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Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 30 2009, 08:47 PM

I have a few of the outie tranz drain plugs and want to get some more, but all of the replacement parts are innies. WTF? In the PET many models with p/n 999 064 019 02 and 020 02 are outies so you can use a wrench on them and be happy. No 17mm allen needed. All of the suppliers I found had the same damn allen plugs assigned to the old part number. If I could find some I would buy a bunch and offer them on all of my rebuilds.

Here is a pic of what I want next to two of the old type that I had to drill out (fun and awesome)


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Posted by: bandjoey Jun 30 2009, 08:53 PM

I'll take a couple! I've been trying on and off for a year to get mine out..no luck! Bill

Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 30 2009, 09:26 PM

So are you selling them?

Posted by: banger Jun 30 2009, 10:26 PM

What is the thread size? You can get 20mm dia X 30mm bolts from mcmaster carr, which should work, and are easier to get...

Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 30 2009, 10:34 PM

The thread is NPT so it is tapered. The problem I am having with the standards is that they are soft and people keep tightening them down flush which is way to much.

Posted by: r_towle Jun 30 2009, 10:36 PM

If that is NPT, go to a plumbing supply house...there must be a real plumbing supply place near you...NOT home depot...

That is a standard gas fitting stopper.

Rich

Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 30 2009, 10:44 PM

Well, maybe not NPT, but a tapered fitting. Is there a metric version of NPT? I will check the good hardware store tomorrow

Posted by: kwales Jul 1 2009, 11:31 AM

Got one of those metric thread checkers?

Got one with my Sears tap and die set and have used it a lot.

Posted by: JWest Jul 1 2009, 01:24 PM

It is M24 x 1.5 tapered.

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 1 2009, 03:21 PM

Thanks, James No luck at the hardware store

Posted by: 914Sixer Jul 1 2009, 04:48 PM

Here is 3 shots of a NOS drain plug. I have no idea where I got it from. I will ship it to you if you need it to locate others with.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 1 2009, 05:02 PM

PM sent

Posted by: wilchek Jul 1 2009, 06:47 PM

Mike,

if you don't find something give these guys a call. http://www.readingfoundry.com/index.html

If not the foundry try these guys http://www.clarkindustrialsupply.com/

Posted by: jaxdream Jul 2 2009, 09:52 AM

Have you tryed welding a suitable bolt to the plug to remove it vs drilling and easy outting ??
The heat should help break it loose some .

Jaxdream

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 2 2009, 11:08 AM

I dont weld, the HOA frowns on it

I MAP gassed the plugs for a while and they did not budge. Drilling them out was the best, safest, quickest bet. I hate doing it, but it works.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Jul 2 2009, 01:26 PM

If finding the correct " outie " plug is impossible what about having " innies " welded with a short section of allen wrench in them? That would turn them into outies correct? Have the section of allen wrench protrude aprox. 3/4 - 1 inch so you can put a socket on it?

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 2 2009, 02:35 PM

Time + resources + $$ = Not on a scale of more than 2

Posted by: jsayre914 Jul 2 2009, 04:50 PM

i just typed what he said into my browser and found this, if that helps

http://efc-capsandplugs.com/productspec.asp?56,136,04A299

Posted by: kwales Jul 2 2009, 08:05 PM

Yowzers.....

Are we getting close????

http://seawaybolt.com/din.html

Hmmm... that's frickin weird... I can't post an internet linky like I used to....

"you must enter a URL before posting a linky"....

Must be the new XP and Explorer 8.....

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 2 2009, 08:15 PM

Thats it! I wonder how much or how big an order?

Posted by: ArtechnikA Jul 2 2009, 09:10 PM

Every 911 ( and 914.6 ) transmission used those, through at least the 915.
Embedded magnet and everything...
I bet every Porsche dismantler in the world has a bucket full of them.

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 2 2009, 10:16 PM

Ya, I know they did. I hadnt thought about dismantlers, though. Maybe I will give them a call. I kinda doubt it, though as these are no pieces in high demand. (yet)

Posted by: kwales Jul 2 2009, 10:42 PM

Hmmmm.....

Factory Parts book sez....

VerschluBschraube (closing screw) PN 999.064.007.2 fur Alle (including -6)

and VerschluBschrabe mit Magnet PN 999.064.008.2 fur sportomatic

Hope that helps...

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 2 2009, 11:56 PM

Huh, PET has different part numbers. I wonder.

Posted by: kwales Jul 3 2009, 09:19 AM

I'm using a yellowed 1974 vintage factory parts manual that hasn't been updated. The PET has updated numbers that may be later substitutes.

Looked at the sporto tranny page in the parts manual and it actually has an enlarged picture that shows the plugs as having hex male heads with the same .007 and .008 numbers....

I'd check the dealer or another source for those 999.xxxx part numbers to see if they have them or can get them. At the least you could get a max price.

Posted by: kwales Jul 3 2009, 09:30 AM

Here's another source for m24-1.5 tapered plugs under piping.....

https://www.fastenersclearinghouse.com/fch/main.nsf/fSearch?OpenForm&Start=1&type=R&Cat1=PRM7959227D3714;&Cat2=&Cat3=&Cat4=&Cat5=M24-1.50&Cat6=&Cat7=

They have them in stock, list a $25 minimum order, and a minimum line item value of $2.00....

It also appears that a M24 1.5 thread is used on oil pan drains... not sure if it is tapered or not....