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Posted by: Chromatech May 9 2006, 09:29 AM

Last summer I bought a '73 (in Canada)that I had had my eye on 26 years ago, it had not been touched in that time (garaged with suspension issues). It had adealer installed items: amco console and ATS wheels.

When I started working on it, I noticed the foglights were amber:
They are Bosch, not Hella. They have the same body diameter as the hella but the lense is the same diameter as the back/body.

Has anyone ever seen these before? Were they a dealer option?

Posted by: Gustl May 9 2006, 09:48 AM

in France early models had amber fog lights, but I don't know more details (size, ...) about 'em

Posted by: Gustl May 9 2006, 10:07 AM

here are some pics













Gustl

Posted by: Chromatech May 9 2006, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the pics Gustl! They might be euro fogs but I'm still not sure. The question to you concours guys would be whether to remove to maintain the original look of the car?

Thanks

Posted by: 914Sixer May 18 2006, 01:45 PM

I have a set of NOS French foglights with h1 bulbs. They are the same size as the rest of the lights but contrary to popular belief the lens are not YELLOW. They are clear with the reflector coated yellow. I will try to add pictures later.

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 18 2006, 05:39 PM

I'm going on memory only (my spec info is at home & I'm on vacation), but I though all CDN 914's were equipped with the French fog lights.

It's also my recollection that the reflectors were yellow, not the lenses.

As I said...memory.....dangerous

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 19 2006, 10:18 AM

i believe those are not stock....

the stock had a yellow reflector...

Posted by: rickyhgarcia May 19 2006, 09:52 PM

You can order these amber lenses from the Porsche dealer. They appear on the part list. I put them on order at the Miami (The Collections) Porsche dealership, but cancel the order after waiting for a whole year. I do not know if this makes them original, but Porsche sells them for the 914.

I think they look cool, especially since all my lenses are European color...so if you decide not to use them, I may buy them from you.

Posted by: Chromatech May 26 2006, 07:35 AM

QUOTE(rickyhgarcia @ May 19 2006, 07:52 PM)

Posted by: rickyhgarcia May 27 2006, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Chromatech @ May 26 2006, 05:35 AM)

QUOTE(rickyhgarcia @ May 19 2006, 07:52 PM)

You can order these amber lenses from the Porsche dealer. They appear on the part list. I put them on order at the Miami (The Collections) Porsche dealership, but cancel the order after waiting for a whole year. I do not know if this makes them original, but Porsche sells them for the 914.

I think they look cool, especially since all my lenses are European color...so if you decide not to use them, I may buy them from you.

Rick,

Do you have the part number around? These aren't just amber lenses on the usual fogs, they are a different size lens but the same housing diameter. The housing and lens are Bosch and use the same mounting bracket as the clear fogs.

I'll opt for the clear ones if the experts tell me these were never used for the 914.

Cheers

Posted by: Gustl Jun 10 2006, 01:33 AM

look http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=53576

Gustl

Posted by: GWN7 Jun 10 2006, 06:14 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ May 18 2006, 04:39 PM)

I'm going on memory only (my spec info is at home & I'm on vacation), but I though all CDN 914's were equipped with the French fog lights.

It's also my recollection that the reflectors were yellow, not the lenses.

As I said...memory.....dangerous

Posted by: marcelina Jun 11 2006, 01:52 AM

Todd
First let me say that I am no Concours expert, and anything that I add to this subject, I will try to back up with refrence from others and photos that I have gleened from the web. If you look on page 93 of George A. Husseys' book '914 TECH TIPS 700' you will find photos of both european fog lights and US driving lights. Although these lights look similar, they are slightly different in physical appearance and size. The lenses are not interchangeable but they are both manufactured by HELLA of Germany.
The lenses of the euro fog lamps were manufactured in clear and yellow. I understand that the French 914's were the only european cars supplied with the yellow lens. I don't know if the yellow lens was backed by a yellow reflector. I doubt it, but maybe. On page 37 of Dr. B. Johnsons' book '914 and 914-6 Porsche, A Restorers Guide to Authenticity', you will find another detailed description of 914 driving lights and fog lights. He also indicates that the French lens was yellow and makes no reference to yellow reflectors.
The three photos that I have included show a set of the yellow french fog lenses (NOS), a pair of clear euro fog lights and a U.S. spec. fog light. You will note that the clear euro lens and the yellow euro lens are identical except for color. The photo of the yellow french lenses are an NOS set that I purchased on an eBay auction for installation on my '71' 914-6. I believe that I lucked out because they are almost impossible to find. The print on the lens reads as follows ....... HELLA 1-101289-02-MADE IN GERMANY Hope the photos and references help

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jun 11 2006, 08:48 AM

QUOTE(marcelina @ Jun 11 2006, 03:52 AM)

Todd
First let me say that I am no Concours expert, and anything that I add to this subject, I will try to back up with refrence from others and photos that I have gleened from the web. If you look on page 93 of George A. Husseys' book '914 TECH TIPS 700' you will find photos of both european fog lights and US driving lights. Although these lights look similar, they are slightly different in physical appearance and size. The lenses are not interchangeable but they are both manufactured by HELLA of Germany.
The lenses of the euro fog lamps were manufactured in clear and yellow. I understand that the French 914's were the only european cars supplied with the yellow lens. I don't know if the yellow lens was backed by a yellow reflector. I doubt it, but maybe. On page 37 of Dr. B. Johnsons' book '914 and 914-6 Porsche, A Restorers Guide to Authenticity', you will find another detailed description of 914 driving lights and fog lights. He also indicates that the French lens was yellow and makes no reference to yellow reflectors.
The three photos that I have included show a set of the yellow french fog lenses (NOS), a pair of clear euro fog lights and a U.S. spec. fog light. You will note that the clear euro lens and the yellow euro lens are identical except for color. The photo of the yellow french lenses are an NOS set that I purchased on an eBay auction for installation on my '71' 914-6. I believe that I lucked out because they are almost impossible to find. The print on the lens reads as follows ....... HELLA 1-101289-02-MADE IN GERMANY Hope the photos and references help

Posted by: rickyhgarcia Jun 16 2006, 09:26 PM

Just checking the PET...

It list P/N 914-631-930-10 as

beam spread glass
yellow
for
H-3
high beam headlamp
not for
914-1,8

The picture shows this part as just the lens...does not specify a year, so I assume is for any year and any car except (as indicated above) for the 1.8 cars.