sept. would work for me.
Jerry
I'm open any weekend so long as I have enough notice to schedule some vacation before customers schedule my time for me.
I`m in ...do we bring a tranny or just have one there to play with ?Im pretty open on dates
YEA!
Early to mid-August would be great (late August brings dreaded "inservice" days)
I'm interested and flexible on my schedule.
Mike, you need a place to stay, ride from the airport... whatever... I'm not working... no family... house to myself. Let me know.
Hey Todd, I can always come out a few days early and hang out
I'd be in for mid-August thru September.
I have a class from Aug. 10th - the 14th in Eugene, and my wife and I have thesame day birth day July 5thso not that week if I know what's good
Boa
AS long as it isn't the weekend of the shootout at Packwood I'm in! That actually works better. I can't swing sending my tranny out this month Evil . Daughters had 2 different BBall camps this month. Kind of screwed my car budget. Plus I bought another parts car. Which will help as it gives me the extra tranny I need. I'll plan on bringing 2 up. Looking forward to it
I cant take any more trannies here at the moment. My garage is full and I am back logged for the first time ever Sept is looking like the most responsible month to do it. Maybe my bus will be done and I can drive it across the country......and maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass
He was talking to me
Both Mikes can stay here And anyone else that needs a spot is welcome. I've got lots of room. Three empty bedrooms and a living room. Unless the house sells before the clinic...
I don't think that anyone has thrown the dates out, but the Packwood Shootout is 8-9 August.
How about Labor Day weekend? 5-6 September?
I am out of town in Aug on 8.14 - 8.17. I can make any other dates, including Sept.
Oh, hey... the other thread mentioned a keg. I can brew a batch of beer, and bring a 5 gallon keg. What style does everyone like? IPA, Pale Ale, Mild, Amber, Brown, Stout, Porter, Witbier, Kolsch, Barleywine...
OOOHHH. I like brown and porter . The 5th of Sept is my wedding anniversary. So if this ends up happening on that date, well, that's how my luck goes.
Just wondering, if we've got 6-10 trani's to rebuild, will there be enough room for everyone to work? Do you do them one at a time? Will there be enough time to do them all. Or will we end up with a cluster @#$@ of mixed up parts everywhere?
Have you done this clinic before with half a dozen/more boxes all over the place?
Do you have a rough outline of the class? Not doubting your skills,just wondering about the logistics.
Thanks
Also should we order parts/seals in advance or will you bring them?
Cool Mike. It will be fun to have you out in the area. I'll be sure to be there at least to visit. I have a ton of gears if anyone needs any. I even have a perfect X gear if anyone is interested.
It is coming together, how about Sept 12th ??
Weekend before and after are no go for me so selfishly the 12th is good
Gearbox I have came with a roller so be interesting to see what needs to be done to it for sure.
Beer dark and hoppy please.
I take back what I said about not being able to do this on my anniversary. My wife rocks!
I have 3 trans I would like to do so if some one would like to do one and does not have one!!!!!!!!
The 12th is sounding good.
I like the 12th too.
seems ok to me ..but that is a long way out .And we all know how shit can go south in a hurry... but right on
12th is good for me.
How about Negra Armadillo?
SRM 61
148 IBU
7.6% abv
It's a black version of my semi-regionally famous http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=%22hoppin+armadillo%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=RSigrpzoeQc
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The 12th is semi far out, but I have some very important stuff to do before hand. If things change, they change, but I can plan for the 12th and give everyone a good head start. I need to do killer on the 3rd step of my license exam before I submit my applications in Sept.
So, lets focus on the 12th from now on so I can let the other clinics know what dates are taken
I agree. Is there anyone else that has read this thread and feels that they can handle this crowd for a weekend?
I am 5 hours north/east of Portland, further South is less preferable but I will bow to the masses.
We need a host, otherwise it will be at the Shad Tree garage
A rough count: 3 folks fairly close to me, 1 from down south and 11 from Portland and north of Portland.
Anyone heard from Craig Laughlin lately? He has room and is in Lake Oswego. How far is that?
No offense to Rich, and thanks for offering, but if Jakeoudoule can host, he's much closer to the center of mass. Walterville is 2+ hours each way from Portland (135 miles). Battleground is <30 minutes (19 miles). Lake O is about the same from the airport, a bit closer for those living in Portland proper.
Another option.
I am about 20 minutes from Portland airport & easy to find.
There is plenty of bench space in the shop but I have no overnight accommodations. I don't need a trans rebuild but have some parts & assemblies under the bench.....plus tools. Bout a case of beer in the fridge that needs to get drank(drunk?)....I don't do the stuff much.
I'm open to wherever. I'd offer my place but I realy don't have much for benches to work on. Nor is my stock of tools probably up for multiple tranny's. I am north of Shadetrees & south of Portland. I have been to Jp's & he has nice garage setup for sure.
Having said all that I'd be happy to host & have plenty of parking. We can rig extra benches but would need people to bring extra tools. I also have some room for overnighters. Camping would be no problem. I have a 3 car garage with the single bay being my porsche area. It's pretty large I can fit 3 914's sideway in it. I love it but the downside is I'm in the flood plain. So I don't have much for plugs in the garage.
Okay so there is another possibility. I'll go wherever it is
I don't need to rebuild my tranny(knock on wood). I would be down to come and watch and drink some of Todds home brew!
I can always crash as Todd's if the venue has no over night accommodations.
So, we should assemble a list of all of the host candidates and take a vote. As for tools, all anyone needs to bring is a 14mm socket, 13mm socket, 10mm socket (only need one), 5mm allen (only need one) and that is about it. I will get some more sets of the special tools for everyone to use depending on the number of people showing. Getting more tools just makes sense given the scope of this tour.
Yeek, you have some advanced stuff there. We are going to be doing the basic class that 99% of the people need, not that dial gauge stuff
I would be interested to attend and possibly participate. My stock 73 tranny is grinding going from 1st to 2nd (only when at high rpm) and going from 3rd to 2nd (again at high rpm). That being said, I'm open to any time I've got vacation time to burn. Two questions though, What's the cost and do I have to bring anything besides the tranny and tools?
Wow, I haven't been on the site for quite a while, see what I missed.
I'm in, when ever and where ever it happens.
As for tools, all anyone needs to bring is a 14mm socket, 13mm socket, 10mm socket (only need one), 5mm allen (only need one) and that is about it
Aren't those sockets gonna be kinda hard to turn without a ratchet, or are ya using supergrip rubber gloves?
Ya ya, yuck it up
Montoya, cost is $300. There is a master thread with the details, and there are details in this thread. Let me know if you still have questions.
Jack and MR242 can ride down with me and i can get two more in the truck if needed that makes for cheap fuel cost ...to where ever it is were going (insert smiley with a 14mm wrench)......right on
Sept 12th sounds good to me; I'm definitely in. I don't currently have a tranny in need of rebuilding, but am now on the hunt for one.
The Binford 8K. . . I've got $50 toward a pig. Lets make this an event!!
I count Evil + 21 souls at this point. Wow.
I'm in. The 12th is a little far out but right now looks great.
I've got a tailshifter I'll be bringing.
i'm in. mike(dr), you might consider asking for a nailed thread that could be removed after the event. the thread will be at the top of the front page for the next 2 months. folks will get tired of it. jack, we can work out something on one of my spares if you want to do a trans. want to split a room?
k
Excellent!
Paying guests please PM me and let me know which clinic you are in for. I keep getting PMs from people saying "I'm in" but I dont know for which one
21
I saw the required tools list - is there a materials list (i.e. rebuild kit) or are the materials provided in the fee?
So, are we down for J P Stein's now? I am unclear as to where this unholy event will happen. Pig roast, eh. I have never been to one, but I love the swine
Sorry guys, I haven't really checked the threads in a while except to double post (Eeeek) yesterday on a cool car.
If we really have 21, I don't have enough garage space to set up 21 tables and keep us under cover and dry. Todd has been to my shop/garage so he knows. September is usually good weather here so I would be happy to host a BBQ for those attending.
Another thought - I have friends who own a couple of vacant warehouse spaces in portland that just might work (for no charge - if we keep them clean and clean up after ourselves) but I would need to check if there is interest.
Dr. E - PM me if you want to talk about more details and I will give you my numbers.
I am in - at a minimum - for a tranny class! (Bras and panties optional )
The first thread has been updated with the important info.
Brett, I'll be in touch. I am waiting to clear a migraine first
I cuddle roughly
i am in....i will bring a tranny or two,
i will plan on staying a nite, at a local hotel if necessary
and can bring some crappy canadian beer
and i've gained some weight, but i think the thong will still look great
i can bring a few,
but if you want them washed, that is gonna be extra
i think craigs place would be great, lots of room in his shop
and is close to hotels, or we can pitch tents with the cows outside
but i have not heard or seen him on the board for a while
Do we have a consensus on where it's gonna be yet? Was it said to be at J P Steins or Shade Tree? Portland is a 5 Hour drive for me. My leash isn't that long so can we keep it no further than Portland (wife's request)? PLEASE!! if it is than I probably will attend anyways but the tranny in the back seat of my jeep will be unhappy and asking all the way "are we there yet"?
21+ people is alot! Do we get a "i survived the PNW tranny clinic" shirt?
I'm in depending on the date. Bringing a box. Hard to get into 1st
I have a poblem with the 12th depending on the agenda. I have an Autocross on the 13th. I leave early on that morning and won't be back till 2 in the afternoon.
This can be worked around if any responsible person shows up.
I could host, have a nice motorhome for a guest house. sleeps 3 if you don't want to cuddle. Also have plenty of parking if someone wants to camp in a trailer or tent. I'm lucky to have nicely finished shop. 1 section is 25x30 and the other is about 24x24. both sections pumbed with air, a nice part washer, two motorcycle lifts that make good tables and some other roll around tables. But 21 is alot of people. How many watchers and how many trani's?
I am 22 miles NE of portland airport
I updated the 1st post to reflect who is paying and who is watching. Let me know if you are not on the list you should be on (I still need to tally spectators).
When we did this last time it was in a small 2 car garage with a 914 in the one bay and 14 or so people in the other. You will be amazed at how little room you need per person Seats are nice and a table is as well, but the table is not necessary.
Jake, your shop sounds perfect and available. I am amazed at how many people stepped up to offer lodging. This is a great group and the event will be worth it.
I will make certificates and if you want we can do shirts. I am sure Todd has an idea and oldschool can make them up.
i am coming and will be paying!
Mike - I'm in for the payin' group. If memory serves, issue is 2nd gear synchro.
I count 24 total with 9 students and 15 spectators If you are on the wrong list in the first post then let me know. PM me if you are intending to be a paying student.
Mike, how about some of those uber cool evil werks shirts made up for purchase?
If I can get the time off this would be awesome! Would love to learn the black magic. I will have to freeload as I can't afford to put the tranny together. Should be awesome I'm monday wednesday off so that would be sweet .
Sounds as if Jakeodoule (if that's his real name ) has a better set up than I.
Go for that.
Hey Mike you have me and my Brother (MR242)on the wrong list ..I have a1974 side shift i need done and have no idea what the condition is and hes is a 1970 tail shift from hes six gone through ....so there ya go ...Thanks
Mike C
I go by Jake and John..
Its cool we have it here. I would ask that people clean the outside of your box before coming. That can be messy job.
Dr Evil,
(if thats his real name )
I will be rebuilding my 76. I need a seal kit. please.
Both my speedo and shift shaft are leaking. I am assuming the seals are in the kit.
Also my 4th gear whines pretty good. pretty much only when on neutral throttle.
On or off the gas the load on the gears stops it.
Is that a bearing? can you bring a new one? Other than that noise, my trani shifts and works good.
At the risk of bragging...here's a couple of pictures of my dream shop I have been building for the last 5 years.
file://localhost/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/John%20Clemens/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/IMG_2042_1.JPG
file://localhost/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/John%20Clemens/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/IMG_2041_1.JPGfile://localhost/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/John%20Clemens/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/IMG_2043_1.JPG
I can't seem to figure out the picture thing on this forum....
There is a Conference race at PIR that week end, but if I am still out of a job, I won't be racing.
So I guess I am in the tentative group for either option. Like that should be a surprise for anybody!
OK Jake and John, you have the site! I will be in contact with you soon and we can work out the details
For pics, just upload them from your computer.
Dr. Evil's Tranny Clinic, brought to you by Creamy Treats!
This will be a great event, not only do I get to rebuild a gearbox (something I have always wanted to tackle) but I get to meet like minded enthusiasts which for the 914 is new for me as it is a lonesome existence up here in that respect.
Jake/John thanks for hosting, much appreciated.
Okay, We have a site! Cool. Thank you for hosting Jake/John! Where exactly is "Battle Ground"?
Google maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=battle+ground+wa.
Battle Ground is about 10 miles east of I-5 and 20 miles north of portland airport.
I had a couple of emails about facilities.
My shop does have a bathroom and shower. I live in the woods so camping is pretty nice. Nice flat grass. Or I do have room for camping trailers if you want to bring something like that. As long as its not a 40 footer, My diverway is a little tight for that. Motels are at least 10 miles away.
We can sort out all the details as we get near.
Are we firm on that date then? Sep 12th & 13th...
I sorted the picture thing. I was trying to insert image instead of attatching it.
Oh!!! I am so going!!
Tail shift 1st and reverse
Paying
Yup, firm on 12-13.
Your shop should do
List updated, WOW! Also, added some extra rules at the bottom of the list to protect the hosts from foul tranny biz.
Nice shop !! Are you into motorcycles?
Mike (Sir Evil), Please don't forget my parts request, thank you.
also, Rubber Boa I see you are going, I'm coming up from K.Falls would you like to share a ride? My jeep can fit a couple boxes and people.
Hey confirm me will you?
Thanks
Dave
If anyone needs gears with syncros & dog teeth, lemme no and I'll bring some along. If the good doctor is bringing parts I won't infringe on his sales, tho. I gotta tear down another one as the GA mainshaft is gettin' sold. Typically, first gears/sliders are in short supply and those I have are shakey. The rest is gud stuff.
HAY....what's this?....I was reading the rules
Spectators (free loaders ) (x8)
OK for you. I'll just wander around looking over guys shoulders & snickering.
JP, bring what you can. I we will have much need I feel. No infringement here.
Dave, I'll put you on the list.
Everyone, I wont take parts requests until I solidify things with "Jake and John" and start collecting fees I'll post here, dont you worry.
I am in & paying. I will bring 2 boxes & a spare allready apart for parts. I think for the most part it is there. I will want 2 gasket/seal kits. I will be bringing my "h" gear for my v8 tranny. We've talked about that so you know the deal there. Probably doing the block off on 1st gear too. The other will be a stock job.
If we are doing a prepay deal just let me know what & where to send it
I'll add you. I'll be collecting money and taking part orders starting sometime next week
I have an idea of trying to get a group buy for 1st sliders since currently the cheapest ones are at Pelican for $435 and most of you will need them I bet.
Maybe AA can hook us up?
perhaps the 'np guys', hate to use the word 'freeloaders', should be required to clean the exterior of 1 filthy trans to get in the door.
gary emory @parts obsolete had bins of trans parts. could be a source. i know dave hunt has been down there and scrounged a few times.
Yep Gary has a ton of stuff. He may have some core boxes and he has bins of transmission parts. If I remember right, the tranny parts are not all sorted. I know I came home once with a 915 1st gear when I wanted a 901 1st. He's not always cheap but, in a bind he may be able to help. He has a barn full of parts for all kinds of Porsche stuff and usually has some cool cars he's working on. I'll see what I can find out. As the time gets closer we may be able to get a shopping list together and have a look see.
Dave
I don't know Gary, but if someone who does know him can work a deal, I'd be glad to run out there. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist too... I set up a "901" RSS feed and a "porsche tran*" feed.
to the top from page 5.
I will be updating this tonight, I hope
The venue that Jake is offering sounds incredible!
Info on Lodging.
Here's the deal, Our place is kinda in the woods and I have plenty of space for anyone to camp. Tent, trailer or whatever.
I have beds for 3 in our Motorhome.
I also have two tents and 2 sleeping bags up for grabs.
There's a leather couch in the shop that somebody can sleep on as well.
I do have a full bath and shower in the shop. Those that care can clean up.
I have a large fire pit and endless wood for saturday night. so camping may be the best option if your able. Anytime you get a campfire/beer going, I'm sure some lies will be told...
All beds and or tents are on a first come first emailed offer. I am however reserving one bed for Dr. Evil if he wants it.
I do have a full bath and shower in the shop. Those that care can clean up.
The closest Motel is 9 miles away in downtown Battle Ground.
www.bestwesternbattleground.com
I spoke with the gal "Bindiya" She said double rooms are normal 119.00 for Sat night but she would give a teener deal of $100.00 with 2 queen beds. Just tell her your with John Clemens and PGS. That is my company and I told her we we're having a business meeting...
Kinda pricey but spit by two is not too bad.
As far as food, I really don't have any delivery to my house. I figure with as many watchers as we'll have, we can send someone out for pizza/beer as needed.
All I would ask is everyone bring they're own hand tools and drain the gearbox before coming over.
I have air tools should anyone need them. I will email directions as we get closer to the date.
Should be fun.
Thanks,
Jake/John
Awesome!
I second the draining and bringing of own hand tools. I posted such in the 1st post as well.
So, who is bringing food? BBQ? I loves me some BBQ.
I will take you up on the bed, thanks Jake.
This is going to be a hell of a time, well worth it
So, time to start collecting the funds $$$ I would prefer checks. I will contact those that said they are paying and give them my details.
Very cool. I have room as well if anyone needs it, if not, I might just bring a tent.
I'll bring 5 gallons of "Odoule's Evilbrau". Tentative recipe:
13 lbs Pale Malt
2 lbs Belgian Biscuit Malt
1 lb British Chocolate Malt
1 lb Cara-Pils
.5 lb Crystal 105L
.13 lb Roasted Barley
1 oz Centennial 60 min
2 oz Northern Brewer 15 min
1 oz Centennial 2 min
1 oz Amarillo dry
1.073 OG
40 SRM
53 IBU
7.5% abv
If the numbers mean nothing to you... 40 SRM is dark, nearly black. 53 IBU is well within the IPA range for bitterness. 7.5% abv is about 1.5x most American lagers. The chocolate malt give a dark color and a flavor similar to chocolate. Biscuit give a bready flavor. Crystal gives a caramel sweetness. Roast Barley gives a coffee bite, and Cara-Pils will add some body. The hops will add an orange-lemon citrus aroma and flavor, with a bitter kick.
I'm open to hearing opinions and suggestions... feel free to state them, and I'll decide whether to ignore them or not
This is based on previous requests for "dark" "brown" "porter" "IPA" and "hoppy"
I'll see if I can think of a good snack to bring as well.
I've stayed in the Battleground Best Western twice this year. It's new, clean and pretty cheap. If you aren't bringing your wife and you're staying at this place, tell your wife in advance that the bill will say that TWO people stayed in the room even if you only paid for one!!! yeah, there's a story there.
OK, PMs sent to the paying people. If you didnt get one and are planing on paying, let me know.
qity, I can not find you on this forum, how did you contact me???
Evilbrau,Thats going to be one stinky garage on sunday....
Mike, the prospect of a thong has me a little ..unsettled. So Ill find a way to scrape up the 3 + bills, being quasi unemployed times are tough.
I can bring a side shift box, parts box and tail shift for conversion or cannible action.
Jake your shop looks awesome, looking forward to talking bikes.
Ill prolly drag a camper with me so if anyone from Seattle area is going & wants to split gas there's a 2nd pretty comfy bed available in it.
sorry double post....
Dude, chew gotta read the 1st post. It is a two day event Sat and Sun. All day both days. I will PM you the pay info.
So far out of the 19 I PMed only 1 is sending funds, 3 will be late payers (no biggie), and one has withdrawn ( ). We will have 19 when the money is in my hand We will have enough room and time, dont worry. I can do Fri too if necessary.
Fellas, ya need to put on the envelope or somewhere your name on here. I have 3 payments in and only know for sure one of them
mine will be sent out Mon morning doc!
i will be running up from Canada if any one wants a lift! i have room for one!
and a couple more of trannies, and a roof rack for more stuff.
So, I updated the 1st post to reflect those who have paid. If you sent in payment and dont see it reflected there, let me know. Most of you sent me checks with no screen name so I dont know who the hell you are
David Moore?
Larry Jordan?
I have your $$, who are you?
Just so there is no misunderstanding. I just sent my check. JRust (my screen name) is short for Jamie Rust . Mine is in route! See everyone soon
Ya ya, the check is in the mail
JRust, your check has arrived and I put you on the paid list
Anyone else interested in paying up or canceling? I just want to know how many to expect in the paying crowd - so far 8
I PMed Jake and hope to be talking with him soon to settle thing right before buying my plane ticket.
Mike - I will get a check out today.
PM Sent
I talked with John and it is going to be kick ass! His set up could not be more easy to work with and I think everyone is in for a treat
Sorry guys, my work schedule is not going to allow me to go. We've been pretty light on the work load this summer so I better not complain.
Rich.
I don't think I'll have the $$$ to fix my gearbox, but I will at least try to make it down there for an edumacation.
Evil, do you have a approximation on parts cost to cure the 2nd gear grind (based on typical failures/wear of course), I'm guessing the friction rings. Mine shifts fine if I give it a pause in between gears.
So far I'm figuring $300 + $40 +????
I've had my Mk2 transaxle apart, so I'm not too frightened by the prospect.
If you buy new parts you could be in for:
- $285 slider
- $150 Dog teeth
- $75 synchro
Total = $510
Used:
- Slider $75
- Dog teeth $50
- Synchro $30
Total = $155 (big difference, no?)
BTW, if you are interested in buying used parts off of me be aware it is first come first served so PM me and I will get you set up. We can talk about the problems you are having and decide what parts you need. Once they are gone, though, they are gone.
If you have sent me your tranz issues already but wish to use some used part please re send the info regarding such.
I would reserve the parts for you if you want. I have never had anyone need to buy a new slider as I tend to have about 10 or so Sycnhro bands on the other hand are becoming in short supply. I think I need to take inventory tomorrow or tonight and see what is going on.
Lemmeno what you're short of, Doc. I have some good stuff and may be able to get more. Dog teeth are interchangable, are they not....the trick seems to be getting them off without damaging them. 2/3 & 4/5 sliders are also interchangable& the same with brake bands. I *could* go check this out, but it's easier to ask you.
You can use dog teeth in all spots, but if use on 1st it needs all of the guts on the inside (I can use this). Sliders are interchangeable and the 4/5 ones tend to be as good as new. Let me see what I am short on, I wont sell anything that looks used. Whats the point? I will let you know.
We will have the facilities and equipment to grill and drink Also, there is plenty of wood for a bond fire in the evening for those who hang late or camp out
Yup I cant wait.
mstein95, I got your check
Did I mention the live band and strippers???
OK, here is the latest issue I didnt consider. I am flying out on the 11th (Fri) which is no biggie, but where the hell am I going to waste my time from Mon til Fri when I fly to SoCal? Anyone unemployed and want some help working on their car???? Give me options. I will ask the SoCal group to see if I can come out there early as well.
Tickets are purchased! No turning back now.
I am due to arrive at PDX on the 11th at 7:20pm and will leave town on the 16th after chilling with Todd for a few days. :beer:
I am open to hanging out on Fri night, but it would likely need to be off site Check in will be 0900. Expect to be working, asking questions, taking notes as I will be lecturing on how things in the gear box work
Where are the campers camping? I'll be looking for a place to set up a tent, right now I'm leaning toward the Battle Ground State Park, unless a bunch of you guys are camping elsewhere.
I will probably bring some thirst quenchers so I'm not a complete moocher, but since I'm currently contemplating going to Monterey for a day or two of the Historics, I definitely won't have $$$ for rebuilding the trans. Guess I'll just have to drive it down there!
Everyone is welcome to camp here at the house. I live in the woods and have plenty of flat grass for tents. Also room for a camping trailer or two. Nice firepit, a full bathroom in the shop, so your all welcome. Depending on the final numbers I have a second BQ on stand by. I've got plenty of space (10 acres)and very private. There's no reason to pay for a spot at battleground lake.
Arrive Friday night or Sat. morning. Doesn't matter. I will be here Friday night rearranging my shop anyway.
Not sure if I'm picking up the Dr. or not. So I may be gone around 7 to 8 if so.
Other than that I will be here.
All beds I have are now spoken for.
I do have two tents with sleeping pads and bags if anyone needs one.
As we get closer I will email directions to everyone.
I would like to stop by Sunday morning, I've got some conflicting plans on Sat, but would like to spectate and bask in the smell of transmission fluids and sweat. I'll bring a few cold ones.
WHAT?!
Am I the only one planning on sleeping in his 914?
Ugh - on second thought, I'll be bringing tent and bag.
Jake can you save me a spot for my 26' motorhome...self contained
No problemo...
I have not hadthe time to stay with all the chat, spent most of my $ this summer fixing a boat.............. So in the short future can some one post a map for us Southern Or. folks
Jake, I'll be in my VW Camper so I only need a spot to park. I'm planning to be there Friday evening as well.
I don't recall seeing directions or an address yet. . .
Well, I was one of the hold outs: Dr.Evil, PM sent. I have to decline.
My funds are tied up with an attorney and I will be DEAP into a custody issue with my kids.
I love my car and really want to have the tranny rebuilt; however, I love my kids more!
The funds have to remain in constant supply to feed my attorney! And I need the ruling to go in my favor, I AM GOING FOR FULL CUSTODY!
I will miss the group and the event. But someday, I will be challenging 6Freak with my SIX. He just gets a break for a bit longer! (You all should know he needs to be afraid of his little brother)
Thanks for allowing me to delay my answer. But, I am working on family right now. I hope to have an influence on my kids to catch the 914 bug! I have given them a ride in my dad's SIX and they were grinning ear to ear. I explained to them that's what I am working on.......they can't wait for me to pick them up from school in mine when it's done. That's the best motivation over winning an AutoX or COTM award! IMHO
Thanks Fellas: remember beer is always easier going down than back up!!!
That's what my 4 year college education taught me!
Mark
Dr. when will you be in so cal I have a trans that you could rebuild if you need the extra work while you are here e mail me a response at bernbomb914@verizon .net
Bump
Just a heads up I was sporting my Evilworks t-shirt at the 914 shootout this weekend. Talked to a few people about the Clinic too. Saw a few of the guys signed up
Good looking out
I decided to take a spot with my camper at the Battleground Lake campground, so Jake send us directions to your place so we know how to get to the shop. Looking forward to the clinic!
Larouex
I would ask everyone who wants directions to please PM me.
I'm not to keen on posting them where guests to the forum can see. I may still be wanted by some pissed off women claiming to have my child...
I will be happy to send them to anyone that is registered on the forum.
Thanks.
I am about 8 miles from Battle Ground lake.
For those of you that are able, ( tranz not in car, or car not needing it before the clinic) to figure out what parts you may need, I recommend you pull the stack beforehand. Instructions on doing that (for the side shifter) are in my rebuild link below. You can post pics here and I can Dx your parts needs.
Anyone want to bring a dirt bike Friday afternoon? I have 75+ miles of trails right at my doorstep.... We could bust out a few hours before the gang rolls in.
Is the Doctor in?
When I pulled the shift support off the o ring broke in half. Is that something you can bring or do I need to order it. I think its part no 999 701 359 40
Also this bearing was bad. It came out of the rear of the case when I first pulled it apart. I think its the axel needle bearing cage. Can you provide it? I did find the little rollers so I know they're not floating around in the case.
Third, Do I need to replace these seals in both sides since I pulled the final drive shafts off?
Billy,
The seal kit has all the seals. I can give you that bearing, but I bet one of the donor boxes has one to give as well. Where was it located? Beneath the gear or on top of it?
Part 999 202 001 00 and there's only one. This is the axel needle bearing not the pair of needle bearings that go inside the reverse gear
BTW, I have a tailshift donor tranny, should I bring it? I have no idea what is wrong with it if anything as the car was not running when I took it in.
Sure bring it.
Mike Im still tryiong to pull together $ to make this.
Gotta sell a few more bits
Jake is their room for yet another trailer? If not perhaps I can mooch a bunk off someone else ?
Should be no problem, How long? You'll more than likely have to unhook after parking. Only have room for one or two that can reach power hookup. Otherwise have flat and level room for three or four others at least. But anything longer than about 25 or 30 will be tight if your not good at backing...
I am going to call it closed to enlisting on Aug 26th so I have time to order parts and ship stuff.
Dr. Evil, coming atcha today in the mail. Paid in full except for the Super CV bolts your bringing.
I`m out ..sorry fella`s ....Just to many irons in the fire
Not even to show up???
Doc:
I have only one first gear slider & it's just decent. It would seem that this is the most abused/NLA bit. I hope you have a plan.
I just pulled apart a trans. The
slider was toast tho the dog teeth were good but the syncro band was flat.....go figure. The pinion shaft intermediate plate bearing was in multiple pieces.
JP,
1st is generally shot. I posted earlier on in this long thread that if people wanted to get 1st sliders for this clinic I had a source for $350. Dog teeth from 2-5 can be made to work in 1st so I have that handled with plenty of spares. I also have some pretty decent 1st sliders for $100 ea. These save some money and will work great for a long time after a rebuild and class.
For bands, you can buy new from me if you like for $75, or used ones that are in great shape for $35.
Many times I've wished to buy a month.....even a week. They are NLA nor ever were..bummer.
6Freak....Bro....We're in!
JRust, you might have to double bunk with Mike.
So let's do a rebuild on my Six Tranny!
Now, I have to speed up my time line and drop the engine/tranny and have it all out for the 11th drive to Portland.
Can't wait to meet the Dr. himself!
Mark
JRust, you might have to double bunk with Mike.
so i guess im back in .......
If im drive`n the motor home i pick the bed i want .........Jamie wanna feel safe that nite! sleep with a Cop ....there`s three beds so dont be talk`n no gay shit or you`ll be sleep`n on the ground
I will be fine Jamie ..lots of room to stretch out on that table bed...would be kinda cool to just throw a bag out on the ground ..been lots of years seen ive done that ..but then i would wake up and remember why i dont do that anymore ...It will all work out! you have your spot reserved
Just a little .
It's coming up quick.
Is a one day rebuild realistic for a suspected 2nd gear synchro issue? I know it's a little hard to predict until I get the box open. There's a 10k back up here in Tacoma on Sunday I'm interested in running with the family.
I've only received directions request's from 5 people.....
Anyone else need the info?
I need an address to ship the supplies to. Can ya PM me?
A set of directions would be gud. Battle Ground is no longer just a wide spot in the road to Lewisville Park.
Yeah, I could use directions -- PM or email at scottygu3 -- gmail.com
Ok I give in. Do I need any other parts?
No see'em the dogteeth/silder teeth on 1st gear. THE high wear area.
With the shafts thru the intermediate plate I can't tell if the bearings are bad.
4th gear looks good.....but most are.
To your question: I hab no idea.
If I knew where the dogteeth on the first gear were, I could send a photo of them. See how little I know
OK finally removed my stack too, PanelBilly your internals are way too clean
What am I in for? Presume I just need to bring the stack to the party?
Billy, I cant tell much from your pics. Ya'll need to take off the 1st gear slider (one 13mm bolt then slide it up and off) and take pics of the wear areas to get an idea of the condition.
Yikes, OK will bring check book !!
My gearbox casing looks like crap, spent a LOT of time cleaning and degreasing but probably worth getting is blasted before the event. Any advice on removing the diff?
Chris
DONT BLAST IT! This almost always turns out badly. Just clean it pretty good and be happy Diff doesnt need to come out right now. I cant see your pinion point gear in the pics. Check them to see if they are galled. If they are then your box is not worth rebuilding
Chris, it looks just fine
Mr. 242,
"Is this a Whiskey, beer or wine crowd? "
Yes I like good ones of all of these. Scotch, Bourbon, Beer, bottle of red, bottle of white
Whiskey, brandy, vodka and beer! I'm going to bring a couple of bottles!
Were getting close gentlemen! Whose bringing some grilling/BBQ meat and stuff?
i'm going to be leaving (in the jeep) southern oregon about noonish on that friday. that puts me up at Eugene around 3:30ish which would then have me up in the Portland area by 5:30. Unless I hit traffic, Whats the rush hours up there?
Never tried Wild Cherrry Pepsi with brandy or Vodka, I'm gonna try it that weekend!
Please PM the directions my way.
Jamie - lets touch base the week prior.
I'm bringing beer. I was planning on soaking up a batch of bourbon/rootbeer ribs for the grill too. I'm not sure how much to fix up 'cause no matter how much I make, I could eat them all myself!
Looks like I am rebuilding my gear box just in time.
When I drained the oil a sweet pretty new House of Colors paint color came out....
"Por$che bronze Gold Metalic With 100 dollar flakes." Part #$$$-$$$
What do you think Dr.??
(Disregard the Moth, he flew into the oil after it was drained) He couldn't resist the pretty gold color. Th stuff on the rag is like a paste almost.
The little chunks came out with the oil....
Is that just a bushing or something cheap??
It was shifting nice with the only problems were a whine in 4th and a few leaks.....
JRust - Crap! It's been 12 years since I lived in the big city (San Jose, Ca.) I've forgotten all about traffic. Looks like we may be hanging out. Oh damn the pre-party before the party!!!
PanelBilly - I've never had Bourbon/Rootbeer ribs? Is it any Bourbon and any kind of rootbeer or are there specifics to this recipe?
Traffic is like any city. Some days you fly up 205 at 5pm others you don't
I would take 205 and not I-5 Coming from the south. I live about 1 hour from the 205/I-5 interchange thats in moderate traffic. I drive it at least once a week at rush hour. Rarely does it take more than an hour and an half. Its really not all that bad unless shit major crap goes down.
I can think of only 2 places that have that much brass. The speedo drive screw gear (not likely) and one type of mainshaft intermediate plate bearing cage (bloody likely). The finely ground texture does not bode well for the rest of the works.
The speedo drive is stripped... Leaks bad and is broken....
I guess I'll know next week... I may have to drink to numb the pain...
John,
I would bet your input bearing is toast as that is the cage you are seeing in that pic. The speedo drive is made of the same color material. I have a drive if you want it. Let me know, I'll hook you up.
That cage your seeing is the oil drain pan....
I have not taken anything apart yet.
It appears my friend you have shaveing in your gear oil ...Not good and the colors not right either ...............I bring a T-bone to slap on the grill and some Crown Royal ...what else do you need Jake
I would say everyone just bring what you want to drink/eat. If we want to go together on a big meal thats cool too. It would be easier to cook and serve than 10 or 15 sep meals. Somebody mention RIBS? I just don't have time to organize it and shop for all the stuff. I am tight with time next week as I will be out of town till wed night. As I mentioned before I have no delivery of any food here at the house. There will be a gas grill/micro/oven for use anytime your hungry. I have plenty of fridge/freezer space for food and we'll just keep the beer/pop in coolers on ice. If you have a good sized cooler maybe bring it with a bag of ice. My wife and I are tea drinkers, So we only have a small coffee maker in the MH. anyone is welcome to use it but it only makes about 4 cups... If your a Coffee addict/snob (I know a few of you are coming from Seattle) you may want to bring your setup. There is a little store 2 miles away and box stores about 8 miles. So if we need reinforcements it won't be too much trouble. Well just send one of the lackeys thats just watching.
Is the count on the 1st page of this thread accurate Dr.?
Oh yea, I have a cool little HO slot car setup. If you have any cars, bring em.
Yup, the count is accurate so far as I know
I dont drink coffee either. I cant bring food so someone needs to feed me
I will be coming down Fri eve, hopefully start heading out about 3.
If someone wanted to go organize some food for the group and we split the cost I think that would be a neat idea rather than us all bringing in packed coolers or taking trips down the road all the time. Just a thought ... I would do it if I was local.
Really looking forward to this event if my box needs more attention than I thought
Since most people will have eaten when they should up Friday just some munchies will do.
We could just figure out the food thing Friday night and then somebody can make a run Sat morning...
i will have to pop into a grocery store on the way down, i can't bring any food across.
I will be running down the 5 but could some one please pm directions or just the address
i maybe tenting it
i am expecting a 5-6hour drive
I'm going to try to come down to party Sat night. I'll be tenting.
Dave
I live close to White's Country Meats, and I can get 12oz bacon wrapped Filet Mignon for $6 each. I'll check and see what I can get ribs for. I could also stop by one of the farmers out here and get some corn on the cob.
I'll plan on making a batch of ABTs.
Hope these photos do a better job of showing the condition
I can't tell you anymore about the rib receipe. It was handed down from generation to generation. Well actually, my older brother found it on the net and told me...
The details are going to cost you a beer or two
1st looks good from what I can tell. Take of the slider! I need to see the teeth.
my box needs more attention than I thought
she whispers in your ear
And you thought you were done
Im bring`n a 4+7 table as well ..and a cooler with ice ....anyone up north wanna ride down in the RV your more then welcome.So far it just my brother and I.Got room for at least two more folks
Hey Doc, you need a pickup at the airport?
Nope, Jake is picking me up. If it is easier for everyone for you to do it that would be cool. LMK jake/Todd
PanelBilly - I had to ask the guys at work if they heard about that recipe, One guy said anything marinated in rootbeer is good! Your more than welcome to a few beers.
Question to whomever? What is a good product to clean-up a tranny? I was thinking Simple Green or some good Ol' foamy bright.
Hey Dr. It would be alot easier for Todd to pick you up. I will prolly have guys showing up around 7 or so. I thought you were coming in in the afternoon...
If Todd can get you that would be great.
If you get me a list of the stuff you want I can get it next week.
The slider is the thing that slides up and down and selects 1st or reverse. There is a fork attached to the shift rod that retains it. Take the 13mm bolt out of the fork and slide the slider and fork off together and take a pic of the underside where the pointy teeth interface with the pointy teeth on the gear.
Todd, which ever is closest, your place or Battleground, is probably best. I have no preference.
I'll get in touch about the shopping list.
RE: my928s4 gear stack
The parts need to be cleaned off to be 100% sure.
3rd slider side – go
3rd Teeth – go
3rd Synchro – go
2nd teeth – no go
2nd slider teeth – cant tell
2nd synchro band – no go
4th teeth – hard to tell, might be OK
4th slider teeth – cant tell
4th synchro band – needs to be cleaned off to tell
5th – completely obscured
1st – teeth are worn and can be replaced, the rest is obscured
1st and 2nd synchro bands are toast, 1st slider is barely passable in the pic, I have better used ones. 2nd teeth look bad. 1st teeth can be replaced. By the looks of the 2nd band and teeth I would estimate that your slider ont he 2nd side is poo as well.
-2x synchro bands
-1x 1st slider
-1x 2- slider
When you pull the input and out put shafts apart, how much play do you get??? Can you take a pic of the bearing in the intermediate plate?
More than about 1/16" play is too much. You can pnly get a pic of the input bearing under 1st gear (the small one). The rest will require disassembly so dont bother. You most likely need an input shaft bearing. Its good others are bringing core boxes to part as I think I may run out of parts The whole PNW will be shifting like a dream after this!
I would say the area by my house is not really for younger riders. Most of the trails round here are close to expert. I ride my beta trials bike on a lot of them. They just lead off into the woods. for miles. I don't have any trails on my property.
Unless someone went with him to show him which trails to take, he could easily find himself at the bottom of a mean rocky hill....
Trailers not a problem.
See you friday.
It looks like Todd and I need to come on Fri since there will be so many of you there I already have your monies so if you decide you dont like me on Fri night, too bad Just kidding.
Doc will you cover conversion of a tail to side shift box?
That shot actually tells us a lot! You have the aftermarket steel caged version of that bearing. This is a great thing as they are much stronger. There has been a large increase in the incidence of broken output shaft bearings, but you need to be able to pull some parts that I will help you with to see it. No worries.
Any of you guy willing to haul my tranny and a folding table down so I can drive my new SL? I can haul a load of ribs in the car, but not the tranny and table too.
Parts are in Auburn and I need to gather up all the tranny stuff, but I could have it ready early in the week.
Dude, it is for RIBS! Please
Leave the table, Bring the ribs, trani and SL.
I've got at least 6 work stations no problem. can maybe come up with 2 or 3 more. I was just think if anybody had a good table and could bring it they should.
Doing some more cleaning and came across this, me thinks this not good. When I pulled the drain plug it was more than full of shavings and I bet some of it was from here ....
Good news is the case is finally looking somewhat respectable ....
Here is a pic of the case, would not believe how long it has taken to get like that .. must have leaked from every orifice for 20 years and then some underseal just to top it of.
Wonder if I should pick this up on the way down and see if it has a better gearbox than mine ....
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1357781232.html
The roughness in the center of the gear is normal, it is the factory way they are. The roughness of the Reverse (flat) teeth however is due to habitually grinding R
$700 for a car. I hate you Westerners. That car would be double here or more.
Another question: is there a benefit to using the 911.xxx.xxx 901 case w/the extra boss at the bottom (ala tail shift) vs the 914. case ?
No, none at all. It may actually be a detriment as the vent is in the wrong spot and might interfere with placement in a 914.
Drained both boxes & pressure washed them. They cleaned up pretty darn good. I did notice my box for my LE has had the tranny ears welded back on. I'd like to replace it with one that hasn't been broken if there is an extra there. I am bringing a spare tranny for parts. It has the rear cone but is broken by the speedo hole. So looking for one spare tail cone for a side shifter.
Everything is ready to go. Spare tranny apart in a box. "H" gear is in a box in the box. Foldup table is ready. Now I just need to coordinate with anyone wanting to caravan up friday night
How many people are actually driving their 914 to the event? I am planning on it!
here is the link to answer!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=99178
Are we still looking to start at 0930 Saturday? I think I'll head down from Tacoma Saturday a.m. (Friday night commitment).
Do ya think we have enough cores? The carnage from the teardowns makes me a teeny bit concerned. I really want a rebuilt box when I'm done. Hope it's just a syncro, but the pictures of other peoples boxes makes me think that's optimistic.
I'll be coming down in the Passat, not a 914, but will haul a table and tools and the tranny .
Oh, and somewhere I saw a post of what tools to bring, but don't see it now. Guessing a socket set, regular and deep. Beyond that, not so sure...
Wow I just picked up 2 tailshift Tranny's tonight. Should have plenty of parts . So I am now bringing a total of 5 tranny's. Only rebuilding 2 so we should have some backup in case we run low. I know Evil is bringing alot & so is JP.
Scotty, you will finish. We will make it a priority.
Tools needed:
-13mm socket
-14mm socket
-wrachet
-vice grips (large is good)
Tools that are nice to have:
- Set of drifts
- Large crescent wrench
- Hammer
- Larger pin pliers
Things I will be supplying:
- Aluminum work surfaces (disposable flat cookie sheets)
- Aluminum parts wash basins (disposable roast pans)
- Brake cleaner
- Carb cleaner
- Rags
- Foul language, dirty jokes, methane, beer recycling, etc.
I was going to supply gloves, but I forgot to get them today and I am going to be out of town Wed to Thurs. If I get into town before Harbor Freight closes I will get gloves, if not I need either John to grab some or people to bring their own.
Apologies for the newbie question, but what is a "Set of Drifts"?
Larouex
I have gloves too.
After cleaning my trani today, I found a pretty good crack on the bell housing....
I'm not sure if I sould have it welded before this weekend or wait till I get it all apart.
Our community leaders here have nothing better to do so they renamed a street on the way to my house (just last week.) so I will be resending the directions. Those coming from the north need to heed the new directions.
Should be a fun weekend. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone.
I need to know how many are bringing motorhomes/camping trailers..... And a estimate of time of arrival
While I should have enough parking for all the cars. I don't have a lot of level parking. So I need to have an idea ahead of time. I would request anyone with an RV to stop at the bottom of the driveway, and walk up to see where we are going to put you. Its not a problem to get RV's up the drive. It just that you should look at it and plan out where your parking and turning around...... Those with cars go to the top of the driveway and we'll unload your stuff and show you where to park.
I'll have a tent, and I should be there with Dr. Evil at around 8:30-9:00 on Friday.
I'll be bringing my gee-tar for around the camp fire so anyone who has an ax or other acoustic noise maker should do the same The more you drink the better I sound
Larouexuyx,
Drifts are metal rods that come in various sizes to punch out pins and such. Harbor Freight sells sets for cheap that you can abuse and toss
Can you PM me directions? I should arrive in time for beer Sat night. Don't forget about Emory's down in McMinnville. As I remember he has boxes of parts. You have to go through then but, he may be a resource.
Dave
1 F150 SCREW
1 20" trailer
1 6x3 table
Steve Peters
4 901 boxes in various condition
Tequila + or some other Libation
Jake Steve is coming down from CA so we could be there early afternoon.
1 - Jeep Commander
1 - Transmission
1 - Cooler (food & libations)
1 - foldable table (2' x 4')
Caravan up with JRust
1 tent. Maybe 1 car (might ride down w/ Nate on friday).
I'll bring a box of gloves too! I'm going to hit up Harbor freight before I come up. Be happy to grab whatever there that is needed. I'll get a set of Drifts for myself. If anyone needs something & doesn't have one close. Shoot me a PM & I'll grab it for you
If this weekend carries on anything like this thread the weekend is going to be a riot.
Realized I do not have any vice grips, will head out to HF tomorrow and grab some bits.
Apart from packing some supplies into the cooler I am ready to go!
Someones cheeks are gonna hurt after this weekend
I am making sure there is a BBQ or grill!
I grabbed up 50-60 oysters for grilling! That outa help out the "bunking up" and if it lasts longer than 4 hours......we already have a Doctor in the house! He will take care of you!
Also, anyone coming from the Camp 914 area? Any chance to bring some parts from there I have paid for?
And...........I can't wait to touch my TRANNY!
Mark
You know this was coming...
Yes on the BQ.
I have a good sized Gas Weber and a smoker...
I also have a large 2 burner camp chef cooker with 2 burners, griddle and grill.
We will have a full outdoor kitchen setup right outside the garage door.
So if you want to bring beakfast stuff thats no problem.
There is plenty of fridge space for food. I have a fridge in the shop, as well as the Motorhome.
Getting my trani's crack welded tomorrow......
I should be able to make it Saturday if not Sunday....still up in the air.
I'll bring parts, a 30mm deep throat socket, air impact wench, a pair of Godzilla (snap ring) pin pliers, Torque wrenches, smoked salmon, a mic & shop manual, Dave's tool.......Ya'll gots ?, my special tools .....iff'n I can find em', gear pullers...
Only one more day of work before the real work begins
I am way to excited to be going anywhere to work
I need to pressure wash & drain the 2 tailshifters I picked up tonight. Then get everything all loaded. Always works better if I load the night before. I am more likely to remember the things I forgot the next day & can still get them before I leave
Same here. Gotta go get the Kielbasa sausage, booze and etc. Then go home and load it all. Can"t wait to get this party started!
Oh, and a little work on the Transmission!
Those with Motorhome's or trailers PLEASE don't forget to stop at the bottom of driveway... Right after you pull onto the gravel. Just park and walk up. Its only like 100yards. But the parking may need planning. Those in cars just cruise up to the top. the shop is behind the house. My driveway is gravel and a little steep in one spot (very short). If you stop on that spot you will have a tough time of getting going again. So just cruise right up all the way to the top. There's lots of room. Then you'll turn around. I only tell you this because a delivery dude stopped on the little hill, couldn't get going again, then tried to back down and ended up in my pond. Took a crane to get him out. It was awesome! I have enough parking, but just! and it'll be tricky to make sure the campers can get in after about 6 or 8 cars are here.
The sooner you get here with your RV the easier you'll have it. But we'll work it.
No worries!
I'm really Lucky to have a great place in the woods to throw a party like this and I can't wait to share it with everyone.
I have only one thing to ask. Please do not throw cig butts on the ground. I can't stand the fact that the world is an ashtray. Thanks.
Party On!
Sweet! Now to clean and drain my transmission (make it cleaner and emptier) in time for Saturday.
Wheee!
Dudes! This sounds like more fun than work. OYSTERS!!!! Hell yes. I like them raw, but if done right on the BBQ I have enjoyed them as well
I just packed my suitcase and after putting in the 35# or so of parts and tools, I managed to get the case to about 60# total with clothes Jeeez. I should have shipped most of this stuff. I am shipping the SoCal stuff lest my luggage weigh 100#.
I'm packed and ready to go. Work half day today and on the road at about 1 pm from Southern Oregon!
I'm out of here @ noon and headin' south with Chris (Helios) in the bus. Packed and ready for a great time!!
Looks like I won't be getting out of here till 3pm, I am thinking I will be there about 9.
Going to take 14 all the way across, love that road in my 928 but still somewhat enjoyable in the SUV.
There has been some talk about fancy beer, but do most people like Coors Light for drinking durring the day? Sorry in advance if Coors Light OFFENDS anyone!
There is a distributor close to me that has pretty good prices.
I need to contribute something to this weekend!
The more Beer interest (Coors Light) I get the more I will BUY!!!!
Need feedback!!!!
Very cool. I'm leaving work about 1. Still have to get those 2 tailshifts to pressure washed & drained. Then get my rig cleaned out & loaded. Didn't quite get to it last night . My excursion will be pretty well loaded. 5 transmissions plus all my other crap.
Montoya (sorry forgot your name allready) I will see you this afternoon.
As far as seats for working. Seems like my liitle harbor freight stool doesn't sit real high. Anyone think some bar stools would be better for working on the tables?
I'm headed out to pick up the beer. I'll stop at the produce market and pick up some corn on the cob (8/$1.00). I have fixin's to make Atomic Buffalo Turds.
I'll be picking Dr. Evil up at ~7:30, and heading to Battleground VFR direct.
I'll drink a beer or two with you. I'm bringing some fancy beer also.
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Me too, but I won't be there until Saturday morning.
OK, hopefully I didn't go overboard on the BEER......like that is even possible.
3X 18 pack Coors Light CAN
1X 18 pack Coors Light Bottle
2X 12 pack Blue Moon for those that are too good for the light and I wanted a little variety!
Hopefully this will give me some mooching credit
The moment I don't buy enough of something is the moment I run out!
I've been know to inhale a Coors Light or two.
Count me in for some. I'll reimburse of course.
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I'll drink a beer or two with you. I'm bringing some fancy beer also.
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Me too, but I won't be there until Saturday morning.
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If we drink that BEER all tonight, I won't be there until Saturday morning either!
Well, I am stranded in the ATL airport> My flight left Harrisburg late and arrived here 2 min before my connection left Internet is sloooow, like creapings of frozen turd slow, and only $8
I am now booked on a flight that is 2 hours later...leaving at 1221 Z (19:21 EST)
Soo, I will be 2 hours later. I guess I have time to do homework now. I will be calling Todd in a sec.
Had you made the transfer with a few minutes to spare your baggage wouldn't have made the trip(SWAG).....now you have a chance with the 2 hour delay.
Have a great evening.
Damn...I need a powerwasher...a brush and rags just ain't cuttin' it. I guess I get a little feelthy Saturday.
Other thought: "Damn...that's NOT undercoating the PO did...
I hope ya'll had better luck than I with getting there. The directions I got were garbage. It was a nice morning for a drive in the semi-country. There is NO 199st off SW10th.....the mileage was off to boot. Answering machines on both phones was a nice touch
If ya need parts or tools call me. 360 693 8404. I gots other things to do.
Yeah, JP...even Google Maps had issues with the mileage.
I learned 3 important things:
So, someone must not have installed their tail cone to intermediate plate seal as I found a spare one where Scotty was working
Got back around Midday, what a weekend, talk about sleep deprived.
Yesterday was a looong day but a bunch of us ended up completing the boxes, great experience and thanks to Rich and Jamie for the parts I needed.
John (Jake) you have an amazing place and thanks for putting up with all the banging, mess, beer etc ..
Mike, thanks for the help, verbal abuse and plethora of stories.
To everyone else great to put some names to faces at my first 914 event.
Now watching the F1 race in a nice comfy chair.
Check your junction between the tail cone and int plate on the top by where the ground strap goes. You should see the paper gasket there. If not, I am guessing that this one is yours and I can send it to you
Dr. - I believe that extra was mine. Had two in my kit (four total gaskets). You handed me gaskets to use as well.
As a precaution - JAMIE - please double check the tranny I rebuilt for you.
Hey Morgan,
It wasnt Jaimie's box as we checked it You had 2 tail cone gaskets??? That is like a 4 leaf clover.
I'll go buy my lottery tickets now.
Here are some pics
Dr. Evil in his domain:
Mike and John (our host):
Jamie
The Crandel's
Billy
Drew
Rich
Jerry
Scotty
Steve
Todd
More
Carnage
Chris (helios) and I just returned to my shop in Anacortes. What a weekend!!!
First and foremost: THANK YOU John for being such an gracious, accommodating host and allowing a bunch of ruffians into your way-cool shop for the weekend. Personally, thanks for allowing me use of your welder and other tools needed to get my shift coupler modified so I could get home. Any time you find yourself up in my neck-o-the-woods, Mi shop, su shop!! Please let your wife know that I said thanks for letting us play at your house this weekend and for putting up with all the noise.
THANK YOU Dr Evil, for everything!! Knowledge, stories, cigars, and a healthy round of BS for all I really enjoyed hanging out and learning the 901. Thanks!
Thanks to all the rest that I met, the names are many and most have escaped my brain, but I never forget a face. I hope to see you all again at another gathering.
Food and Entertainment
John & Lynn's famous waffles
Billy's Ribs
......is there a doctor in the house? Ryan's 914 meets the wrong end of one of Dr. Evil's trany tools.
The Tranny Files[u]
Dave
Apparently carpet does match drapes
Jamie
Jamie meets a friend (John)
Steve
sneak this one in of Corey
A fond farwell to Dr. Evil's tranny clinic - THANKS MIKE AND JOHN
Just got home myself. Aboslutely awesome weekend . I had a blast & learned alot.
Big thanks to Dr. Evil for making the trip out & helping me so much with my box! Despite my screwing everything up & mixing gears from 2 transmissions together (one of my spare's I pulled apart knowing we needed parts).
Huge thanks to John for putting up with all of us
Morgan is just cool as hell for building my second box for me. Was planning to do it today but he was up to learn. The box he ended up bringing wasn't the right one so he built mine instead. Saved me alot of time. Thanks dude
It was great meeting everyone & working all weekend with fellow 914 owners. Can't wait for the "Falling leaf tour" now
Hey Cory we'll have to figure out a time for you to come down. I've got the transmission for you. Come weld my suspension ear & well both be happy
I am reading, but I need to recover more before I post at any length. I satisfied 13 guys this weekend, man am I worn out
Man, that was a hella lot of fun. We're doing Type 4s next summer
Nate, thanks a bunch for the part to get me back together. Everything is good, just need to open the case back up and put in some seals. Right now, I have a rebuilt 901 that is guaranteed to leak!
It was great to see guys that I knew again, and to meet guy that I hadn't.
Now, I gotta figure out how to deal with Dr. Evil until Wednesday...
I typed it on purpose Poking fun at myself and the weird discussions around John's campfire.
just got in....
Jake - thanks for hosting! You're a gentleman. What a great shop - like working in a big-guy toy store.
Mike - appreciate the expertise and patience.
Corey - thanks for talking me through the teardown
Jamie - thanks for tearing down your core; the dog teeth and synchro were mucho appreciated!
All - it was great to meet you; now I gotta get the teener running again!
I am a happy camper. I have a clean and ready 901 for my project and I learned a lot. Thanks John for the hospitality and Mike for patience and guidance to finish my tranny as I was the last person to complete...
Larry (Larouex)
Thanks to the Dr. for a great time and some great knowledge. Thanks for the music around the fire. You play a mean coum-by-aah! Also thanks for crashing and breaking my Zagi plane....I hope your a better Doctor then a pilot.
Big thanks to Rich for the buddy deal on the Trani. THANKS!
I had a great time hanging out with everyone, talking shit, telling lies and drinking around the fire.
It really was a great time and amazing we rebuilt that many boxes at once.
Sorry to JP for directions snafuu! Looks like like I'm getting a parts car this week. If there is anything you need PM me and I'll hook you up.
There were a few things left behind...
A Snap-on 3/8 drift punch.
2 good size cresent wrenches.
a red chair
If you want any of these PM me and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Anytime any of you want to use my shop/lift, your more than welcome!
Big thanks to John for opening up your shop for the clinic!!
It is a spashy shop indeed, but i noticed there is room for one more teener!!
Doc thanks for the education, and the unending supply of smart-ass comments!
It was great to see you guys, and i hope to see a bunch of you before the snow flies!
after 340 miles in 5 and a half hours I got home at 8:30 pm. Thanks to: John (Jake) and his wife for the kick ass shop and the waffles. Mike (Dr.) for the instructions and Pink floyd by the fire, I was impressed! Remember, your not gay unless you push back! Chris (helios) for all the help. Nate (aircooledtechguy) for letting me use half of your table and some tools. Rich thanks for the killer deal on the part. Steve (Pete-Stevers) for making me laugh and for being canadian. Ryan (thompson-Mfr) for the help and the shift ball. Morgan (Mstein) for taking pictures with me in them so the wife really knows I was there. Todd for the atomic turds evil dropped in his pants and caused a mass eviction of the shop! Billy for the mass quantities of pork flesh, they were good! Jamie (Jrust) for allowing me to hang out with you for awhile at your place! The crandel brothers you are some funny sum bitches, thanks Mark (Mr.242) for the Pit Maneuver instructons and the oysters! I am missing several others but thanks for the fun and a great weekend! we have to do something like that again, your a bunch of good guys and it was a blast. BTW, It was my first 914 event so you guys made it a really cool start!
Thanks John!.And thanks to the Evil one! and everyone else .......... had a great time
Its already been said, but thanks to all. John for being a great host and Dr for the teaching style (that I found to be the best part of the event).When my kids were young, I was a 4H leader and we used the learn by teaching program. The older kids taught the younger ones and they re-learned the subject over and over. It appears the style works for adults too.
Sorry I ran out Saturday night. It took me about three hours to get home to my own bed. The time past quickly as I listened to Art Bell on the radio most of the way (but on different channels).
I had so much fun that i want to think of another clinic (see Teener Tuesday)
Would you trust this guy to work on your shift linkage?
Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of thanks!
John, that's one hell of a place you have there and I'm not sure you ever want to give anyone really good directions. With all of your hospitality, you'd likely end up with a really large extended family camping out there.
And, to the Dr., yeah you *were* laughing at me. But it was awfully nice of you to stop laughing long enough to say you weren't. Now that's proper bedside manner!
Nate, thanks for the helping hand and the great parts deal - check's on its way.
Everyone else, thanks for the camaraderie and help (too many of you to list, since I didn't even get everyone's name). You made the whole experience worthwhile.
Dave
Hey Guy's
I would like to see some documented repairs, teardowns replacing parts and assembly.
Not just pictures, maybe some video's like you would see on youtube.
That would be a big benfit to this site.
Thanks guy's
westgl
Ya know...somebody has a bad first gear out there...maybe that someone could make a nice BFtool like the Doc's...
...but with a lanyard so it won't fly off on unintentionally
I snagged a bad 1st slider from Drew before I left. We will have one of those tools in the PNW should anyone need one. I will have to weld one up before I tear mine down.
[/quote] I have an order in with Dr. Evil to get one sent when he gets home. I can check to see if he has two......
I think it would be great to have one or two to pass around to use! Share our tools............... in a non-gay sort of way! [/quote]
Hey Mark, after thinking about it I would like one also. PM me with the price if and/or when you can. Thanks!
Drew.
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Put it on YouTube...
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I love it. "You only get to know what you saw and paid attention to" and showing up is always the right thing to do. I will make sure that next time PNW Tranny Clinic is offered, I will stay, help with the BBQ and play Guitar, my bad.
Scotty, you are fine. Those are the gaskets.
Morgan how would one (me) get a copy of the event photo's? PM me or email me at drew_a_montoya@yahoo.com
TOP TEN thing I learned at PNW tranny rebuild clinic: No particular order
1. John (Jake) garage has made my garage insecure.
2. Don’t bring A Slim Fast to a Teener event unless you want ridicule (in my fridge thought it would be quick food WRONG!)
3. Dr. Evil knows way too much about Tranny’s (double meaning implied)
4. My car reeealy needs a paint job after sitting next to Morgan’s (mstein95)
5. If you’re Canadian bring your thick skin to the event…ehy!
6. If your car needs a paint job and body work, Dr. Evil is the ultimate Motivator!
7. Sleep is optional. Can’t even imagine if I rebuilt a tranny.
8. Dr. Evil doubles as Roger Waters. Nice guitar playing man!
9. There is no limit to the amount of meat that can be cooked on a bbq.
10. Gear selection when driving a Split Window Bus is optional.
Thanks Dr. for all your knowledge, I learned a lot!
Thanks John for sharing your amazing garage/home with us!
Thanks Nate thats a great deal!
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/9144/POR_9144_TRANSM_pg2.htm#item7
here are a few pics....a little late....
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In LA now at Joe's. I do miss the PNW and hope to have as much fun here as I did there. I am glad so many of you are interested in trying one on your own and look forward to your PMs asking questions about anything
Just took my new trans out for a first, post-rebuild drive. Smooth as Butter!! Thanks again to all. Especially you Chris; you bailed me out of a VERY foggy night
I am back home and will be recovering before I make any long posts. I am BEAT.
And, I have a box waiting for me at the bus station, and one half apart on the bench, and a stack in route, and........I am a glutton.
Drew,
PM me and I will hook you up.
OK, I think I am finally recovered from this last week enough to post my deep thoughts on my experience in the PNW. I had a BLAST! I tried to write a little something for each one of you, but I quickly abandoned that idea as I would have too much to say and it would still be lacking. However, I do need to mention a few people particularly.
John, I am glad you are part of our community. You are a very cool individual, generous, and you have done some amazing things that you could be arrogant about if you wanted to, but that seems against your nature. You have a kick ass set up and you took great care of me for which I am eternally grateful.
Todd, thanks for opening your house up to me so I had a place to crash for my extended visit. I had a great time hanging out with you and drinking and eating and drinking and drinking and eating. Good luck in school, I know you are already enjoying it. Remember, the longest journey begins with the first step, no matter what. Your walking man.
The rest of you, I wish that I could hang with all of you often. There were so many great individuals and personalities there. If I didnt pic on you it was either that I didnt like you or that I thought you couldnt take it....and I didnt like you
I would definitely come up to visit again if the opportunity presented it self. Thank you all for making this such a great event
If you come over I'll drive up to hang out!! (wait you didn't pick on me to much) Hmmmm, Anyways, you are a great teacher and a good person! Keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks for the kind words Mike.
The goofy adventures I have done pale in comparison to you becoming a Doctor.
The dedication, passion and persistence it takes to become a Doctor is an accomplishment!! Riding my motorbike around part of the world is just being lucky.
If you want to check out the photo's from our adventure they're at www.motobrothers.com
I was sorry to hear you weren't considering the NW for your internship. I could see hanging out more often. I enjoyed having a beer downtown Portland talking shit.
Your welcome here anytime.
John
Ya, OR is very affirmative action, and WA has military. PNW looks bad for me.
Military would be good for you. I can hook you up... And don't go spouting off about those department of transportation agency days over your low-hopps brew again.
Colonel, dont make me come over there
What town and when is the trans meet in northern Cal.
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