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914World.com _ FS/WANTED: 914 Cars and Rollers _ 74 2.0 with working AC runs great Junk title

Posted by: 914ltd Nov 14 2018, 11:12 AM

Sold to a knowledgeable buyer.

I have a customer's 1974 black 2.0 with upgraded and working AC. Black with black, great driver, stock fuel injection but junk Illinois title. This car was inspected by Illinois Secretary of State Police several years ago and the numbers had been removed in it's early history. The owner was allowed to keep the car since no proof it had been stolen but was told he would not be able to transfer the title to another owner. I asked that he acquire a junk title so it is being sold as junk only. $4700.

The transaxle and clutch work great, no grinds. The brakes are functional, The drivers window doesn't roll up, some trim parts are off the the car but included, moderate rust in the passenger long but the "hell hole" looks solid.

Thanks for looking. Brad


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Posted by: Chi-town Nov 14 2018, 11:27 AM

Pics? Rust?

Posted by: 914ltd Nov 14 2018, 02:37 PM

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Posted by: Chi-town Nov 14 2018, 04:04 PM

It's not that bad for a midwest car.

The thing that sucks is you'll never be able to register it anywhere because a junk title is the equivalent of actually being in the junkyard unlike a salvage or rebuilt title.

Probably better parting it out?

Posted by: mepstein Nov 14 2018, 05:43 PM

Part out the good stuff and make a cool track/rally car.

Posted by: gcrotvik Nov 15 2018, 10:08 AM

Brad,

If you decide to part it out, I will take the doors and front/rear deck lids for my original black 74.

Thanks,
Greg

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Nov 16 2018, 10:56 AM

Any yellow paint in the right places? Engine SN? Chassis #?

Posted by: Mueller Nov 16 2018, 12:10 PM

QUOTE(Chi-town @ Nov 14 2018, 02:04 PM) *

It's not that bad for a midwest car.

The thing that sucks is you'll never be able to register it anywhere because a junk title is the equivalent of actually being in the junkyard unlike a salvage or rebuilt title.

Probably better parting it out?


Still has VIN in trunk, could be registered in CA and I'm sure a few other states.
For CA just a few extra pieces of paperwork and a visit with the car to the DMV.

Posted by: Chi-town Nov 16 2018, 01:03 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 16 2018, 10:10 AM) *

Still has VIN in trunk, could be registered in CA and I'm sure a few other states.
For CA just a few extra pieces of paperwork and a visit with the car to the DMV.



CA won't put a junk title back on the road even if a rebuilder tries. I asked them a few years back. If it's written off, salvage, or rebuilt you're good to go, junk is a death sentence.

Even if they would take the junk title, the missing VINs would cause you all kinds of legal issues, see here:

"(a) No person shall knowingly buy, sell, offer for sale, receive, or have in his or her possession, any vehicle, or component part thereof, from which any serial or identification number, including, but not limited to, any number used for registration purposes, that is affixed by the manufacturer to the vehicle or component part, in whatever manner deemed proper by the manufacturer, has been removed, defaced, altered, or destroyed, unless the vehicle or component part has attached thereto an identification number assigned or approved by the department in lieu of the manufacturer’s number."

Full version here:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH§ionNum=10751.

If IL followed the correct procedure it should show as Junk in the federal NVTIS also which means it's federally Junk also. You can check for $6 on checkthatvin.com

Sorry I don't mean to sound like negative nancy here but I got bit by a car like this because of misinformation from a seller (NOT this seller!).

Posted by: 914_teener Nov 17 2018, 01:18 AM

The situation is best resolved in IL to be moved to CA.

I just went through this with a salvage title for a 987. I am driving it now. Great car.

If it can be roadworthy or marked as salvage in IL it can be brought to CA.

GLWTS.


Posted by: 87m491 Nov 20 2018, 03:22 PM

"The thing that sucks is you'll never be able to register it anywhere"

Seems you need to broaden your horizons a bit. Plenty of states don't need a title at all to register a vehicle, just a bill of sale. BTDT many times.


QUOTE(Chi-town @ Nov 14 2018, 02:04 PM) *

It's not that bad for a midwest car.

The thing that sucks is you'll never be able to register it anywhere because a junk title is the equivalent of actually being in the junkyard unlike a salvage or rebuilt title.

Probably better parting it out?


Posted by: Chi-town Nov 20 2018, 04:13 PM

QUOTE(87m491 @ Nov 20 2018, 01:22 PM) *

Seems you need to broaden your horizons a bit. Plenty of states don't need a title at all to register a vehicle, just a bill of sale. BTDT many times.


Even if it's coming from another state?
It should come up junk to any DMV that checks the NMVTIS like they're supposed to.

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