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Posted by: Tom_T May 11 2010, 07:39 PM

OK - let's liven things up some folks now that the Guru is enjoying his twilight years with Fritz or Franz or whoever that loose German is!!??
... Garsh - I wonder if his wife knows she has competition!!??

Okay - so first of all, we have someone over on Wheels & Tires asking for paint advise to restore his wheels on a 75 2.0, but we need him to load up some pix ~ then those with that type of wheel chime in with what you know to help this poor guy out! Plug #1

#2 - I'll post some interesting vintage 914 related ad which I've found online or somewhere & I'll follow later on with others, but you guys & gals need to hop in here in post some that you've found. Make it fun & interesting, & if it has prices from "back in the day" - all the better to drown our sorrows for today's outrageous prices.

Jeff - I know that you have a collection of fun stuff, so jump in here Mr. Bowlsby!
By the way - if he has the time & interest, I think Jeff Bowlsby would be an excellent moderator here!
.... he taught me everything I know (almost)!!!!!

Okay - here's a great ad for the Vintage Dunlop SP57 Tires which used to be one of the main OEM tires delivered from the factory on 911s & 914s back in the 1970's. It looks like they used something like Matchbook Cars for the ad, since they didn't really have easy Photoshop back then, but you could do similar stuff with actual paste-ups.
Judging by the file name on this one, credit goes to Mr. Bowlsby for finding it!



Here's a snippet from a 1973 road test noting the 165HR15 Dunlop SP57's on the then "new" 914-2.0 or "914S" ....




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Come on - who's next!!??

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 13 2010, 07:43 PM

Back in the early 70's, I became newsletter editor for Ohio Valley Region PCA. Along with that duty came access to Porsche factory released photos, for use to the press. Most were B&W pics. They were for advertising purposes. Here are a couple - have more, including other models.

In pic2, that's Bob Hindson leading John Morton.


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Posted by: MDG May 13 2010, 08:21 PM

Well, sir . . . ahem . . . I'd like to write the editor and point out that the 916-6 GT pictured in fact finished sixth overall. Not seventh.

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Posted by: Gustl May 13 2010, 10:04 PM

these are Schuco 1/66

btw - there was a very similar b/w version too

Posted by: Tom_T May 14 2010, 12:32 AM

Great Pat & Gustl !!

Okay - how about some of the infamous "The _______ Porsche" series!?

.... so what was it ... a 26 mpg or 29 mpg Porsche - both are 2.0 in the text??




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... or the - "Gee I wish they were still that much Porsche" ??




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... "Action Porsche" ~ or ~ "ACTION Porsche" ??
.............. Pat - I think that's your COA's "Noregian Equipment" on the Orange 914 on the right!




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... "Cow-abunga" dude! "The Surf Porsche" or the "After Surf Porsche" ??



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... again, most of the credit for these goes to Mr. Bowlsby, or advertisers I found on the -bay!

Posted by: Gustl May 14 2010, 04:55 AM

IIRC that's a US version against a CAN version

Posted by: Gustl May 14 2010, 06:35 AM

here are some less common ads:

toy car ads from Italy:




1974 ad from Road & Track ... I don't know "BAP/GEON"




french John Deere ad (don't know the year)

Posted by: Gustl May 14 2010, 06:36 AM

two rare ads from Germany:




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Posted by: AvalonFal May 14 2010, 09:26 AM

Paul

Posted by: MDG May 14 2010, 10:52 AM

Yes, your recall is correct; one ad gives an example of a Toronto to Montreal trip and the other a round trip from N.Y to DC

Don't know why the CDN has lower gas mileage? Maybe less emission crap = a bit more power = lower mileage? My '73 with stock injection gets better than that now.


My 3.2 conversion car - not so much.

Posted by: Tom_T May 14 2010, 11:27 AM

Mike & Wolfgang - if the Canadian 914's had the GB engines with 100 hp 8.0 compression ratio Euro Engine, then it could be the case, but if they were the USA spec GA with 7.6 CR 91/95 HP engine - then there would be no reason for a 3 mpg difference in real practice, unless one route had more hills to climb. Otherwise the mpg would be the same for a US or Can. GA 2.0.

Mike - I too in my 10 years DD with my 73 GA 2.0 stock D-jet I'd always gotten in the low 30's mpg on highway speed driving, unless it was in mountainous territory, like crosscountry out west here or going up skiing.

Paul - great German Beach Ad - I'd guessed it might be on the Baltic, which is even colder than the Jersey Shore & without the Gulf Stream, so probably pretty cool there in that ad!

Wolfgang - great ads! FYI - in that one ad Bap-Geon is/was a USA FLAPS type auto parts store, similar to what Bosch has/had there in Europe.

I actually found that French John Deere ad with the 914 on-line too, & always wondered what it said. Maybe Johannes can enlighten us all?

I'll add some more of my ads later, with my personal comical juxtaposing of course!

Posted by: AvalonFal May 14 2010, 01:49 PM

Another German beach ad:



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Posted by: MDG May 14 2010, 04:19 PM

No on the high compression Euro spec engines for Canada; same for all North America. And yes, my car is a GA.

Did they add extra smog stuff in the US? I didn't think so. Probably just some copywriter not paying attention.

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 14 2010, 05:30 PM

It is "as sent" from the Factory. I guess an "oops" is necessary!
Be that as it may, these are original press release photos. You wouldn't believe the euron intro package that I got for the 928 - it's a tome!
Pat

Posted by: Tom_T May 14 2010, 06:16 PM

I wonder if it's a bit nipply out there for her Paul?

... and the USA version of the above ad .... "The Get Away Porsche" ~ or the Get AWAY Porsche!



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"The City Porsche" ~ or ~ The get out of the city Porsche?



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"The Desert Porsche" ~ with or without Tits - your choice! ... on the 914 that is, the gal has them in both ads!



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"I Wanted to ... " ....... " .... Entertain You!"



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Posted by: Tom_T May 14 2010, 06:21 PM

Mike, the factory & Porsche+Audi North America both also variously quoted the 73-74 MYs' GA 2.0's HP as 91 & 95, so they probably made some copy errors on that & these ads, or maybe had two sets of test data on the mpg & hp?

The whole point of the GA 2.0 was to eliminated the need for a 49 state & California version fro the - as they did with the 1.7s of 72-73 MYs, so I doubt that they tuned them differently for USA to Canuck-land up your way.

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 14 2010, 07:10 PM

If anyone is interested, I have the 1972 sales training volume. It wouldn't help any of us here, since we already know this stuff, but it's cute. No pics. just text and questions. Since I'm planning a move, anyone who wants it can have it.

PM if ineterested. Free.
Pat

Posted by: Tom_T May 14 2010, 07:19 PM

Great offer for you 72 MY owners! Kudos Pat!!

Are you moving back to the Cinci area Pat?

Posted by: davep May 15 2010, 02:04 PM

The 26 vs 29 MPG difference is mostly due to Canada using the Imperial gallon (160 oz) vs the US gallon (128 oz); poor Yankees are short a fifth. However that should make it 26 to 32.5 MPG. So, obviously the Canadians drive pedal-to-the-metal.
In actual fact with a 1973 1.7 on stock tires my average highway fuel economy was better than 40 MPG circa 1976.

Posted by: Tom_T May 15 2010, 03:37 PM

I think you've solved the mystery Dave! Imp vs. US Gallons!

If 32.5+/- on the NYC run, then it could also be due to the Interstates here in the USA, because I think the Canadian run involved some lower speed stop-n-go bits in parts back then - yes/no?

The 32.5 actually tracks with my 73 2L on stock 165HR15 Semperit 201/401 tires on a stead Interstate/Freeway run! ... & if I cruised easy it was 35-40 range like your 1.7 back in the day.

Of course, more aggressive driving with the "magic" 3000-4700 rpm sweet spot dropped you to the mid-20's mpg - but even that wasn't bad for real hard !!!!

Posted by: davep May 15 2010, 03:51 PM

When I added 185HR70 tires the MPG took a big hit, but the added cornering ability made it worthwhile. The S suspension was a nice addition also.

Posted by: MDG May 15 2010, 03:54 PM

Once you are out of the city, Toronto to Montreal back then would have been 70mph highway all the way. Now the suggested speed is 100 km/h

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 15 2010, 07:36 PM

Yeppir, that's the plan. Course it depends on the real estate market at the time, but we're hoping for late summer/early fall. If it happens as planned, the 914 should spend some time at Stoddards for a pro touch. Workin' on it!
Pat

Posted by: Tom_T May 15 2010, 10:19 PM

Were those the Michelin XWX 185/70VR15's?
Lucas & the others still sell them today, but at $400+ a pop!
Even the Michi AS 165HR15's are over $250 each & require tubes!

Mine had Semperit 201's 165HR15's when I bought it & I went to their 401's when then updated them, but then they stopped selling them in the US in the early 80's. They handled as well as or better than the Dunlop SP57's in the same size, but the dunlops only got 10-20k miles out of them, while the Sempi's got 35-45k!!!!

I wish Semperit would re-intro those in the old vintage size here again.

Posted by: Tom_T May 15 2010, 10:23 PM

What's that - about 68-70 mph IIRC?

Also Mike, the US Interstates would be free flowing at whatever the speed limit was - even in the cities - if they picked times to miss rush hours, etc. ...... but .....

So back then they did have the gas crisis induced 55 mph speed limit here in the USA, & if they held the foot lightly to stay "legal" on the interstates, then that & the Imp Gallon difference explains the 26 vs 32.5 (29 USA) mpg!

IIRC - mine cruised about 3000 rpm in 5th at about 70 as the "sweet spot" - if not best overall mpg!

Posted by: Tom_T May 15 2010, 10:31 PM

Cool Pat!

I have family in the Indy area & we try to visit every year around late August, so IIRC it's only a couple of hour drive down to Cinci, so maybe we can get together some time - you, Paul & I with spouses & any others if they so choose!

Being in the business so to speak, the overall housing makret, finance & the economy/job won't be back in 2010 overall nationally, but certain sub-markets may be doing better. let's hope yours is in the latter!

One of my wife's brothers has been wanting to sell the Atlanta (Kennesaw) home for 18 months, since he got transferred to Charlotte & has been "commuting" since then. So you just never know!

One thing for sure - what goes up, comes down & visa versa, since it's a cyclical economy always - despite the pudits. So things will eventually recover!

Posted by: Tom_T May 15 2010, 10:49 PM

Okay, time for another installment of my pairings, as I watch "The Bourne Ultimatum" on the tube sittin' here!

Porsches - Silver or Gold - Precious Metal in either case!



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Feeling Blue? ~ or Green with Envy?



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Red always got me Keyed up!



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Come on guys & gals - bring your own ....... this is BYOA after all!!!!

Posted by: AvalonFal May 17 2010, 07:52 AM

More color. More fun. More safety.



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Posted by: MDG May 17 2010, 02:07 PM

Canada switched over in the mid-70s when everything went metric. The old 70mph highway speeds became 100 km/h (62mph); some highways are 110 km/h

As far as city congestion goes, all the times I've driven around L.A., after hearing all the horror stories about the traffic chaos etc., pfft!

Driving across the top of Toronto on the 401 (27 lanes of supposedly 100 km/h) during rush hour, a twenty mile trip could take 2 hours. To go from my house just north of the city to my old office in the heart of downtown used to take about an hour and a half each way. It was only a 23 km drive (15 miles)

8 million or so people in the Greater Toronto area and a public transit system no one wants to use . . .

Posted by: AvalonFal May 17 2010, 04:41 PM

Another vintage 2 page German ad:


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Posted by: Tom_T May 17 2010, 05:33 PM

"As far as city congestion goes, all the times I've driven around L.A., after hearing all the horror stories about the traffic chaos etc., pfft!"

All depends on your timing in LA/SoCal traffic Mike, & if the traffic gods are with you! Obviously they were with you, so I'll ride with you when we're out & we can use the high-occ HOV lanes! ... maybe you Canadians mostly just drive slower!?

More nice ones Paul - the last one reminds me of camping out of my 914, & all of the fellwo campers around gawking as I kept unloading gear from F&R trunks to set up a full camp - tent, sleeping bags, mats or cots, chairs, stove, cooler (1-2 small ones to fit) & dry food, clothes & misc gear!

... how did you do that!? ....... oh, coooool - 2 trunks! ....... ... but where's then engine?

Never failed to amaze!

Posted by: Tom_T May 19 2010, 12:53 AM

Okay - things are dragging again, so here are a few more to whet your appetite!

Geht....that top off ~ for "The Sun Porsche"



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"The Mountain Porsche" ~ to get to "The Nature [of] Porsche"



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"New Porsche" or "New Porsche" ~ Decisions, decisions!
.... wonder what the extra $95 was for? .... Shipping & handling? .... but wait! .....



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My own contribution in revenge for all those years of torture in the 70's by the Tail-dragger crowd:
"The 'Who says a mid-engined VW powered sports car isn't a "Real Porsche"? Porsche' "!!

.... NARP, NARP!



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Posted by: AvalonFal May 19 2010, 07:18 AM

Keeping it going with another 2 page German ad:

"Is it any wonder that it is one of the best selling sports cars in the world?"



Was it true or just advertising?
Paul

Posted by: Tom_T May 19 2010, 10:24 AM

Paul -

It very well could have been true - given that most other manufacturers' sports car production was tailing off by then due to the oil/gas crisis, rising import costs, buyers hunkering down" due to the oil crisis induced recession of 73-75 & not splurging on "fun cars" as much, as well as the feared "outlawing" in the USA of the open sports car (part of the reason for the 914's rollbar & targa top design over plain convertible) - & since 60% +/- of all 914's & 911s were sold in the USA (40% of those in CA - or 24% overall), coupled with the 914's production/sales peaking in 72-74 MYs at about 21,000+ - 27,000+ each year (see PAG & PCNA based estimates below - from PCA in Panorama or something I think).

By then IIRC - British Leyland was selling fewer of their individual marques - MGB, Midget, TR6, stc.; likewise Fiat 124 & X1/9 & Alfa's sales numbers were comparatively smaller each, but Chevy's Corvette might have been close; whereas Datsun's Fairlady 2000 went out of production & 240Z sold equal or more but wasn't considered a true sports car (it was classed sports coupe or GT, by which definition by the way the 911/912 didn't qualify either - so it cut both ways & Porsche used it both ways) & similarly for the Opel GT & TR7 etc.

I don't have any production numbers to compare from the others, so I'm going by what I recall from "back in the day" & some vintage auto magazine articles I have around.

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This is a good summary of the production numbers & specs across the 6 model years -
.... although I did have my stock D-jet `73 914-2.0 on stock 165(/80)Hr15 tires up to 126 mph once, but on a downgrade ~ so 115 mph wasn't the absolute max!



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Inside double-leaf spread of previously posted 3 Keys mini-brochure, with Porsche+Audi's (now PCNA) 3 product lines: Audi 100 & Porsche 911 & 914 - & back page of the outside of this 4 page single-fold handout from the dealers -



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Note on the back page a 1972 copyright date, so given the front bumper guards on the 100, 914 & 911 - it was from the first half of the 1973 MY -



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I note in the ads posted here so far & Pat's PAG promo pix sent to the PCA chapters - & now recall back in my foggy memory, that they hadn't really settled on a single way of presenting their dealerships/product lines back then - sometimes using Porsche+Audi, other times Porsche|Audi (as in the later dealer signs) & occasionally seen in print as Porsche-Audi or simple Porsche Audi. Today their marketers would have a fit with that sort of schizophrenic advertising!

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Any others?? .... come on folks - we know you have more out there, so let's make it more than the Tom, Paul, Pat & Wolf show here!

Posted by: Bleyseng May 19 2010, 01:18 PM

here is a few


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Posted by: AvalonFal May 19 2010, 02:40 PM

"The new VW-Porsche.
Now the difference amounts to only 750 HP."

What could have been.... from a 2 page German ad:



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Posted by: Tom_T May 19 2010, 07:06 PM

Now I know why my driver side headlight doesn't work right!
... or was that a demo on how they "greased" the pivot pins??

Hey Bleyseng - I have that same 12 pg. brochure in your first pic!
I got it online last year to confirm that my early 73 2L was supposed to have come with the fog lights, center console & Fuchs 2L alloys as part of the "included in the base price" AG & PG options. It's an early version which still refers to the 2.0 as "914S" - as below:




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Full 2 page brochure for "The Pursuit Porsche" ~ or .... the Porsche in Pursuit!
... I can just hear it now: "Hey Baby!"





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Posted by: Tom_T May 19 2010, 07:09 PM

Let's see, ....... 850 hp 917 less 100 hp Euro 2.0 - yup, only 750 diff!

These are great! ... keep it up all y'all!

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik May 19 2010, 09:09 PM

Hi Guys,

I went to Kinko's to get this large 36"x48" poster reduced in size. They said no because of liability. I wanted to send out to a few friends, Grrrrrr.

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Posted by: Tom_T May 20 2010, 12:32 AM

Coool Tom - I was thinking of collecting those in real time (paper) & making up a montage like that too!

Maybe just get a good shot of it with your digital camera on the highest rez setting & far enough back that the main image is away from the lens warping at the edge, then crop it & take it to a regular photo place that makes prints from your pix, or print it smaller scale on your home/office photo quality printer on good photo printer!

Posted by: AvalonFal May 20 2010, 07:13 AM

German 2 page ad.

"Master of all curves."


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Posted by: Tom_T May 20 2010, 03:27 PM

Yes ....... Master of ALL Curves!



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Posted by: AvalonFal May 21 2010, 05:58 PM

Another from Germany:

"The toughest test track for a sports car."



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Posted by: 9146986 May 21 2010, 09:15 PM

Has anyone ever seen (first hand) the special luggage set designed for the 914?

Posted by: Tom_T May 21 2010, 09:46 PM

Perry - there were different styles over the years as I recall. I've only seen some of these at Jeff Bowlsby's website, but a buddy of mine back in the 70's got a set for his beloved 911 & couldn't put them in the trunk - just like in the 1st ad, but in the maroon! I offered to take them off his hands since they'd fit fine in my 914!




.... IIRC they came in this grey, Porsche's maroon, red, black & maybe white or tan, & the Flower Child patterns of the bottom pic. Porsche was playing around with a lot of early name/logo franchising to boost revenue, but didn't charge a lot nor keep control over much of it - as compared to today.

Also note "F" above - well we all know how well that worked out in our 914s!!!!





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Here's another set on the most useless 914 Accessory IMHO ~ I mean who needs a luggage rack when you have 2 trunks with 16.5 cu. ft.!!??
... I mean really, have the "old lady" pack less!



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. Why do I feel like I'll pay for that one!!?? ... yes dear.....what?

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby May 22 2010, 09:44 AM

All those photos are just regular luggage Tom. I think Perry was referring to the dealership-offered 914 luggage on my accessories webpage, from the Christophorus article.

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/914Accessories.htm





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Posted by: Tom_T May 22 2010, 02:38 PM

Thanx Jeff - I thought that was the same as the grey set on the 911 in the pic, like my 911 bud got in the Porsche maroon (odd choice btw, since his 72 911S was black/black & we figured he'd go for black).

So Perry & Jeff, I don't know if his set was the 914 set or another Porsche branded set in maroon - but either way he could only put a small bag in the front boot & 2 larger bags in the back seat area (without blocking the rearview), which left 2 of 5 at home! At this point I can't recall from 75-76 era!

Jeff - the text in the ones from your link below notes "How to pack them in a 911" - so can you post that pic here if you have it? Even if a 911 is OT - it points out yet another advantage of our 914s over the taildraggers!

Here are the other pix & info from Jeff's site link above on the luggage, as are most of these I'm posting here for fun! Thanx Jeff!

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 22 2010, 04:38 PM

Here's one from the August 1975 Camel GT program (Mid-Ohio), where the '75 914 was the pace car.
Interestingly, the only 914 in the race was a six, driven by John Hotchkiss (Pasadena) and Roger Kirby (LA). Can't remember who won, though I'm pretty certain it was a 911s driven by Bob Beasley & Bruce Jennings (yeah, that one). I DO remember that the 9146 in the race scared the crap out of me because he lost it at the end of the back straight, where I was photog'ing. Thankfully, they didn't get to the ARMCO!


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Posted by: Pat Garvey May 23 2010, 07:05 PM

This confuses me! 1974 914 catalogue, assumed it was US, but look at this.

Posted by: Tom_T May 23 2010, 08:14 PM

Look at what? ... did you forget to upload something Pat?

Posted by: Tom_T May 26 2010, 02:58 AM

Time for some more!

Red, White & Blue for Memorial Day -



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... but lookie here which one gets the coveted garage space!



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.... Any others, before Sunny BBQs this weekend????

Posted by: AvalonFal May 26 2010, 07:35 AM

The basics:

"The mid-engine Porsche."



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Posted by: Tom_T May 30 2010, 08:25 AM

Where'd everybody go!!??

Okay then, FINE! .... here's some more "rehashes with a twist" & some new ones .......

So we've seen this one before, but I want to rename this ad to "The 'Oh Shoot, Now what do we do with the Top?' Porsche"



....... because they obviously didn't read the directions in this one from the 73 & several MY sales brochures!



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Okay so it's "The Schusse Porche" or "The Ski Porsche" ..... but who goes skiing in the Alps with the freaking top off!!??
... I mean this isn't Sunny SoCal Spring Skiing in Bikinis weather from the pix here!!



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The Pace Porsche .... or ... The Race Porsche?

Posted by: AvalonFal Jun 1 2010, 10:02 PM

Paul

Posted by: Tom_T Jun 18 2010, 04:01 AM

Time again for more!

"The Mountain Porsche" or "Mounting a Porsche" ??



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"The Nature Porsche" ( watch out for that Sea Gull - ooops! splattt!!! too late! ) or "Porsche in Nature" ??



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Anyone else?

Posted by: AvalonFal Jun 20 2010, 06:20 PM

Another from Germany:



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Posted by: Tom_T Jul 6 2010, 11:23 PM

Okay, time for some more ads to liven up good ole O&H-Land!

"The Race Porsche" is also "The Space Porsche" ....



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The latter ad above usually leads to "The Porsche Questions" which most of us with 914s in frequent use have heard more than once!

"Hey - how many trunks does that thing have?"
... Ummm, well two!



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Which usually leads to: "Well how much can that little car hold?"



- This particular one usually popped up for me as we unloaded a 3-man dome tent, 2 sleeping bags, pads & cots, 2 ~ 12 qt. coolers, 2 beach chairs, Coleman stove & camp cook gear, lantern, several bags & backpacks, etc., etc. - while on a camp trip in my 73 914-2.0/"914 S"

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But those two invariably led to the infamous: "well then, where the heck is the engine in that thang!!??"



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Which then usually requires further explanation of the differences between their cars, Bugs & 911s/912s & "Their Car" with the engine up front!



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Our 914's never cease to amaze the masses when they're seen in action - whether on the road, track or just pleasurable people & gear hauling for vacations or every day use! Porsche+Audi & VW-Porsche played these unique features & advantages up big time, as you can see from the period ads & sales brochure pages posted above.

It's also endless giggles & entertainment for we Teeners!

Hey jsr-jaime - how about you posting some of those cool 914 ads from Japan, that you posted over in the "Legend of the 914 S ...." topic????
... those were pretty cool!

Anyone else with vintage 914 ads to post?

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Jul 8 2010, 09:22 PM

German post cards......


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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Jul 8 2010, 09:25 PM

another.............


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Posted by: Tom_T Jul 9 2010, 03:51 AM

Thanx Paul!

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 9 2010, 06:46 AM

Wasn't SM2383 the prototype with the gas filler door? Maybe they airbushed it out for that postcard....

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 9 2010, 06:46 AM

Wasn't SM2383 the prototype with the gas filler door? Maybe they airbushed it out for that postcard....

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 9 2010, 04:28 PM

I was thinking that IIRC - that SM2383 was in one of the 914 books I have, but don't recall if it was that prototype, but I'll check later ?? when I get a chance.

OK - did it .....

In Brian Long's 2nd ed. 914 & 914-6 book with the color pix, the SM2383 plate appears on at least 2 different colored 914-6 cars - one is orange & the other is the color of the postcard pic (dark red, red metallic, burgundy, ???).

Perhaps the plate was moved around to different 914s, in which case they could've stuck it on the prototype at some point. Perhaps it was used like the plates here in the USA, which the dealers attach to various cars in stock for test drives?

Geoff - maybe you could find a pic of the prototype with SM2383 & post it here with a note to that effect?

Here are some other shots that I have of the Orange SM2383 -


- well - B&W, so it could be orange or maroon/red

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.... or was this the optional "filler" to which you were referring!!??

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 9 2010, 04:56 PM

BINGO!!!!

Gas filler door on a maroon/red? 914-6 -



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... I still prefer the "filler" options on the orange SM2383!

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 9 2010, 04:59 PM

... & Maroon SM2383 from the rear showing it as a 914-6 -


> not sure if it's the same 914 as the front shot, because it has different wheels in this shot?

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.... butt, I still prefer the optional equipment "rears" on the Orange SM2383!

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I wonder if they were the "Norwegian Equipment" on Pat Garvey's COA for his 72 914/4 "Fritz"??

Posted by: AvalonFal Jul 12 2010, 09:00 AM

Another 2 pager from Germany:

Paul

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 12 2010, 09:36 AM

more on the red car....On the prototype cars, they painted them several times IIRC for all the press/marketing. Jacco provided these pics from a early European brochure. Gosh, I haven't heard from Jacco in a couple of years!


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Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 12 2010, 06:34 PM

I was hoping this was my Raspberry car....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muRuHA-MREs

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 12 2010, 11:39 PM

Ha! I remember that ad from back in the day on TV, shot in the SoCal desert in part. Thanx for posting this Rick!

They also had a similar ad back then which touted "LA to SF on 1 tank of gas" with great shots along Coast Hwy.!

BTW - it was just one tank, but generally you had to stop for food & pee long before the 914 needed fuel.

LA-SF up I-5 was more like 3/4 tank at 55 (yeah right - try 65 or so) because it was mostly a flat & straight shot up the Central Valley.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 13 2010, 09:17 AM

they weren't Raspberry, its PINK!
The tranny I am running is out of a low mile Pink 914. A lady's pride and joy with only 30k on it and she drives it out of a sunny day in Seattle....til a lunchtime drunk Tbones her going40mph....
So I got the tranny out of the car while the rest was crushed...about 10 years ago it happened. I had seen the Pink 914 every once and a while for years as how many Pink 914's in Seattle were there.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 13 2010, 08:39 PM

Alien sighting. No vin # no photos on proof. Alien sighting.

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 16 2010, 01:07 AM

Found another one of SM2383, looks like the red version/car, but hard to tell with the photo's lighting ....

- it's advertised as a 4 in this shot though ("914" only), since a sixer would have it named a 914-6 in their standard terminology of the day ......



.... if I zoom in real tight, it sorta looks like it has that prototype gas filler door in front of the passenger side wiper, but very hard to tell for sure!

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 16 2010, 03:15 AM

There were only IIRC 10 prototypes that were complete cars so taking a nice pic of a 6 car and labeling it a 4 for a ad is probably what happened. Who cares as its a nice shot...and as I said they changed the colors on the cars alot...
Buried in old posts is a lot of info on the Prototype cars including #4 (the first true six) unless its been deleted. It would be nice if all that info was put back in..

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 16 2010, 02:29 PM

..... it's probably the red -6 .... or six in red paint - whichever it was.

Why don't you start a new O&H topic on prototype 914s & maybe we can convince one of the admins to put it up as a nailed thread in here, so it doesn't get lost?

I've already started this & a couple of others to keep the O&H toodling along in Pat's absence.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 17 2010, 04:27 AM

SM2383 at Hockenheim as a 914/6 in 1969. note the flared fenders, GT style rear lid


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Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 17 2010, 05:06 AM

SM2383 and #4


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Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 17 2010, 05:20 AM

#4 when new and at the WCC


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Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 17 2010, 05:28 AM

#4 and SM2383


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Posted by: Gustl Jul 17 2010, 06:37 AM

you should know that the license plate(s) were interchangable between different cars
S - M 2383 was used on various cars
this photo shows the 1st 914-6 GT "prototype" 914.0.43.0019

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 17 2010, 01:10 PM

.... I thought that might be the case Wolfgang, & suggested that might be the case in an earlier post above, that they might use that as a manufacturer's plate & interchangeable, similar to how the new car dealers here in the USA have interchangeable plates to use on new cars for a test drive. Thanx for clarifying.

Bleyseng - what is #4 - the 4th 914/4 prototype?

If so & it's here in the US/West Coast from that WCR, then someone needs to give it some well deserved TLC from that WCC pic, for such a unique early 9q4 prototype!

Thanx for posting those!

Posted by: Gustl Jul 17 2010, 02:29 PM

it's a surviving 914/6 prototype car

it's called #4 because its VIN is 914114

Posted by: larss Oct 3 2010, 06:11 AM

Found theese pictures form 1972 of the "Rennleitung" 914/6, quite a lot of stuff under the hoods...
Whats up with the exaust...it has 3 pipes...?

/Lars S

Posted by: Gustl Oct 3 2010, 07:15 AM

this is the "ONS R1 safety car" - that's the ex-1971 Monte Carlo Rallye Werks-GT
it has the rallye exhaust; on public roads they had to close the 2 pipes at the end, because they're not street legal - so it worked similar than the stock 914-6 exhaust
on race tracks they were allowed to open the pipes for more power (and noise)

Gustl

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Posted by: Tom_T Apr 30 2011, 11:55 PM

Thanx Mark!

"Snow Porsches" ~ or Skiing 914s .....

Posted by: racerbvd Jul 5 2011, 10:57 PM

 914_6_wins_C_Production.pdf ( 218k ) Number of downloads: 470

Posted by: rnellums Sep 16 2011, 09:30 PM

I cant remember where I found all these, but it was somewhere on the net, because I don't own a single one...

"When you turn the headlights on it turns you on" - Hilarious


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Posted by: Tom_T Sep 18 2011, 12:46 PM

Thanx!

Some cool ones that I've not seen before.

FYI - The ones that start with a lower case "z" in the pic name are from Jeff Bowlsby's websites. & the ones starting with "post...." are from 914world forums (maybe 914club too). Others I can't help you with sources.