Denver PCA puts on one big Concours for the year, it's a all makes and model charity event, always a great show 450+ cars, but the Concours part leaves something to be desired.
I didn't enter the Carrera this year, as I decided to donate my time as a Judge, help set up, park cars ect. I took second last year, and I didn't want to enter for second again, I took the easy way out and did Display only. Looking back, I could have won this year. Oh well.
Anyhow, I did engine bays of about 14 cars, Mostly Lotus and Lamborghini, only came away impressed with 1 car (turns out he won overall) a 85 Countach, Not a easy car to prep, and he made 2 year old Gallardo's look bad. Props to him.
Here is my biggest complaint. I was done Judging, hanging out, when I was called over to help Judge another Judges car. She of course had to find a substitute. I happily complied. I ended up doing the exterior on her 74 911, almost identical to my Carrera, easy...
She decided to make herself the timer, 5min per car at this event, and mostly cleanliness is being looked at. First she botches the timing, way over 5 min with a oops, sorry, I forgot to give you one minute to go. Then instead of giving my scoring sheet to the runner to take up to the Judges booth, she comes up and takes mine, and instantly starts questioning my deductions Her car was not all that impressive, but I did my best to be nice and in general terms explain what I saw. If this was a newb I'd had loved the opportunity to make it a learning experience and give constructive advice, but she's a veteran who was just being abrasive about her score. She didn't even read my notes before she started in with the why this why that.
In the end I just walked away from her as she was still in a huff...
I stuck around for any protests on her part but none ever came. Oh well. Hope she's in it next year against my car
Bad form, bad sportmanship-womanship, bad attitude .... just plain ole BAAAAD!!!!
Last Sat. 6/11 we had our Orange County Region Zone 8 CdE, & I did the Full Concours group - Undercarriage with Engine. I had no problems & entrants were Vets. Geez, on the 930 I couldn't find anything anywhere up in there, & believe me - I tried, & expected to find at least some minor stuff on the underside if anywhere!!!!
However, later on that day while talking with a couple of the other judges, apparently a couple of the well known CdE Vets in Zone 8 too have shot off at the mouth about judging complaints.
Maybe a lack of sleep preparing impairs their judgement!!??
In any case - in ours we went over the scoring sheets with the entrants afterwords & before turning them in, but we only had 2 cars for Full C this time (356 & 930), whereas there were maybe 20 in Street (ext, int, stor, engine judged) - so we had time to suggest where to catch up on maint. things - e.g.: 356 had a pushrod tube leak on the left that I pointed out, for which the owner was grateful.
We only do maint. & cleanliness for our Regional & Zone 8 events as well, no originality except to break a Zone level tie. Also at Z-8 the protests can only be on the rules - not how one judges, so I was surprised that some of our CdE Vets would protest - or gripe-n-whine!
With, that BS would only go so far with an entrant - judge or higher mucky-muck or whatever - and then my tone would change to one of lambasting them for such poor conduct, & then register a complaint at the Zone level!
Having played Rugby for 26 years - we got used to accepting the Ref's (judge's) calls - right or wrong - or risk being ejected from the game & causing our Side (team) to play short 1 player! So you just didn't do it, & you respected the fact that they're volunteers out there doing it for the love of the sport, & so that we could have our Match (game), League, Tournaments, etc.
IMHO - it should be the same here for PCA or any CdE or other events!
... and the whiners need to get a life!
Good on you Ferg, for volunteering your time!
Was this the 930 you judged? If so it's incredible, I've been all over it myself.
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