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Posted by: plutothepointer Nov 28 2020, 03:03 AM
Hi,
in Germany you hardly ever see 914s with the black Vinyl on the A-Pillar. Actually I only know 2 such cars, one of them is the "development" car of the late Klie. The other is mine.
How common are cars with vinyl? are there many around in the USA. Who knows?
I contacted Karman about that vinyl 20 years ago, but they couldn't give me any information because it was to far in the past.
There doesn't even seem to be a parts number for this vinyl.
Regards,
Werner
Posted by: StarBear Nov 28 2020, 10:55 AM
I think that here in the US they were very common, especially on the 1.7 and 1.8 cars.
Oops; never mind. Misread the question.
Posted by: mepstein Nov 28 2020, 11:28 AM
I thought I remember reading just 1000 cars but not sure.
Posted by: altitude411 Nov 28 2020, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 28 2020, 10:28 AM) 
I thought I remember reading just 1000 cars but not sure.
Early '73. here's some casual reading on the subject...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=61696
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=67816
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=40443
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76948
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=233326
Posted by: davep Nov 29 2020, 10:34 PM
Yes, only a few early 1973, and mostly 1.7 since the 2.0 was late being introduced.
Posted by: Arno914 Dec 2 2020, 05:06 AM
According to the "Das große VW-Porsche 914 Buch" only the first 1.000 or so cars for the 1973 mj. where equipped with this vinyl on the a pillar. They stopped it because of difficulties with glueing it properly under production conditions.
Posted by: plutothepointer Dec 2 2020, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(Arno914 @ Dec 2 2020, 12:06 PM)
According to the "Das große VW-Porsche 914 Buch" only the first 1.000 or so cars for the 1973 mj. where equipped with this vinyl on the a pillar. They stopped it because of difficulties with glueing it properly under production conditions.
1,000 cars are roughly 1 % of the complete production of the 914. I have seen hundreds of cars (because of personal interest and because I work as a photographer on car events, like the 30 years 914 celebration and the 50 years celebration last year at the Porsche Museum) but the only Vinyl Type cars I have seen are my car and the Klie car, which is a development prototype and not a production car. Therefore my thought was, that this style was particular for the US market.
In preparation for the restauration of the vinyl I asked the current owner of the Klie car for his advice. He had to restore the vinyl as well. To glue this one piece vinyl to sit perfectly right is not an easy job. Sounds reasonable that Karman found it to difficult to fit the car with the vinyl and dropped it.
Posted by: pfreiburger Jan 9 2021, 01:22 PM
QUOTE(plutothepointer @ Dec 2 2020, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE(Arno914 @ Dec 2 2020, 12:06 PM)
According to the "Das große VW-Porsche 914 Buch" only the first 1.000 or so cars for the 1973 mj. where equipped with this vinyl on the a pillar. They stopped it because of difficulties with glueing it properly under production conditions.
1,000 cars are roughly 1 % of the complete production of the 914. I have seen hundreds of cars (because of personal interest and because I work as a photographer on car events, like the 30 years 914 celebration and the 50 years celebration last year at the Porsche Museum) but the only Vinyl Type cars I have seen are my car and the Klie car, which is a development prototype and not a production car. Therefore my thought was, that this style was particular for the US market.
In preparation for the restauration of the vinyl I asked the current owner of the Klie car for his advice. He had to restore the vinyl as well. To glue this one piece vinyl to sit perfectly right is not an easy job. Sounds reasonable that Karman found it to difficult to fit the car with the vinyl and dropped it.
Hello All - I just purchased a 1973 914 1.7 and mine has the vinyl A pillar trim. It also has black door handles and they look like a factory finish. Does anyone know if black door handles were fitted along with the A pillar trims? Also, I would be interested to know if anyone sells black door handles - it does not look like it. Thanks, Paul.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 9 2021, 02:02 PM
QUOTE(pfreiburger @ Jan 9 2021, 02:22 PM)
QUOTE(plutothepointer @ Dec 2 2020, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE(Arno914 @ Dec 2 2020, 12:06 PM)
According to the "Das große VW-Porsche 914 Buch" only the first 1.000 or so cars for the 1973 mj. where equipped with this vinyl on the a pillar. They stopped it because of difficulties with glueing it properly under production conditions.
1,000 cars are roughly 1 % of the complete production of the 914. I have seen hundreds of cars (because of personal interest and because I work as a photographer on car events, like the 30 years 914 celebration and the 50 years celebration last year at the Porsche Museum) but the only Vinyl Type cars I have seen are my car and the Klie car, which is a development prototype and not a production car. Therefore my thought was, that this style was particular for the US market.
In preparation for the restauration of the vinyl I asked the current owner of the Klie car for his advice. He had to restore the vinyl as well. To glue this one piece vinyl to sit perfectly right is not an easy job. Sounds reasonable that Karman found it to difficult to fit the car with the vinyl and dropped it.
Hello All - I just purchased a 1973 914 1.7 and mine has the vinyl A pillar trim. It also has black door handles and they look like a factory finish. Does anyone know if black door handles were fitted along with the A pillar trims? Also, I would be interested to know if anyone sells black door handles - it does not look like it. Thanks, Paul.
I'm 99.99% sure the black handles never came on a stock 914
Posted by: pfreiburger Jan 9 2021, 07:15 PM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 9 2021, 02:02 PM)
QUOTE(pfreiburger @ Jan 9 2021, 02:22 PM)
QUOTE(plutothepointer @ Dec 2 2020, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE(Arno914 @ Dec 2 2020, 12:06 PM)
According to the "Das große VW-Porsche 914 Buch" only the first 1.000 or so cars for the 1973 mj. where equipped with this vinyl on the a pillar. They stopped it because of difficulties with glueing it properly under production conditions.
1,000 cars are roughly 1 % of the complete production of the 914. I have seen hundreds of cars (because of personal interest and because I work as a photographer on car events, like the 30 years 914 celebration and the 50 years celebration last year at the Porsche Museum) but the only Vinyl Type cars I have seen are my car and the Klie car, which is a development prototype and not a production car. Therefore my thought was, that this style was particular for the US market.
In preparation for the restauration of the vinyl I asked the current owner of the Klie car for his advice. He had to restore the vinyl as well. To glue this one piece vinyl to sit perfectly right is not an easy job. Sounds reasonable that Karman found it to difficult to fit the car with the vinyl and dropped it.
Hello All - I just purchased a 1973 914 1.7 and mine has the vinyl A pillar trim. It also has black door handles and they look like a factory finish. Does anyone know if black door handles were fitted along with the A pillar trims? Also, I would be interested to know if anyone sells black door handles - it does not look like it. Thanks, Paul.
I'm 99.99% sure the black handles never came on a stock 914
Thanks for the reply. I have one broken handle so two chrome ones it will be.
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