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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 11 2006, 05:03 PM

The diff's between model year interiors were minimal, so let's place photos of all of them here. Someone start! Early years - let's see the passenger footrest.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 18 2006, 07:39 PM

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OK.....we've gone a week w/no response from any of you. I was really hoping for a 70-71 black or brown interior first, so we could see the differences, but I guess you're all on vacation? Or, don't give a sh_t.

With that in mind, here's a '72 original interior - left-to-right first.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 18 2006, 07:47 PM

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....."mousefuzz" headliner & moveable passenger seat pics


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 18 2006, 08:08 PM

Finally - view from the right, Blaupunkt Frankfurt, maintenance records &......OT stablemate


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Posted by: Bleyseng Aug 23 2006, 09:04 AM

My 76 with a six combo gauge, Momo and the wrong color carpet. Everything else is stock.


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Posted by: 914runnow Aug 23 2006, 10:20 PM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 11 2006, 03:03 PM) *

The diff's between model year interiors were minimal, so let's place photos of all of them here. Someone start! Early years - let's see the passenger footrest.

Hey there Mr Pat....
Uhmmmm there were a ton of differences in color.....
seat inserts....
Types of carpet and weave
and vinyl used too..
Also the thickness and styles of the vinyl...
Maybe I am not getting your gist above...
Please enlighten me..Thanx Rx
PS your car looks awesome!!

Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 24 2006, 02:29 PM

QUOTE(914runnow @ Aug 24 2006, 12:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 11 2006, 03:03 PM) *

The diff's between model year interiors were minimal, so let's place photos of all of them here. Someone start! Early years - let's see the passenger footrest.

Hey there Mr Pat....
Uhmmmm there were a ton of differences in color.....
seat inserts....
Types of carpet and weave
and vinyl used too..
Also the thickness and styles of the vinyl...
Maybe I am not getting your gist above...
Please enlighten me..Thanx Rx
PS your car looks awesome!!

You are absolutely right! The more I think about, the more things I can come up with that WERE different in the various interiors. Don't know how we can show something like vartiations in thickness of vinyl, but can sure show things like footrests, consoles, knobs and those plaid interiors of the late models.

I hope we get to see all those & more right here!


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 24 2006, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Aug 23 2006, 11:04 AM) *

My 76 with a six combo gauge, Momo and the wrong color carpet. Everything else is stock.

Great color combination!


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Posted by: ChicagoPete Aug 24 2006, 02:41 PM

Pat, I posted the picture of my 914/6 engine in one of your previous threads...not original to factory standards, but...again here is another few pictures for your new topic.

An interior refinished to concours, yes an original 914/6 but, to GT concours

Peter


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Posted by: RustyWa Aug 24 2006, 11:16 PM

Not mine, but a beautiful '74.




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Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 25 2006, 05:45 PM

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Pat, I posted the picture of my 914/6 engine in one of your previous threads...not original to factory standards, but...again here is another few pictures for your new topic.

An interior refinished to concours, yes an original 914/6 but, to GT concours

Peter

Peter,

Lust, lust lust! Gorgeous!

I am NOT an expert on GT's, but tell us about the steering wheel( & anything else we should know).

Posted by: Pat Garvey Aug 25 2006, 06:23 PM

QUOTE(RustyWa @ Aug 25 2006, 01:16 AM) *

Not mine, but a beautiful '74.

Jeez! Who's 914 is that? It's beautiful!

Posted by: Bleyseng Aug 26 2006, 09:49 AM

Eric, don't you have any pics of the Green 75's interior???

Posted by: RustyWa Aug 26 2006, 10:55 PM

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Aug 26 2006, 08:49 AM) *

Eric, don't you have any pics of the Green 75's interior???


I have a few photos but, for some reason, none of them ever did the interior justice. Here's one. The interior is much better looking than this in my opinion. The blacks are much blacker, and the carpet is darker.

Not sure if you noticed, but the car is for sale again.


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Posted by: Toast Aug 26 2006, 11:09 PM

I just ordered yellow plaid material for my seats. I will post before pix on Monday, and after pics when finished.....pobably in a week or two. I do not believe that the blue/black checkered seat cusions were the originals in my 73 yellow (duh), but they are pretty worn.
Maybe someone here can identify what year/color sceme they were for. idea.gif


Also, I know of someone who has a blue/yellow/white checkered in a cream 70 914. I'll try to get a pic of that one too.

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Sep 13 2006, 03:36 PM

Except for the A/M steering wheel, original '70/4, delivered w/o tethered footrest. Pat, do I get extra credit for having "original" dash material coming loose from "original" factory adhesive? piratenanner.gif


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 13 2006, 07:40 PM

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Except for the A/M steering wheel, original '70/4, delivered w/o tethered footrest. Pat, do I get extra credit for having "original" dash material coming loose from "original" factory adhesive? piratenanner.gif

Paul,
Nein, nein nein. Unless you the certificate of authenticity for the glue! Else, how do we know it's not a bag Gorilla Glue job?


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Posted by: 914runnow Sep 17 2006, 10:44 PM

QUOTE(Toast @ Aug 26 2006, 09:09 PM) *

I just ordered yellow plaid material for my seats. I will post before pix on Monday, and after pics when finished.....pobably in a week or two. I do not believe that the blue/black checkered seat cusions were the originals in my 73 yellow (duh), but they are pretty worn.
Maybe someone here can identify what year/color sceme they were for. idea.gif


Also, I know of someone who has a blue/yellow/white checkered in a cream 70 914. I'll try to get a pic of that one too.

I have the dealer 71-72-73-74-75 interior charts..
72 thru 74....all had the perf leatherette BASKET WEAVE (vinyl)
OR corduory seat inlays in beige/brown/black...70/71 were different..Solid
in the leatherette..As too were the door panels..
The bolsters etc. ..were ALL leatherette (vinyl) to match
the other colors...NOTE that 70 and 71 had had the thickest vinyl..
AND had more of an 'elephant ear' type of grain to it..
BTW..Needle Loom is the proper factory term for what we all
call Perlon...Big Diff came in 74 on the seats with the heat seam as opposed to the sewn seam on the inlays..
75 saw the crazy Tartan inlays and White available!!
BTW the vinyl thru out, got much thinner in 75 and 76..
AND the Beige color was a few shades to the orangish/brown type
of tone...Also with the thinner vinyl came 'grain' differences too...yepperz tons of differences...that above is just a small portion..

Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 20 2006, 07:59 PM

QUOTE(914runnow @ Sep 18 2006, 12:44 AM) *

QUOTE(Toast @ Aug 26 2006, 09:09 PM) *

I just ordered yellow plaid material for my seats. I will post before pix on Monday, and after pics when finished.....pobably in a week or two. I do not believe that the blue/black checkered seat cusions were the originals in my 73 yellow (duh), but they are pretty worn.
Maybe someone here can identify what year/color sceme they were for. idea.gif


Also, I know of someone who has a blue/yellow/white checkered in a cream 70 914. I'll try to get a pic of that one too.

I have the dealer 71-72-73-74-75 interior charts..
72 thru 74....all had the perf leatherette BASKET WEAVE (vinyl)
OR corduory seat inlays in beige/brown/black...70/71 were different..Solid
in the leatherette..As too were the door panels..
The bolsters etc. ..were ALL leatherette (vinyl) to match
the other colors...NOTE that 70 and 71 had had the thickest vinyl..
AND had more of an 'elephant ear' type of grain to it..
BTW..Needle Loom is the proper factory term for what we all
call Perlon...Big Diff came in 74 on the seats with the heat seam as opposed to the sewn seam on the inlays..
75 saw the crazy Tartan inlays and White available!!
BTW the vinyl thru out, got much thinner in 75 and 76..
AND the Beige color was a few shades to the orangish/brown type
of tone...Also with the thinner vinyl came 'grain' differences too...yepperz tons of differences...that above is just a small portion..

I thought I was the onlt one who noticed that the vinyl got thinner though the years! Thought it was my imagination.
Suspect that they thought thinner felt more like leather, but who am I?

Posted by: 914runnow Sep 23 2006, 10:37 PM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 20 2006, 05:59 PM) *

QUOTE(914runnow @ Sep 18 2006, 12:44 AM) *

QUOTE(Toast @ Aug 26 2006, 09:09 PM) *

I just ordered yellow plaid material for my seats. I will post before pix on Monday, and after pics when finished.....pobably in a week or two. I do not believe that the blue/black checkered seat cusions were the originals in my 73 yellow (duh), but they are pretty worn.
Maybe someone here can identify what year/color sceme they were for. idea.gif


Also, I know of someone who has a blue/yellow/white checkered in a cream 70 914. I'll try to get a pic of that one too.

I have the dealer 71-72-73-74-75 interior charts..
72 thru 74....all had the perf leatherette BASKET WEAVE (vinyl)
OR corduory seat inlays in beige/brown/black...70/71 were different..Solid
in the leatherette..As too were the door panels..
The bolsters etc. ..were ALL leatherette (vinyl) to match
the other colors...NOTE that 70 and 71 had had the thickest vinyl..
AND had more of an 'elephant ear' type of grain to it..
BTW..Needle Loom is the proper factory term for what we all
call Perlon...Big Diff came in 74 on the seats with the heat seam as opposed to the sewn seam on the inlays..
75 saw the crazy Tartan inlays and White available!!
BTW the vinyl thru out, got much thinner in 75 and 76..
AND the Beige color was a few shades to the orangish/brown type
of tone...Also with the thinner vinyl came 'grain' differences too...yepperz tons of differences...that above is just a small portion..

I thought I was the onlt one who noticed that the vinyl got thinner though the years! Thought it was my imagination.
Suspect that they thought thinner felt more like leather, but who am I?

#1-Thanx for the reply..
Seems I have been one of the few out here lately....
Nope and yepperz.....
Nope= your imagination on the thickness is correct...
Saw the door panels loose Q/C and less parts and material..
Big one in 75 was the PLASTIC bottom 'pocket on the psngr side'..
But they went to cheap one time use door panel clips and
no more xtra weather /moisture seal on the door panel..
they painted 'black' where the vinyl overlays are covering
parts of the tunnel and x member seat tilt catch bar support..
AND THE BIG ONE THAT BURNS ME IS THE DASH FACE MATERIAL
WAS REALLY THIN JUNK......
OKAY you 75 76 owners want to hog tie me..
Just a note..I am restoring a 1.8 75....for myself..
I just am the messenger...not the mfr....
I save pcs of material out of the cars I lay to rest..
Nothin like taking a retractable knife to a 914 interior that is shot..
Trust me it took a while to get up the gumption to do that..
When you have 8 or so seats around ...
SUMPINS GOTTAH GO...
OH>>>>>I am gonnah start a new subject...

Posted by: Bleyseng Sep 30 2006, 09:30 AM

Yep, the Tan interior is very different in the 75-76 cars but its the same as the tan material for the VW h20 cars.

Lots of plaids are being made now for the VW crowd so some are very similar to what was made for our 75-76 cars.

Posted by: 914runnow Sep 30 2006, 11:05 AM

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Sep 30 2006, 07:30 AM) *

Yep, the Tan interior is very different in the 75-76 cars but its the same as the tan material for the VW h20 cars.

Lots of plaids are being made now for the VW crowd so some are very similar to what was made for our 75-76 cars.

Whoa Thanx For the Info!!!!
Gottah a source or Info??

Posted by: sixerdon Oct 2 2006, 07:43 PM

Here's something new I learned this weekend. Moving parts around inside my '76 parts car, I noticed that the face plate for the 3 center gauges was plastic. It has that pebble finish like the head light surrounds. Never noticed that before since my sixes both have smooth flat black metal. So, the '70/'71's are metal and the '75/'76's are plastic. What about the middle years? When was the change?

Don

Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 3 2006, 07:23 PM

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Oct 2 2006, 09:43 PM) *

Here's something new I learned this weekend. Moving parts around inside my '76 parts car, I noticed that the face plate for the 3 center gauges was plastic. It has that pebble finish like the head light surrounds. Never noticed that before since my sixes both have smooth flat black metal. So, the '70/'71's are metal and the '75/'76's are plastic. What about the middle years? When was the change?

Don

Hey Don - pics?

My late '72 is pure, smooth metal.

Posted by: sixerdon Oct 3 2006, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Oct 3 2006, 05:23 PM) *

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Oct 2 2006, 09:43 PM) *

Here's something new I learned this weekend. Moving parts around inside my '76 parts car, I noticed that the face plate for the 3 center gauges was plastic. It has that pebble finish like the head light surrounds. Never noticed that before since my sixes both have smooth flat black metal. So, the '70/'71's are metal and the '75/'76's are plastic. What about the middle years? When was the change?

Don

Hey Don - pics?

My late '72 is pure, smooth metal.


Pat,
Sorry no pics. They wouldn't show anything anyway. Seems to be the same dimensional design, just plastic......with black screws instead of chrome plated ones. Now someone needs to confirm '73/'74.

Don

Posted by: Ferg Oct 4 2006, 10:36 AM

I'll add two pics, first is my 74, it now has a perfect orig shift knob, and a prototipo wheel, notice the green defrost switch.

Second is dash of a 71 914-6 i'm selling, thanks to 914runnrow it has the becker grand prix radio

Ferg beer.gif


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 4 2006, 07:00 PM

Here's what I can tell you with surety. My '72 is a late (July) production 1.7, with retractable belts & the Bilstein jack, The guage console is flate black metal, with black screws. I am the original owner, so none of this has been changed.

Really interested in hearing about the plastic replacement for the main guage console.

We're always learning here, aren't we?

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 5 2006, 10:41 PM

99% certain the 75s had the plastic dash gage frame too, the 1975 914 I parted did. The California cars also had EGR and CAT lights mounted to the frame too.

All 914s through 1974 had the flat black metal dash gage frame.

Mike, that sixers air vent controls look like they are euro (no text). I don't know the sixers, are they all that way?

Posted by: tod914 Oct 6 2006, 06:56 AM

My 75 has the plastic dash as well. 12/74 production date. I'll get some pictures together this weekend, weather permitting.

Posted by: Ferg Oct 6 2006, 09:35 AM

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99% certain the 75s had the plastic dash gage frame too, the 1975 914 I parted did. The California cars also had EGR and CAT lights mounted to the frame too.

All 914s through 1974 had the flat black metal dash gage frame.

Mike, that sixers air vent controls look like they are euro (no text). I don't know the sixers, are they all that way?



good question on the sixer... I don't know either. It's a 71, and has markers so I doubt the car was/is euro.

Ferg

Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 6 2006, 06:44 PM

mine now with the black interior and black leather seats.

Now if I could just get Ferg to come over and detail my car.......


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Posted by: sixerdon Oct 7 2006, 07:00 AM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Oct 6 2006, 07:35 AM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 5 2006, 08:41 PM) *

99% certain the 75s had the plastic dash gage frame too, the 1975 914 I parted did. The California cars also had EGR and CAT lights mounted to the frame too.

All 914s through 1974 had the flat black metal dash gage frame.

Mike, that sixers air vent controls look like they are euro (no text). I don't know the sixers, are they all that way?



good question on the sixer... I don't know either. It's a 71, and has markers so I doubt the car was/is euro.

Ferg


The air vent controls had no text on all models from '70 through '72. '73 was the 1st year. I guess they figured new owners would read their manual. Even today a lot of people don't know how to adjust them.

Don

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 7 2006, 09:57 AM

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The air vent controls had no text on all models from '70 through '72.


Sure about that?

Here is Pats 72 air coontrol with text and an air control from a european 914 below


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Posted by: sixerdon Oct 7 2006, 11:17 AM

Interesting. My '71 parts car or the sixes don't have text. I believe Pat's is a late MY '72 (step in here Pat) Check Johnson's book, factory brochures, they don't show text. Check owners manual. I'll check my friends '72. So the change out could be sometime late MY '72.

Don

Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 7 2006, 06:57 PM

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Interesting. My '71 parts car or the sixes don't have text. I believe Pat's is a late MY '72 (step in here Pat) Check Johnson's book, factory brochures, they don't show text. Check owners manual. I'll check my friends '72. So the change out could be sometime late MY '72.

Don

Sorry Don - bought my 72 new from Classic Porsche-Audi, in Cincinnati, August 1972.

I hate to say it, but Brett Johnson's book has numerous errors in it for the early cars. Hate to say it, because I consider it still a valuable resource. Not as valuable as this group, but for newbies.

Remeber, there were several mid-year changes in '72, including the new jack & seat belts.

Posted by: sixerdon Oct 7 2006, 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Oct 7 2006, 04:57 PM) *

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Oct 7 2006, 01:17 PM) *

Interesting. My '71 parts car or the sixes don't have text. I believe Pat's is a late MY '72 (step in here Pat) Check Johnson's book, factory brochures, they don't show text. Check owners manual. I'll check my friends '72. So the change out could be sometime late MY '72.

Don

Sorry Don - bought my 72 new from Classic Porsche-Audi, in Cincinnati, August 1972.

I hate to say it, but Brett Johnson's book has numerous errors in it for the early cars. Hate to say it, because I consider it still a valuable resource. Not as valuable as this group, but for newbies.

Remeber, there were several mid-year changes in '72, including the new jack & seat belts.


Pat, I think that is what I stated. You have a late "model year '72", correct? August delivery is late and '73 MY production had begun. If your last 5 vin digets are "18725", that puts your production as what,...May or June '72? My friend has a '72 with "19828" and he has the "text" on his controls. I think we've agreed before that the Johnson book is not entirely accurate and by posting these questions on this forum will help clear up these irregularitys. As you stated there were several mid-year (or later) changes in '72. Maybe the control "text" was one of them. Let's see if some owners of early '72's can step up and help fill in the blanks. I find all this fascinating.

Don

Posted by: tod914 Oct 9 2006, 11:53 AM

Interior 1975

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 9 2006, 06:47 PM

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VERY nice car Tod!

Just curious, though......(what made you chose the white rivets? - not that I don't like them). You are thr "rocker rivet king" - shouldn't you have tried for gold?
Pat

Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 9 2006, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Oct 7 2006, 09:50 PM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Oct 7 2006, 04:57 PM) *

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Oct 7 2006, 01:17 PM) *

Interesting. My '71 parts car or the sixes don't have text. I believe Pat's is a late MY '72 (step in here Pat) Check Johnson's book, factory brochures, they don't show text. Check owners manual. I'll check my friends '72. So the change out could be sometime late MY '72.

Don

Sorry Don - bought my 72 new from Classic Porsche-Audi, in Cincinnati, August 1972.

I hate to say it, but Brett Johnson's book has numerous errors in it for the early cars. Hate to say it, because I consider it still a valuable resource. Not as valuable as this group, but for newbies.

Remeber, there were several mid-year changes in '72, including the new jack & seat belts.


Pat, I think that is what I stated. You have a late "model year '72", correct? August delivery is late and '73 MY production had begun. If your last 5 vin digets are "18725", that puts your production as what,...May or June '72? My friend has a '72 with "19828" and he has the "text" on his controls. I think we've agreed before that the Johnson book is not entirely accurate and by posting these questions on this forum will help clear up these irregularitys. As you stated there were several mid-year (or later) changes in '72. Maybe the control "text" was one of them. Let's see if some owners of early '72's can step up and help fill in the blanks. I find all this fascinating.

Don

Hey Don!

You're right. It was still a moving target even in '72. My appearance group car was made in June & delivered in August. I was so excited it took me 2 weeks to realize that the car had 4.5 inch wheels & 155 tires on it! Took it back in September for the 600 mile oil change (they still used break-in oil then) & told them about it. They told me I was right, but didn't have any 5.5 inch wheel laying around. Then they told me that the first of the "914S" ( 2 cars) had arrived and for $100 I could swap to the Fuchs wheels on one of them. Hate to say it, but I didn't like them at the time (&would never be able to explain it today), so the ordered a set of 165's & chrome wheels for me at no charge...AND threw in a Bursch exhaust, which ultimately ruined my "snowplow" rear valence.

Bought & restored a proper set of painted whells some 15 years later, but still have the chromies. They are still my favorite, though not factory. I switch as the need arises.

Yep, it was still a moving target even in late '72.

Pat

Posted by: tod914 Oct 9 2006, 09:45 PM

You know Pat, I went with the white cause that's what the car had. I later came to realize after Don posted, 75-76 had the metal rivets in the outrockers. Dave Cheeks car also has the metal (1 owner car). Certianly not doing another rivet hunt thats for sure to find the metal ones. Seems to look ok for now. I'll pass the royal rivet septor to someone else if they want to find a metal match lol.

Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 10 2006, 08:21 AM

sweet car, Tod.

How come you have a Green fog lite switch?

I switched out mine....cuz the green one is less brite when its on.

Posted by: tod914 Oct 10 2006, 08:27 AM

Thanks Geoff. Spent alot of hours cleaning it. Had most of it out at one point to get to things easier. I repainted the seat handles, that black bar under the seats, and a trim peice behind the drivers seat. I have a yellow light somewhere. I should probally put it in like you did. The green is definetly too bright. Your orange car looks nice as well. Hows the 2.1 motor? Alot more punch over stock?

Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 10 2006, 08:27 PM

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You know Pat, I went with the white cause that's what the car had. I later came to realize after Don posted, 75-76 had the metal rivets in the outrockers. Dave Cheeks car also has the metal (1 owner car). Certianly not doing another rivet hunt thats for sure to find the metal ones. Seems to look ok for now. I'll pass the royal rivet septor to someone else if they want to find a metal match lol.

Tod,
I, for one, thank you sincerly for your rivet endeavors. They worked perfectly with no trimming. You da' man! Down the road, owners are going to lament not stocking up on these!

The metal ones shouldn't be too difficult. And, if they're not metric who could tell the diff?

Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 11 2006, 07:43 AM

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Hows the 2.1 motor? Alot more punch over stock?

Yes, alot more plus the shorter 3rd & 4th gears make for spirited driving.

Posted by: Greg808 Oct 23 2006, 09:01 PM

here is a pic from a 1975 that sold on e-bay a few months ago smoke.gif


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Posted by: Greg808 Oct 23 2006, 09:03 PM

another photo of that 75 cool_shades.gif


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Posted by: 74Bumblebee Nov 7 2006, 07:42 PM

I have a '74 Bumblebee and want to reinstall the orginial AM/FM radio. The dash opening was cut bigger to accept an after market CD player. Are there any type of original dash plates or faces that might have been cut out to make the opening bigger? The following link shows dash with after market CD player installed.
Thanks for any info and help.
Bill

http://home.comcast.net/~carreraguy/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-3008514.html

Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 7 2006, 08:19 PM

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I have a '74 Bumblebee and want to reinstall the orginial AM/FM radio. The dash opening was cut bigger to accept an after market CD player. Are there any type of original dash plates or faces that might have been cut out to make the opening bigger? The following link shows dash with after market CD player installed.
Thanks for any info and help.
Bill

http://home.comcast.net/~carreraguy/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-3008514.html

I'm a little confused here! You want to reinstall the original radio, right?

The dash opening was cut LARGER so the aftermarket unit could be installed...

I think you want to make the opening smaller, not larger. There are a number of faceplates that show up on Ebay, which should work. You can't make the current one smaller, so look inot that.

Or else, I'm missing something here.....

Posted by: 74Bumblebee Nov 8 2006, 09:06 AM

Sorry for the confusion, kinda new here. Yes I want to reinstall the orginal radio, and the dash was cut larger. I do want to make the opening smaller. I'll check out Ebay. Thanks.

Posted by: mills914/s Jan 7 2007, 09:06 AM

My 72 I just bought. To bad the previous owner glued all carpet down with gorilla glue. Last weekend I had to get rid of that steering wheel. and put on a factory one. I just cant drive right with that little wheel.


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Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 8 2007, 10:31 AM

what do we know about these seats?


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 8 2007, 08:40 PM

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what do we know about these seats?

OK, I'll step out on a limb here.

They ain't factory (though they're nice). The poster before you had nice seats but with non-factory piping on them (& they looked nice too).

So, what's your drift?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 9 2007, 10:24 AM

drift? never on wet roads. wink.gif the perfect door panels hole sawed for a set of stupid speakers was sad.

k

Posted by: mills914/s Jan 10 2007, 09:31 AM

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My 72 I just bought. To bad the previous owner glued all carpet down with gorilla glue. Last weekend I had to get rid of that steering wheel. and put on a factory one. I just cant drive right with that little wheel.
The Car came with this weird silver pipping on the seats (non original)but it kinda matches the car and looks ok I guess ..The car was just painted silver

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 10 2007, 07:04 PM

original 74 "Cinnamon Leatherette" interior on a LE. cool_shades.gif


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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 10 2007, 07:06 PM

another view


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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 10 2007, 07:08 PM

yet another


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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 10 2007, 07:12 PM

& another.



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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 10 2007, 07:23 PM

& 1 more. cool_shades.gif


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Posted by: type4org Jan 11 2007, 12:24 PM

I noticed a terrible oversight.

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PLAID!

Well, here it is, from my all-original (except for the oddball radio/CB radio combo) '76. Applying some plastic treatment to the panels and using a flash conspired against me in some of these shots.

PLAID!

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Posted by: type4org Jan 11 2007, 12:26 PM

Here's the door panels:

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Dashboard area, first a full shot:

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Here's a closer look at the center console (the car has the appearance group package):

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Here's a look at the CB radio and the stereo. The first owner had this conversion put in in the late seventies, together with an electrical antenna and an amp munted to the board on top of the spare tire in the front trunk. A very professional and nice install, and even though I received the original Becker Mexico Cassette in a box with the car I kept the Motorola in because it's such an interesting period "upgrade":

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 11 2007, 08:22 PM

QUOTE(type4org @ Jan 11 2007, 03:24 PM) *

I noticed a terrible oversight.

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PLAID!

Well, here it is, from my all-original (except for the oddball radio/CB radio combo) '76. Applying some plastic treatment to the panels and using a flash conspired against me in some of these shots.

PLAID!

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Jens,
Thank you! Someone finally steped foreward for the later cars! Very nice! Out of blatantly "want t know", can we see something of the CB setup in the front trunk? Haven't seen anything like that for many years.

Posted by: type4org Jan 12 2007, 05:16 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jan 11 2007, 09:22 PM) *

Out of blatantly "want t know", can we see something of the CB setup in the front trunk? Haven't seen anything like that for many years.


Sure, here's some pictures. The setup consists of the Motorola radio with a second box attached underneath it, the handheld receiver/microphone unit, the amp in the front trunk and an electrical antenna. Looking at the wiring it's clear the antenna was put in at the same time as the CB radio. I managed to lose the only "history" item on this setup I had found in the car, the shop's business card that put it in. It was a place in the L.A. area.

I have not tested the setup by trying to listen in on CB radio channels, I have next to no clue about CB radios so I don't even know if the channels are the same in the US and Germany. I know the lights come on when I turn on the CB part with the on/off switch on the handheld unit, and the radio speaker output is cut, presumably switched over to CB radio output. I should try it out the next time I drive the car smile.gif

Here's a better shot of the radio and handheld unit:

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The receiver/mike turned on:

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The amp in the trunk, the wiring is done pretty well, and thankfully they did not drill holes through metal for it:

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The antenna (haven't looked at who made it):

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jan 12 2007, 05:05 PM

QUOTE(type4org @ Jan 12 2007, 08:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jan 11 2007, 09:22 PM) *

Out of blatantly "want t know", can we see something of the CB setup in the front trunk? Haven't seen anything like that for many years.


Sure, here's some pictures. The setup consists of the Motorola radio with a second box attached underneath it, the handheld receiver/microphone unit, the amp in the front trunk and an electrical antenna. Looking at the wiring it's clear the antenna was put in at the same time as the CB radio. I managed to lose the only "history" item on this setup I had found in the car, the shop's business card that put it in. It was a place in the L.A. area.

I have not tested the setup by trying to listen in on CB radio channels, I have next to no clue about CB radios so I don't even know if the channels are the same in the US and Germany. I know the lights come on when I turn on the CB part with the on/off switch on the handheld unit, and the radio speaker output is cut, presumably switched over to CB radio output. I should try it out the next time I drive the car smile.gif

Here's a better shot of the radio and handheld unit:

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The receiver/mike turned on:

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The amp in the trunk, the wiring is done pretty well, and thankfully they did not drill holes through metal for it:

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The antenna (haven't looked at who made it):

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Jens biggrin.gif ,

Brings back old memories. Didn't put one in the 914, but I DID have one in my '77 924. Was a lot of fun then & I used it a lot on the open road, looking for "smokies". Went by the name "beans" then.

Very clean installation too!

Posted by: N14 Jan 22 2007, 05:27 PM

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Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 19 2007, 08:29 PM

Sometime in early '72, 914 interiors went to inertia belts. The Bilstein jack came into play over the old spring-loaded jack, and a few other changes.

Anyone know what production month this changeover occured? My '72 is May production & has the changes, yet my production number is 18725 (which is fairly late).
Pat

Posted by: mrgreenjeans Feb 19 2007, 08:57 PM

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Dashboard area, first a full shot:

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Here's a look at the CB radio and the stereo. The first owner had this conversion put in in the late seventies, together with an electrical antenna and an amp munted to the board on top of the spare tire in the front trunk. A very professional and nice install, and even though I received the original Becker Mexico Cassette in a box with the car I kept the Motorola in because it's such an interesting period "upgrade":

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Jens...gota tell you, that is one special car....what a beauty.

I could just sit and look at this screen, popcorn[1].gif all night long. Sure beats what's on cable right now..( food network---wifey's fav )

This is my food network.

True Geekdom idea.gif

mrgreenjeans

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Feb 27 2007, 09:08 PM

Here's more plaid seat colors from my archives.

Tom


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Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Feb 27 2007, 09:10 PM

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Here's more plaid seat colors from my archives.

Tom



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Posted by: mrgreenjeans Feb 27 2007, 10:53 PM

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Here's more plaid seat colors from my archives.

Tom


Love the "hermetically sealed" approach on the lower pads. Is this an optional traction device for the butt cheeks ?

Gotta be a little loosey goosey when hanging onto those off camber decreasing radius sweepers...........

This is where its good to have installed das " Hans " device.

Just in case mr happy11.gif comes into play, and those skinny little wobblies give up their ghost and send one careening into the abyss of no return.

The little baggies also doing double duty in retaining the seats O.E. appearance after the racer-striping of one's boxers.............



GREAT color shots on the pics.

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Posted by: 1975red914 May 18 2007, 11:49 PM

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I just ordered yellow plaid material for my seats. I will post before pix on Monday, and after pics when finished.....pobably in a week or two. I do not believe that the blue/black checkered seat cusions were the originals in my 73 yellow (duh), but they are pretty worn.
Maybe someone here can identify what year/color sceme they were for. idea.gif


Also, I know of someone who has a blue/yellow/white checkered in a cream 70 914. I'll try to get a pic of that one too.



I have found a source today for the plaid seat material and corduroy used on the 914's. Where did you get your yellow plaid from?

Posted by: 1975red914 May 19 2007, 12:06 AM

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Yep, the Tan interior is very different in the 75-76 cars but its the same as the tan material for the VW h20 cars.

Lots of plaids are being made now for the VW crowd so some are very similar to what was made for our 75-76 cars.


Yes you are correct. Found a source who has the plaids for 914's. Green, orange, red on shelves exactly. Also has the correct black velour spotted that can hot seam the velour.

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Yep, the Tan interior is very different in the 75-76 cars but its the same as the tan material for the VW h20 cars.

Lots of plaids are being made now for the VW crowd so some are very similar to what was made for our 75-76 cars.
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Whoa Thanx For the Info!!!!
Gottah a source or Info?



Just found a source today and view the plaids. They are exact matches in green, red and orange. Black velour is also right on. Source told me they can make up yellow. smile.gif

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 16 2007, 12:59 PM

Got back from the ECC today & was overwhealmed that 1/3rd of the Teeners there had Brown interiors. Most were incomplete or had been dyed black, but I did manage to see & shoot this 74 914 inside-


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Posted by: 1975red914 Sep 18 2007, 12:58 PM

smile.gif The source is in Canby Oregon. SMS Fabrics. Left the company a sizeable deposit for yellow plaid months ago and have heard nothing yet. Time to visit facility and see what delay is. This company is more than capible of making any type of fabric weave and hot seaming it. Yellow plaid is what I commissioned them to do based on an original 76 example. Money is the motivator. So far, no results.

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Yep, the Tan interior is very different in the 75-76 cars but its the same as the tan material for the VW h20 cars.

Lots of plaids are being made now for the VW crowd so some are very similar to what was made for our 75-76 cars.


Yes you are correct. Found a source who has the plaids for 914's. Green, orange, red on shelves exactly. Also has the correct black velour spotted that can hot seam the velour.


Posted by: gary beck Oct 30 2007, 10:53 AM

Im looking for the red or grean tartan cloth for my Porsche.
Can you email me the place I can find some.
Thanks
gary.beck@verizon.net

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Oct 30 2007, 12:12 PM

Gary,

First..... welcome.png


Second, I think that you will get more exposure and probably greater response if you pose your question on the "regular" Originality & History Forum, rather than on the "nailed" threads, which most people use for occasional reference.

Paul

Posted by: dflesburg Nov 8 2007, 03:45 PM

Here are a couple shots of GreatPumpkin's car from 12/69


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Posted by: dflesburg Nov 8 2007, 03:46 PM

notice the additional vent in the center of the dash

the super long shift lever

strange shift knob

no text on heater controls


Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Nov 8 2007, 06:33 PM

Can it be, an uncracked dash top in an early 914?! w00t.gif

Posted by: dflesburg Nov 8 2007, 09:57 PM

look closer, there is a crack near the speedo...

very very early car, all original. even has a complete tool kit, jack, etc...

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Dec 26 2007, 07:26 PM

anyone have pics of a 74 1.8 nice interior?

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Dec 26 2007, 09:58 PM

J,

Post #10, on page 1 of this thread, has a very nice interior pic of a '74 except that it has an aftermarket stereo in the dash and door mounted speakers installed. I can't imagine that the interior of a 1974 1.8 and a 2.0 are that much different.

Paul

Posted by: dave29 Feb 5 2008, 08:54 AM

I've got a 1971 914-6 which I picked up about 5 weeks ago. The c of a shows that the car came with "Black Leatherette/Basket Weave".
The car currently has seats and door panels which are somewhat smooth but have a slight pattern or distress look to them. Back in 1975 I had a 1970 914-6 and I remember the door panels and seat centers being basketweave like the dash face.
Anyone out there have pictures of what my c of a calls for interiot wise?
Thanks
dave29

Posted by: dave29 Feb 5 2008, 08:56 AM

How about interior wise!
dave29

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Feb 6 2008, 06:30 PM

Dave,
Attached is a photo from an original '70/4. I'd think your '71/6 would be similar.
I also understand that in 1972, the 914 door panels went from a smooth, leather-like vinyl to the basketweave pattern. If your car was manufactered late in the 1971 production year cycle, I suppose the factory might have finished the door panels as they did for the 1972 model year.
You might pose this question on the main portion of the originality Forum and get a broader range of readers and respondents.
Lastly, wecome to the 914 World welcome.png

Paul


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Posted by: dave29 Feb 7 2008, 03:07 PM

Paul...thanks for the welcome! I can't tell from the picture but is the door panel smooth with some slight texture or is it just smooth?
dave29

Posted by: dave29 Feb 7 2008, 03:10 PM

Paul..one more thing...my 71-6 was the third from the last six made .
dave29

Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 13 2008, 08:08 PM

Since this is the inerior nailed post section......

Just got an ashtray that has never been used (rarety?). Thought I could use it to replace mine, that has been used - though many, many years ago.

But there is a difference. The fascia on mine (original) is soft vinyl, yet the fascia on the one I bought is rock hard plastic. Did later year 914's switch from soft vinyl to plastic?

Pic's are available, but why? They look the same.
Anyone?
Pat

I looked at them again today(2/14), side-by-side. There are numerous differences! I'll post some pics & see who can note the diff's - to late tonight.

Posted by: Slider Feb 16 2008, 01:28 PM

Pat,

Mines a 1/72 model and it has all of the Late 72 pieces.
with a chassis build of ~January 19 1972

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Feb 19 2007, 07:29 PM) *

Sometime in early '72, 914 interiors went to inertia belts. The Bilstein jack came into play over the old spring-loaded jack, and a few other changes.

Anyone know what production month this changeover occured? My '72 is May production & has the changes, yet my production number is 18725 (which is fairly late).
Pat


Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 16 2008, 08:17 PM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Feb 13 2008, 09:08 PM) *

Since this is the inerior nailed post section......

Just got an ashtray that has never been used (rarety?). Thought I could use it to replace mine, that has been used - though many, many years ago.

But there is a difference. The fascia on mine (original) is soft vinyl, yet the fascia on the one I bought is rock hard plastic. Did later year 914's switch from soft vinyl to plastic?

Pic's are available, but why? They look the same.
Anyone?
Pat

I looked at them again today(2/14), side-by-side. There are numerous differences! I'll post some pics & see who can note the diff's - to late tonight.



OK, here a couple of pics. Who can tell the diff between a 72 & "later" ash tray?
Pat


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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Apr 24 2008, 12:39 PM

An early /6 from the Hershey '05 Parade....


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Posted by: Gustl Apr 24 2008, 03:18 PM

#0310 - very original


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Posted by: minndodger Apr 24 2008, 05:05 PM

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#0310 - very original


Excuse my ignorance, but what is that item on the passenger floor in front of the seat?


Posted by: SirAndy Apr 24 2008, 05:08 PM

914.143.0374

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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Apr 24 2008, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Gustl @ Apr 24 2008, 04:18 PM) *

#0310 - very original


Excuse my ignorance, but what is that item on the passenger floor in front of the seat?


That is a seldom seen, MY 1970/71, tethered (adjustable) foot rest for the (fixed) passenger seat.

Paul

Posted by: Rav914 Apr 24 2008, 11:01 PM

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strange shift knob


I had a one owner 1966 911 with the same shift knob. 901 pattern.

Posted by: Rav914 Apr 24 2008, 11:08 PM

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anyone have pics of a 74 1.8 nice interior?


One owner '74 1.8 with 49,000 miles on it. Dealer installed radio and speakers mad.gif




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Posted by: Rav914 Apr 24 2008, 11:10 PM

Another.


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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Apr 24 2008, 11:44 PM

Rav,
I see you too have the Factory "interior rear view mirror delete from the windshield and place on the floor option" that so many of us have selected as well. Don't you find the view without the mirror mounted to be panoramic? Also, you don't have to fiddle with the mirror when adjusting the sun visors, assuming those are also firmly attached.

Paul

Posted by: Rav914 Apr 24 2008, 11:49 PM

Paul,

Aptly put biggrin.gif

Nate

Posted by: SGB Jun 10 2008, 09:02 PM

I love this "Herculon" look seats and door panels I got from Rusty. BUT, it is not right for my 73. It probably came from a 75. All the things I've seen discussed about differences in material and construction are true. These look cool, but the vinyl is thinner and the door panel construction is lighter gauge pressboard material, with a lighter metal strip at the top.
Nonetheless, it is SO period, it makes me want earth shoes and a "Keep on Truckin" patch for my jeans.


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Posted by: SGB Jun 10 2008, 09:06 PM

I need to replace the seat cushions if I can find 'em. I've thought about turning these inside out and having the sides re-sewn. I think there is a thin layer of padding material sewn to the underside too.


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Posted by: SGB Jun 10 2008, 09:27 PM

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Posted by: dw914er Jun 10 2008, 09:48 PM

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1973 1.7 interior. Original except for the radio. These photos are pre paintjob for the car, but they still look the same

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Posted by: 1975red914 Sep 4 2008, 09:50 AM

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Hi Pat,

I am interested in original Blaupunkt radios and the correct installation. Have you seen a Emden installed? It had Porsche written across the middle of the chrome surround. Noticed in your photos that you could see the speakers. Where is the cloth covering the speakers through the grilles? Face plates and covers are also difficult to understand. My years of interest are 1975-76. Both my cars came with Frankfurts and had a black metal faceplate, unlike your photo were the material was cut out.

Hope you can get through my questions.

Duanne

Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 14 2008, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 18 2006, 06:47 PM) *

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Hi Pat,

I am interested in original Blaupunkt radios and the correct installation. Have you seen a Emden installed? It had Porsche written across the middle of the chrome surround. Noticed in your photos that you could see the speakers. Where is the cloth covering the speakers through the grilles? Face plates and covers are also difficult to understand. My years of interest are 1975-76. Both my cars came with Frankfurts and had a black metal faceplate, unlike your photo were the material was cut out.

Hope you can get through my questions.

Duanne

Can't recall seeing an Emden, but doesn't mean anything because most radios were dealer or personally installed using whatever the customer wished or what the dealer had on hand. I instlled my Frankfurt myself.

Never had cloth covering my speakers. Since the car came w/o a radio, there were plastic "blanks" installed behind the grills, but no cloth. Could be a late-model item?

The dashface material wasn't cut out. There was a basketweave (matching) blank where the radio would be mounted. This was removed when the radio was installed, and replaced with new panel, from Blaupunkt, with basletweave material fitted around the edges of the radio. Wish I'd kept the original blank, as well as the speaker blanks, but I didn't figure they would ever be useful to anyone.
Pat


Posted by: blazerchad Dec 7 2009, 05:14 PM

72 1.7 mid year model. silver respray over stock color.

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Posted by: 914ohana Dec 11 2009, 02:51 AM

Hi... I've been looking for a suitable insert material to redo the seat inserts for my '71...that's close to that early 70's look/feel... although I'm not having much luck finding a local source... I had in mind a thin ribbed corduroy insert as I had in a '72 once before. The side/bolsters are getting some leather treatment in beige (cream), any help on sources or ideas would be great! The car is black, and interior gearing toward blk & tan..

Aloha
Mike

Posted by: windforfun Jan 11 2010, 02:52 PM

Here's a "73 1.7. I went with the better speaker enclosures.

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72 1.7 mid year model. silver respray over stock color.

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You said yours was a mid-year '72 - what's the VIN?
Pat

Posted by: Tom_T Jan 13 2010, 10:28 PM

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Here's something new I learned this weekend. Moving parts around inside my '76 parts car, I noticed that the face plate for the 3 center gauges was plastic. It has that pebble finish like the head light surrounds. Never noticed that before since my sixes both have smooth flat black metal. So, the '70/'71's are metal and the '75/'76's are plastic. What about the middle years? When was the change?

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Hey Don - pics?

My late '72 is pure, smooth metal.


Same in my 73 2L & the 74's that I've seen.

According to this webinfo at p914.com, 75-76 was the change overr years.

Also the glass changed to plastic on the gauge faces around that time IRRC.

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Tod, shouldn't that fog light switch have an amber bezel by 75? confused24.gif

From what I've researched for restoring my very early-73 (mfgd 8/72 while Pat was buying his 72 laugh.gif ), the change was mid-year 1973 MY & earlier 73's were a mixed bag of "leftover" greens & ambers.

So I've bought both just to be anal & until I can find a 914-2.0 with a VIN just before & just after my #...01954!

EDIT - 3-24-12:
AFAIK All Aug. & Sept. 72 built 73 MY 914s with foglights used the green bezel dash switch, based on my research, as they were still using up the early style green foglight switch parts. Mine was built 8/31/72 & is 8/72 on the VIN sticker FYI, and I've bracketed several other still original 914s built in Aug. & Sept. 72 built 914s to confirm this.

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QUOTE(914ohana @ Dec 10 2009, 10:51 PM) *

Hi... I've been looking for a suitable insert material to redo the seat inserts for my '71...that's close to that early 70's look/feel... although I'm not having much luck finding a local source... I had in mind a thin ribbed corduroy insert as I had in a '72 once before. The side/bolsters are getting some leather treatment in beige (cream), any help on sources or ideas would be great! The car is black, and interior gearing toward blk & tan..

Aloha
Mike

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Posted by: broomhandle May 18 2010, 09:56 PM

does anybody have a picture of the weather stripping on the window frame? is there a trim that goes around it? right where the top and rubber meet. i have a 71 if it makes a difference.

Posted by: RFoulds May 11 2011, 04:13 PM

Here is my 1974, UNRESTORED. original carpets still. Dealer installed OPC air conditioning and modifed center console with gauges to accomodate a/c.
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Posted by: Pat Garvey May 14 2011, 06:43 PM

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does anybody have a picture of the weather stripping on the window frame? is there a trim that goes around it? right where the top and rubber meet. i have a 71 if it makes a difference.

Can you be more specific? I can provide pics, but what do you mean by "window frame"? We're somewhat limited in pic posting, so you need to clrify which positions.
Pat

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 28 2011, 07:23 PM

Factory roof, note: NO headliner material

Build date 01/1970, Delivery date 04/1970


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 20 2012, 06:06 PM

My ancient memory fails me on this...when did the heater(floor control) knob change?

I know that early 911's had a rounded knob - rounded at the forward end. Had that type of knob on both my early 911's. One was (1970) for the hand throttle. The other (1973) was for heat. My 72 914 has a squared/rectangular end to the lever that actuates heat.

Did any other 914's have the rounded end knob for heat (not throttle, as in sixes)?
Pat

Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 19 2012, 12:33 AM

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& 1 more. cool_shades.gif


Where did you get (or can I find) your over carpets or similar? Would like to get some to protect my factory carpeting. Thanks!

Posted by: 914runnow Dec 31 2013, 12:14 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Feb 19 2007, 07:29 PM) *

Sometime in early '72, 914 interiors went to inertia belts. The Bilstein jack came into play over the old spring-loaded jack, and a few other changes.

Anyone know what production month this changeover occured? My '72 is May production & has the changes, yet my production number is 18725 (which is fairly late).
Pat

Some time after 5000 series ..will get pics..
Rx

Posted by: Jasfsmith Dec 31 2013, 07:43 AM

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Did any other 914's have the rounded end knob for heat (not throttle, as in sixes)?
Pat


Both my MY '70 914-4 and 914-6 had round red heat knobs.

Posted by: Mhead Jan 9 2014, 12:14 PM

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Posted by: topls914 Apr 9 2014, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(gary beck @ Oct 30 2007, 11:53 AM) *

Im looking for the red or grean tartan cloth for my Porsche.
Can you email me the place I can find some.
Thanks
gary.beck@verizon.net



I found quite a selection of tartan and plaids at Scottish Weavers web site, variances of materials include wool. I found a great plaid for my outlaw 911 and will aslo find on e for my orange 914.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 9 2014, 09:25 PM

Took a shot with the roof off for a different view.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 23 2014, 07:00 PM

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Took a shot with the roof off for a different view.

Really nice!!!!!

Posted by: mepstein Nov 23 2014, 07:23 PM

Hey Pat! bye1.gif

Posted by: Frankvw May 28 2016, 04:26 PM

Question...if you have a 1973 tan interior...what color sunvisors should there be ? Black..or also tan ? No cars show their sunvisors in the pics in this topic....
thanks for your feedback.

Posted by: mepstein May 28 2016, 04:34 PM

I've never seen origional sun visors other than black.

Posted by: 22truckie Jun 24 2016, 04:33 AM

Hello all. First post as I just joined up and just bought an all original untouched 75 914 in Mayan green. Every piece of paperwork, manual , log book, window sticker and salesman business card. Came with the factory touch up paint still in its box. My question is this: I know the carpet has been replaced. Looked wrong , especially since the floor mat pieces didn't have grommets for the pins that are in the floor pan. I just bought NOS floor pieces with the gromets. They called the color Charcoal. Am I correct that it is the same color that the carpet in the trunk and headliner in the targa top are made out of?? Also were all the pieces glued down except the floor pieces with the grommets or were those glued down as well. Was there a " tar paper" like underpayment or were they glued directly to the floor pan? I am an originality nut so I am sure you will be hearing more from me. So thank you for all the help!

Posted by: dlkawashima Jun 24 2016, 09:49 AM

QUOTE(22truckie @ Jun 24 2016, 03:33 AM) *

Hello all. First post as I just joined up and just bought an all original untouched 75 914 in Mayan green. Every piece of paperwork, manual , log book, window sticker and salesman business card. Came with the factory touch up paint still in its box. My question is this: I know the carpet has been replaced. Looked wrong , especially since the floor mat pieces didn't have grommets for the pins that are in the floor pan. I just bought NOS floor pieces with the gromets. They called the color Charcoal. Am I correct that it is the same color that the carpet in the trunk and headliner in the targa top are made out of?? Also were all the pieces glued down except the floor pieces with the grommets or were those glued down as well. Was there a " tar paper" like underpayment or were they glued directly to the floor pan? I am an originality nut so I am sure you will be hearing more from me. So thank you for all the help!

Mayan Green is not a standard name for a 914 color ... could it be Berber Yellow instead, paint code L11D? Regarding the carpet pieces, on my '73 the four floor pieces (the two in the front and the two small ones behind the seats) are loose, the rest are glued in place, charcoal color to compliment the black interior. I don't know if there is an underlayment on the glued in pieces.

Posted by: Ferg Jul 30 2018, 03:28 PM

PO owner of my car was lucky enough to score a nos brown interior back in the day.

Unfortunately he installed speakers in the doors, otherwise it's perfect. I'm a big fan of the brown personally.

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Posted by: CoronaMike Jun 9 2019, 11:23 AM

My brown interior is still pretty original. I think I'll get some new floor mats though.



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Posted by: Pat Garvey Jun 10 2019, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Jul 30 2018, 04:28 PM) *

PO owner of my car was lucky enough to score a nos brown interior back in the day.

Unfortunately he installed speakers in the doors, otherwise it's perfect. I'm a big fan of the brown personally.

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Very nice car but the wheel and shifter ruin the interior

Posted by: Ferg Jun 13 2019, 10:00 AM

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jun 10 2019, 06:06 PM) *

QUOTE(Ferg @ Jul 30 2018, 04:28 PM) *

PO owner of my car was lucky enough to score a nos brown interior back in the day.

Unfortunately he installed speakers in the doors, otherwise it's perfect. I'm a big fan of the brown personally.

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Very nice car but the wheel and shifter ruin the interior


Shifter has been changed to a rennshift with a 917 knob, but the wheel has grown on me. I really like the larger size and grip. beerchug.gif

Posted by: brcacti Dec 31 2019, 05:50 PM

Great to see those pictures, nostalgic.

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Posted by: davep Aug 24 2021, 03:35 PM

So, another kind of revival of this interior thread. These are the 2 digit interior codes of the sort usually seen in a CoA.
from 1970 through 1974:
11 = Black leatherette with leatherette seat inserts
12 = Black leatherette with corduroy seat inserts
13 = Black leatherette with pepita seat inserts
21 = Brown leatherette with leatherette seat inserts
22 = Brown leatherette with corduroy seat inserts
23 = Brown leatherette with pepita seat inserts
31 = Beige/Tan leatherette with leatherette seat inserts
32 = Beige/Tan leatherette with corduroy seat inserts
33 = Beige/Tan leatherette with pepita seat inserts
These vary over the years in terms of materials and model types.

In 1975 the interior choices opened up with different materials and tartans and colors.
05 = Leatherette Black with corduroy seat inserts
10 = Leatherette Cameo white with corduroy seat inserts
14 = Leatherette Yellowstone with corduroy seat inserts
40 = Leatherette Black Tartan yellow (BN1)
42 = Leatherette Black Tartan green (BN2)
43 = Leatherette Black Tartan lime (BN3)
44 = Leatherette Black Tartan orange (BN4)
45 = Leatherette Black Tartan bright red (BN5)
47 = Leatherette Black Tartan burgundy red (BN6)
48 = Leatherette Black Tartan ski blue (BN7)
50 = Leatherette Black
53 = Leatherette Cameo white
56 = Leatherette Yellowstone
80 = Leatherette Black Tartan matisse blue (BN8)
81 = Leatherette Black Tartan black-gray (BN9)

For 1976 there are some changes:
05 = Leatherette Black with corduroy seat inserts
06 = Leatherette Black Tartan blue (CB7)
10 = Leatherette Cameo white with corduroy seat inserts
11 = Leatherette Black Tartan green (CB6)
14 = Leatherette Yellowstone with corduroy seat inserts
40 = Leatherette Black Tartan yellow (BN1)
44 = Leatherette Black Tartan orange (BN4)
45 = Leatherette Black Tartan bright red (BN5)
47 = Leatherette Black Tartan burgundy red (BN6)
50 = Leatherette Black
53 = Leatherette Cameo white
56 = Leatherette Yellowstone
81 = Leatherette Black Tartan black-gray (BN9)

Posted by: StarBear Aug 24 2021, 05:26 PM

Jeff bowlsby has a bunch of charts of this stuff on his website. Many numbers for different materials though.

Posted by: davep Aug 24 2021, 08:50 PM

Yes, I am aware of Jeff's data, , and Johnson's Authenticity book both of which use the 3 digit color codes used in the parts manual. These are not the codes that I am looking for.
Good to add a link to Jeff's information though:
https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/PaintFabrics.htm

Posted by: Landi911 Oct 19 2021, 07:04 AM

Hello from Germany
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Hello from Germany
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Looks fantastic.

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Posted by: BillJ Oct 19 2021, 07:50 AM

QUOTE(davep @ Aug 24 2021, 05:35 PM) *

So, another kind of revival of this interior thread. What I am looking for in particular are the 2 digit interior codes of the sort usually seen in a CoA.
Examples:
11 = Black leatherette with leatherette seat inserts
11 = Black leatherette with corduroy seat inserts
11 = Black leatherette with pepita seat inserts
2x = Brown
3x = Beige/Tan
These vary over the years in terms of materials and model types.
But in 1975 the interior choices opened up with different materials and tartans and colors. There seems to be no chart to organize these codes and colors. So I need help if you have a code to go with any color combo. I have a mix of codes from 43 to 81, and am certainly missing some.
43 = Leatherette Black
44 = Leatherette Black Tartan orange
45 = Leatherette Black Tartan Light Red
50 = Leatherette Black
53 = Leatherette Cameo white
56 = Leatherette Yellowstone basketweave
?? = Leatherette Black Tartan black-gray

Black/Grey Tartan Cloth/81 according to my spec certificate

Posted by: Bullethead Jan 24 2023, 07:28 PM

I see references to early vs late dashboards, but I must be missing what the differences are. Please school me, trying to decide whether to attempt a restoration of the original dash, or buy a repop from 914 Rubber.

Car is a 1970 Six GT clone, and the interior will reflect that with Scheels, Perlon, rubber mats, etc. Thanks! beerchug.gif

Posted by: mepstein Jan 24 2023, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(Bullethead @ Jan 24 2023, 08:28 PM) *

I see references to early vs late dashboards, but I must be missing what the differences are. Please school me, trying to decide whether to attempt a restoration of the original dash, or buy a repop from 914 Rubber.

Car is a 1970 Six GT clone, and the interior will reflect that with Scheels, Perlon, rubber mats, etc. Thanks! beerchug.gif

Late dash pads have slightly different dimensions to accept the side vents. Opening for glove boxes x is different. Vinyl grain is slightly different.
I have a couple early dashes and one or two late ones sitting on a shelf for future builds. One of the early 4’s I bought was very rusty but an almost perfect interior. It was worth it just for the upper and lower dash. The repos are very nice but just like recovering a steering wheel, never the same as original.
I had a reproduction 914 dash but sold it to Gaswerks for their gold GT build.

Posted by: davep Jan 29 2023, 11:01 AM

I recently purchased a Paint and Interior binder with original factory pages for the various choices. For many year I had pages for 1970 through 1973 mostly complete. This purchase included 1975 & 1976, so I still have to look for the 1974 pages. Any leads appreciated. I do have some spare pages for 1972 and or 1973. The binder also includes 911 pages up to 1977, but again, 1974 is missing.
This has allowed me to update post 144 above for a nearly complete list of all codes used from 1970 through 1976. A little surprise was the tartan choice changes for 1976.
As always, any errors or omissions should be brought to my attention.

Posted by: 914werke Mar 3 2024, 05:23 PM

Interestingly even though there is a page for carpet fabric, nowhere is there a matrix that defines which carpet "color" is /would be matched with which seat color/material?

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