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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 2 2006, 07:46 PM

Allright, next phase - front trunks. Please keep it limited to 914's through 1971. We'll go from there.

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Jul 3 2006, 04:14 PM

Sorry for the tire stains on the trunk floor. I'll try to provide better/additional pics when my digital camera is repaired. This will be a start.Attached Image

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 3 2006, 08:11 PM

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Sorry for the tire stains on the trunk floor. I'll try to provide better/additional pics when my digital camera is repaired. This will be a start.Attached Image

Ummm, not to be a pest, but where are the other pieces. You know, tool kit, spare tires, etc. not that this is meant to be virtual councours (hmmm, not a bad idea), but we'd reallt like to see it all, including the top of your gas tank.

I know you, so don't get in a spit about this. Just show us what you have, cause I know you have all the pieces. Help the newbie!
Pat

Posted by: grasshopper Jul 3 2006, 10:33 PM

uhh, pat..90% of 914's dont even have a tool kit anymore...and that is a very clean front trunk.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 4 2006, 09:06 AM

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uhh, pat..90% of 914's dont even have a tool kit anymore...and that is a very clean front trunk.

I'm sure you're right, but the pieces are out there & I'd like others to see them so when they run accross them they can grab em up.

I know the photo car pretty well & it IS a very nice 914. The whole car is even nicer than the front trunk. Glad Paul sent clap56.gif the pics & I'm sure we'll get more.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 6 2006, 06:13 PM

Let's see the middle years

Posted by: tod914 Jul 7 2006, 11:19 AM

Here's a few detail shots from a 12/74 build 1975 2.0. Will be a month or so before I can take other shots. Camera is out on loan.

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Posted by: tod914 Jul 7 2006, 11:21 AM

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Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jul 12 2006, 06:31 PM

Hi Guys,

Just crawling back from (6) days of baby sitting our (2) grandchildren (boys 1-1/2 & 4-1/2 yrs.) Lynda & I are bone tired. It will be another week before things are back to normal.

Just wanted to show details of my 1974 front trunk. I'll take more detailed photo's & post later next week.

Tom


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Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jul 12 2006, 06:32 PM

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Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jul 12 2006, 06:51 PM

BTW

See that last picture & notice the wire cable under the headlight (not factory)???
Everyone should put one in. If you every break the cable pull when the front trunk is closed it's a bitch to open. My emergency cable pull is hidden under the headlight bullnose. In an emergency you pull off the headlight bullnose to open the front trunk. It's a really neat pull hidden from sight. It has a miniature 914 model handle (need to take a picture of this beautiful piece of hidden art smile.gif ) that was made a long time ago by a 914 dentist lab Tech. out East. I think his name was Robb??? Forgot his name. He was a 914 long time (73 or 74 orange) owner that just disappeared. Wonder what happened to him. Used to see him at all the Stoddard meets???

Tom

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 13 2006, 05:07 PM

Tom,
envy your "cad" plated strut upper hardware! Mine was polished years ago & looks close to chrome, but will get it replated down the road. Very nice Zebra stries, too!

Happy you're back!
Pat

Posted by: tod914 Jul 13 2006, 06:42 PM

great looking car Tom. By chance do you have a thread or site on the resto on that?

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jul 13 2006, 07:59 PM

Hi Tod,

Thanks for the compliment (it's really appreciated). I never made a web site or thread because my restoration was before I had a digital camera. I have lots of 35mm pictures & I need to purchase a scanner to put pictures on a CD. Something I want to do, but never find the time. I will someday because of the wonderful experience working with new found friends & the labor of love putting it together. There was a nice (4) page feature on my car in EXCELLENCE magazine in their August 2002 issue # 112 if you can find an old copy.

Thanks again for asking Tod, because I really need to put something on paper for all the shortcuts and restoration advise I can pass on to others. I enjoyed the research, parts collection & new friends more than finishing the 914. The day I took it for it's first drive was the high point of my restoration & today (8) years later it's just another pretty Yellow 914.

Tom
BTW: I just went out to the garage to look at a plaque on the wall saying June 27th. 1998 was the day the motor was fired up & it was finished in August 1998 for my first ride around the neighborhood. Lots of great memories.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 24 2006, 07:26 PM

Some photos of my '72 front trunk


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 24 2006, 07:42 PM

Couple more from my '72. Pardon the chrome wheel - have the orig, but no tire mounted.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 24 2006, 07:44 PM

Final from the front of my '72 - no, it's not freshly repainted.


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Posted by: Series9 Jul 24 2006, 07:51 PM

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 24 2006, 08:02 PM

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'72 happy11.gif :

Wow...Cool..looks just like mine, except for.........everything!

Posted by: Dion Jul 26 2006, 03:04 PM

Here is my 73 not concours,but thought i'd like to contribute......Dion


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 26 2006, 06:39 PM

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Here is my 73 not concours,but thought i'd like to contribute......Dion

Dion - once again - NICE 914! May be the camera settings, but what is the color?

Posted by: Dion Jul 26 2006, 10:19 PM

Hi Pat. It's one of the option colours with the strange name."Marathon" metallic Blue.

Posted by: type4org Jul 30 2006, 02:41 PM

My 1976 2.0 with 24,500 miles: This front trunk is original with the exception of the amp put in by the P.O. (see story below).

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The amp has a funny story behind it. This isn't just some dumb kid who cut up half the car for bigger speakers, the first owner actually fitted a CB radio. Apart from this highly visible amp the setup is actually very discreet and nicely done, I even found a bsiness card from the CB radio place in southern California that did it, most likely in the late seventies. The setup comes with the amp, a late seventies Motorola radio (the car apparently had a Becker Mexico, which came in a box when I bought it) and the CB handheld mike which mounts tastefully onto the middle console in the passenger footwell. I can't test this setup until the motorized antenna works again, unfortunately.

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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 30 2006, 06:13 PM

Whats that light grey wire cable for in the nose panel Jens?

Posted by: type47fan Jul 30 2006, 06:39 PM

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Whats that light grey wire cable for in the nose panel Jens?


Factory foglights?

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Whats that light grey wire cable for in the nose panel Jens?


Factory foglights?


Wayne gets the prize. beerchug.gif

I didn't know it myself until I went out and just disconnected one of them and switched on the foglights. With the big old rubber bumper you can't even put your hand behind there and feel along.

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 7 2006, 12:01 PM

More 1970/4 pics..............


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Posted by: tod914 Aug 7 2006, 12:28 PM

Where's the toe hook gizmo screwed into?? Don't remember seeing something for it on my 75. Nice looking car btw.

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 7 2006, 02:40 PM

On early cars ( I don't know when the factory changed it), there is a threaded installation point near the leading edge of the trunk. The first photo in this thread shows the installation point. There is another one on the driver's side as well, with the threaded hole empty. After reading your post, I looked at Pat Garvey's front trunk and didn't see any tow hook installation points in his '72. That's probably explains why he shows his tow hook with his tool kit, as later cars didn't have the interior installation points for the aforementioned hook. I wonder if '71s have this tow hook mounting point?

Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 7 2006, 07:31 PM

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On early cars ( I don't know when the factory changed it), there is a threaded installation point near the leading edge of the trunk. The first photo in this thread shows the installation point. There is another one on the driver's side as well, with the threaded hole empty. After reading your post, I looked at Pat Garvey's front trunk and didn't see any tow hook installation points in his '72. That's probably explains why he shows his tow hook with his tool kit, as later cars didn't have the interior installation points for the aforementioned hook. I wonder if '71s have this tow hook mounting point?

Nope! I usually keep it with the tool kit, because that's where it was displayed in the "olden days" of concours, plus it's not susceptible to being banged when removing the spare, rendering it bent.

Attached photo shows correct placement ina late '72. This does bring up the question of just when (if ever) it was moved to the tool bag.


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Posted by: boxstr Aug 22 2006, 10:35 PM

74 2.0 33,000 miles


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Posted by: boxstr Aug 22 2006, 10:36 PM

Guess I could have been a little closer.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 24 2006, 02:46 PM

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74 2.0 33,000 miles

Very nice!

Note to the newbies and/or uninformed - major change here with the fuels evaporator tank & note the charcoal canister is gone from the front. Other little things too.


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Posted by: Bleyseng Aug 26 2006, 10:00 AM

I thought those were suspension pickup points...hmm.

Here is a early 70 that just needs a bit of cleaning up for a show. 150K miles and off the road since 1982.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 26 2006, 07:12 PM

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I thought those were suspension pickup points...hmm.

Here is a early 70 that just needs a bit of cleaning up for a show. 150K miles and off the road since 1982.


Chuckle! Nothing a 150 hp shop vac can't handle!


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 12 2006, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(type47fan @ Jul 30 2006, 08:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jul 30 2006, 05:13 PM) *

Whats that light grey wire cable for in the nose panel Jens?


Factory foglights?


Wayne gets the prize. beerchug.gif

I didn't know it myself until I went out and just disconnected one of them and switched on the foglights. With the big old rubber bumper you can't even put your hand behind there and feel along.

Nonetheless, an extremely nice 914! Color's not bad either, cause it's close to red!
Pat

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Nov 19 2006, 02:18 PM

Even more '70/4 front trunk, note no charcoal canister...


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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Nov 19 2006, 02:21 PM

driver's side detail, again a '70/4.....


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Posted by: 914runnow Dec 3 2006, 01:31 AM

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Hi Guys,

Just crawling back from (6) days of baby sitting our (2) grandchildren (boys 1-1/2 & 4-1/2 yrs.) Lynda & I are bone tired. It will be another week before things are back to normal.

Just wanted to show details of my 1974 front trunk. I'll take more detailed photo's & post later next week.

Tom

Hi there...I noticed a 'drain hose' on your brake fluid resevoir??
Was that OEM on your model year?? blink.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 8 2007, 09:26 AM

75', 11/74 door jam sticker. #H3V9, code L31M, Scarlet (Mars) Red. unbelievable!! quite possibly the cleanest (and i think original) car i've ever seen. enjoy.

k


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 8 2007, 09:02 PM

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75', 11/74 door jam sticker. #H3V9, code L31M, Scarlet (Mars) Red. unbelievable!! quite possibly the cleanest (and i think original) car i've ever seen. enjoy.

k

Looks like a VERY nice 914. Cleanest, most original? Uhh, without having a virtual concours here, I personally don't think so. What bout pics of the belly , motor & trans? Suspension & brakes too.

Let's start a virtual concours competition - no phototouching permited. Could be fun!

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 9 2007, 10:21 AM

well, not the cleanest ever pat. i'm just speaking about a car that i have personally seen. esp after rolling back 2 covers and blankets. the car hasn't seen sunlight in 15 years. the 3 flat tires won't allow me the opportunity to raise the car let alone crawl under it.

k

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Mar 30 2007, 10:10 PM

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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Mar 30 2007, 10:14 PM

How's this for concours? An original unrepainted spare w/ an original Dunlop 165/15 on it.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Apr 1 2007, 08:58 PM

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Hmmm, let's see....

Trunk paint looks to be pretty close to perfect, but..

Looks like some dust on the headlight linkage covers, and the rear of the spare needs some serious attention.

Just kidding!!!! (except for the rear of the spare) Very nice LE. Proper color combo, in my humble opinion.
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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 2 2007, 03:10 PM

Pat- please note the dimples & slight discoloration on the inside of the right wheel well. The most unusual damage to ever happen to a 914, (I think), in history. It's 1977, my Dad & I went to his lawyers house for dinner. Daniel had a present for my Dad, the "Gardener". He gave us a 6' pine tree & we showed up in the LE. So we opened the front trunk & put the base of the tree, (burlap ball), into the car & tied the trunk down. Yes I know, sacriledge. Anyway, after driving the 8 miles home we took the tree out & saw what it had done to the inner fender. Pop jacked the car up, took the wheel off & pounded the dent out. He then grabbed a can of whatever white paint he had lying around, taped it off & sprayed it so it would look passable. Been that way for 30 years now. If I was not there to witness all of this I would have been very leery of approaching this car. Things like this are why it pays to be the original owner. Nothing has ever happened to this car that I don't know about.


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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Apr 2 2007, 07:11 PM

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Pat- please note the dimples & slight discoloration on the inside of the right wheel well. The most unusual damage to ever happen to a 914, (I think), in history. It's 1977, my Dad & I went to his lawyers house for dinner. Daniel had a present for my Dad, the "Gardener". He gave us a 6' pine tree & we showed up in the LE. So we opened the front trunk & put the base of the tree, (burlap ball), into the car & tied the trunk down. Yes I know, sacriledge. Anyway, after driving the 8 miles home we took the tree out & saw what it had done to the inner fender. Pop jacked the car up, took the wheel off & pounded the dent out. He then grabbed a can of whatever white paint he had lying around, taped it off & sprayed it so it would look passable. Been that way for 30 years now. If I was not there to witness all of this I would have been very leery of approaching this car. Things like this are why it pays to be the original owner. Nothing has ever happened to this car that I don't know about.


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Stories like that make the cars' ours, its "provenance", so to speak. The places we have gone, the folks that we've carried, the sometimes crazy and foolish things that have happened to/with us with regard to our 914s all contribute to the car's character. Pat's 914, bought new by he and his wife Jan, also carries with it a long history of vacations, PCA Parades, a/xs, rallyes, etc. Cars with stories..... thumb3d.gif

Posted by: Pat Garvey Apr 3 2007, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Apr 2 2007, 01:10 PM) *

Pat- please note the dimples & slight discoloration on the inside of the right wheel well. The most unusual damage to ever happen to a 914, (I think), in history. It's 1977, my Dad & I went to his lawyers house for dinner. Daniel had a present for my Dad, the "Gardener". He gave us a 6' pine tree & we showed up in the LE. So we opened the front trunk & put the base of the tree, (burlap ball), into the car & tied the trunk down. Yes I know, sacriledge. Anyway, after driving the 8 miles home we took the tree out & saw what it had done to the inner fender. Pop jacked the car up, took the wheel off & pounded the dent out. He then grabbed a can of whatever white paint he had lying around, taped it off & sprayed it so it would look passable. Been that way for 30 years now. If I was not there to witness all of this I would have been very leery of approaching this car. Things like this are why it pays to be the original owner. Nothing has ever happened to this car that I don't know about.


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Stories like that make the cars' ours, its "provenance", so to speak. The places we have gone, the folks that we've carried, the sometimes crazy and foolish things that have happened to/with us with regard to our 914s all contribute to the car's character. Pat's 914, bought new by he and his wife Jan, also carries with it a long history of vacations, PCA Parades, a/xs, rallyes, etc. Cars with stories..... thumb3d.gif

Wait 'till you see the upcoming "documentary" on the re-birth of this car. Started it yesterday - pics & stories to follow. Suffice it to say - "yuck!"

Posted by: DarrylD Apr 10 2007, 01:25 AM

I saw (then ordered and received) that Wolfsburg West sells a sheet of stickers fir $12.95 for '68-'79 VW Bugs that has several of the stickers found on the 914, the washer bottle pressure, valve adjustment clearance, 91 octane and 12-volt coil stickers:

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Here's the link: http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=ZVW30

The quality is excellent, they look every bit as good as the originals.

BTW: Here's my front trunk, a work in progress but it did start out black before I repainted the car red:

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I have the missing vapor capture tank and charcoal filter, just need to repaint and reinstall some day.

Darryl D.
http://members.aol.com/darryld/914.htm

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Apr 10 2007, 02:31 PM

autoatlanta has all the original sticker, including the one on the door jamp that displays the indentification number and the manufacture date...they also have all the original motor stickers, etc...

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 17 2007, 04:05 PM

pretty clean
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-JON

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-JON

Jon,

Nice tiger stripes on the headlight motors!

Some have it & some not so pronounced. Nice!
Pat

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 18 2007, 01:54 PM

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Jon,

Nice tiger stripes on the headlight motors!

Some have it & some not so pronounced. Nice!
Pat


uhh...thanks?

Posted by: Jasfsmith Jul 19 2007, 12:26 PM

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Let's start a virtual concours competition - no phototouching permited. Could be fun!


Only if the photos are taken 5 feet away. Nothing closer. <grin>

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 19 2007, 08:38 PM

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Jon,

Nice tiger stripes on the headlight motors!

Some have it & some not so pronounced. Nice!
Pat


uhh...thanks? biggrin.gif -JON


Jon,

I'll explain the tiger stripe thing. I'm certain (& hope) that bliznik will add his comments too.

Original, unmolested headlight motors began to exhibit stripes when they were a couple of years old. Since they curled, they were affectionately labelled "tiger stripes" People like me, who polished the motors to a mirror finish lost the stripes, which are a original". learned my lesson & let them re-oxidize. The stripes came back.

I was one of those people who, though they aborred chrome, would polish everything to a chrome-like finish. In the 80's it was all about bling. Thankfully, I never had anything chrome plated, so it's all back to it's original finish.

Had 2 buds in Cincinnati, who both had the engine tin chrome plated, one a '67 911S & the other a '65 356 Cab. Both cars were amazing to look at, but I always wondered why they did that (both dead now)(both died at the wheel of a Porsche!!!)

The tiger stripes on 914 headlight motors are something you do not want to lose, because they were intended to be there.
Pat

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 19 2007, 09:29 PM

gotcha...

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Nov 21 2007, 06:46 PM

edit: yuck, look at that strut hardware
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 5 2010, 09:23 PM

I'm going over all of these "old" nailed threads, to see if I can piece some model specific areas for incorporating into year-by=year reference material.

I don't see anything specific for 71 models here, not for ANY sixes!

How about guys, can we flood all the old nailed threads with enough pics for all areas to put all the pieces together for each model and year?

Same applies to all the old nailed threads.

Gimme the goods & I'll dump the old threads for something that's better reference material.
Pat

Posted by: windforfun Jan 27 2010, 05:39 PM

Here's my "73 1.7.


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Here's my "73 1.7.

notice the dust cover on the reservoir.and no overflow tube..nice ...I`ll try to post some of my six! its in pretty good shape

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Here's my "73 1.7.

WOW!
I am humbled!
Pat

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Tried to post the other pictures of the boot and there to big ...gonna have to wait tell im at work

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Here's my "73 1.7.

WOW!
I am humbled!
Pat


Thanks. I just wish I could find the leak in the windshield washer system. It doesn't hold pressure & deflates the spare.
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Posted by: 6freak Jan 28 2010, 03:12 PM

all original tools, and bag, manuels, and maintanance records


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 7 2010, 08:21 AM

Very nice indeed; I hope mine looks that nice when it is done.

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I've been wrestling with the name of the original owner of your car for week. And then it hit me - I met him, in 1975. He worked with a Zambezi Army buddy ('73 Zambezi 914) of mine for Shell. Kept thinking of him as "wierd Al", because of his name.

Spent a week with those guys & wonder why I don't have gout.

Pretty certain it was the same guy, but I lost track of my Zambezi Army buddy until 6 years ago - he's retired in Texas & does "boot scuootin" lessons now. Lost track completely of "wierd Al".

Not worth much, but crossing paths is interesting.
Pat

Posted by: Archie May 17 2010, 02:52 AM

Very nice! As for the leaking screen washer, check the control unit on the steering column (It's a bit of a pig to take apart!) Seems to be a weak spot. It's also a good idea to carry a cheapo tyre inflation compressor that runs from the cigarette lighter to keep the spare topped up.

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Here's my "73 1.7.

WOW!
I am humbled!
Pat


Thanks. I just wish I could find the leak in the windshield washer system. It doesn't hold pressure & deflates the spare.
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I've been wrestling with the name of the original owner of your car for week. And then it hit me - I met him, in 1975. He worked with a Zambezi Army buddy ('73 Zambezi 914) of mine for Shell. Kept thinking of him as "wierd Al", because of his name.

Spent a week with those guys & wonder why I don't have gout.

Pretty certain it was the same guy, but I lost track of my Zambezi Army buddy until 6 years ago - he's retired in Texas & does "boot scuootin" lessons now. Lost track completely of "wierd Al".

Not worth much, but crossing paths is interesting.
Pat

sorta like the 6 degree`s of seperation..kinda wierd smile.gif

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 4 2010, 12:47 PM

My 75' trunk, pretty much all stock that I can tell. I also have the original owners manual with dealer stamped service all the way up to 80k miles!

I filled in the 100k service in April when I bought it (Last square).


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Posted by: larss Mar 15 2011, 02:17 PM

My '72 1,7, just painted Bahia Red.

/Lars S

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My '72 1,7, just painted Bahia Red.

/Lars S

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Looks REALLY nice Lars!
Pat

Posted by: gms Mar 17 2011, 09:10 PM

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Final from the front of my '72 - no, it's not freshly repainted.

Pat
What is going on over here?


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 21 2011, 04:22 PM

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Final from the front of my '72 - no, it's not freshly repainted.

Pat
What is going on over here?

They're on both sides. Back in my early auto-x days I put a hefty front stabilizer from Automotion on the car that required drilling for support mounts. Stupid, I know, but relaced it later with an adjustable from H&H. The bolts, washers & seals are the remnants of the first one.

Yes, I drilled holes & will eventually have them filled & repainted. I was very serious about autocross in the days (75-81), and loved the capabilities of the 914 for same.

Then I got this for auto-x.......

Posted by: 6freak Mar 22 2011, 09:02 AM

QUOTE(windforfun @ Jan 27 2010, 04:39 PM) *

Here's my "73 1.7.


I was look`n through box`s the other day and found the dust cover for my brake reservoir biggrin.gif and a bunch of other purchase paper work from the original owner..sweet

Posted by: barada Nov 4 2011, 01:40 PM

Here is mine. 74 914. Was originally White, PO repainted it black. I just stripped it to metal and painted it Nepal orange.


Phillip


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 4 2011, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(barada @ Nov 4 2011, 01:40 PM) *

Here is mine. 74 914. Was originally White, PO repainted it black. I just stripped it to metal and painted it Nepal orange.


Phillip

Exreme makeover! Nicely done. Really!
Pat

Posted by: pete000 Aug 27 2012, 11:27 PM

I am wondering how thick the wood is on the spare tire board?

Also is there a difference between the early cars vs the later ones ?

I noticed my 1970 six has a thicker plywood board and my 1974 has a thinner Masonite board.

Not sure if either is original.


Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 31 2012, 05:04 PM

I too am interested in this topic. Assumed all MY's were the same.

Posted by: sixerdon Aug 31 2012, 06:33 PM

Not sure how thick the wood is, but there are two different shapes. But, I'm not wanting to tear the carpet off mine to find out.
Look at post #23 vs #79 for shape differences. My '75 feels thinner than my '70. Also, it's pretty easy to duplicate for resto purposes no matter what the thickness.

Don

Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 20 2012, 06:22 PM

I just checked mine, a 72. Seems to be about 3/8 inch (or metric equivalent) plywood & is painted black on the bottom side before gluing the carpet down.
Would be interested in knowing if/when they switched to Masonite.
Pat

Posted by: potomacmidget Sep 20 2012, 09:29 PM

Hi All,

I have a 1970 1.7L 914 - and it is missing the ID plate that is near the passenger side headlight housing. The PO showed me that it looked like the front end had been hit in the past and repaired (headlight frame not as perfectly straight as the driver side). I am guessing that the ID plate was damaged or pulled off? The numbers on the windshield and fender well match along with the trunk. Is it possible to obtain a replacement plate? Any advice appreciated.

thanks
Reg

Posted by: porbmw Sep 21 2012, 11:34 AM

Re I.D plates for inner trunk, I think AA sells, or used to sell, them. At least I'm pretty sure they did for the 6.
Hmmm
Re front tire boards. I"m pretty sure the boards changed from plywood to melamine....sometime before 74....and so did the pedal boards...I'm guessing around the same time?

Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 21 2012, 04:19 PM

QUOTE(porbmw @ Sep 21 2012, 11:34 AM) *

Re I.D plates for inner trunk, I think AA sells, or used to sell, them. At least I'm pretty sure they did for the 6.
Hmmm
Re front tire boards. I"m pretty sure the boards changed from plywood to melamine....sometime before 74....and so did the pedal boards...I'm guessing around the same time?


I'd like to hear more on the tire and pedal boards for the later models. Melamine is a plastic-based compound. I's have thought that wood had been continued, though at maybe thinner levels.

Have to wonder if the factory doesn't still have clank ID pltaes (not touching the AA thing), but if they do how many hoops do you have to jump through to get one embossed?

Posted by: cedric9146 Sep 22 2012, 03:38 AM

Have a question:

My 74' 2.0 has never been resprayed. In the front trunk i have some wierd markings.

Under the Vin number i have some numbers creaked in:

9/20/11 HOCA A15 HAS15

Dous anyone knows wat this could be?


Posted by: porbmw Sep 22 2012, 07:42 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 21 2012, 03:19 PM) *

QUOTE(porbmw @ Sep 21 2012, 11:34 AM) *

Re I.D plates for inner trunk, I think AA sells, or used to sell, them. At least I'm pretty sure they did for the 6.
Hmmm
Re front tire boards. I"m pretty sure the boards changed from plywood to melamine....sometime before 74....and so did the pedal boards...I'm guessing around the same time?


I'd like to hear more on the tire and pedal boards for the later models. Melamine is a plastic-based compound. I's have thought that wood had been continued, though at maybe thinner levels.

Have to wonder if the factory doesn't still have clank ID pltaes (not touching the AA thing), but if they do how many hoops do you have to jump through to get one embossed?


When I have a chance, I"ll go digging...
I'm not sure if melamine is the correct term to be used...I borrowed it from this thread. But the stuff is that crappy pressboard cardboard stuff that breaks off in flakes.
I have the leftover parts from a 74..and from what was titled a 73 but may have been very early (since it had the doors without the sidebars)...I'm pretty sure that both of them had the non plywood crap.

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 23 2012, 12:06 PM

QUOTE(cedric9146 @ Sep 22 2012, 02:38 AM) *

Have a question:

My 74' 2.0 has never been resprayed. In the front trunk i have some wierd markings.

Under the Vin number i have some numbers creaked in:

9/20/11 HOCA A15 HAS15

Dous anyone knows wat this could be?

Was this car imported from the US? Can you post a picture?

Maybe something to do with customs and shipping?
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Posted by: OmaPossu Sep 23 2012, 01:05 PM

My previous 914 1,7 -71 has under VIN number:

PHILIPS 22880
No: 10393
BRC: 4/75

Don't know the meaning. Does somebody?

Posted by: Niklas Sep 27 2012, 01:13 PM

Somebody have bougth a new carstereo at BRC.
BRC means Bilradiocenter = www.brc.se.

It have nothing to do with porsche 914.
The stereo was a Philps in GRH700 ?

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Sep 28 2012, 01:15 PM

Yes it was in GRH-700. That makes sense! Thanks, I have tried to figure that out long time. But why to engrave it to inner fender?

Posted by: Niklas Sep 29 2012, 03:00 AM

QUOTE(OmaPossu @ Sep 28 2012, 09:15 PM) *

Yes it was in GRH-700. That makes sense! Thanks, I have tried to figure that out long time. But why to engrave it to inner fender?


I know they did it when they mounted a new stereo in the cars.
WHy i donĀ“t know.

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 2 2012, 06:26 PM

QUOTE(barndoor @ Nov 2 2012, 05:44 PM) *

1975 2.0

Super nice looking front trunk, but something is missing. Let's see, would that be a fuel tank?

BTW, I noticed a bit of staining from the spare. Most, if not all, of that can removed isopropyl alcohol, but use the 70% stuff. The 91 percent stupp will remove some paint too. Wax after doing it.

Where IS your fuel tanl?

Posted by: Peashooter Jan 22 2013, 09:56 AM

Here's a question for you gurus...Regarding the plastic covers that cover the headlight linkage, I have a set of gray covers and a set of black covers. Which are correct for my 1970 914-6? I see that most of the early cars shown have the black. Does it matter?
Thanks, Bill

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 23 2013, 05:30 PM

QUOTE(Peashooter @ Jan 22 2013, 10:56 AM) *

Here's a question for you gurus...Regarding the plastic covers that cover the headlight linkage, I have a set of gray covers and a set of black covers. Which are correct for my 1970 914-6? I see that most of the early cars shown have the black. Does it matter?
Thanks, Bill

Pics of the gray ones would help. Light or dark gray?

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Jan 25 2013, 09:04 AM

Hi guys,
I rarely stray into the originality section, given all the stupid things the PO did to my car - it'll never be original. However, I do appreciate all the information you have post and this section is very entertaining to read!

Question - my car never had the board over the spare tire recess in the front trunk. In fact, I don't even have a spare. I think I can probably cut some plywood to approximate the original piece, but I have no idea how it attaches or stays in position. It appears from the pictures that it rides on top of the curved support pieces at the front of the trunk, but what about at the back, at the trunk firewall? There are no obvious screws or mounts in my car to support the back of that board. Thanks for your help!

-George

Posted by: smg914 Jan 25 2013, 09:38 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jan 23 2013, 03:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Peashooter @ Jan 22 2013, 10:56 AM) *

Here's a question for you gurus...Regarding the plastic covers that cover the headlight linkage, I have a set of gray covers and a set of black covers. Which are correct for my 1970 914-6? I see that most of the early cars shown have the black. Does it matter?
Thanks, Bill

Pics of the gray ones would help. Light or dark gray?

Black is correct for your 6. I don't believe gray was used until 1974.

Posted by: smg914 Jan 25 2013, 09:43 AM

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jan 25 2013, 07:04 AM) *

Hi guys,
I rarely stray into the originality section, given all the stupid things the PO did to my car - it'll never be original. However, I do appreciate all the information you have post and this section is very entertaining to read!

Question - my car never had the board over the spare tire recess in the front trunk. In fact, I don't even have a spare. I think I can probably cut some plywood to approximate the original piece, but I have no idea how it attaches or stays in position. It appears from the pictures that it rides on top of the curved support pieces at the front of the trunk, but what about at the back, at the trunk firewall? There are no obvious screws or mounts in my car to support the back of that board. Thanks for your help!

-George

Hey George,

That board just sits in there. Doesn't attach to anything. I will probably drive a 914 to the Daytona on TV get together on Saturday so you can look at yourself.


Posted by: ThePaintedMan Jan 25 2013, 10:32 AM

Sweet! cheer.gif Looking forward to seeing you again Steve!

QUOTE(smg914 @ Jan 25 2013, 10:43 AM) *

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jan 25 2013, 07:04 AM) *

Hi guys,
I rarely stray into the originality section, given all the stupid things the PO did to my car - it'll never be original. However, I do appreciate all the information you have post and this section is very entertaining to read!

Question - my car never had the board over the spare tire recess in the front trunk. In fact, I don't even have a spare. I think I can probably cut some plywood to approximate the original piece, but I have no idea how it attaches or stays in position. It appears from the pictures that it rides on top of the curved support pieces at the front of the trunk, but what about at the back, at the trunk firewall? There are no obvious screws or mounts in my car to support the back of that board. Thanks for your help!

-George

Hey George,

That board just sits in there. Doesn't attach to anything. I will probably drive a 914 to the Daytona on TV get together on Saturday so you can look at yourself.

Posted by: Peashooter Jan 25 2013, 12:47 PM

Here are the gray ones. Thanks for the info, I'll use the black pair.
Bill

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Posted by: Mhead Jan 9 2014, 12:18 PM

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Posted by: vanlynch Feb 22 2017, 01:47 AM

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what is that hose/line for & what does it connect to?

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Feb 22 2017, 06:05 PM

vanlynch,

That hose appears to be line that connects the windshield washer bottle with the (unconnected) spare tire valve. The tire pressure (theoretically) pressurizes the windshield washer bottle to (theoretically) spray the windshield with washer fluid. The attached photos show that hose in the front trunk of my 1970/4.

Paul


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Posted by: TM_Corey Sep 8 2017, 06:23 PM

Does the vertical carpet tuck under the rubber that runs the width of the top of the wall that separates the gas tank area and the spare tire area?

Posted by: 914Next Sep 10 2017, 10:33 AM

QUOTE(TM_Corey @ Sep 8 2017, 08:23 PM) *

Does the vertical carpet tuck under the rubber that runs the width of the top of the wall that separates the gas tank area and the spare tire area?



Yes. Here are a couple pics. This is original installation in my car.


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Posted by: brcacti Oct 16 2020, 08:01 PM

front trunk with carpet board taken out, windshield water system not hooked up to spare tire.

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Posted by: AndrewBlyholder Apr 18 2021, 10:55 AM

QUOTE


When I have a chance, I"ll go digging...
I'm not sure if melamine is the correct term to be used...I borrowed it from this thread. But the stuff is that crappy pressboard cardboard stuff that breaks off in flakes.
I have the leftover parts from a 74..and from what was titled a 73 but may have been very early (since it had the doors without the sidebars)...I'm pretty sure that both of them had the non plywood crap.


A response from your local retired architect:

Melamine is not the right term. That refers to a version of particle board with a Melamine plastic coating used a lot in cabinets and signage where a good smooth finish is necessary.

What's in our cars is a type of particle board made from pressed sawdust/wood chips. It comes in may variations, depending on the exact texture of the wood particles and the amount of heat and pressure used to form it. Masonite is a common name brand for a version that used a lot of heat and pressure and was very hard and dense. A more generic term for that type is hardboard. The particle board used for cheap shelving is at the low end of that scale. The stuff Porsche used for the pedal boards is somewhere in the middle.

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