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Posted by: toolguy May 17 2011, 11:00 AM

OK My Homeowner Association, AKA the neighborhood Nazis, want me to stop the restoration of my car so unless I want a legal battle, it's for sale. . . this was a complete and running , original SIX, 4 months ago. . . Its now all apart and the chassis is on a rotisserie. It has been stripped and is now ready for top paint. . the under body, pan and fenderwells are finished and painted. . the engine ran fine, shifted properly, everything worked . . . . rarely driven. Speedo now at 22 k miles- It was un-driven and stored from 1995 to 2008. . . . It had $12K in shop work 3 years ago [ less than 300 miles since] to bring all maintenance up to date[receipt avail] and return to service.
This is a numbers matching, original 1970 043 factory silver metallic car. Located in San Diego, always a So Cal car.
$28000
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Posted by: carr914 May 17 2011, 11:12 AM

Why don't you rent a storage space or small garage - that way you can finish it, keep it or allow you to more easily get your price

T.C.

Posted by: Gustl May 17 2011, 11:13 AM

would you mind telling us the complete VIN ?
do you have a COA to proove it's matching numbers ?

Posted by: JmuRiz May 17 2011, 11:25 AM

Don't let the HOA scare you, they typically have little-to-no actual power.

Posted by: Dirty Evo May 17 2011, 01:35 PM

GL with sale. free bump. And you just made me SO GLAD that my wife and i did not settle for a house or land in a community with CCnRs.

Posted by: mrgjones May 17 2011, 02:02 PM

No house is worth it. Just move.

Posted by: pete000 May 17 2011, 02:27 PM

Wow that has got to hurt to get this close. Have you considered having a restoration shop just finish it up? Might be worth it.

Posted by: avidfanjpl May 18 2011, 01:10 AM

PM Sent

John

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 18 2011, 06:11 AM

There is no way that I would let a HOA force me to stop working on a car. Move the job into the garage and keep the door shut until it is back on its wheels and it is none of their business.

On the flip side, someone will get a nice six that has had all of the hard work done. Some assembly require, no battery included.

Good luck and I hope it stays in sunny CA but moves northerly.

Posted by: Mike Fitton May 18 2011, 08:53 AM

Is price for car as it is? In unfinished state.

Posted by: sean_v8_914 May 18 2011, 10:01 AM

wow, that is horrible news. I know you were all jazzed up about getting back into it.
Let me know if I can help in any way. I do have storage space available inside

Posted by: 396 May 18 2011, 01:58 PM

pm sent

Posted by: Tom_T May 18 2011, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ May 17 2011, 10:25 AM) *

Don't let the HOA scare you, they typically have little-to-no actual power.


Not true Nathan, if it's written into the CC&Rs (Codes, Covenants & Restrictions) then it's a restriction on the property just as would be an easement & they can take him to court for enforcement.

Toolguy - you've got some options to consider, esp. with Sean offering space to you. I say keep it & work on her away from home! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: sixnotfour May 18 2011, 08:17 PM

WOW !!

Posted by: rick 918-S May 19 2011, 04:48 AM

This isn't the first time I've read this about HOA. I don't get why someone would give up control of their personal space to a bunch of busy body nazi commie's. Who's paying the mortgage? Let them try to sue you. By the time they get the thing to court the car will be finished. icon_bump.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 19 2011, 07:16 AM

I understand and appreciate HOA's that keep people from parking RV's and ski boats in their driveway year 'round. Or who want to paint their house red or purple. Or who just store crap in their front yard and drive down property values and make the quality of life decline because of their inconsiderate attitudes.

However, if your car is in your garage I say screw them. So long as you are not in violation of any noise restrictions, typically after 10PM and before 7:30 AM, you should be OK. Especially for short term work on a project. It is not like you are working 40 hours a week 50+ weeks a year on cars, right?

Finally, try to find out who the complaining party is and what specifically they are upset about and try to resolve that issue. If not, shut the garage door so they do not know what you are doing.

Good luck-please do not sell your car because of this kind of BS.

Posted by: mepstein May 19 2011, 07:41 AM

Some of them have clauses about non running cars, on or in the property. I don't agree with that but I live non developement anyway. Maybe you could fight it with a lawyer but maybe life is too short to get into that kind of hassle and expence.

I would take lots of pics and inventory the parts to show all that's included and take Sean up on his offer for space if your running out of time at your property.

Personally, I might like a project like yours over a running car because I can see exactly what I'm buying.

Or pay to have it painted and have a 914world assembly party.

Or let me pick up and make monthly payments idea.gif
I'll be in San Diego next week.

Mark

Posted by: toolguy May 19 2011, 07:58 AM

BIG UPDATE> > and thanks for all the interest. . . I had a meeting with the HOA. . . the current complaint was for sanding and painting. . . Yeah, I sort of expected that but it took a twist in my favor. . . so when the Board of the HOA made the decision that painting and sanding was not allowed, the didn't think it out. . . after listening to their dribble, I said. . . so I'm painting a little car right. . . and for the past 25 years you have allowed every owner to have their house repainted, that's ok ?? and those painters use sprayers. . . the same with stucco blasting and recoatings. . . asked them to point out the difference and they just looked at each other. . . . so I made a formal notification that any future painting of homes and their trim in the HOA could not be done with a sprayer or I would file a suit.

The property manager ended up by saying that I shouldn't do it again. . . Yeah, right . so for now I'm off the hook and back to work on the car.. .

PS. . . HOA's seem like a good idea for the right reasons, but when run by narrow sighted old ladies, it becomes a political agenda for their own self interest . .

Posted by: mepstein May 19 2011, 08:01 AM

biggrin.gif Love it!

Posted by: RiqueMar May 19 2011, 08:21 AM

Toolguy: Glad to hear the HOAs are off your back, they can be realy Nazis about the smallest things. Just for your reference, in case they try to come back and say it's the law, it isn't.

In the State of California, you are allowed to paint/sand your car outside IF it is your own car. We went through this recently with one of our cars, a neighbor complained, and it turns out it is legal as long as you are not doing it for profit.

Hope to see this /6 in person sometime soon!

Posted by: ewdysar May 19 2011, 09:52 AM

That's great news, Toolguy!

I couldn't believe that a project like yours could be derailed by an HOA to the point of having to get rid of the car. Nice argument and I agree that the goal is to delay any actions long enough to get the car back on her wheels.

It's a beautiful project and can't wait to see the finished result.

Posted by: 396 May 19 2011, 06:24 PM

QUOTE(toolguy @ May 19 2011, 06:58 AM) *

BIG UPDATE> > and thanks for all the interest. . . I had a meeting with the HOA. . . the current complaint was for sanding and painting. . . Yeah, I sort of expected that but it took a twist in my favor. . . so when the Board of the HOA made the decision that painting and sanding was not allowed, the didn't think it out. . . after listening to their dribble, I said. . . so I'm painting a little car right. . . and for the past 25 years you have allowed every owner to have their house repainted, that's ok ?? and those painters use sprayers. . . the same with stucco blasting and recoatings. . . asked them to point out the difference and they just looked at each other. . . . so I made a formal notification that any future painting of homes and their trim in the HOA could not be done with a sprayer or I would file a suit.

The property manager ended up by saying that I shouldn't do it again. . . Yeah, right . so for now I'm off the hook and back to work on the car.. .

PS. . . HOA's seem like a good idea for the right reasons, but when run by narrow sighted old ladies, it becomes a political agenda for their own self interest . .



Great news... ok .. keep it up smile.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 20 2011, 07:14 AM

Congratulations. Nice to see it all worked out. Quick thinking on your feet too by drawing the analogy to house painting, etc.

I look forward to seeing the build thread.

Posted by: avidfanjpl May 26 2011, 07:36 PM

Yeah, this is a REALLY good one that got away, but now that he can finish it, that is pure excitement!

JEALOUS, but happy for you!

John

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