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Posted by: soloracer Mar 29 2020, 02:26 PM
Not liking the way things are looking in my industry and figured I should clean up the garage to get rid of projects that I either am not going to finish or that are just in the way. One of those is the 914 project that I have owned for over 10 years. I have collected a pile of parts but never got around to actually putting them where they would be used. And from the looks of things it will be another 10 years before I do so. Much better to let someone else have a go at it. Would love to see it on the road one day.
The car is a 1973 Porsche 914 that was stripped to bare metal, had the chassis and trailing arms reinforced with a stiffening kit and then a Sheridan Motorsports wide body installed. It is in primer and is very solid. A little surface rust started to show in the last year or so but nothing to worry about. With a little clean up would be ready for paint. The car came out of California and was hauled directly to my garage where it sits currently.
The wheels are Kinesis Motorsports - 17x12 rear and 17x10 fronts. The rubber has full tread depths as they were installed new 10 years ago. Probably hockey pucks now. Off the top of my head they are 315 wide rears and 285 wide fronts. The shocks are 911 and the hubs have all been converted to 5 lug. The rear trailing arms look like they accept a 911 axle as they are bigger than 914. I believe the kit to convert them was done by Vellios back in the day. There is also a Vellios oil tank mounted inside one of the rear fenders.
The car has a roll cage welded in. Looks like done by an amateur and I would replace it with a quality cage if I was to go forward with the project. I installed a removable Momo steering wheel that would go with the car.
The car has a Sheridan Motorsports standard front and wide body rear. Hoods, roof, fenders are all composite. Doors are still metal. Pricing and pictures can be found here for their kits: ( http://www.sheridanmotorsports.com/p...s_pricing.html )
I am asking $7500 for the chassis. I think that is a steal when you consider the body parts alone are $5600 USD. Then you have to get a clean donor car, strip it to bare metal, reinforce the chassis, install the body kit, convert to 5 lug and 911 parts and purchase a killer set of wheels and tires. If you had to hire a shop to do the work for you there would easily be double, possibly triple the cost of what I am asking. I weighed the car when I first got it and it was around 1300 lbs with a magnesium 915 transmisson. Should have no problem keeping the weight around 2000 lbs when done. I have stock clean and perfect condition fuel tank for the car.
I was originally looking to install a air cooled flat six but after seeing the cost vs horsepower of such a venture I decided to go with a 3 rotor rotary engine. I bought the engine adapter kit from Kennedy engineering to mate the rotary to a Porsche transmission. Then a friend really wanted the engine so I sold it to him and changed my mind again. I sold the transmission I had and bought two water cooled Subaru EG33 flat six engines plus a legacy 5 speed transmission. Bremar makes a kit, that I bought, to convert the AWD transmission for use in a 914 - it basically removes the back half of the transmission that drives the rear wheels on a Subaru and uses a spline to lock it in place and then a rear cover to keep things clean. I also bought a Renegade Hybrids radiator set up for 914's that use water cooled engines and a set of solid shift rods from Patrick Motorsports. I have Wevo transmission and engine mounts, 911 Turbo Tie Rods, and a set of front and rear Boxster S monobloc calipers with adapters for early 911's, brake rotors for the calipers, a MOTEC M48 ECU with wiring harness, hi torque starter for 915 transmissions, weld in Porsche flat six mounting kit, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I forgot. I'll sell all this stuff separately. Call if you are interested. If you are buying the car and want the engine, transmission and radiator stuff I would let them go for another $2500 (2 flat six EG33 engines, 5 speed transmission, Renegade radiator kit, MOTEC ECU with wiring harness, Transmission AWD to RWD conversion kit) I will post pictures here shortly.
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 29 2020, 02:32 PM
Some pics of the parts I have:
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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 29 2020, 03:16 PM
Sorry to hear, Looks like a good deal...GLWS.. ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: Gearup Mar 29 2020, 03:18 PM
Are you in Calgary?
Brett
Posted by: soloracer Mar 29 2020, 03:21 PM
Are you in Calgary?
Brett
Yes, I am in Calgary
Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 06:05 PM
Brakes and tie rods sold. If you have any questions post here or send me a message.
Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 06:55 PM
More pictures
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 06:56 PM
Battery tray
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 06:58 PM
Velios oil tank
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:00 PM
Rear engine bay
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:02 PM
Wevo motor mount
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:03 PM
Hood
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:04 PM
Front bulkhead
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:06 PM
Under front trunk
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:08 PM
Vellios tank
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Posted by: soloracer Mar 31 2020, 07:09 PM
Chassis stiffening
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Posted by: Don Contreras Mar 31 2020, 09:22 PM
Some pics of the parts I have:
Very nice! Someone will get a prize!
Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 1 2020, 09:27 AM
Wow. Someone is going to end up with a nice project with a lot of the hard work already done. GLWTS. 
Posted by: Sideways Apr 1 2020, 12:45 PM
You have to stop posting extra pics, it will make someone buy the car... That is not acceptable.
Posted by: soloracer Apr 1 2020, 01:27 PM
You have to stop posting extra pics, it will make someone buy the car... That is not acceptable.
I always said you are the perfect next owner. Close to home so I can see it completed. I had one message asking me how much to complete. I should send him your contact details and maybe he will buy it and hire you to finish it. The Canadian Peso is almost worthless now so should be a bargain for him.
Posted by: soloracer Apr 2 2020, 08:52 AM
Was going to get the cradle and other parts from these guys to install the motor but they never reply to emails and nobody answers the phone. But gives an idea of how the engine would go in.
http://www.coldwater914.com/?cat=2
Posted by: Sideways Apr 2 2020, 12:50 PM
You have to stop posting extra pics, it will make someone buy the car... That is not acceptable.
I always said you are the perfect next owner. Close to home so I can see it completed. I had one message asking me how much to complete. I should send him your contact details and maybe he will buy it and hire you to finish it. The Canadian Peso is almost worthless now so should be a bargain for him.
I could finish it for someone, but there would be a high probability i wouldn't let it go
Posted by: matthepcat Apr 2 2020, 02:03 PM
Do you know what year's those brake adapters will work on? (Struts & rotors)?
Posted by: soloracer Apr 2 2020, 02:54 PM
Do you know what year's those brake adapters will work on? (Struts & rotors)?
70's and 80's 911's. But they have already been sold with the calipers. Tie rods are sold too.
Posted by: Andyrew Apr 5 2020, 01:12 AM
Sad to see it go! Wish I had the money and space!!
You wouldn't entertain a pristine early 944 as trade would you?
I know someone who could be looking for a new project very soon as he's just finishing the 944...
Posted by: nnowa07 Apr 5 2020, 08:50 AM
Is this in CAD or USD?
Also, the reason you havent heard from ColdWater (Ian) is that he's no longer making parts despite his website still being up. It's definitely a little frustrating for those of us doing a Subi swap. I made the same assumption/mistake. Some others are trying to step in and fill the gap of a lack of engine cradle ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22446 ) but nothing completed yet. Looks like a great candidate for the build!
Posted by: soloracer Apr 5 2020, 06:05 PM
I quote in USD here as most people interested are from the US. I thought I put that in the description but if not I apologize for any confusion. I have sold some of the parts but the heart of the conversion are still available. I think it would make a cool car when done. I hate to let it go but after over 15 years with no progress I have to be a realist. Just too many things on the go.
Posted by: soloracer Apr 5 2020, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the update on coldwater. Too bad they stopped as the pictures of the cradle and mounting kits looked great. Probably explains why there aren’t a lot of threads with people showing how well they fit.
Posted by: soloracer Apr 5 2020, 06:11 PM
Sorry no trades. Last thing I need is another project to join the 15 others I have.
Posted by: soloracer May 4 2020, 03:17 PM
Had some inquiries but so far no money crossing the table. So I am lowering the ask price to $7000 USD for the rolling chassis. Let me know if you have any questions. Someone is going to get a heck of a deal. Cheers!
Posted by: jkuehn May 5 2020, 04:55 PM
Any idea how to get in shipped to Misssouriand what it might cost?
Posted by: jeffhills33 May 6 2020, 03:12 PM
Had some inquiries but so far no money crossing the table. So I am lowering the ask price to $7000 USD for the rolling chassis. Let me know if you have any questions. Someone is going to get a heck of a deal. Cheers!
Hi. I am in Calgary could I come and take a serious look at it? Thanks
Posted by: soloracer May 9 2020, 12:37 PM
Any idea how to get in shipped to Misssouriand what it might cost?
No idea on shipping costs. I shipped a car from Colorado for around $2500. But that was a Ferrari and on a higher end transport truck. It also ran whereas this will need someone with a power lift gate and who is willing to push it on
Posted by: soloracer May 9 2020, 12:38 PM
Had some inquiries but so far no money crossing the table. So I am lowering the ask price to $7000 USD for the rolling chassis. Let me know if you have any questions. Someone is going to get a heck of a deal. Cheers!
Hi. I am in Calgary could I come and take a serious look at it? Thanks
Sending PM with contact details
Posted by: soloracer Jun 15 2020, 08:54 AM
Had some inquiries but no takers so far. Some are concerned about transport. If it helps I have an enclosed trailer and only live a couple hours from the US Border. I would be willing to transport it to Montana - Sweetgrass or Cutbank - if you had a US carrier that would pick it up there. I have bought cars from the US and brought them into Canada by meeting a transport there and had no issues. Customs paperwork not included of course.
Posted by: jkuehn Jun 18 2020, 04:37 PM
Had some inquiries but no takers so far. Some are concerned about transport. If it helps I have an enclosed trailer and only live a couple hours from the US Border. I would be willing to transport it to Montana - Sweetgrass or Cutbank - if you had a US carrier that would pick it up there. I have bought cars from the US and brought them into Canada by meeting a transport there and had no issues. Customs paperwork not included of course.
I'm very interested and PMed you with my number
Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:23 PM
I have had some requests for more pictures so here they are:
Rear trunk area
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Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:27 PM
I need to vacuum the trunk and interior floor - a little dirty over the last few years of storage. Here are some interior shot. I consider the roll cage to be crude at best and planned to replace it. The car had it when I bought it. Maybe it was put in to stiffen the chassis while installing the body kit? I can't imagine it would be legal for any serious racing series:
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Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:32 PM
To answer questions about the hole cut in the firewall, when I got the car it had a mounting kit for a Porsche flat six that was welded onto the firewall. We had to cut that off. On top of that the first engine I was going to use - a 3 rotor rotary - needed clearance for the engine pulley so my friends cut the firewall. I still have the cut out piece if anyone wishes to weld it back in.
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Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:35 PM
As requested more pictures of the front trunk. The holes in the floor were for a ducted oil cooler that was mounted there. I still have the cooler and the duct work. I removed to fit the radiator as I planned on using a water cooled engine.
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Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:37 PM
People have asked about the exterior door handles. Here are the like new set that I have:
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Posted by: soloracer Jun 20 2020, 04:40 PM
If there are more pictures you would like to see or have any questions please ask. Whoever gets this car is going to get a great chassis for little dollars. I'm about as up front a guy as you will find and I understand the challenges of trusting people on the internet. Here is a little video that might give you some insight into me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZI8wzLg1E
Posted by: soloracer Jun 27 2020, 02:29 PM
Tentatively sold. Thanks everyone. Someone will be getting a really cool project
Posted by: Porsche Doc Jun 28 2020, 06:42 PM
Not liking the way things are looking in my industry and figured I should clean up the garage to get rid of projects that I either am not going to finish or that are just in the way. One of those is the 914 project that I have owned for over 10 years. I have collected a pile of parts but never got around to actually putting them where they would be used. And from the looks of things it will be another 10 years before I do so. Much better to let someone else have a go at it. Would love to see it on the road one day.
The car is a 1973 Porsche 914 that was stripped to bare metal, had the chassis and trailing arms reinforced with a stiffening kit and then a Sheridan Motorsports wide body installed. It is in primer and is very solid. A little surface rust started to show in the last year or so but nothing to worry about. With a little clean up would be ready for paint. The car came out of California and was hauled directly to my garage where it sits currently.
The wheels are Kinesis Motorsports - 17x12 rear and 17x10 fronts. The rubber has full tread depths as they were installed new 10 years ago. Probably hockey pucks now. Off the top of my head they are 315 wide rears and 285 wide fronts. The shocks are 911 and the hubs have all been converted to 5 lug. The rear trailing arms look like they accept a 911 axle as they are bigger than 914. I believe the kit to convert them was done by Vellios back in the day. There is also a Vellios oil tank mounted inside one of the rear fenders.
The car has a roll cage welded in. Looks like done by an amateur and I would replace it with a quality cage if I was to go forward with the project. I installed a removable Momo steering wheel that would go with the car.
The car has a Sheridan Motorsports standard front and wide body rear. Hoods, roof, fenders are all composite. Doors are still metal. Pricing and pictures can be found here for their kits: ( http://www.sheridanmotorsports.com/p...s_pricing.html )
I am asking $7500 for the chassis. I think that is a steal when you consider the body parts alone are $5600 USD. Then you have to get a clean donor car, strip it to bare metal, reinforce the chassis, install the body kit, convert to 5 lug and 911 parts and purchase a killer set of wheels and tires. If you had to hire a shop to do the work for you there would easily be double, possibly triple the cost of what I am asking. I weighed the car when I first got it and it was around 1300 lbs with a magnesium 915 transmisson. Should have no problem keeping the weight around 2000 lbs when done. I have stock clean and perfect condition fuel tank for the car.
I was originally looking to install a air cooled flat six but after seeing the cost vs horsepower of such a venture I decided to go with a 3 rotor rotary engine. I bought the engine adapter kit from Kennedy engineering to mate the rotary to a Porsche transmission. Then a friend really wanted the engine so I sold it to him and changed my mind again. I sold the transmission I had and bought two water cooled Subaru EG33 flat six engines plus a legacy 5 speed transmission. Bremar makes a kit, that I bought, to convert the AWD transmission for use in a 914 - it basically removes the back half of the transmission that drives the rear wheels on a Subaru and uses a spline to lock it in place and then a rear cover to keep things clean. I also bought a Renegade Hybrids radiator set up for 914's that use water cooled engines and a set of solid shift rods from Patrick Motorsports. I have Wevo transmission and engine mounts, 911 Turbo Tie Rods, and a set of front and rear Boxster S monobloc calipers with adapters for early 911's, brake rotors for the calipers, a MOTEC M48 ECU with wiring harness, hi torque starter for 915 transmissions, weld in Porsche flat six mounting kit, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I forgot. I'll sell all this stuff separately. Call if you are interested. If you are buying the car and want the engine, transmission and radiator stuff I would let them go for another $2500 (2 flat six EG33 engines, 5 speed transmission, Renegade radiator kit, MOTEC ECU with wiring harness, Transmission AWD to RWD conversion kit) I will post pictures here shortly.
Is this chassis still available? Thanks
Posted by: soloracer Jun 28 2020, 11:02 PM
Not liking the way things are looking in my industry and figured I should clean up the garage to get rid of projects that I either am not going to finish or that are just in the way. One of those is the 914 project that I have owned for over 10 years. I have collected a pile of parts but never got around to actually putting them where they would be used. And from the looks of things it will be another 10 years before I do so. Much better to let someone else have a go at it. Would love to see it on the road one day.
The car is a 1973 Porsche 914 that was stripped to bare metal, had the chassis and trailing arms reinforced with a stiffening kit and then a Sheridan Motorsports wide body installed. It is in primer and is very solid. A little surface rust started to show in the last year or so but nothing to worry about. With a little clean up would be ready for paint. The car came out of California and was hauled directly to my garage where it sits currently.
The wheels are Kinesis Motorsports - 17x12 rear and 17x10 fronts. The rubber has full tread depths as they were installed new 10 years ago. Probably hockey pucks now. Off the top of my head they are 315 wide rears and 285 wide fronts. The shocks are 911 and the hubs have all been converted to 5 lug. The rear trailing arms look like they accept a 911 axle as they are bigger than 914. I believe the kit to convert them was done by Vellios back in the day. There is also a Vellios oil tank mounted inside one of the rear fenders.
The car has a roll cage welded in. Looks like done by an amateur and I would replace it with a quality cage if I was to go forward with the project. I installed a removable Momo steering wheel that would go with the car.
The car has a Sheridan Motorsports standard front and wide body rear. Hoods, roof, fenders are all composite. Doors are still metal. Pricing and pictures can be found here for their kits: ( http://www.sheridanmotorsports.com/p...s_pricing.html )
I am asking $7500 for the chassis. I think that is a steal when you consider the body parts alone are $5600 USD. Then you have to get a clean donor car, strip it to bare metal, reinforce the chassis, install the body kit, convert to 5 lug and 911 parts and purchase a killer set of wheels and tires. If you had to hire a shop to do the work for you there would easily be double, possibly triple the cost of what I am asking. I weighed the car when I first got it and it was around 1300 lbs with a magnesium 915 transmisson. Should have no problem keeping the weight around 2000 lbs when done. I have stock clean and perfect condition fuel tank for the car.
I was originally looking to install a air cooled flat six but after seeing the cost vs horsepower of such a venture I decided to go with a 3 rotor rotary engine. I bought the engine adapter kit from Kennedy engineering to mate the rotary to a Porsche transmission. Then a friend really wanted the engine so I sold it to him and changed my mind again. I sold the transmission I had and bought two water cooled Subaru EG33 flat six engines plus a legacy 5 speed transmission. Bremar makes a kit, that I bought, to convert the AWD transmission for use in a 914 - it basically removes the back half of the transmission that drives the rear wheels on a Subaru and uses a spline to lock it in place and then a rear cover to keep things clean. I also bought a Renegade Hybrids radiator set up for 914's that use water cooled engines and a set of solid shift rods from Patrick Motorsports. I have Wevo transmission and engine mounts, 911 Turbo Tie Rods, and a set of front and rear Boxster S monobloc calipers with adapters for early 911's, brake rotors for the calipers, a MOTEC M48 ECU with wiring harness, hi torque starter for 915 transmissions, weld in Porsche flat six mounting kit, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I forgot. I'll sell all this stuff separately. Call if you are interested. If you are buying the car and want the engine, transmission and radiator stuff I would let them go for another $2500 (2 flat six EG33 engines, 5 speed transmission, Renegade radiator kit, MOTEC ECU with wiring harness, Transmission AWD to RWD conversion kit) I will post pictures here shortly.
Is this chassis still available? Thanks
A deposit has been given for the car. If things don't work out I will let you know.
Erik
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