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Posted by: Hydra Feb 16 2005, 03:43 AM

hi,
i'm having metal repros of the fog light grills made, but it will only be worth if i get more than 50 pairs made (roughly 50$ each side for painted ones and an extra 15$ for chromed ones).
anyone interested?

Posted by: McMark Feb 16 2005, 02:05 PM

Need more info. How are they being made? CNC? Cast? What material? Steel? Aluminum? What's the expected turn around time? Is shipping included in the $50, or extra?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 16 2005, 02:25 PM

id be in for a set (l and R) for 65x2 chromed!

Posted by: Hydra Feb 17 2005, 03:52 AM

here are the detail:

- they will be made out of cast aluminum.
- the cost will be 50$ each side plus shipping .
- an extra 15$ for chromed ones.
- non-chromed ones are primered.

and most importantly, i need to sell 50 pairs in the next few month....

Posted by: SLKWrx Feb 17 2005, 12:06 PM

I'd be down for a set of chromed ones. Mine are pretty busted up.

Posted by: Root_Werks Feb 17 2005, 12:52 PM

ALuminununum eh? I would be in for a set of primed ones.

Posted by: larryp Feb 18 2005, 05:15 PM

OK, me too. Left and right, chromed.

Posted by: JohnnyX Feb 19 2005, 12:22 AM

Interested-set, chrome

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 19 2005, 12:53 AM

now if someone could redo the early style *steel* ones, i'd be in for a set ...

Andy

Posted by: markb Feb 19 2005, 02:24 AM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 18 2005, 10:53 PM)
now if someone could redo the early style *steel* ones, i'd be in for a set ...

Andy

Posted by: rdauenhauer Feb 19 2005, 07:48 PM

Id be down for a set of primer's

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 19 2005, 08:11 PM

make it happen hydra

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 19 2005, 08:12 PM

these have the fog openings right?????

Posted by: boxstr Feb 19 2005, 08:37 PM

Is that why they call them "fog light grilles"?
CCLINSUNNYCAMP

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 19 2005, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (boxstr @ Feb 19 2005, 07:37 PM)
Is that why they call them "fog light grilles"?
CCLINSUNNYCAMP

just making sure...i dont want horn grilles

Posted by: boxstr Feb 19 2005, 10:03 PM

Hydra I would like to know where the money is going to be sent, you have no location??
CCLINMAPQUEST

Posted by: morgan Feb 26 2005, 10:14 AM

I need a set PM me

John

Posted by: Lawrence Feb 26 2005, 12:24 PM

I'm interested. I'd sure like to see a picture of the prototype.

Posted by: boxstr Feb 26 2005, 12:27 PM

A correspondence by another 914club person who was trying to purchase the 914 body parts, told me his location is Lebanon.
Not Oregon but Lebanon the country. Maybe they are having power outages??
CCLINPOWERUP

Posted by: ArtechnikA Feb 26 2005, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Hydra @ Feb 17 2005, 04:52 AM)
and most importantly, i need to sell 50 pairs in the next few month....

i'm interested in a pair.

you want us to front $6750, so i don't mind asking:

who are you?
where are you?
what prior experience do you have with cast aluminum parts?
will these be die-cast or sand-cast?
are you making the molds or do you have a pattern maker?
how will the parts be finished?
what kind of experience does the metal-finish shop have with plated aluminum parts ?
what is the espected quality of the chrome plate?
how long between the time you get the money until we get delivered parts?
when will we see photographs of prototypes and preproduction sample parts ?

i'm sure there are other questions that will come up in the thread.

i have no reason to doubt you, so please don't be offended, we're all just more than a little gunshy when someone comes up out of nowhere and says "send me money for this great part that has never been done in reproduction before."

we will be rabidly supportive of a vendor who can actually develop and deliver quality parts at reasonable prices. but we have learned to be careful with vendors, and i do not think it is unreasonable for us to be asking for a reasonable assurance that we'll actually get a quality product for the price we're asked to pay.

Posted by: bondo Feb 26 2005, 02:15 PM

What alloy? I'd be interested in a bare set if it's an anodizable alloy. Quality would have to be top notch of course.

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 10 2005, 03:23 PM

since this one got quiet i'll appologise for the hi jack now. for the casting metal, my guess would be T-6. getting all the fins to flow could be difficult. i wonder if they are one at a time casting the grills using an existing grill for the pattern. i worked in a non-ferous foundry for 5 years. pattern makers are a talented bunch. when they make patterns they have to account for the "shinkage" of the metal as it cools. i can't invision a permanent mold being cost effective for such a short run. lebanon? there'd be some shiping costs from that location.

k

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 10 2005, 03:28 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Mar 10 2005, 04:23 PM)
since this one got quiet i'll appologise for the hi jack now. for the casting metal, my guess would be T-6.

T-6 is a heat-treat, not an alloy :-) ...

most of the industrial cast parts i've seen have been 356 but those had a strength rather than a surface-finish requirement.

i actually think this would be a better application for good ol' pot metal (basically zinc...) and standard chrome plate. these are not stresed parts ...

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 11 2005, 10:52 AM

oops. "treated to t-6". the one kid feeding the coal and the other one pumping the bellows will be working overtime when this deal takes off.

k

Posted by: Hydra Mar 24 2005, 03:07 AM

I'm back with good news (sorry for the delay, but with my major rustoration...)
Prototype is on the way , aluminum will be sand-cast, then hand buffed to mirror-like finish (labor here in lebanon is quite cheap, or should i say dirt-cheap) alloy will be 6000 series. the shop i'm working with has more than 50 years experience with aluminum casting, so the guy knows what he's doing.
Please note that i don't intend on being paid before the whole batch is ready and packed for shipping, so delivery will be a week from payment, i have a bank account in the US dedicated to paypal transactions
Most probably, the chrome plating idea will be dropped in favor of anodizing.

I hope i answered all of your questions.

QUOTE
now if someone could redo the early style *steel* ones, i'd be in for a set ...

Andy how are those different from the ones in the pic?

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Posted by: Hydra Apr 25 2005, 01:28 PM

Lastest update...
the sand casting idea will be dropped guys (too much inconsistency (sp) in the finished product)
i'll be switching to dye casting. (0.1 mm accuracy)
Parts will all be anodized...
prices should stay the same...
need a week to ten days to show you the finished product, time for the mold to be done....
Thank you for your patience everyone.
Nick

Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 25 2005, 05:37 PM

I will take a set in Chrome!!

Posted by: william harris Apr 25 2005, 09:01 PM

So, with all the changes, are you still offering the chrome sets? If so, I'm up for a pair. Let us know.

Posted by: Hydra Apr 26 2005, 08:58 AM

QUOTE
So, with all the changes, are you still offering the chrome sets? If so, I'm up for a pair. Let us know.

The parts will be polished then anodized, giving the same finish as chrome. anodized aluminum unlike chromed steel won't rust or flake. These parts will easily outlast your car.
If there are any questions please let me know.
Nick

Posted by: Lawrence May 22 2005, 03:47 PM

QUOTE (Hydra @ Apr 25 2005, 02:28 PM)
Lastest update...
the sand casting idea will be dropped guys (too much inconsistency (sp) in the finished product)
i'll be switching to dye casting. (0.1 mm accuracy)
Parts will all be anodized...
prices should stay the same...
need a week to ten days to show you the finished product, time for the mold to be done....
Thank you for your patience everyone.
Nick

Nick,

Any luck on these grills?

-Lawrence

Posted by: Gint May 22 2005, 09:09 PM

Certainly sounds good. Any update? Pics?

Posted by: CptTripps May 31 2005, 09:58 AM

If you are annodising, can they be done in Black too?

I'd be interested in a pair like that.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 31 2005, 12:57 PM

el bumpo!

Posted by: william harris May 31 2005, 02:40 PM

Yeah, like what's happening?

Posted by: Hydra May 31 2005, 04:34 PM

Still trying to get that damn mold to work
It turned out to be much harder than previously thought, but i'm getting there... i hope.....I've invested WAY too much money to give up.
thank you all for your patience.
CptTripps: i'll see if the guy that's doing the anodizing can dye them black.

Posted by: ratrustle Jun 8 2005, 11:31 PM

I'm in!

Posted by: redshift Jul 1 2005, 07:07 PM

I think we'd all pay good money for nice replacements.

M

Posted by: BarberDave Jul 16 2005, 05:54 AM

HYDRA
Last post July 1st. how about a update.
I'm in for a pair chrome or anodized!
Dave

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 27 2005, 07:08 AM

i worked in a non-ferous foundry years ago. i knew this would be a very difficult casting to produce. the initial sand cast method would have been tough to get all of the vanes in the grill flow. the grills that were a complete casting would have been very labor instensive to clean up (remove parting line flash), and get a consistant finish to the metal. no doubt the p designers discovered this and that is why they opted to go platic injection.

k

Posted by: Orange914x2 Aug 8 2005, 11:52 AM

i'm interested in a set.

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