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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 24 2006, 07:57 PM
First nailed motor area is 914/6 & 914/4 1.7's. I know it's tough to get great photos, but do your best. Others to follow.
Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 25 2006, 11:33 AM
not mine but nice
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 25 2006, 07:59 PM
not mine but nice
Pretty nice one! Maybe it's the pic, but that drain tube looks like its laying loose?
Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 27 2006, 05:43 PM
Now the later cars. Let's see those original engine bays!
Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 28 2006, 07:08 AM
Yeah lets see them because mine isn't original! Mine is set up with 74 injection and atleast its clean.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 28 2006, 06:53 PM
Yeah lets see them because mine isn't original! Mine is set up with 74 injection and atleast its clean.
Gotta give you that - it IS clean! And nice!
Posted by: tod914 Jul 30 2006, 12:02 PM
Sharp looking engine bay Geoff. Can't help yah here Pat, I removed the air recirulation system. Can actually get my hand in the bay now.
Posted by: type4org Jul 30 2006, 02:31 PM
Mine certainly isn't clean, but from all I know it's original. The car had 24,500 miles when I bought it and had spent probably 85% of its life in storage. I call it the "California emissions madness edition", a 2.0 from 1976. You really can't see all that much in there with the air cleaner in place.
Note the broken water drain funel/hose for the passenger side engine tray drain, I need to duct-tape that in place for the time being 
View from the drivers side:
View from the passenger side:
Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 2 2006, 07:49 PM
I didn't want to do this. Didn't want this to be a "my car" show, but no one else will. So here's mine, dusty & with its faults.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 2 2006, 07:58 PM
I did NOT want to do this, but here's my '72 bay w/all its vagaries!
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 2 2006, 08:03 PM
Hasn't been detailed since 1999.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 2 2006, 08:06 PM
Yes, it's a Blue - & I won't switch!
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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 3 2006, 01:26 PM
Pat was that engine bay sticker always on the firewall? I am not familiar with the early cars, the later cars have them on the side above the relay plate.
What would you change in your engine bay if you were to go through it?
Posted by: tod914 Aug 3 2006, 01:41 PM
Looks nice Pat
Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 3 2006, 07:49 PM
Pat was that engine bay sticker always on the firewall? I am not familiar with the early cars, the later cars have them on the side above the relay plate.
What would you change in your engine bay if you were to go through it?
Jeff,
Yep, that sticker's always been there.
What would/will I change in the engine bay? Lots!
1. When I refinished my engine tin (many years ago!), I gave no regard to the white stampings on the drivers' side. I plan to have a paint stamp made when I can verify the correct number - 610, etc.
2. Same with the oil bath air cleaner - refinished it & destroyed the red pain stamping. Will have a paint stamp made for that too.
3. Since I'm a whacko, I'd really like to have the whole engine bay resprayed. Probably won't, but will get tempted this fall when the motor comes out.
4. Intake tubes. Redid them years ago & put a clearcoat on them - it's yellowing. Will redo when the motor comes out.
5. The battery tray needs some cleanup. It's passable, but not up to my standards. Just needs a little cleanup & respray. I WILL go with an Optima battery hereafter & don't car about any deducts for it.
The one thing I would never change are those cad plated cheesehead screws that are everywhere. Can't remeber what I paid Porsche for replacements. They are really ugly & really period!
Pat
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 3 2006, 09:35 PM
I love the nostalgic vintage look of your engine bay Pat. For me, thats alot of what this hobby is about. I wish I could find those colored hoses somehere, I have looked everywhere. I am tempted to beach out the available gray fabric lines and try to dye them the right color.
I have found a high temp ceramic coating from Techline Coatings (titanium) that is a dead wringer for the stock gray high temp paint on the intake tubes, muffler and heat exchangers, and its more durable. You might look into it.
What is the issue with using new stainless screws, is it that big of a deduct?
Why not change the coil/bracket too?
Posted by: tod914 Aug 3 2006, 10:17 PM
Jeff by chance do u have a source for that paint? Never seen that brand carried out this way.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 4 2006, 02:53 PM
http://www.techlinecoatings.com/
Colorgard Titanium is what you want, an exhaust coating.
Caswell Plating is also a distributor.
They sell to select shops or to the public. There is a listing of shops on their website, if nothing local, contact them, the shop I used uses alot of the techline product and they are not listed on the website. The shops use an oven to bake it on, which is more durable.
Posted by: ChicagoPete Aug 5 2006, 03:00 PM
My Offering...not quite your standard 914/6 engine bay...yet a 914/6
Peter
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 6 2006, 05:48 PM
I love the nostalgic vintage look of your engine bay Pat. For me, thats alot of what this hobby is about. I wish I could find those colored hoses somehere, I have looked everywhere. I am tempted to beach out the available gray fabric lines and try to dye them the right color.
I have found a high temp ceramic coating from Techline Coatings (titanium) that is a dead wringer for the stock gray high temp paint on the intake tubes, muffler and heat exchangers, and its more durable. You might look into it.
What is the issue with using new stainless screws, is it that big of a deduct?
Why not change the coil/bracket too?
Thanks for the tip on the Techline Coatings stuff - will try it when the motor comes out this fall.
Stainless screws are not orig. They make perfect sense, but will most likely get you a deduct in high-end competition. The ugly cad plated "cheesheads" are orig.
Umm, my coil bracket is original!
Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 6 2006, 05:50 PM
My Offering...not quite your standard 914/6 engine bay...yet a 914/6
Peter
Nicely done!
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 7 2006, 11:39 AM
Engine compartment details on a '70/4.....adhesive sticker on driver's side, uninsulated bulkhead wall. (Jeesh, lookit those tire pressure #s 
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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 7 2006, 11:50 AM
Here's another detail from a '70/4.......pardon the non-concours presentation but it is original.....this is on the engine sheetmetal, driver's side. Anyone know the significance of these markings?
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 7 2006, 07:37 PM
Here's another detail from a '70/4.......pardon the non-concours presentation but it is original.....this is on the engine sheetmetal, driver's side. Anyone know the significance of these markings?
Someone MUST know what these markings mean & which apply to which engine. I know there are many variations & know what mine were originally (long gone), but what were they?
By the way Paul - you need new cheesheads.
Posted by: 914runnow Aug 9 2006, 09:13 PM
I didn't want to do this. Didn't want this to be a "my car" show, but no one else will. So here's mine, dusty & with its faults.
Stoddards NLA 'Grey' exhuast/intake tubes ..
In Quarts or spray can..Dead Ringer
Posted by: Nemo914 Aug 11 2006, 01:48 PM
The photo in the first posted picture is mine. I think I put in on the forum a long time back for...I don't remember what. It is from my 72 1.7. I have kept it as stock as possible over the years. The relay to help the starter out on hot days (mounted on the left sidewall) is about the only thing that is not original to a 1.7 engine bay. Every vacuum hose even goes where it is supposed to!
Love the concours section. I don't get on here enough to see what's going on. Good stuff!
NEMO
Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 18 2006, 06:16 PM
ok, its yours then as I will label it then as a 72 1.7L in my pic files. sweet setup
Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 21 2006, 07:12 PM
Yeah lets see them because mine isn't original! Mine is set up with 74 injection and atleast its clean.
Geoff,
What is the black coating on your battery tray?
Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 22 2006, 09:30 AM
A rustproofing primer and it has been painted since that pic was taken.
Posted by: Garland Nov 12 2006, 11:07 AM
I refinished the bay and engine. 1972 1.7 in a 1973 car. The white intakes are the wrong color, but everything else is correct. The hangers for the air tubes are custom. Helps keep them off the engine.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 12 2006, 09:36 PM
I refinished the bay and engine. 1972 1.7 in a 1973 car. The white intakes are the wrong color, but everything else is correct. The hangers for the air tubes are custom. Helps keep them off the engine.
Have to say that is a clean motor top. The white intake tubes, though not orig, are kinda nice. The air tubes are all wrong though. Not talking about the hangers, but the tube material - not correct. Nice, nevertheless!
Posted by: dekman Jan 6 2007, 05:05 PM
'70 914-6 w/ a 3.0Lwith 46mm webers
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Posted by: mrhurtalot Jan 18 2007, 04:05 AM
any tips on Engine bay cleaning? like to have it nicer in there.
Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 18 2007, 09:25 PM
any tips on Engine bay cleaning? like to have it nicer in there.
mrhutrtlot.
Yes - two ways - and you'll hurtalot either way!
Method one - remove motor/trans. 2 hour cleanup from inside the bay (on jack stands). Do not use cleaning fluids that will render you duh or huh? Don't need them with contemporary chemicals, though I'd still wear a respirator. Really easy w/the motor out.
Method two - motor in. Lots more difficult, but can be done. Foremost, get a set of el-cheapo kneepads, and wear latex or rubber gloves. Why, becauseas you dig into the engine compartment you'll use your knees for bracing. Without the kneepads you'll make compression dents in the quarters. It's amazing what you can reach if you're not afraid of hurting the car, so dig in. First, remove everything removable (you didn't say what year your 914 was). Air filter, etc. Clean them separately. Then just tak some clean terry rags & start dgging for goo - you'll find plenty. Unless you're barely over 5 feet tall (like SOME people I know) you should be able to reach every cranny in there. After you've mopped up the really loose stuff, go back with another set of cloths lightly soaked in something like SimpleGreen or 409 (no solvents). Wipe until you come up with nothing. Take another fresh set of cloths (terry preferred) & do it again. I know it's simplistic sounding, but you need to reach into every fore/aft & side areas to do this - takes lots of rags & the wife will REALLY bitch when you throw them into the washer (trust me!). If you're forttunate, you'll have slim fingers to get under thigs like the induction tubes. If you're even MORE fortunate, you'll get your significant other involved to do this - they DO have very tiny fingers, that can get into places we gorillas cannot. Just be certain that the significant other realizes the daintiness of 914 bodywork - best to ask them to wear the kneepads & nothing else, so they don't hurt the bodywork. Worked ONCE for me - wish I'd taken pictures....or not.
Posted by: Dominic Jan 27 2007, 12:21 PM
This picture is from a 73' 2.0L that we sold a few years ago.
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Posted by: Series9 Jan 27 2007, 01:25 PM
Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 27 2007, 08:42 PM
You KNEW this had to be coming....
Not even close to original (though nice). Verbotten on this forum.
To be deleted shortly, unless someone can give a reason not to.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 Feb 8 2007, 10:46 AM
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Posted by: sean_v8_914 Feb 8 2007, 11:04 AM
I believe this 1972 1.7 image to be significant because it shows teh "stove pipe" intake pre-heater
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Posted by: sean_v8_914 Feb 8 2007, 11:05 AM
messy but close to original config
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 18 2007, 04:45 PM
messy but close to original config
Where's the heater blower & heat routing tubes?
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Mar 30 2007, 10:07 PM
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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jun 19 2007, 04:51 PM
Unfortunately Pat has managed to get me off my a** 
. Call the previous photos before & call these after... More to come.
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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jun 19 2007, 04:54 PM
Battery tray replacement is obvious . I have to find something closer, tape it off & shoot to match.
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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jun 19 2007, 04:56 PM
Last one, a top shot. Not done cleaning yet by a long shot, but it's like a time capsule from 1974.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jun 21 2007, 06:11 PM
Last one, a top shot. Not done cleaning yet by a long shot, but it's like a time capsule from 1974.
JB.
Is that a Bosche Blue coil? On an original 914 (LE, no less)? Shame, shame, shame!
Just kidding! I heard so much grief about mine that I thought spread the shame (like I'm going back to the original....).
Good stuff - let us know how lucky you are with respraying the battery tray area.
Pat
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jun 21 2007, 07:16 PM
Last one, a top shot. Not done cleaning yet by a long shot, but it's like a time capsule from 1974.
JB.
Is that a Bosche Blue coil? On an original 914 (LE, no less)? Shame, shame, shame!
Just kidding! I heard so much grief about mine that I thought spread the shame (like I'm going back to the original....).
Good stuff - let us know how lucky you are with respraying the battery tray area.
Pat
Pat- found some 1110 on the internet & ordered 2 cans. Just going to do the battery side & hopefully it'll match. If it does then I'll work on the front right fender well, inside the front trunk & smooth that out a bit. I was thinking of painting the coil black just to make it look better. I also landed a set of powder coated heating ducts on eBay & was going to replace my old oxidized ones. I've got SS heat exchagers. Should look very clean. I was reading in another thread that you plan on attending Parade in NC next year? So do I... got a buddy who lives there & I managed to talk his wife into giving me her garage space for a week next year
. Posted by: Pat Garvey Jun 21 2007, 08:55 PM
Last one, a top shot. Not done cleaning yet by a long shot, but it's like a time capsule from 1974.
JB.
Is that a Bosche Blue coil? On an original 914 (LE, no less)? Shame, shame, shame!
Just kidding! I heard so much grief about mine that I thought spread the shame (like I'm going back to the original....).
Good stuff - let us know how lucky you are with respraying the battery tray area.
Pat
Pat- found some 1110 on the internet & ordered 2 cans. Just going to do the battery side & hopefully it'll match. If it does then I'll work on the front right fender well, inside the front trunk & smooth that out a bit. I was thinking of painting the coil black just to make it look better. I also landed a set of powder coated heating ducts on eBay & was going to replace my old oxidized ones. I've got SS heat exchagers. Should look very clean. I was reading in another thread that you plan on attending Parade in NC next year? So do I... got a buddy who lives there & I managed to talk his wife into giving me her garage space for a week next year
.JB,
Yep, I'll be there. First Parade since '93 (which I was concours chair at). Already at work for it. Won 2 - want #3.
Any chance I can get a corner of that garge space? (just kidding). If I were you, i wouldn't paint the coil black - most every decent judge expects the 356/912/914 coils to be replaced with "blues". Wouldn't worry about it. Do the heating ducts, though.
Oh man, this will be fun! Lotsa folks I've known & lotsa folks I've never met (just yacked with) should be there. Who cares who wins! We all do anyway.
I'm buying a bottle of Craganmore for the winner. Course, if it's me, I get it all to myself!
Pat
Posted by: bembry Jun 30 2007, 05:26 PM
Concerning the big black firewall pad in the engine bay--did all cars get them? Mine had one, but was nasty with overspray paint from who knows what. Also, my firewall has rust, so I just pulled the pad, at least for now.
Posted by: d7n7master Jul 6 2007, 10:13 PM
I took these pics 'cause I know it's never gonna look quite like this again. 
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Posted by: d7n7master Jul 6 2007, 10:49 PM
Concerning the big black firewall pad in the engine bay--did all cars get them? Mine had one, but was nasty with overspray paint from who knows what. Also, my firewall has rust, so I just pulled the pad, at least for now.
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Mine had it too. Stock?
I don't know. I had to remove it to look for rust. Got lucky. No rust behind it. Extra bad place for rust to hide. Cleaned, prepped & Por15'd everything & replaced the sound-pad with a much lighter replacement. Edge seal is direct from Home Depot - Hard as Nails Sealer (stuff rockz-but slow set time) 3 coats of Por15 behind the pad.
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jul 7 2007, 07:58 AM
Concerning the big black firewall pad in the engine bay--did all cars get them? Mine had one, but was nasty with overspray paint from who knows what. Also, my firewall has rust, so I just pulled the pad, at least for now.
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Mine had it too. Stock?
I don't know. I had to remove it to look for rust. Got lucky. No rust behind it. Extra bad place for rust to hide. Cleaned, prepped & Por15'd everything & replaced the sound-pad with a much lighter replacement. Edge seal is direct from Home Depot - Hard as Nails Sealer (stuff rockz-but slow set time) 3 coats of Por15 behind the pad.Yes, the black pad is stock, heavy & is prone to retaining moisture. It should be replaced w/ better materials, unless the word concours rears it's ugly head around you & your loved ones. Then you'd better find a way to clean off the overspray & put it back looking very unmolested.
Posted by: orthobiz Jul 7 2007, 08:48 AM
If I were you, i wouldn't paint the coil black - most every decent judge expects the 356/912/914 coils to be replaced with "blues". Pat
So, Pat, guess that means you wouldn't show up with a black one just to be more original, eh?
Anyway, my car is pretty unmolested and has a blue coil. Did all 914's come without the blue coil, i.e. blue coils are simply NOT original?
Paul
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jul 7 2007, 09:35 AM
So, Pat, guess that means you wouldn't show up with a black one just to be more original, eh?
Anyway, my car is pretty unmolested and has a blue coil. Did all 914's come without the blue coil, i.e. blue coils are simply NOT original?
Paul
Paul- as far as I know all 914s came w/ a regular Bosch black coil. It was a fairly common practice to upgrade to a blue the 1st time your blackie burned out or some other related distributor woes. Common for VWs' & 911s' as well. Blues were cheaper over a stock/dealer blackie & had more spark. As for Pat I don't trust him either, I think he's already shot it black
. Has he used the right kind is my question- flat, satin or gloss? I ain't saying !
Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 7 2007, 07:53 PM
So, Pat, guess that means you wouldn't show up with a black one just to be more original, eh?
Anyway, my car is pretty unmolested and has a blue coil. Did all 914's come without the blue coil, i.e. blue coils are simply NOT original?
Paul
Paul- as far as I know all 914s came w/ a regular Bosch black coil. It was a fairly common practice to upgrade to a blue the 1st time your blackie burned out or some other related distributor woes. Common for VWs' & 911s' as well. Blues were cheaper over a stock/dealer blackie & had more spark. As for Pat I don't trust him either, I think he's already shot it black
. Has he used the right kind is my question- flat, satin or gloss? I ain't saying !Oh, that's so ugly & so unneccesary. You think I'd scam you guys about a simple coil? Nope, I'll take the hit for the blue. Course, I still have my original coil & I COULD put it back on........no paint necessary. I COULD show up on Friday with the "blue" & replace it quickly with the orig for Monday. Now, there's a thought.
But nope! No support vehicle loaded with parts. It will be show as it left Philly. No scams!
Pat
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jul 7 2007, 07:59 PM
Oh, that's so ugly & so unneccesary. You think I'd scam you guys about a simple coil? Nope, I'll take the hit for the blue. Course, I still have my original coil & I COULD put it back on........no paint necessary. I COULD show up on Friday with the "blue" & replace it quickly with the orig for Monday. Now, there's a thought.
But nope! No support vehicle loaded with parts. It will be show as it left Philly. No scams!
Pat
Forive us Pat, we're just havin fun @ your expense. Foolish children, cause nothin matters till the fat lady sings & you know it
!Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 7 2007, 08:31 PM
Oh, that's so ugly & so unneccesary. You think I'd scam you guys about a simple coil? Nope, I'll take the hit for the blue. Course, I still have my original coil & I COULD put it back on........no paint necessary. I COULD show up on Friday with the "blue" & replace it quickly with the orig for Monday. Now, there's a thought.
But nope! No support vehicle loaded with parts. It will be show as it left Philly. No scams!
Pat
Forive us Pat, we're just havin fun @ your expense. Foolish children, cause nothin matters till the fat lady sings & you know it
!Funny thing about sarcasm on the web - you can't apply facialisms (if that's a word). I WAS being sarcastic - no harm done - it was a joke (as was yours).
I learned MANY years ago, if you're going to dish it out - expect it in return. In fact, I appreciate it - it's how we bond! Have all the fun you want at my expense Al. See Eric's brake thread for my response!
And, it's all in good fun, though your brakes really suck!
Pat
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Oct 23 2007, 03:12 PM
A 1970 1.7..........
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Posted by: rdauenhauer Feb 25 2008, 11:22 PM
Now THAT is nice! 
Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 26 2008, 07:29 PM
A 1970 1.7..........
Umm, without trying to arouse the wrath of all who think this is purty (and it definitely is), those hoses to & from the heater blower are suspect. Shouldn'y those be black plastic?
Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 6 2008, 09:14 PM
I love the nostalgic vintage look of your engine bay Pat. For me, thats alot of what this hobby is about. I wish I could find those colored hoses somehere, I have looked everywhere. I am tempted to beach out the available gray fabric lines and try to dye them the right color.
I have found a high temp ceramic coating from Techline Coatings (titanium) that is a dead wringer for the stock gray high temp paint on the intake tubes, muffler and heat exchangers, and its more durable. You might look into it.
What is the issue with using new stainless screws, is it that big of a deduct?
Why not change the coil/bracket too?
I was cruising through old posts & realized that I'd never responded to the "colored hoses" issue. With help of wife, we re-dyed all but the green hoses some years back. I wouldn't bleach them because it would play hell with the rubber. We re-dyed the black & red hoses, after a good soaking in mild detergent & letting them dry, with RIT dye. They worked out really well, but that's been more than 15 years ago, and they've faded again.
Getting ready to replace all the reds & blacks from AA, just because of age & potential vac leaks. Wish I could find the green!
Pat
Posted by: dw914er Mar 7 2008, 01:59 AM
ill take some photos when i work on the 1.7 next week to fix some intake runner leaks
cept for the blue bosch, most of the motor is pretty stock on its appearance
though very dirty, 230,000 miles, and 35 years later, its not as clean as it once was
Posted by: zonedoubt Apr 27 2008, 10:10 AM
Can someone with a '75 1.8L post photos of original engine bay including EGR system? I'm putting mine back together and need some clues about component placement. I have the vacuum diagram which is great but it doesn't say how or where EGR is mounted, etc.
Posted by: AvalonFal Jun 15 2008, 05:50 PM
Can't help with a 1.8L, but here's my '74 2.0L in progress, and getting there.
Paul
Posted by: Lavanaut Sep 12 2008, 01:41 PM
Fun thread, but awfully light on originality! And not even one factory /6 engine bay...
Who's got the cleanest /6 out there? Would be nice to have some engine shots as a reference.
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Nov 11 2008, 02:26 PM
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A 1970 1.7..........
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Umm, without trying to arouse the wrath of all who think this is purty (and it definitely is), those hoses to & from the heater blower are suspect. Shouldn'y those be black plastic?
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Better?
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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Nov 11 2008, 02:28 PM
...from the other side
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Posted by: HaraldD Nov 28 2008, 01:24 PM
914-6 Engine Bay
Posted by: 6freak Jan 6 2009, 12:50 PM
'70 914-6 w/ a 3.0Lwith 46mm webers
that coil is upside down i heard this is not good...Mine is mounted that very same way in the very same spot
Posted by: 6freak Jan 6 2009, 12:53 PM
914-6 Engine Bayyet another one mounted the same way?????????????
Posted by: 6freak Jan 6 2009, 03:56 PM
914-6 Engine Bayyet another one mounted the same way?????????????
Posted by: 6freak Jan 7 2009, 11:33 AM
914-6 Engine Bayyet another one mounted the same way?????????????
Can someone give me an awnser on this! Coil upside down good or bad??
Posted by: 6freak Jan 7 2009, 04:08 PM
914-6 Engine Bayyet another one mounted the same way?????????????
Can someone give me an awnser on this! Coil upside down good or bad??
Well!!...... someone anyone ....
Posted by: Lavanaut Jan 7 2009, 04:13 PM
Dude. How many times are you going to quote that picture into this thread? 
You're asking a valid question, but try asking it in the garage...this really isn't the spot. Plus not too many people view these threads.
Posted by: 6freak Jan 7 2009, 04:17 PM
Dude. How many times are you going to quote that picture into this thread?
You're asking a valid question, but try asking it in the garage...this really isn't the spot. Plus not too many people view these threads.
Ok thanks i will try another way ....still green at this stuff
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 19 2009, 07:40 AM
porsche coil - good
msd coil - bad
Harold , the MM sticker is awesome, Is tha a factory GT engine also ?
Posted by: HaraldD Jan 19 2009, 12:41 PM
Hello!
The sticker is original from the 70` :-)
It was on the Airfilter when i bought the Car. The Engine isn`t a Factory GT. The Porsche Dealer Max Moritz build it up to a 2,0 "S" with ALu/Nicasil Pistons and Cylinders, S Cams, Forged Rockers, S Crankshaft, Weber IDS and some other Goodies...all back 1970.
It have about 185 HP..... :-)
If you want more:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=8&view=findpost&p=1106630
Harald 
Harold , the MM sticker is awesome, Is tha a factory GT engine also ?
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 29 2009, 08:18 PM
Fun thread, but awfully light on originality! And not even one factory /6 engine bay...
Who's got the cleanest /6 out there? Would be nice to have some engine shots as a reference.
I agree!!
Calling James Smith.....show us the engine compartment of the Swissie. You won Parade twice, so show us the goods.
Pat
Posted by: Jasfsmith Aug 31 2009, 08:19 AM
Fun thread, but awfully light on originality! And not even one factory /6 engine bay...
Who's got the cleanest /6 out there? Would be nice to have some engine shots as a reference.
I agree!!
Calling James Smith.....show us the engine compartment of the Swissie. You won Parade twice, so show us the goods.
Pat
I'll comply when I final learn how to take proper pictures of the engine compartment which hide all the grease and dirt...
(My past attempts at engine and interior compartment photos have failed miserably. Either took dark, or washed out from the flash. I'll give it another try. I can always edit the dirt out with photo shop.)
Posted by: tod914 Aug 31 2009, 10:08 AM
James just a suggestion, take the car outside. Turn the camera flash off, set to 200 or 400. Might be a touch dark, but if you want I can correct them if you like. Alittle work around you can try is, point the lens to a dark area in the bay. Then hold the shutter button 1/2 way to lock the exposure, then shift the lense to the area you want to shoot (while keeping the button 1/2 way down), then fully depress and take your your shot. Hopefully that will work for you.
Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 31 2009, 09:21 PM
Fun thread, but awfully light on originality! And not even one factory /6 engine bay...
Who's got the cleanest /6 out there? Would be nice to have some engine shots as a reference.
I agree!!
Calling James Smith.....show us the engine compartment of the Swissie. You won Parade twice, so show us the goods.
Pat
I'll comply when I final learn how to take proper pictures of the engine compartment which hide all the grease and dirt...
(My past attempts at engine and interior compartment photos have failed miserably. Either took dark, or washed out from the flash. I'll give it another try. I can always edit the dirt out with photo shop.)
And you dump on me for MY excuses........
Pat
Posted by: euro911 Nov 14 2009, 01:11 AM
Pat, did you ever have those paint stamps made up?
Is there a difference in the air filter top stamp from 70 ~ 7x?
I painted over the mostly-faded lettering on the air filter top when I 'spruced-up' some of the tin parts on my wife's 71 1.7L last year (mainly to keep the rust at bay). When it comes time for a total rebuild/restoration, I'd like to re-stamp the air cleaner and the left-side engine tin too.
Until that happens, this is pretty much how it will look 
Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 18 2009, 09:16 PM
2. Same with the oil bath air cleaner - refinished it & destroyed the red pain stamping. Will have a paint stamp made for that too.
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Pat
Pat, did you ever have those paint stamps made up?
Is there a difference in the air filter top stamp from 70 ~ 7x?
I painted over the mostly-faded lettering on the air filter top when I 'spruced-up' some of the tin parts on my wife's 71 1.7L last year (mainly to keep the rust at bay). When it comes time for a total rebuild/restoration, I'd like to re-stamp the air cleaner and the left-side engine tin too.
Until that happens, this is pretty much how it will look
No, I still haven't done it yet, though I am working on the artwork for "610".
Fairly certain that the text on the oil bath aircleaners was constant through the, and until, the changeover to filters. One of these days.....
Pat
Posted by: 70_914 Mar 2 2010, 12:46 PM
porsche coil - good
msd coil - bad
Harold , the MM sticker is awesome, Is tha a factory GT engine also ?
Oil filled coil, any brand - upside down is bad
Epoxy coil, any brand - upside down is fine
Shake your coil and you will know if it is epoxy or oil filled.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 27 2011, 10:40 AM
Is this correct mounting for the AAR?
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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 27 2011, 06:57 PM
Is this correct mounting for the AAR?
Yep
Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 28 2011, 10:13 AM
Is this correct mounting for the AAR?
Considering its the Decel valve not the AAR valve its correct. The AAR valve mounts on the engine.
How you mount the MPS (nose forward or back) is dependent on the vents on it. Do not mount it with the vents facing up! They fill up with dirt, grime and water!
Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 26 2011, 09:05 AM
Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 20 2012, 10:20 AM
any tips on Engine bay cleaning? like to have it nicer in there.
mrhutrtlot.
Yes - two ways - and you'll hurtalot either way!
Method one - remove motor/trans. 2 hour cleanup from inside the bay (on jack stands). Do not use cleaning fluids that will render you duh or huh? Don't need them with contemporary chemicals, though I'd still wear a respirator. Really easy w/the motor out.
Method two - motor in. Lots more difficult, but can be done. Foremost, get a set of el-cheapo kneepads, and wear latex or rubber gloves. Why, becauseas you dig into the engine compartment you'll use your knees for bracing. Without the kneepads you'll make compression dents in the quarters. It's amazing what you can reach if you're not afraid of hurting the car, so dig in. First, remove everything removable (you didn't say what year your 914 was). Air filter, etc. Clean them separately. Then just tak some clean terry rags & start dgging for goo - you'll find plenty. Unless you're barely over 5 feet tall (like SOME people I know) you should be able to reach every cranny in there. After you've mopped up the really loose stuff, go back with another set of cloths lightly soaked in something like SimpleGreen or 409 (no solvents). Wipe until you come up with nothing. Take another fresh set of cloths (terry preferred) & do it again. I know it's simplistic sounding, but you need to reach into every fore/aft & side areas to do this - takes lots of rags & the wife will REALLY bitch when you throw them into the washer (trust me!). If you're forttunate, you'll have slim fingers to get under thigs like the induction tubes. If you're even MORE fortunate, you'll get your significant other involved to do this - they DO have very tiny fingers, that can get into places we gorillas cannot. Just be certain that the significant other realizes the daintiness of 914 bodywork - best to ask them to wear the kneepads & nothing else, so they don't hurt the bodywork. Worked ONCE for me - wish I'd taken pictures....or not.
Pardon my ignorance, Pat, but how about using Gunk (brand) engine degreaser and then Gunk engine detailer? Any harm there?
Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 21 2012, 07:42 PM
any tips on Engine bay cleaning? like to have it nicer in there.
mrhutrtlot.
Yes - two ways - and you'll hurtalot either way!
Method one - remove motor/trans. 2 hour cleanup from inside the bay (on jack stands). Do not use cleaning fluids that will render you duh or huh? Don't need them with contemporary chemicals, though I'd still wear a respirator. Really easy w/the motor out.
Method two - motor in. Lots more difficult, but can be done. Foremost, get a set of el-cheapo kneepads, and wear latex or rubber gloves. Why, becauseas you dig into the engine compartment you'll use your knees for bracing. Without the kneepads you'll make compression dents in the quarters. It's amazing what you can reach if you're not afraid of hurting the car, so dig in. First, remove everything removable (you didn't say what year your 914 was). Air filter, etc. Clean them separately. Then just tak some clean terry rags & start dgging for goo - you'll find plenty. Unless you're barely over 5 feet tall (like SOME people I know) you should be able to reach every cranny in there. After you've mopped up the really loose stuff, go back with another set of cloths lightly soaked in something like SimpleGreen or 409 (no solvents). Wipe until you come up with nothing. Take another fresh set of cloths (terry preferred) & do it again. I know it's simplistic sounding, but you need to reach into every fore/aft & side areas to do this - takes lots of rags & the wife will REALLY bitch when you throw them into the washer (trust me!). If you're forttunate, you'll have slim fingers to get under thigs like the induction tubes. If you're even MORE fortunate, you'll get your significant other involved to do this - they DO have very tiny fingers, that can get into places we gorillas cannot. Just be certain that the significant other realizes the daintiness of 914 bodywork - best to ask them to wear the kneepads & nothing else, so they don't hurt the bodywork. Worked ONCE for me - wish I'd taken pictures....or not.
Pardon my ignorance, Pat, but how about using Gunk (brand) engine degreaser and then Gunk engine detailer? Any harm there?
I have no experience with Gunk detailer, but will tell you that any product with solvents in it will wreak havoc on older/newer rubber parts...keep it away from these parts (they get more expensive to replace every year, if they are still available). i.e., never let petro solvents near any boots or seals. I still prefer Simple Green for these instances, though wear gloves.
Gunk, brake cleaner, etc. is fine for cleaning/detailing parts such as tranny/engine casings. Just be careful of overspray, since it may discolor painted and ruin rubber parts. Wear a mask too - that stuff (unprotected) could leave your lungs with problems down the road. Whatever you decide to use never, ever, ever use acetone (MEK - methyl ethyl ketone). It works better than anything else, but you may as well throw your lungs on the floor (even with a mask), and it is as explosive as can be. I know - been there.
Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 21 2012, 08:12 PM
Thank you Pat for your advice and suggestions. 
Posted by: VG-914 Aug 2 2018, 11:34 AM
Method two - motor in.
Helps to remove rear trunk and engine covers too! Drop cardboard in the trunk and have a seat for your cleaning efforts!
Posted by: 73-914 Aug 3 2018, 04:47 PM
Used to use MEK in fiberglass boat building, very NASTY stuff
Posted by: JawjaPorsche Nov 13 2018, 06:55 PM
Red spark plug wires not original but I like how they bring color to the bay plus I like how they are not laying on the engine. Air intakes are a larger grey too.
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Posted by: AHudson Feb 19 2019, 11:12 PM
Currently have an empty engine bay, but the re-marriage has been announced!
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Posted by: altitude411 Mar 29 2019, 08:10 PM
that looks damn nice... 
Posted by: gturner008 Jun 6 2020, 08:40 AM
Battery tray - original. Just touch up paint
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