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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 18 2019, 10:40 AM

Here is what I originally posted: 1973 Porsche 914 2.0 the one everyone wants, 50,000 original miles
Everyone wants the 73 2.0 because it had the highest horsepower engine along with all of the factory options: center console with gauges, front and rear sway bars, leather wheel dual horns, chrome bumpers, Fuchs alloy wheels, and this one even has a rear window defroster and Blaupunkt cassette. One owner, all records, original window sticker and tool kit, spent its whole life in Washington State until recently being acquired by us. Never damaged one repaint for some reason. This car has been sitting since 1993 so will be fully serviced by our award winning shop before delivery. You can take it from there. $15,000 (will be more if we finish the car before having a deal on it)


George Hussey President
Automobile atlanta Inc.

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here is what I found out: George, I’m terribly chagrinned at these developments. Since the car had been sitting for 30 years and the good condition of the upholstery and the clutch and brake pedal rubbers I figured the mileage was correct. But then, I’m a novice at the nuances of used cars. I hope there are no other surprises and that a profit can be made on your behalf. Bob

From: George Hussey [mailto:dr914@autoatlanta.com]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 2:52 PM
To: Bob Forman
Cc: Mia Dejonckheere
Subject: Yellow 914

Hi Bob, just thought that I would give you some feedback on the car:
You said: Looking for advice. A friend of a friend inherited this 2.0 from his mother 15 years ago and the car hasn't run since he parked it in his garage. He attempted to get it running but has suffered serious health problems and doesn't have the wherewithal to complete it. The car has 50,000 original miles. All the parts are there including a new gas tank to replace the original that was leaking. The interior is excellent. The hell-hole, while covered in dust and dirt seems solid. I don't see any rust around the usual places. The vinyl is pealing up from the lower part of the sails but that's about as bad as it gets. He has many receipts for work done on it as well as a clear title in his name. His mom was the second owner. FWIW, the original owner was an MD. The car even has the original tool kit. I would buy the car but my garage has 3 Porsches and a Lexus coupe. So the owner has asked me to figure out what a legitimate price is and, perhaps, a new owner who will do the car justice and not just try to flip it. Suggestions?






Well the car has 150, 000 plus miles on it, and has been totally repainted with overspray. Have not put it on the rack yet, but there is a big rat hole behind the passenger seat where the rodent ate through the back pad, so not so great after all. Please do not get me wrong, I am not complaining because I am the one who bought it sight unseen, but thought at least that the miles would be correct, but just an old worn 914 this one., Will have to recondition it and sell it, no where good enough for me to keep! Such is life. Cost 1400 to get it here
George Hussey President
Automobile atlanta Inc.





Still a good car and being sold to a guy who knows exactly what the car is now


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Posted by: liebe Jan 18 2019, 12:07 PM

Let me ask a questions, since i am me, confused. Its 15k where it sits ? Washinton ? or Atlanta?
Or 15k having your award sining shop gone thru.?

thanks

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 18 2019, 12:23 PM

now in Atlanta just paid 1400 for covered transport, we will run it through the shop soon, so the new owner can feel confident that it will be a reliable car to drive anywhere.
I was going to keep this car for myself, as the owner said that it had totally original paint, but it does not, it has been repainted. Paint is good, but I was expecting perfection

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 18 2019, 01:22 PM

We’re going to need to see pictures of the hell hole and normal rust areas....

Posted by: era vulgaris Jan 18 2019, 01:43 PM

Wow, this should sell fast. I'm even sitting here trying to convince myself I can live with yellow. If it were blue, green, or orange I'd be on the phone right now.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 18 2019, 01:56 PM

Interesting the car made it out if WA. They tend not to.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 18 2019, 02:01 PM

We are starting on it tomorrow the 19th. With 50 thousand and stored all of this time it BETTER be good in the battery area!

Posted by: JOEPROPER Jan 18 2019, 02:40 PM

Posted by: rjames Jan 18 2019, 03:29 PM

How sure are you that it only has 50k miles and not 150k?

Posted by: rgolia Jan 18 2019, 03:33 PM

Could be why it needed the repaint.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 18 2019, 05:04 PM

one owner, all service records with miles shown, almost perfect interior, bright instrument needles, neat original engine compartment, all of the usual signs and documentation
more pictures coming

Posted by: pete000 Jan 18 2019, 06:22 PM

Wow, this seems like a smoking deal !

Hummmm, Should I buy another yellow 914 !!!

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jan 19 2019, 03:57 AM

This car was described to me as "incredible" by a friend of the owner, this was about a month ago. Maybe I should have bought it....

Posted by: Lobaeux4 Jan 19 2019, 04:47 PM

I’ve only saved $10K so far! Aaarrrrggghhh!!!!!!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2019, 05:03 PM

paperwork:

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2019, 05:07 PM

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Posted by: drifter914 Jan 22 2019, 07:59 AM

YUCK !

Posted by: Towarish Jan 22 2019, 02:33 PM

15K for a 50thousand miles 914 does not necessarily mean to be a good deal.
I don´t know any owner, who would sell under value.
I myself have a ´73 ,2.0 L with 50thousand km (31.mls), but would never sell for less than 40K !!!

Posted by: era vulgaris Jan 22 2019, 06:19 PM

Not trying to argue, because I don't have a dog in this fight, but you're kind of comparing apples and oranges. A car that's been sitting unused for 26 years will need everything gone through that you'd expect, and then probably a few things dealt with that you don't expect. Quite different condition than the looks of your car based on your photo, and we all know condition is $$$. And you're also in Germany, where they're quite a bit more expensive to begin with anyway. The average 2.0 914-4 doesn't sell for 40k here in the US, that would take an overwhelmingly exceptional car to bring that kind of money. Isn't that why you guys are buying up all of our cars?

Posted by: jbe Jan 24 2019, 01:30 AM

Just my 5 cents on that: The average 914 here does not sell for 40k as well, it would need an exceptional car! Regarding the motivation of buying a car "over there" (means US for us ) many times isn't price. Prices here in EU are mostly higher than compared to the US, but you would have to take in account that you need the car in the country you live in. So need to ship it, insure the shipping, tax and customs should be considered. Then you have different technical requirements to get a US car on the streets here. You need to change at least headlights, mostly tires, speedometer etc. Then you may find additional parts not released that you will have to swap. Not forgetting the paperwork. So at the end you add substancial $$ to the US price. Now why would we "still buy all of your cars"? The reason is simple: The bodies you find in the US have the chance to be in much better condition than over here! No daily driver of the 60's or 70's in Germany has survived w/o substancial bodywork if survived at all.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 24 2019, 09:49 AM

So, is it 50,000 or 150,000 miles? If you're currently advertising it here with 50,000 and you are well aware it's 150,000 miles, then you are purposefully deceiving our member base.

"Well the car has 150, 000 plus miles on it, and has been totally repainted with overspray. Have not put it on the rack yet, but there is a big rat hole behind the passenger seat where the rodent ate through the back pad, so not so great after all. Please do not get me wrong, I am not complaining because I am the one who bought it sight unseen, but thought at least that the miles would be correct, but just an old worn 914 this one., Will have to recondition it and sell it, no where good enough for me to keep! Such is life. Cost 1400 to get it here

George Hussey President
Automobile atlanta Inc."

Posted by: rjames Jan 24 2019, 09:58 AM

Sticking by my original assessment that it's got 150k miles on it.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 24 2019, 10:25 AM

Sold well.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 24 2019, 12:23 PM

I usually don't get involved in other people's classifieds, but i was also made aware that George has previously told people that this car has 150k miles on the clock and is in rather poor condition.

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 24 2019, 04:41 PM

Posted by: burton73 Jan 25 2019, 10:01 AM

Posted by: Chris914n6 Jan 25 2019, 01:04 PM

A cherry interior in a car that lived in the PNW is fairly normal. None of the heat and UV to destroy things.
I have a 30 yo Nissan with 230k and a cherry interior that spent it's first 20 years in Oregon. Body has a few random rust spots though.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 25 2019, 01:39 PM

A lot of east coast cars have nice interiors. The rust worm hit them hard and fast and they were put away for many years. I have a 36K car with a beautiful interior but lots of hell hole rust.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 26 2019, 04:51 PM

We ever get the true story on this one? Yet another pump and dump scheme?

Posted by: bobforman Jan 27 2019, 12:29 AM

I was the one who sourced this 914 via a neighbor who has a friend, the PO, named John suffering from ALS. I offered to help John sell the car as he is no longer able to work on it or even drive it. The car is a true barn-find. It sat in his garage in Burlington, WA for 25+ years. It was his mother's car which she owned since about 1981. The original owner was an MD in Burlington. The car was purchased from the Porsche/VW dealer in Bellingham, about 30 minutes north. AFAIK, the car never wandered far from it's original home.

When I first looked at the car my impression was that it was a 50K car. The upholstery was excellent as was the dash. The pedal rubber looked like it was original, worn a bit but not renewed, and my overall sense was that this was a moderately used 914. It came with all records and even the original window sticker. I didn't look at the service paperwork but that would tell whether or not the speedo had turned over. Compared to my 74 this car was in much better shape.

The PO said the mileage is original and I have no reason to disbelieve him. After agreeing to help John sell it I placed a post on the 914 Club web site and George contacted me almost immediately wanting to buy the car. After a price was negotiated the deal was consumated and the car transported to Atlanta. I have many photos of the car in its place in John's garage and would be happy to share them so that you can evaluate this good example of a teener; PM me.



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Posted by: 914z Jan 27 2019, 11:10 AM

DITTO!

Posted by: Jazzy Jan 28 2019, 04:43 AM

Without a response from seller I can only conclude that the accusations are true. That also means I will no longer do business with a company where the owner cannot be trusted.

It's a shame that the seller didn't respond with either an explanation, or an apology. Especially for someone so respected in the community.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 28 2019, 08:46 AM

Read this.....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=195708&hl=

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2019, 10:32 AM

Good memory Bill.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 28 2019, 12:53 PM

George, I’m terribly chagrinned at these developments. Since the car had been sitting for 30 years and the good condition of the upholstery and the clutch and brake pedal rubbers I figured the mileage was correct. But then, I’m a novice at the nuances of used cars. I hope there are no other surprises and that a profit can be made on your behalf. Bob

From: George Hussey [mailto:dr914@autoatlanta.com]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 2:52 PM
To: Bob Forman
Cc: Mia Dejonckheere
Subject: Yellow 914

Hi Bob, just thought that I would give you some feedback on the car:
You said: Looking for advice. A friend of a friend inherited this 2.0 from his mother 15 years ago and the car hasn't run since he parked it in his garage. He attempted to get it running but has suffered serious health problems and doesn't have the wherewithal to complete it. The car has 50,000 original miles. All the parts are there including a new gas tank to replace the original that was leaking. The interior is excellent. The hell-hole, while covered in dust and dirt seems solid. I don't see any rust around the usual places. The vinyl is pealing up from the lower part of the sails but that's about as bad as it gets. He has many receipts for work done on it as well as a clear title in his name. His mom was the second owner. FWIW, the original owner was an MD. The car even has the original tool kit. I would buy the car but my garage has 3 Porsches and a Lexus coupe. So the owner has asked me to figure out what a legitimate price is and, perhaps, a new owner who will do the car justice and not just try to flip it. Suggestions?






Well the car has 150, 000 plus miles on it, and has been totally repainted with overspray. Have not put it on the rack yet, but there is a big rat hole behind the passenger seat where the rodent ate through the back pad, so not so great after all. Please do not get me wrong, I am not complaining because I am the one who bought it sight unseen, but thought at least that the miles would be correct, but just an old worn 914 this one., Will have to recondition it and sell it, no where good enough for me to keep! Such is life. Cost 1400 to get it here
George Hussey President
Automobile atlanta Inc.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 28 2019, 01:05 PM

forgot about this post and just got back to it, Eric, have corrected One can only believe what people tell them, until they see something in the flesh

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2019, 01:56 PM

Or you can get a ppi.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 28 2019, 02:13 PM

I tend to believe what people say to a fault, way to gullible, even at my age. Really pathetic. Then the guy who owned the car actually acted like it was no big thing, and said that he knew that the miles were 150 and not 50.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2019, 02:52 PM

Russian proverb - Doveryai, no proveryai - Trust, but verify.

Posted by: Craigers17 Jan 28 2019, 06:00 PM

You might want to update your Samba ad as well,...I'm sure at this point, you don't want to accidentally continue to mislead another forum.

Posted by: burton73 Jan 28 2019, 06:22 PM

Yea, some PR damage control may be needed for AA

Please note that CA. Bob B ( ME) had nothing to do with the Bob Forman the PO or such.



I say MasDrovia-- About. “Nostrovia” is the English mispronunciation of the Russian word, "Na Zdorovie", meaning "cheers". Nostrovia is now used as English slang for “let's get drunk” and as a common drinking toast. Nostrovia!


Bob B

Posted by: 914Next Jan 28 2019, 08:23 PM

Thanks for clarify, George. Even the best of us get fooled or make bad decisions now and then. I'm 4:1 on my last 5 car purchases and consider myself fortunate at that. Ya learn something from the bad experiences as well as the great ones.

Steve

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 11 2019, 08:26 AM

we we had one of our customers Greg Gotta fly down for the week to service this 914 and get it running with excellent results. Greg is restoring a 72 914 he purchased from California with the usual disappointment, so decided to go "whole hog" on the car. He came down here to work and learn at the same time. He is a very meticulous guy so the work he did on this car was amazing. Here is a list:

X - Locate and blow through gas lines to make sure they are clear, may want to run brake clean through them and catch it at the back
X- Check fuel pump operation and replace as necessary (new fuel pump installed) with the appropriate lines (entire new fuel line kit installed front to rear)
X- Clean and wax gas tank area and reinstall tank buffer pads (cut and installed new pads, new gas cap)
X- Connect fuel nipples and strainer and washers and nuts to bottom of gas tank, install 9 and 7 fuel lines and reinstall gas tank check the tank for proper bracketing before reinstalling.
X- Check the operation of the blower fan and wiper motor and clean and lubricate as necessary before tank is installed
X- Install charcoal canister and overflow tank, pay particular attention to the brackets in case we have to install one
X- Make sure that the fuel pump circuit works and that we have a good light for the injectors
X- Change the oil and the filter, remove the strainer and clean it
N/A - Install some marvel mystery oil in the cylinders and turn over
N/A- Check the compression
N/A Check the points and make sure that the dwell is at 50
X- Make sure that there is a spark at each cylinder
X- Try to start the car
X- Change the transmission oil
X- Check the brakes for operation
X- Try to drive the car
X- Check for oil leaks
X- Check all electrics (all lights/signals good, fog lights do not come on)
X- Flush the braking system (Pressure bled entire system)
X- Check and inflate the tires
N/A- Lubricate all rubber suspension bushings (forgot about this ((:
X- Lubricate all latches and pivots
X- Remove and clean the interior and floor boards, have sue repair the back pad mouse damage
X- Scrub front and rear trunks and remove overspray (overspray removed from seals and front trunk latch. Sanded and painted front trunk area, under gas tank area, and rear trunk area)

Other
Pressure washed underside, degreased engine/transmission, washed inside of tires/rims.
Installed new fender seals
Installed new battery. POR15 and topcoat battery tray and hold down bracket, new bottom pad
Installed new jack plugs
Straitened front fender, installed new fog lenses and bumper overrides
Removed, cleaned, and painted front license plate holder (put in front trunk)
Installed new side vinyl sails along with replacing driver rear corner trim. Scraped paint off all chrome trim pieces. Cleaned top of targa and treat.
Complete detail of interior front and rear. Removed center console and cleaned mouse debris. Removed front wood floor panel, scraped and cleaned underneath. Treated vinyl areas
Scrubbed existing carpet floor mats. Installed rears, fitted new fronts.
Installed new air filter. Cleaned air box inside and out.

Posted by: nomedulla May 12 2019, 07:49 PM

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Posted by: orthobiz May 13 2019, 05:52 AM

Too many responses to sift through...

Is it still 15K? (Money, not miles)

Paul

Posted by: 914_teener May 13 2019, 10:57 AM

If all the bits are there....a fair price.

Cleaned up it may fetch 20.

It.s looks to be more than 50K of road dirt and the HE.s are done
In the usual places.

GLWS George.

Posted by: era vulgaris Oct 24 2019, 11:19 AM

Looks like it's now on BAT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-2-0-20/

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 26 2019, 01:34 PM

Where does Washington state factor in the owner history? That a nice looking car from here has rust issues is not uncommon.

Posted by: a9146luvr Oct 30 2019, 12:14 AM

Did not make reserve. no sale.

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 30 2019, 02:48 AM

lets see, a Dr. drove it 60 miles a day for 20 yrs to and from work= someone who actually drove their 914 and took decent care of it.....

Posted by: EdwardBlume Oct 30 2019, 07:21 PM

I'd buy this car. It's a beauty. Good luck!

Posted by: 914z Nov 1 2019, 03:05 PM