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914World.com _ FS/WANTED: 914 Cars and Rollers _ FS: Black 1970 914/6
Posted by: gcrotvik Sep 16 2014, 12:48 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191331913833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_70wt_1026
Not completely stock. 2 L center console, adjustable passenger seat, 75/76 carpet, late rear valance, non-stock mirrors, rounded edge rear bumper +
Posted by: two914-6s Sep 16 2014, 01:28 PM
looks pretty clean
Posted by: davep Sep 16 2014, 01:52 PM
VIN 9140431733
Asking $80K
Posted by: mettelman Sep 16 2014, 01:55 PM
he posted a very nice video, too
vimeo.com/106082820
Posted by: Hawk Sep 16 2014, 03:10 PM
Many 6s of late in the $60-80K asking/selling range depending on originality, preservation, upgrade etc.
Using Hagerty's condition scheme, how would you classify this car? #2 or #3? Given non-original elements and repaint?
Condition Ratings
#1 vehicles in Hagerty Price Guide are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best car, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the car has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 cars is "concours."
#2 cars could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 cars that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and interior will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine compartment. The vehicle will drive as a new car of its era would. The one word description for #2 cars is "excellent."
#3 cars could possess some, but not all of the issues of a #4 car, but they will be balanced by other factors such as a fresh paint job or a new, correct interior. #3 cars drive and run well, but might have some incorrect parts. These cars are not used for daily transportation but are ready for a long tour without excuses, and the casual passerby will not find any visual flaws. "Good" is the one word description of a Hagerty Price Guide #3.
#4 cars are daily drivers, with flaws visible to the naked eye. The chrome might have pitting or scratches, the windshield might be chipped. Paintwork is imperfect, and perhaps the fender has a minor dent. The interior could have split seams or a cracked dash. No major parts are missing, but the wheels could differ from the originals, or the interior might not be stock. A #4 car can also be a deteriorated restoration. "Fair" is the one word that describes a Hagerty Price Guide #4 car.
Posted by: malcolm2 Sep 16 2014, 03:15 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191331913833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_70wt_1026
Not completely stock. 2 L center console, adjustable passenger seat, 75/76 carpet, late rear valance, non-stock mirrors, rounded edge rear bumper +
I noticed a few of those too. He will need to get a pretty penny for this car with all the marketing he has done. Beautiful car for sure.
Posted by: patrick3000 Sep 16 2014, 04:32 PM
Many 6s of late in the $60-80K asking/selling range depending on originality, preservation, upgrade etc.
Using Hagerty's condition scheme, how would you classify this car? #2 or #3? Given non-original elements and repaint?
Condition Ratings
#1 vehicles in Hagerty Price Guide are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best car, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the car has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 cars is "concours."
#2 cars could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 cars that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and interior will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine compartment. The vehicle will drive as a new car of its era would. The one word description for #2 cars is "excellent."
#3 cars could possess some, but not all of the issues of a #4 car, but they will be balanced by other factors such as a fresh paint job or a new, correct interior. #3 cars drive and run well, but might have some incorrect parts. These cars are not used for daily transportation but are ready for a long tour without excuses, and the casual passerby will not find any visual flaws. "Good" is the one word description of a Hagerty Price Guide #3.
#4 cars are daily drivers, with flaws visible to the naked eye. The chrome might have pitting or scratches, the windshield might be chipped. Paintwork is imperfect, and perhaps the fender has a minor dent. The interior could have split seams or a cracked dash. No major parts are missing, but the wheels could differ from the originals, or the interior might not be stock. A #4 car can also be a deteriorated restoration. "Fair" is the one word that describes a Hagerty Price Guide #4 car.
Number 3
Posted by: gcrotvik Sep 16 2014, 04:41 PM
Yes, 3 by definition but maybe somewhere in between 2 an 3. 2.5?
Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 16 2014, 06:46 PM
Yes, 3 by definition but maybe somewhere in between 2 an 3. 2.5?
Uh, how about the cottage cheese passenger front wheel house ?.....painted flat black.
Posted by: Hawk Sep 16 2014, 08:20 PM
Oops just viewed the video. Wrong rear bumper and valance. Falling rapidly in originality class. Let's see what the market says its worth.
Posted by: rwjames Sep 16 2014, 08:21 PM
I am in the Louisville/Prospect area for a few days if a serious buyer wants me to take a quick look at it. I have seen this car many years ago.
I would take $80K for my 1970 Tangerine 2 time Parade class & division winning car. Window sticker, tool kit, factory spare parts kit, binder full of records included.......Any takers? I will be standing by waiting for the offers to begin rolling in.
Posted by: geshaghi Sep 16 2014, 08:42 PM
I would take $80K for my 1970 Tangerine 2 time Parade class & division winning car. Window sticker, tool kit, factory spare parts kit, binder full of records included.......Any takers? I will be standing by waiting for the offers to begin rolling in.
I may have a buyer for your car if you're serious....
Posted by: Hawk Sep 17 2014, 03:31 AM
I would take $80K for my 1970 Tangerine 2 time Parade class & division winning car. Window sticker, tool kit, factory spare parts kit, binder full of records included.......Any takers? I will be standing by waiting for the offers to begin rolling in.
I may have a buyer for your car if you're serious....
Sir, in this market and based on priors, your fine car if a #1 condition is likely worth over $100,000. Hold it, it's money appreciating.
Posted by: toolguy Sep 17 2014, 07:53 AM
Black was not a 1970 color. . wonder what it really was/
This is a #3 at best considering all the non originality. .
Posted by: sbsix Sep 17 2014, 10:25 AM
If I remember correctly, black was an option on '70 914-6s. I've known a couple of original black '70 sixes over the years.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Sep 17 2014, 01:34 PM
Hmmm! Don't see where it says it is a matching number original engine and trans, did I miss it somewhere?
Posted by: lostreasure Sep 17 2014, 02:19 PM
The front trunk compartment?/ looks like undercoat or a dull primer-this car is far from a original professional restoration-be careful
Posted by: Gustl Sep 17 2014, 03:07 PM
If I remember correctly, black was an option on '70 914-6s. I've known a couple of original black '70 sixes over the years.
black was neither in the standard colour nor in the special colour program for MY'70
but, of course, you could get black - as every other colour - at higher additional cost as "paint from sample"
Posted by: mskala Sep 17 2014, 03:50 PM
Hmmm! Don't see where it says it is a matching number original engine and trans, did I miss it somewhere?
Look at the red peaking through on the fan shroud. Maybe still original
engine, but that's not correct. Also, all the original airbox and equipment
being missing seems bad (and will be expensive to get) for a car in the
class he seems to be targeting.
This is a very nice 914, but it doesn't seem like any area of the car was
'restored' to be super original. So, I can't imagine any of the guys looking
at other 80K cars seeing this even close to equal.
Posted by: rick 918-S Sep 17 2014, 08:04 PM
The flat black wheelhouse has lots of dents from someone hammering out a kink from a frontal crash. Those should have been bumped out and finished properly. It can be done but it takes a shit load of time and two guys working together for most of it.
Black flag mirrors... not sure about those. Some guys like em.
Posted by: Kaeferfreund Sep 19 2014, 08:34 AM
Black was not a 1970 color. . wonder what it really was/
This is a #3 at best considering all the non originality. .
I would say it was signal orange...have a look at the pictures of the engine/carburators. There shines some orange colour....it was a favoured colour that time.
Would be also interesting to see the VIN stamped in the fender (passenger side). The inner side of that fender looks a little bit wrinkled.
Posted by: Kaeferfreund Oct 17 2014, 08:43 AM
VIN 9140431733
Asking $80K
Seemed to be too much for that car. Now it is offered for around 10k less.
Posted by: pete000 Oct 17 2014, 04:38 PM
Put the stock side view mirrors back on and it would sell...
Posted by: lostreasure Oct 18 2014, 05:20 AM
seller claims it is original motor- I would think he would have posted that in his ad? Also COA? I asked him to post it in his listing so potential buyers would be at ease. He did just sell a 914 on ebay but got neg. feedback so might want to be caustious on this one?
Posted by: gcrotvik Nov 4 2014, 10:10 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191331913833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_70wt_1026
Not completely stock. 2 L center console, adjustable passenger seat, 75/76 carpet, late rear valance, non-stock mirrors, rounded edge rear bumper +
Sold on eBay. Best offer accepted. I wonder what that offer was.
Attached image(s)
Posted by: Kaeferfreund Nov 13 2014, 03:30 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191331913833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_70wt_1026
Not completely stock. 2 L center console, adjustable passenger seat, 75/76 carpet, late rear valance, non-stock mirrors, rounded edge rear bumper +
Sold on eBay. Best offer accepted. I wonder what that offer was.
But seems to be still for sale ?
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/porsche/914_6/1683686.html
Posted by: Kansas 914 Nov 13 2014, 04:20 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191331913833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_70wt_1026
Not completely stock. 2 L center console, adjustable passenger seat, 75/76 carpet, late rear valance, non-stock mirrors, rounded edge rear bumper +
Sold on eBay. Best offer accepted. I wonder what that offer was.
This is what I saw when I went to the listing
"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing. "
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