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Posted by: schreiber Aug 1 2009, 06:14 PM
In this thread: Show pictures of your dual Weber setups. The more detail, the better.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 1 2009, 06:18 PM
this is how a bad setup looks... unfortunately, it's mine 
Posted by: Scott Schroeder Aug 1 2009, 07:25 PM
mine ...
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Posted by: MDG Aug 1 2009, 08:22 PM
here's my dual webers 
Posted by: craig downs Aug 2 2009, 01:03 AM
Here some dual Dells
Posted by: zymurgist Aug 2 2009, 09:11 AM
here's my dual webers
I see what you did there.
Posted by: t collins Aug 2 2009, 10:18 AM
My Dells
Posted by: MDG Aug 2 2009, 11:00 AM
I see what you did there.
What . . . you can't just duct tape off #3 and #6?
Posted by: r_towle Aug 2 2009, 01:07 PM
mine ...
Scott,
I know this is a pain to do, but would you consider taking a picture of the exact port you are using for the vacuum advance line.
The port on the carb please...close so I can get the idea.
Also, what distributor part number is that, and what are your experiences with it?
Using an optical sensor, or points?
What plugs?
What MSD unit?
Rich
Posted by: rfuerst911sc Aug 2 2009, 01:22 PM
Here are mine. 
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Posted by: J P Stein Aug 2 2009, 01:50 PM
Hee.hee, I can play. Real carbs have 3 throats.
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Posted by: zx-niner Aug 2 2009, 02:21 PM
Here's a before and after.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 2 2009, 02:39 PM
My DellsHow did you do this? Drill and tap the arms?
I need to do the same thing with mine.
Zach
Posted by: r_towle Aug 2 2009, 03:19 PM
My DellsHow did you do this? Drill and tap the arms?
I need to do the same thing with mine.
Zach
That is a bell crank linkage and it uses the ball on the carb linkage.
RIch
Posted by: r_towle Aug 2 2009, 03:20 PM
Hee.hee, I can play. Real carbs have 3 throats.
Careful mR2 man....you will need to tone down all your nasty remarks....
You be moving into a whole new camp.
Rich
Posted by: t collins Aug 2 2009, 06:39 PM
My DellsHow did you do this? Drill and tap the arms?
I need to do the same thing with mine.
Zach
Hey Zach,
Exactly, it should help reduce the linkage from operating at an angle and pushing back aginst the carb.
Posted by: carr914 Aug 2 2009, 08:37 PM
Posted by: carr914 Aug 2 2009, 08:39 PM
Posted by: puff adder Aug 2 2009, 08:48 PM
50's
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Posted by: J P Stein Aug 2 2009, 09:01 PM
Hee.hee, I can play. Real carbs have 3 throats.
Careful mR2 man....you will need to tone down all your nasty remarks....
You be moving into a whole new camp.
Rich
At present it looks as if I may be a Maita man....without the rainbow or = stickie.
Any on wanna buy a rare all stock 93 MR 2 Turbo? It may be the last one left in
the USofA.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 2 2009, 09:14 PM
How did you do this? Drill and tap the arms?
I need to do the same thing with mine.
That is a bell crank linkage and it uses the ball on the carb linkage.
I know that, silly.
I've got the same linkage. The issue is that the bar between the linkage and the carb butterfly lever is at an angle. In fact, they are at slightly different angles. If you use the provided holes in the linkage arms, you will not get a 90 degree drop on either side, and the carbs don't stay perfectly synched through the rev range.Zach
Posted by: racerbvd Aug 2 2009, 09:21 PM
Posted by: carr914 Aug 2 2009, 09:29 PM
Byron, What are those Dizzy's you've got on there
T.C.
Posted by: racerbvd Aug 2 2009, 09:34 PM
Byron, What are those Dizzy's you've got on there
T.C.
964 converted to 3.0... The Webers are 46s
Posted by: t collins Aug 3 2009, 05:23 AM
How did you do this? Drill and tap the arms?
I need to do the same thing with mine.
That is a bell crank linkage and it uses the ball on the carb linkage.
I know that, silly.
I've got the same linkage. The issue is that the bar between the linkage and the carb butterfly lever is at an angle. In fact, they are at slightly different angles. If you use the provided holes in the linkage arms, you will not get a 90 degree drop on either side, and the carbs don't stay perfectly synched through the rev range.Zach
They're both parallle, its just the angle of the picture that is making it look out of plumb.
Posted by: neil30076 Aug 3 2009, 10:13 AM
In this thread: Show pictures of your dual Weber setups. The more detail, the better.
Dual 40 IDF's - CB Crossbar kit, with extension on passenger side throttle linkage to keep them parallel and sync'd.
Posted by: Kargeek Aug 3 2009, 01:28 PM
Dells with reversed CB crossbar linkage.
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Posted by: naro914 Aug 3 2009, 04:56 PM
PMO's in Huey (now in Papa Smurf)
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Posted by: Mark Henry Aug 5 2009, 11:39 AM
Cargeeks is the best linkage so far, but still a bit too much angle on those droplinks for me.
Found this ad on the samba, I had to laugh....build the f'in linkage right in the first place and you don't need this shit! (Sorry Type 1 again)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=786740
Posted by: schreiber Aug 14 2009, 10:15 PM
I'm interested in seeing these type linkage setups in more detail - this is the same type I've got.
Posted by: martinef1963 Aug 16 2009, 06:11 AM
This car ran for about 5-minutes after the engine rebuild. After posting this same picture back in 2007 many of the carb set ups on this post mentioned the set up was not the best. "Money Pit" is still on jacks.
One day I'll finish my contracting work in Afghanistan to finish her up; she will rock!
Fern
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 16 2009, 09:10 AM
This car ran for about 5-minutes after the engine rebuild. After posting this same picture back in 2007 many of the carb set ups on this post mentioned the set up was not the best. "Money Pit" is still on jacks.
One day I'll finish my contracting work in Afghanistan to finish her up; she will rock!
Fern
I had that same set up, you can never get the links to go right. they stick out way too far.
CB linkagewas better, but we modified it, too... moved the drop links closer to the carbs and lowered the bar lower than the lowest pre drilled hole, now it is 90 degrees at the top and bottom. very straight
Posted by: lotus_65 Aug 16 2009, 10:29 AM
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/pmpre/pm.cgi?login=paul_bellefleur&action=display&
someone here makes a nice pivot linkage I'd like to try, like the cb setup. i think it would be better than the hex bar.
Posted by: jmill Aug 16 2009, 10:58 AM
The issue is that the bar between the linkage and the carb butterfly lever is at an angle. In fact, they are at slightly different angles. If you use the provided holes in the linkage arms, you will not get a 90 degree drop on either side, and the carbs don't stay perfectly synched through the rev range.
Zach
There is alot of talk about getting a 90 degree drop. I hate to say this but it'll never happen. You might be able to get 90 degrees at one throttle position but thats it. The hex bar spins in an arc and your looking for a right angle. You can't get there from here. Whats important is that both linkage arms are the same length and at the same angle relative to one another. That way the arm travels the same distance on either side. If you get that correct the carbs will stay synced through the entire range.
Posted by: jaxdream Aug 16 2009, 11:37 PM
I believe that is called the sidewinder linkage kit.it's set up similar to a 69 VW type3 I had with dual solex carbs, a side twist linkage setup that bolted onto one of the case rib bolts. Had small ( 4mm IIRC ) left and right threaded ends for adjusting the carb butterflies / throttle plates linkage bars. Just had to get them bouth the right length + / - a few threads. Wasn't real hard to get them both synced with an old unisyn . 
Jaxdream
Posted by: pilothyer Aug 18 2009, 08:19 AM
I'm interested in seeing these type linkage setups in more detail - this is the same type I've got.
Jacob....here are a few for you, hope they help.....Jerry
Posted by: Dominic Aug 18 2009, 08:36 AM
Picture of my DTM bell crank linkage from Aircooled Technology
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Posted by: Cevan Aug 18 2009, 09:51 AM
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C31%2D129%2D941%2D400
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 18 2009, 10:55 AM
I'm interested in seeing these type linkage setups in more detail - this is the same type I've got.
Jacob....here are a few for you, hope they help.....Jerry
how is your Carbs sideways?
Posted by: pilothyer Aug 18 2009, 01:03 PM
Hi Wayne......I believe that was a pair of Weber 34 ICT carbs (single barrel) with the air cleaner adapter plate modified to fit them then turned sideways........Jerry
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 18 2009, 01:17 PM
ahh, ok.
Posted by: r_towle Aug 18 2009, 02:36 PM
Take a look at some artwork here.
http://www.yunis.de/klaus5/en/AST_en.asp
Rich
Posted by: lotus_65 Aug 18 2009, 06:46 PM
Picture of my DTM bell crank linkage from Aircooled Technology
are those tb's http://extrudabody.com/
Posted by: Mr.Nobody Apr 21 2016, 06:07 PM
Bump, because I want to see more peoples setups.
Here's what I've accumulated thus far. 
They carbs are currently being ultrasonic and hot washed. Pump and pressure gauge are on order and also have a Holley FPR.
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Apr 21 2016, 06:36 PM
This is going to sound like a total dick comment, but I promise I don't mean for it to....
Dellorto air cleaner covers but Weber carbs?
FWIW, I will tell you after having seen a few of these after all the rebuilds I've done... The chrome air cleaners, I mean, every. last. one. of them. I've seen rusts within 2-3 months. I don't personally care much about looks, but I know there are better options out there, in case you do. Finally, if you have a hard time with that hex bar linkage, consider Chris's cable linkage setup which can be found on his website, tangerineracing.com. Once you switch you'll wonder how you ever did without it. Not trying to dissuade you, just giving you a couple things I learned the hard way. Rock on! 
Posted by: bretth Apr 21 2016, 07:46 PM
How about my Zeniths just because. Hope to put them to good use in the not too distant future.
Brett
Posted by: poorsche914 Apr 21 2016, 09:23 PM
NOS 44IDF Webers with Raby Sync-Link
Posted by: raw1298 Apr 21 2016, 09:52 PM
Not sure of brand, but it was free.
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Posted by: Mr.Nobody Apr 21 2016, 11:03 PM
This is going to sound like a total dick comment, but I promise I don't mean for it to....
Dellorto air cleaner covers but Weber carbs?
FWIW, I will tell you after having seen a few of these after all the rebuilds I've done... The chrome air cleaners, I mean, every. last. one. of them. I've seen rusts within 2-3 months. I don't personally care much about looks, but I know there are better options out there, in case you do. Finally, if you have a hard time with that hex bar linkage, consider Chris's cable linkage setup which can be found on his website, tangerineracing.com. Once you switch you'll wonder how you ever did without it. Not trying to dissuade you, just giving you a couple things I learned the hard way. Rock on!
Not a dick comment at all. I get your thoughts.
The Del filters just happen to have been apart of a really good deal with the carbs, and linkage. They'll work and really that's all that should matter, but I agree it's pretty hokey to run them with the Webers. I have another plan for them if I can't find another set soon enough. In short, hopefully they're temporary.
I've read a lot about the Tangerine setup. It's on the list, but dropping the coin now isn't the easiest. I get that I'll never look back, but buying it is easier said than done. Another hopefully sooner rather than later.
All that said, I'M STOKED
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 21 2016, 11:47 PM
No play in the linkage. Both throttles open to wot at the same rate. Extensive mods. of an originally crappy system. Works great.
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Posted by: era vulgaris Apr 22 2016, 12:33 PM
DRLA40'S on a 2270
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Posted by: Starlack Apr 22 2016, 12:57 PM
OK
here is a Picture of my Engine with Weber Carbs.
Posted by: MarkV Apr 22 2016, 02:29 PM
Posted by: jacquot Apr 25 2016, 01:36 PM
dual weber 44 idf, overall 
throttle cable from above
and below
Posted by: forrestkhaag Apr 25 2016, 02:13 PM
/The beauty of this system is simplicity and three-way redundant throttle return springs to eliminate the possibility of an over-rev.... (Ask Larmo about the single spring failure.......) one spring at each carb and one in the center of the cable attachment area.
Also, when tuning the carbs one screw takes all pressure off the linkage on both carbs and the same screw puts it all back together when all is balanced.
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