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Posted by: Tommyfogarty Feb 28 2012, 06:43 AM

Hello all,

I am new to Porsche and have just bought a '74 1.8. While the car is very unmolested (owned by two people, the nurse who bought it upon her return from Vietnam in '73 and subsequently the man who bought her house a couple of years ago) it has what I assume is a typical modification- new CD player, speakers and one of those 14" rubber antennae. It seems as though the center of the dash has a plate that can be removed and replaced, yes? I assume one can find a Blaupunkt Europa or Frankfurt NOS or refurbished? Also, did they come stock with a flex antenna? A collapsable? Are they available? Any guidance would be appreciated! Thanks!!

Posted by: flipb Feb 28 2012, 07:38 AM

My '74 had a [presumably] dealer-installed Blaupunkt Frankfurt and a collapsible antenna mounted just ahead of the base of the A-pillar on the driver's side.

You can find refurbished old radios on ebay or here: http://www.oldautoradio.com/NWindexDin.php?LL=&brand=PORSCHE&year=70

Posted by: Tommyfogarty Feb 28 2012, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(flipb @ Feb 28 2012, 05:38 AM)

Posted by: flipb Feb 28 2012, 10:05 AM

The antenna is not powered. Here's the best photo I could find to show both the radio and the antenna.



Car's in the shop right now, so I can't go grab better photos...

The faceplate on http://www.oldautoradio.com/NWdetail.php?LL=&id=7282&year=70&brand=PORSCHE appears to be the correct dash piece for 914, although I'm sure you can find it (or make it) cheaper! (No affiliation to that site)

Posted by: Tommyfogarty Feb 28 2012, 10:36 AM

QUOTE(flipb @ Feb 28 2012, 08:05 AM)

The antenna is not powered. Here's the best photo I could find to show both the radio and the antenna.



Car's in the shop right now, so I can't go grab better photos...

The faceplate on http://www.oldautoradio.com/NWdetail.php?LL=&id=7282&year=70&brand=PORSCHE appears to be the correct dash piece for 914, although I'm sure you can find it (or make it) cheaper! (No affiliation to that site)

Posted by: bembry Feb 28 2012, 10:58 AM

The speakers in the dooors are add on. The ones right in front of the doors are stock location. Fellow 914ers--correct me if I'm wrong. Most (but not all) of the radios and speakers and antennae were dealer add on. As long as you have a period Blaupunkt (usually Frankfurt as far as I can tell), Sapphire, or even period Motorola, or if you have $$$--a Becker, you're on the right track. My antenna is chrome with the round base that collapses down to around 12-16", and extends to around three feet. I bought a replacement one at the local auto parts store that was identical. Some guys even put on the motorized antennas, but I thing the little chrome ones are spot on for period style.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 28 2012, 11:41 AM

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Tommy, The Antenna is not powered & the Correct Location is on the Driver's Side.

However, Most 914's came to the US without a Radio (most of the cars that had a Factory Installed Radio were 1970 914-6s) and the Dealer would install a Radio & Antenna for a Big Profit ( Heck I remember when you could buy a Pioneer SuperTuner at a HiFi store for $79). Dealers would install the Antenna on the passenger side a lot because it was easier. If your Antenna is on the PS, I would keep it there.

T.C.

Posted by: porbmw Feb 28 2012, 12:21 PM

BTW

Posted by: Tom_T Feb 28 2012, 05:43 PM

IIRC the driver's side antenna was for manual telescoping antennas, & pass. side for power antennas per the 914's radio install'n dealer service bulletin of the day (1970's) &/or 914 factory service manual.

They mostly were delivered without radios, although they could be factory ordered with either a radio & speakers/antenna, or in "radio ready" format, although most were dealer or owner/stereo shop installed.



Dealer installed had a wider variety of radios (AM, FM & AM/FM), as well as with radio + cassette or 8-Track tape decks, many being offered under the VoA's (Volkswagen of America) VPC label (Volkswagen [USA] Products Corp. - which also sold the dealer installed VPC A/C systems), with the radios & decks mfgd. for VPC by Motorola & others with VW#### model numbers on their chassis (of the radio), as you'll see at the accessories link below.

However, ALL door panel mounted speakers were DAPO add-ons!

Good info. on options & accessories here:
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/OpEq.htm
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Accessories.htm

General 914 at 914 info button at the top of page here & at the Originality & History Forum area, as well as:
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/
http://www.bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/
p914.com



PS - the radios & decks sold for the 914s would include knobs to match the lights & other dash switches & a hard plastic cover plate with the 1/2-circle cut-out for the glovebox lock & molded to match the basketweave (70-74 MYs) or brickweave (75-76 MYs) of the vinyl leatherette dash face material's pattern on the rest of the dash. If you get a vintage radio not for the 914, then you'll have to source the proper knobs & faceplate/surround from another old radio or NOS (if that's important to you). They also sold the radio install kits at dealers with the antenna, 2 oval stereo speakers which fit into the plastic speaker housings at the far L & R footwells, & all needed wiring & coax. or other antenna cable.

There are also vendors of retro look modern radios out there online & evil-bay if you want modern sounds/technology or a 3.5 mm & iPad/Phone adapter for your vintage radio (Woody's Customs in Costa Mesa CA for one will be at the Porsche Swap Meet in Anaheim at the Phoenix Club this coming Sunday & also sells on evil-bay).

http://www.bench-racing.com/html/about_us.html
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/woodyscustomshop/m.html

Posted by: Tom_T Feb 28 2012, 06:16 PM

Also - here's an original radio set-up pic (dealer installed IIRC) of a late 73 MY 914-2.0 which is close to your 74 MY's era. There are more pix of it are in the O&H Forum under nailed threads "The few, the rare...", & you can PM the owner steve/smg914 there for more info/questions on his if needed. However, the faceplate/surround is not the plastic one shown on flip's pic above, but a backer wrapped in the actual vinyl dashface fabric (note the circular bulging).



BTW - that faceplate/surround shown as 914/914-6 at the Oldautoradio link above is NOT the correct one, but perhaps one made up by a PO or shop who installed it, cuz it's not basketweave/brickweave texture.

This pic shows the proper radio surround/faceplate & knobs from my Motorola built VPC AM/FM/8-Track from my early-73 2.0 FYI.



Good Luck!
Tom
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Posted by: underthetire Feb 28 2012, 06:20 PM

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/2827240251.html

period correct!

And this should work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-356-911-914-944-912-Hirschman-chrome-antenna-/230419727090?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35a61602f2&vxp=mtr

Posted by: tod914 Feb 28 2012, 07:35 PM

Jeff, that seems alittle more 80s than 70s. Beautiful find though.

Posted by: underthetire Feb 28 2012, 07:42 PM

Could be. Not mine so idk. There are actually a few on c/l right now different years.

Posted by: tod914 Feb 28 2012, 08:20 PM

Nice Jeff. Not an easy task finding one in great shape, let alone new! Searched all over for the longest time, and settled for a Motorola.

Posted by: underthetire Feb 28 2012, 08:37 PM

How about this one?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/2875967149.html

Posted by: tod914 Feb 29 2012, 12:15 AM

Jeff, late 60s. I had a bookmark which listed all the Blaupunkt models by serial number, year, etc. If I can find it again, I'll post it. Had great info.