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Posted by: don9146 Mar 5 2004, 06:50 AM

I am just curious if anyone else had a problem with the ball fitting into the cup when you tried to attach the accelerator pedal? I have tried putting a little silicone lube on the cup, but it still hasn't worked. Any other ideas to try?

Thanks,
Don

Posted by: vsg914 Mar 5 2004, 07:08 AM

Don, I get a tight one every now and then(cable end that is) , I use a good amount of saliva and smack it hard with my fist. Works every time. Assuming the ball is the right size. They need to be tight to hold in place.

Posted by: larryp Mar 5 2004, 07:50 AM

Nah uh. I removed the rod, put it in the vise and laid the plastic thingie over it. And whaled on it with a mallet. Nothing. Not a fucking thing. All I did was bend the throttle rod

I finally cut the cup out of my old pedal and bolted THAT to the new one. Worked like a charm.

Posted by: vsg914 Mar 5 2004, 08:05 AM

Sorry guys, I misread the title as cable, not pedal.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 5 2004, 10:48 AM

Could we get a list of those who are having problems on this thread?

I could call the vendor and see if he has a solution, I know that they were working on one.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 5 2004, 11:19 AM

heat it up (the plastic part that is) using a blow-dryer.

that'll make the plastic a bit more flexible.
lube up the ball good and then pound it in.

if you don't heat it up, you have a good chance of cracking the plastic ...
Andy

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 5 2004, 11:45 AM

Maybe heat the plastic and freeze the ball/rod

Posted by: StratPlayer Mar 5 2004, 11:53 AM

Yep,,, mechanic broke the plastic piece, got a new one on the way,, if this doesn't work I'm gonna do what larryp did. I thought about trying that, glad someone did it and it works. Thought about putting a dremel to the plastic piece and see if I couldn't enlarge that hole just enought to get the ball in there tight.

Posted by: StratPlayer Mar 5 2004, 12:02 PM

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Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 5 2004, 12:16 PM

I have had trouble trying to get mine attached also. I could try the heating trick...if that doesn't work, who knows what I'll try next.

Posted by: McMark Mar 5 2004, 12:22 PM

Chris R. had the same problem on Monday here at the shop and when we looked closely at the plastic piece we noticed that the hole is completely the wrong size so you'll never get it to pop in and stay there. In other words, the plastic piece you all got is garbage.

Posted by: jfort Mar 5 2004, 02:14 PM

damn I am glad you guys posted this information. I was going to do the installation tomorrow. Now I don't know what to do.

Posted by: don9146 Mar 6 2004, 12:04 AM

I tried again. I heated the plastic, lubed the cup, and tapped the rod with a plastic hammer. Now I have a broken cup.
Who do I need to contact about getting another plastic piece for the back of the pedal? The old one is now useless.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 12:08 AM

1-949-494-3281
Talk with Mike

Let him know that you were part of the 914club deal.

Let me know if there are any problems, I still have the reciept for the whole deal, and also the info on your particular purchase.

I am probably going to remove the plastic part and adapt the stock part from my stock pedal, I will work on this tomorrow.

sorry bout the preoblems

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 12:10 AM

bdtwocars((((((((((@)))))))))hotmail((((((((dot))))))))com


is his email

Posted by: Howard Mar 6 2004, 12:42 AM

Tried mine on 2 different cars. Would not fit either. Did manage to bend pedal a bit using vise. If there's a quick and easy fix, I'll try it, but other than that they stay in the box.

Posted by: Freedom Mar 6 2004, 01:08 AM

that is a sexy pedal!!!...


i need a new one, if we are going to do this, but the base of the pedal is broken on mine so it sways like a fat guy on the dance floor!..

Posted by: ChrisReale Mar 6 2004, 01:30 AM

I broke mine trying to get it to fit.

Posted by: don9146 Mar 6 2004, 07:14 AM

>>1-949-494-3281
>>Talk with Mike
>>
>>Let him know that you were part of the 914club deal.
>>
>>Let me know if there are any problems, I still have the reciept for the whole deal, >>and also the info on your particular purchase.
>>
>>I am probably going to remove the plastic part and adapt the stock part from my >>stock pedal, I will work on this tomorrow.
>>
>>sorry bout the preoblems

I appreciate the help. Its definitely not your fault. Hell, I appreciate someone taking the time to put the group deal together for zero money and still trying to help everyone involved with their problems even though you have no ties to the company.
I am hoping for an amecable resolution to the situation, but if there are this many people on the board with the same problem, the company is probably aware of the issue and I will have "limited success" dealing with him . I WILL give the benefit of the doubt and I'll let the board know what happens when I get in touch with Mike.

Later,
Don

Posted by: Van914 Mar 6 2004, 07:34 AM

Why not sand the ball stud down? It may work.
Van914

Posted by: Ferg Mar 6 2004, 09:56 AM

think i was the first or second guy that broke his, he sent me a new piece but it looks too tight as well. I went to the hardware store bought some assorted plumbing clamps, and lucked out that one had the same bolt pattern to thread right to the pedal. No pic's yet and no test drive yet, but if feel it will be a better solution. I will try to explain what I did.
I bought a plumbing pipe clamp that has two sides or halfs 12 oclock and 6. One side has a threaded hole at 3 oclock. Took that side and the parts that would bring clamp together mount perfectly with corresponding holes in pedal, had to buy longer allen bolts to mount though. So if you can imagine looking at the pedal from the side, where the black piece would have stuck out the back, now a half moon sticks out.
I took the rod out, fashioned a little rubber grommet for the ball end and stuck the rod throught the pipe clamp so now the ball end is positioned between the pedal and inside the half of the pipe clamp with the shaft sticking through the hole I mentioned at 3 oclock. The shaft has just as much movement,and vitural mesurments stay the same. I know this sounds crazy and is hard to visulize, and i have not test drove yet, bad weather. but seems much stronder (all steel) and better than the plastic bit...
I promise pictures soon.
Ferg.

Posted by: Ferg Mar 6 2004, 11:52 AM

update:
just drove the car for 20 min... first time in over two months. my hack solution above seems to work good, but another problem has surfaced. The old stock rubber pedal, seemed like it was designed in a way that the rubber in the base also acted as sort of a return spring, and helped the pedal back when you took your foot off the gas, this new one without the rubber resistance is more likley to stick, and idle high...
A couple of times when I let off it would not come back all the way and the car would idle at about 1500., and it was noticable slower to decell between shifts.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 6 2004, 01:12 PM

make sure your pedal cluster is in good (clean & greased) shape.
add a second throttle-return spring on the engine side of things.

that should take care of the sticking pedal ...
Andy

Posted by: McMark Mar 6 2004, 02:10 PM

The pedal is not part of the proper operation of the throttle control system.

Posted by: StratPlayer Mar 6 2004, 03:52 PM

larryp, are you having trouble with your pedal returning to normal, does it stick?

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 6 2004, 03:57 PM

that sounds like a perfect solution to the problem

Posted by: jonwatts Mar 6 2004, 04:10 PM

It does, unless you have a perfectly good accelerator pedal you don't want to butcher.

What we need is someone with a supply of crapped out go-pedals that we can cannibalize. Most of them fail at the bottom joint, not at the ball-cup.

Anyone at HPH listening?

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 04:45 PM

I dont see how the plastic cup would work at all.

I have used the stock pedal cup attached to the beck of the pedal

there is about 2-2.5 inches of pedal travel on both he stock setup and the setup using the stock pedal cup and the alum. pedal

I cannot run it cuz bith my cars are non-op

I need to attach the stock cup better so it doesnt move

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 04:46 PM

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Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:47 PM

So is pent some more time affixing the stock cup to the alum pedal.

I cut the stock pedal down more and trimmed a recess in the back to fit in the aluminum pedals roundish- square area, I will be using two allen screws and lock nuts to keep them attached.

I moved the cup up about an inch to keep it the same as the stock position


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Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:48 PM

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Posted by: TimT Mar 6 2004, 05:48 PM

So I paid 70 something bucks for a part that doesnt work......

Im getting real tired of hearing

"well its a racing part so you have to modify it to work"

Someone programmed a mill to cut that nice looking pedal, couldnt they complete the job and make it receive the accelerator pushrod without any headaches?

Hank at GT racing really gets me worked up... Id love to have him come to my place and "well they just fit on" put on my flares...

It sucks that some of these manufacturer only go 7/8's through development... before they release a product..

can you tell this gets me worked up?

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:48 PM

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Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:52 PM

two more


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Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:53 PM

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Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 05:55 PM

it might look like hell but at least it works...


I agree Tim it seems as though it was not thought out well.

I wonder if the source for these is the same source that AJ-USA and the other vendors use. Or if this was a CNC knock off

Posted by: TimT Mar 6 2004, 05:55 PM

Maybe we should send them all back, and request a refund... we will do the manufacturer the favor of buying the product when they get it right?

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 6 2004, 06:04 PM

I have contacted Mike by email and will be calling him monday.

I am asking for a solution or refund for those who wish.


sorry about all the trouble

Posted by: TimT Mar 6 2004, 06:06 PM

Look identical to the AJ unit.. could be a knock off.. a customers car in my firends shop has th AJ pedals... same plastic block in the back....Ill sneak a peak at the pedal next time the car is in the shop..

Posted by: jonwatts Mar 7 2004, 01:29 AM

Not your fault, thanks for handling the purchase in the first place.

I'm interested in a correct replacement piece or a refund. I'm not going to cut up my good accelerator pedal to make up for a mistake.

Posted by: don9146 Mar 7 2004, 07:14 AM

>I have contacted Mike by email and will be calling him monday.
>
>I am asking for a solution or refund for those who wish.
>
>
>sorry about all the trouble


I won't contact Mike now since you already made the first move to get in touch with him. I will if you don't have any luck, though. Maybe you could point him towards this message thread to show him how many people are haveing problems.

Later,
Don

Posted by: larryp Mar 7 2004, 09:13 AM

Yes, mine "returns" fine; I agree, the pedal is simply not part of a functioning throttle spring system.

It does not "look like hell" since the bodge part is beneath the pedal! I suppose a mouse could see it.

I agree too that this is not the way it should be, but then, nothing else on my car has been a "bolt in" so why should this be any different?

Posted by: 9146986 Mar 7 2004, 09:32 AM

I'm fairly certain the original style 914 accel pedal is NLA (anyone please correct me if I'm wrong), so I would be reluctant to hack a good pedal up to make something that is supposed to work, work.

We compared the a new style all plastic 911 pedal (which can be easily modified to work on a 914) with the machined aluminum pedal (Don9146's part), and there wasn't any problem getting the push rod into the new style 911 pedal. The aluminum, no way. Someone hasn't done the homework on this. It looks very cool though.

Quote from aftermarket parts supplier whose part doesn't fit right "We can make it right just as easy as we can make it wrong", four years later they are still making it wrong!

PK

Posted by: Brad Roberts Mar 8 2004, 12:48 AM

I just read through this.. what a PAIN IN THE F-ING ASS.

I thought the pedal looked cool... but I have yet to have a OE fail me on the track or street.

I have to agree with PK on this one.. DO NOT cut up your OE pedal unless the hindge at the bottom is completely rusted out and flopping around.

Gotta love group buy's.. it really sucks when they turn into a group F-ing.


B

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 8 2004, 11:58 AM

The biggest point is they should have fit in the first place.

I have spoken with Mike and he is contacting the manufacturer for a functional replacement for the throttle mount.

I will post when I have more info.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 8 2004, 02:28 PM

Apparently they updated the design on the backing recently.

It sound like they are now using a soft plastic piece instead of hard plastic.

We WILL be getting the appropriate replacement for these soon.

What I need from the people who ordered is to please look at your peice and PM me if the plastic part is hard or soft.

Posted by: bernbomb914 Mar 8 2004, 03:20 PM

unfortuntialy it is the only thing that is HARD!!!!

Bernie

Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 8 2004, 03:22 PM

Man I thought I was getting screwed up the when I got my OE pedal for $125 Canadian!

Guess it was a fair deal seeing as it took me only 2 min. to replace it.

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 10 2004, 09:41 PM

echocanyons:

I bought my pedals from AJUSA (same exact part) about 1 month before the group buy started. I also have the hard backing on my accel pedal, and can not get the rod into the pedal's cup. Is there any way I can get a soft backing peice for my pedal (MUCH better than hacking up my old stock pedal)? Just let me know and we'll take it from there, thanks!

Posted by: TimT Mar 10 2004, 09:58 PM

Mine is hard

Posted by: ChrisReale Mar 10 2004, 10:01 PM

Mine was so hard I broke it

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 10 2004, 10:03 PM

I will talk with the vendor and see what we can work out about those who have not purchased through the group deal.
I am pretty sure it will be possible but I waill ahve to wait to find out the details
I'll add your name to the list Tim.

I should know the specifics by monday or tuesday.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 10 2004, 10:04 PM

Gotcha down as well Chris

Posted by: si2t3m Mar 11 2004, 07:49 AM

Mine is hard also. Real hard!!!

Marc-André

Posted by: jfort Mar 15 2004, 02:27 PM

mine is hard, too. never thought i'd say this, but i'd like a soft one to replace it

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 15 2004, 06:27 PM

I recieved an email from Mike today and he is sending me the replacement parts.

as soon as they arrive to me I will let the group know if it fits and I will then be sending them out if it works good.

thanks for all of your patience

Posted by: jonwatts Mar 15 2004, 06:39 PM

Excellent. Thank you for being a stand up guy and taking care of this. Make sure you don't take a loss for any additional postage to us bling blingers.

Posted by: seanery Mar 15 2004, 07:14 PM

Let us know if you need a buck or two fer sum stamps.

Posted by: iamchappy Mar 15 2004, 07:19 PM

Kelly, I would like to send you $ for the postage for the replacement piece. let me know when.

Posted by: TimT Mar 15 2004, 07:21 PM

Ya

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 15 2004, 09:24 PM

Thanks guys, lets wait until the piece gets to me.

I wanna make sure it'll actually work this time

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 22 2004, 04:51 PM

I havent forgot everyone with this replacement.

I checked the tracking and they should arrive to me tomorrow.

I will test fit and respond back to the list for feedback.

After that point if everything is OK I will ship out to everyone.

!!!thanks for everyones patience!!!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 22 2004, 05:13 PM

no, thank YOU for doing this!

Posted by: TimT Mar 22 2004, 05:14 PM

Cool!! Thanks for your efforts Kelly!!

Posted by: Jeroen Mar 22 2004, 07:03 PM

Kelly,

Your a class act!!!

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Bill Shaw Mar 22 2004, 07:41 PM

Kelly, you really went above and beyond on this. Kudos and many thanks!

Posted by: Duffster Mar 22 2004, 11:12 PM

and just when I was fixin' to get out my Dremel...

Thank You, Kelly!

Posted by: jdogg Mar 23 2004, 11:31 AM

with everybody. Thanks.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 23 2004, 09:19 PM

The adapters came today.

The rubber is more pliable but the hole is to small to accept the throttle rod ball .

I have contacted Mike again, I really hope to get this straightened out soon.

Sorry everyone...

Posted by: Malmz Mar 23 2004, 10:21 PM

Kelly,

Once resolved, will you be getting enough for everybody that originally purchased them or just the ones that piped up that they had a woody, errr, hard one? I haven't been following the thread and just caught up and will need one too, just need to know if I should go direct or not.

Thanks, and bummer about this whole situation.

sm

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 23 2004, 10:33 PM

Kelly,
Just PM me when you get the correct ones...I'm the guy that was unfortunate enough to buy the same pedals 2 weeks before the group buy, and am stuck w/ the hard part as well. Thanks!

Posted by: F4i Mar 23 2004, 11:59 PM

I bought before the group buy as well. I broke my pedal first and I think I have the same replacement part. I did get it to fit by heating the plastic in hot water and cooling the rod. It seems like it will work. Maybe try this with the new ones. I have not installed it in the car yet so I do not know how well it will hold up. If an even better solution comes along please let me know.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 24 2004, 06:49 AM

It sshouldnt be a problem to get extras if we can get some that will work, I will keep everyone updated.

Posted by: jfort Mar 24 2004, 09:14 AM

thanks for following-through on this, kelly. please keep me in the loop, too.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 24 2004, 06:40 PM

I spoke with Mike and he is confident that his supplier will be able to fix this, he will talk with him tomorrow(too late today)

It looks like he might have to redesign them in order to work properly.

I am hoping for a quick turn around on this but I will get a better idea on times tomorrow

Hang in there all this will work out

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 28 2004, 09:06 PM

Still waiting for confirmation of the changes made my the distributor and word on the production run.

I will post as soon as I know more

Posted by: F4i Mar 28 2004, 09:09 PM

Thanks for all the hard work. Sorry I helped get you into this. At leas Mike is being stand-up about this.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 28 2004, 09:10 PM

No worries....

I do have to say that Mike is a stand up guy and has really bent over backwards trying to get this thing fixed right.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 29 2004, 05:53 PM

New news.

The second batch sent to me will be going back and he will be resending shrotly after.

We should be looking at turn around time of less than two weeks again, but this should be the last hold.

Will those who were not part of the deal who wanted the working mounts email me please so I can get a number for the extras I need.

Posted by: jfort Apr 7 2004, 01:16 PM

any update? trying to decide whether or not to install the break and clutch pedals

Posted by: si2t3m Apr 7 2004, 01:49 PM

Many thanks for all the hard work you are doing.

It's really appreciated. I've not installed my pedals yet as the car is in storage. Plan was to take the dremel to the hard plastic thingy before breaking it.

But if a correct fit is to be had, i'll wait before destroying mine!

Thanks again

Marc-André

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 7 2004, 10:18 PM

All has not been forgotten(Im sorry if its sounding a little old).

The parts sent to me have been sent back and the fixed parts should be coming back to me very soon.

I will keep everyone updated as soon as I find out more.

THIS WILL GET RESOLVED

Posted by: Jeroen Apr 8 2004, 03:34 AM

Hey Kelly,

No stress!!!
Thanks a lot for taking care of us all

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: jonwatts Apr 8 2004, 09:02 AM

Yep, no hurry here. I can handle a few more F'ups. In fact I have a strange suspicion that this next batch of parts won't work either. Should we start a betting pool?

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 8 2004, 09:46 AM

well Im hopin they actually test the next batch before they send them to me.

we will see I guess

Posted by: fiid Apr 12 2004, 10:51 AM

Hey,

I have been out of the loop for a while - what is the latest status with the pedal cup problem??

Fiid.

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 12 2004, 10:56 AM

they should be showing up to me any day.

then I will test them and hopefully send them out

Posted by: Rich Bontempi Apr 12 2004, 10:59 PM

FYI = The OE new original pedal is still available, we sell a lot of them.

Posted by: Jeroen Apr 25 2004, 06:30 PM

Just curious... any news yet???

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: 9146986 Apr 25 2004, 08:34 PM

Really? I thought that the factory 914 pedal was NLA! How much Rich?


PK

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 26 2004, 03:39 PM

Sorry for the silence

I just arrived back form a short trip.

Mike has test fit the new pieces and they should have been shipped to me late last week.

I should see them real soon then I will start to send them out.

Posted by: Jeroen Apr 26 2004, 03:45 PM

Hey Kelly,

Thanks for the info.
Like I said before, no pressure, just curious.

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 26 2004, 04:48 PM

I feel really bad that it has taken this long but its kind of out of my hands until they arrive to me.

I appreciate everyones understanding and patience!

Posted by: echocanyons May 5 2004, 05:50 PM

They replacements arrived to me today!

I have test fit a few and they fit pretty good.

They will go out in the mail this friday


Thanks for hanging in there everyone.

Posted by: Jeroen May 5 2004, 05:56 PM

Kelly, you rule

Please let me know what the shipping cost are and I will paypal the amount

Thanks!!!

Jeroen

Posted by: TimT May 5 2004, 06:03 PM

Good news.... I was just thinking about the pedal today...

Posted by: echocanyons May 5 2004, 06:41 PM

I should have said they fit like they should, dont misunderstand my post and think they wont work because they are very study when attached to the throttle ball rod

I am sure glad this finally worked out.

Posted by: Korijo May 5 2004, 08:48 PM

I just re read the thread. I was in on the group buy, but never requested the replacement part.

Is one available for me ?

Posted by: echocanyons May 5 2004, 08:55 PM

Sorry Dave your SOL


I got yours, the whole thing went down while you were in europe

Posted by: Korijo May 5 2004, 08:57 PM

sweet...

thanks again, kelly

Posted by: nein14 May 6 2004, 11:37 AM

Any pedal sets left, if so I would like to buy a set.
Thanks

Posted by: echocanyons May 6 2004, 11:53 AM

Unfortunately they are no longer available for the price that we paid for the group buy but they are available still.

email me I can set you up with a discounted price


Kelly

Posted by: roundboy914 May 6 2004, 01:33 PM

oops, i failed to ask for a replacement as well, any chance of getting one sent out??

Posted by: echocanyons May 6 2004, 05:10 PM

Roundboy I got you too.

Honestly, I asked for replacements for all who participated in the deal.


For those who did not participate in the deal I have some info.

Mike at Bestdeal has the proper fitting mount and they are available for 8.00USD

I do ask that you contact him to take care of this.

his info is

bdtwocars --at-- hotmail.com

phone 1-949-494-3281

Tell him I sent you and he will know what you are talking about

Posted by: F4i May 6 2004, 05:35 PM

Good job. thanks for the work!

Posted by: jfort May 7 2004, 08:34 AM

great job, kelly.

let us know what the postage is

Posted by: echocanyons May 13 2004, 02:08 PM

Hi group,

I havent sent the replacements out because I was waiting to get all of the addresses updated.

They will all go out tomorrow.

Posted by: Jeroen May 27 2004, 05:29 AM

Hey Kelly,

I got the new parts yesterday. Thanks a bunch!!!
I'll paypal you the shipping costs a.s.a.p.

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Malmz May 27 2004, 08:40 AM

First things first, kudos to Kelly for seeing this thorugh and all the effort and extra effort.

Second, It looks like the ball cups will work now since they are larger, just that their method for enlargement seems a bit cheezy. Looks like they just ground out some existing plastic parts instead of remolding the part to cleanly fix the problem for all future buyers of their product. Maybe everybody's doesn't look the same, mine has quite a bit of flashing and is definitely not a smooth ball cup.

Just a critique of the product, and again, it should function fine...


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Posted by: jonwatts May 27 2004, 10:09 AM

Yep, mine looks the same but it should work. I think someone just got schooled in Product Development 101.