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Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Feb 6 2007, 12:13 PM

In the refurbishing of the engine bay, I began wondering about the clamps on the fuel lines. The originals, as I recall, were what I call "tension" clamps, sort of "spring loaded" by virue of their shape. I have something similar on my old motorcycle fuel petcock. What they have been replaced with over the years are the typical screwdriver-tightened "hose clamp". The P+A dealer sez the hose clamp is definitely better as they can be "tightened" and don't loose "tension" like the OEM do/did. I don't ever remember the originals getting "weak", as I remember it, they were a nuisance to get off in the first place because they were both so tight, and awkward to access to release the tension they held on the hose.

I'm assuming that the old syle clamps can still be gotten somewhere.

I know what's original here, I'm wondering what's better.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Feb 6 2007, 01:16 PM

Hate to put pressure on you, but remember it's not original unless you use them. I think they may still be available from the Porsche dealer.

Between you & me I would upgrade to a safety/practical installation with fuel lines, (my opinion).

Tom


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 6 2007, 08:54 PM

Tom,

I think what Paul is referring to are the clamps used to mount the fuel lines to the injectors. I say this because your pic is that of the clamps that hold the lines in place.

The original clamps that sealed the rubber/cloth fuel ine to the injectors was a crimp-on type claamp - not adjustable. On my 914, these were replaced with screw compression clamps when Porsche did the fuel line recall ('74?). They still work prefectly today & are very small.

Wish I could show a picture, but it's 28 degrees in my garage (5 degrees outside) & I'm a sissy.
Pat

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 7 2007, 11:38 AM

You can get the proper FI fuel line clamps anywhere, cheap. The usual ones are gold plated (nice like oem) but slightly deeper than oem. big deal they don't cut the fuel line like the crappy gasline screw hose clamps.

Next item is what fuel line are you using? I prefer the rubber coated High pressure hose from Porsche or Pelican Parts. You can save your old fuel line sheath too and reinstall it so it look oem but is safer. AA sells the preformed elbows that were part of the recall. don't use the fabic hose that comes on the injectors as it cracks in short order spraying gas all over the place!

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Feb 7 2007, 01:37 PM

Geoff, my 80K mile '76 still has the original hose on the injectors. What do I do and how?
Looks like a bitch to get the injectors out with the extra EGR plumbing in place (first time I have had a 914 with EGR, but it is plugged and not operative).

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 7 2007, 02:25 PM

If its still original seals and the nonrecall fi hose order the injector (inner and outer) seals and the recall supplied special formed elbows from AA. cut the fabric hose off the injector and replace it! Use the special FI hose clamps to clamp it to the injector and fuel rails. This can't be a Concours deduct cuz thats the factory recall method. Hopefully the other fi fuel line has been replaced or do it now like I posted keeping the special sheath and replacing the fuel lines before you have a fire.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Feb 7 2007, 03:08 PM

Thanks. The other lines in the engine compartment have been recently replaced with the fabric covered lines (hope high pressure!). The old lines came in the trunk, very hard rubber hoses. No sheath at all. I have dealer work order from 1977 stating "fuel line recall", N/C. Maybe I don't have the original hose on the injectors but it is old. Better look more closely.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 11 2007, 08:27 PM

Hey Geoff!

I don't hang around too many parts places, so where can these clamps be gotten? And how are they crimped into place?

Checked PP, PerfProd & AA - no listings for these. Where?!
Pat

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 11 2007, 09:55 PM

use these
http://www.gates.com/europe/brochure.cfm?brochure=2489&location_id=2959


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 12 2007, 07:06 PM

Here I go again getting confused. What your showing is what I have, from the recall program in 1976?

I thought you mean that there was a source for the "original" pressure clamps - the ones that had no adjustment. They were a metal band with a locking tab, apparently applied with some sort of crimping tool.

Don't really want them, since they were a bitch to remove. The ones you're talking about work perfectly & have for over 30 years on my car. Sorry for my confusion.
Pat

Posted by: 9146986 Feb 13 2007, 10:59 AM

AFAIK the recall is still active, and if the car has never had the (HO I think) recall performed, then in theory it could be done free at a Porsche dealer. Worth checking out anyway.

The factory style hose clamps aren't that much more than the worm screw type. One of the few Porsche parts that shouldn't come with a kiss.

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 13 2007, 11:36 AM

Yes, those clamps style fuel line clamps can be sourced but who wants them! The "Factory Recall" replaced the fuel lines and the pictured injector elbows and used the proper Fuel injection hose clamp. Those screw type clamp digs into the hose resulting in leaks, never use those.

For Concour judging, the proper fuel line, elbows and clamps per the recall should be considered as "factory" IMHO.


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 13 2007, 07:27 PM

I agree! That's what my original point was. The "campaign" parts are better & I've never seen a gig for having them. It's like the early 911's with hydropneumatic suspension - even Porsche recommended trashing it and PCA specifically recommended it & denounced points reduction for the refit.

Posted by: 914Rookie Feb 14 2007, 10:50 AM

This may be wishful thinking... but how long is a re-call good for ? I'm wondering if my '75 2.0 has had the service done and secondly if I can just stroll into my local Porsche Dealership and have them perform recall number 77V105000, replacing all my fuel hose for free !.

Thanks,

Greg

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 14 2007, 10:57 AM

OEM style for $.69 each
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=311133515

Posted by: MrKona Feb 14 2007, 07:31 PM

I bought these, very nice, great deal in my opinion.

Speaking of good deals, I just took a chance today and ordered 4 fuel hose elbows, but not the Porsche elbows from Auto Atlanta. ~$13.00 EACH is too rich for me. Instead, I ordered 4 BMW fuel hose elbows, BMW part # 16121176821 from this place:

$2.93 each. I believe they should be 7mm I'll let you know how they fit once I receive them.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=searchCatalogOEM&siteid=26

I found the part number from this website:

http://www.firstfives.org/faq/fuelhose/fuelhose.html

Posted by: Pat Garvey Feb 14 2007, 08:42 PM

The recall is still active for all 914's that haven't had it performed. Your local dealer should be able to tell you if your VIN has/has not been done. If is has been done (probably), they'll probably try to sell you another redo, and that's not a bad thing. If it hasn't, they'll do it. They don't care - get the cost from Porsche.
Find out - it's important

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Feb 15 2007, 11:29 AM

I know I have seen somewhere or heard here, that the recalls for 914s are no longer being honored. Something about 'reasonable time' or 'parts NLA opr something. The dealer network can verify if your vehicle has had the recall though.

The 914 fuel line recall was recall campaign HO.

http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/Recalls.htm

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 15 2007, 11:37 AM

mine didn't have the HO sticker nor did it have FI when I got it.

Posted by: 914Rookie Feb 15 2007, 05:16 PM

Jeff, not Geoff, (but thank Geoff also !)

Thanks for the link, I think I'll print out the official recall notice and drop on into the Porsche Dealership and see how many jaws drop on the floor when I ask for the HO recall service. I'll keep you posted, should happen sometime next week.

Thanks,

Greg

Posted by: 914Rookie Feb 22 2007, 01:15 PM

UP-DATE...

Just got off the phone with the local Porsche dealership and he said there is no statute of limitations regarding the recall. He did say that there may be a problem with parts availability. I'll drop by and see what they say when I get there in person.

Greg

Posted by: jk76.914 Feb 22 2007, 08:41 PM

I got my elbows from Stoddard's. $11.13 each. Part number is 043-133-187. Also, I got a bag of ABA hoseclamps from UltimateGarage.com. I think there were 25 in the bag.

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 22 2007, 10:03 PM

new acid resistant rubber fuel line and clamps are in short supply?

Posted by: MrKona Mar 2 2007, 10:47 PM

I received the fuel line elbows. They will work great for me, especially for the price. However, they do have markings on them which may not be appropriate for originality. Here are a few pictures. The clamp in this picture is from busdepot.com. I had my injectors cleaned by WitchHunter Performance, witchhunter.com.

- Bryan


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Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 3 2007, 09:15 AM

I ordered a set too and I am still waiting for em.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 3 2007, 07:12 PM

Do you think it's possible to "create" your own elbows by using somehting like a heat gun & the appropriate cradle device? What if you just used a n appropriate pice uf fuel line, connected everything properly & let it form itself over time?

Why the need for a pre-formed elbow?

Could you get kinking in the line if you didn't use an elbow?

Reason I ask is that's what I did 16 years ago. No problems, no leaks, no kinking.

Only reason I'm replacing is because they ARE 16 years old.

Insights?

BTW: 16 years ago, when I redid the lines last, I bought an extra 12 meters of the 7mm fabric covered lines. I though the price was ridiculous when is was $4/meter! Thought I'd have enough for the next time. Guess what - it's rotted! Mr. Smart Guy loses again. Buy it when you need it & it's fresh.

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 4 2007, 10:36 AM

You can use short pieces of rubber fuel line but it tends to sit out straight banging into the engine shelf. If you force it up like the 90 elbows yes, it kinks shutting off the flow.

I am always looking to do things right as the cheapest cost....

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 5 2007, 08:52 PM

OK, we're talking about very short/inexpensive pieces of straight fuel hose. My order is placed for 6 meters - fabric covered.

Now if ANYONE lets this out to my wife...... well, I won't be the only one to suffer. here's what I'll do. She has a curling iron that is 3/4inch she almost never uses. See where I'm going here? I think it'll work, for pennies on the dollar.

I'll make my own elbows! Will follow up.
Pat


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Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 5 2007, 09:25 PM

I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em.


You want to start a fire don't you!

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 6 2007, 08:20 PM

I like fire! Fire makes me feel so..... Kidding!!!!

Geoff, tell us more about the BMW ones - new to me, at least. Price is sure right.

Only place I want fire is in my fireplace - especially tonight (-15WCF).
Pat

Posted by: MrKona Mar 6 2007, 10:16 PM

Hi Pat,

I installed the BMW elbows (See pictures and web link for supplier in an earlier post). They fit great!

- Bryan

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 6 2007, 11:28 PM

mine haven't shown up yet.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 7 2007, 08:13 PM

Bryan - they look great!

But...... and I know most of you disagree with me, I want fabric covrered!

My 914's sole purpose is hardcore concours, so they have to be fabric covered. Yeah, Iknow, "they won't last as long", "they suck up juices from the battery". My batteries have never "juiced" my lines. Don't know why, because I aut-x'd the car for years. The lines I'm replacing are 16 years old (~4,000 miles) and I'm replacing them, not because of leaks, but because they are 16 years old. Worked OK & that's why I'm staying with fabric covered.

Many of you guys have tried to get me to change. I appreciate your concerns. I'm sticking with the originals until they are not available from any source.

Now, with that in mind, I'll let you know how things work out with the curling iron approach to elbows.
Pat

Yes, I AM a hardnose!

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 7 2007, 09:17 PM

So again Pat, why do they have tobe fabric covered as the Factory Recall campaign installed rubber covered hose and 90' injector elbows? It seems like you actually would be docked points for being incorrect for having fabric covered hoses and non 90' injector hose.

Sounds like you are creating something that isn't correct.

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Mar 8 2007, 10:07 AM

I think Pat is trying to make a 1972 914 "time capsule".

Posted by: jk76.914 Mar 8 2007, 11:37 AM

Pat, how are you reproducing that crimp-on clamp that came from the factory? I think that if you have to use a standard clamp, that the smooth hose is MORE original! Jim

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 8 2007, 01:06 PM

you can get those crimp clamps if you want to be "as delivered" but I don't think its worth the hassle.


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Posted by: jk76.914 Mar 8 2007, 02:34 PM

Mine were different. Maybe because it's a '76? The photo below shows the same type crimp mine had, but not on a 914 injector.....

Jim

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 8 2007, 05:23 PM

Thats only at the injector supplied by Bosch. The pic I posted is for the fuel lines.

Posted by: jk76.914 Mar 8 2007, 05:44 PM

Oh. I get it. I'm still wondering how Pat is going to reproduce that big honkin clamp at the injector!

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 8 2007, 06:34 PM

OK....allright....I give (slightly). I will NOT use fabric covered hose - for the injectors. OK? But, I will TRY to bend my own. Why? Because I want to & have nothing to lose. They don't work - fine. But, someone molds them to the 90 degree elbow. Why can't I? We'll see.

But you've convinced me to "alter" my thoughts a little. Will I put that stupid, hacked up Audi battery cover back on? No way! I'll use the original (provided it fits on whatever battery I have to use).

ALL the rest of the lines will be fabric covered. They look period. And...I like them, so there! PPPFFFBBBBTT!

You guys know I'm kidding (about PPPFFFBBBTT). I appreciate all of your input, wrong as it may be.
Pat

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 8 2007, 06:44 PM

Pualie, Paulie, Paulie!

I didn't make the time capsule. The Germans did. I'm only trying to keep it from being ruined (or, as they say here in Philly - "roont").

You're not rying to make a 1970 time capsule?

Just trying to keep it the way it has been since I got it in late summer of 1972. Yeah, I'm anal about it - for this 914! Wait 'till the next one - 180 degrees away!

Already have it planned. Soon as the '73 911T is gone, I'm on the hunt for a serious west coast tub. I'll probably be banned from this forum.

But....the '72 will remain a "time capsule".

BTW...they SAY that you can't turbo a 914. Hint.
Pat

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 8 2007, 10:04 PM

I knock off a few points "if" I were judging your car....

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 9 2007, 09:24 PM

How can you knock off points for something displayed as "as delivered"?

Early 911E's were delivered with hydropneumatic struts. They were a nightmare. Yes, it was regarded as an acceptable replacement if they were changed to conventional struts, but no points can be deducted if they weren't - because it's "as delivered".

Other issues come to mind, such things as Lucas electrics in an early Brit car, but my point remains this - a purist concours car is one displayed as closely to "as delivered" status. These cars remain as mileposts for those that followed, and should be kept as original as possible. Yep, I've had to make a couple of adjustments to a couple of things through the years, because of parts inavailabilty, but I try to keep my '72 as it was. If the original parts are still available, I'll use them regardless of cost.

My 914 has had less than 20 thousand miles put on it in the last 33 years. I watch over it like it was my child. I'm not going to jeopardize it in any way. Safety checks are ongoing, as always.

So, gig me if you wish for not having "contemporary" fuel lines. But, I'll protest & bet I win.

No malcontent meant. Opinion of the writer only.

Pat

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 9 2007, 09:29 PM

Here are the OEM fabric injectors for a 2.0L and a pic of the Recall formed injector hose just for you Pat.
Notice how the OEM injectors are formed too! The rubber replacement hose also has the proper Porsche recall clamp.

IMHO its either with the Bosch supplied fabric hose (yuck) or the recall formed elbow.


I am a pain in the ass aren't I?


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Mar 9 2007, 10:29 PM

Back to an earlier unanswered question: How do you duplicate the crimped connection to the injector?

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 10 2007, 02:29 AM

you can't that I know of. There is a way to do the crimps on the fuel line thou.

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 10 2007, 08:07 PM

Nope, sorry, not a PIA. Remember, this is a forum - all place for all ideas to be put forth. In fact, I've gotten a lot from your postings!

And, just to show that I'm only 99.9995% anal about this thing, you've convinced me to go with the elbows (already have the clamps, from BusDepot). Now, with that in mind, someone (maybe you) said there was a (shudder!) BMW source el cheapo for these things. True?

But, I'm still going with fabric-covered for the rest.
Pat

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Mar 10 2007, 08:14 PM

Here you go Pat

Posted by: jk76.914 Mar 10 2007, 09:47 PM

You know, if money's no object, you can get the original (as it left the factory) by buying new fuel injectors. Every one I've ever seen come with the braided elbow hoses already clamped to the injector with the big momma clamps....

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Nov 3 2007, 01:49 PM

Just to throw a philosophical wrench into the works: As I recall, cars that have had the HO campaign will have the smooth hose throughout the engine compartment. If your car has had the campaign, then it has to have that hose to be correct. Whay say you?

The Cap'n

Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 3 2007, 08:49 PM

True, I suppose. But what if you want to retro? Since I'm one who believes the campaign was not necessary, if you take proper precautions/care, I'd prefer my 914 to be in as-delivered condition. Never had a problem, though I did have the campaign performed - since gone back to retro. The cobbled up mess of a battery cover did nothing to make a difference, so I went back to original. Nothing on my 914 indicates (other than my records) that the campaign was ever performed.

So, I'll stay with my fuzzy lines. Besides, they match (other than colors) the vacuum lines & I like it.

Curmudgeon? Yeah, you could say that.
Pat

Posted by: AvalonFal Dec 7 2007, 11:12 AM

Anybody else use these BMW hoses on a 914 FI? Do they fit...work OK??

Posted by: slackin' at work Dec 8 2007, 07:40 AM

I read this thread a week or so ago and saw the BMW hoses. I jumped on
it because they are over $10 cheaper a piece.

I received them the other day and the bend radius is a perfect match.
they are a little longer than original, so I will probably trim them a little
on each end to match the originals. ID seems right-on as well.

I have yet to actually put them into service but that shouldn't be in issue.

all-in-all, I feel like I stumbled onto some good advice from this thread.

Posted by: John Jentz Dec 8 2007, 10:55 AM

Another wrench, if originality is of importance, how can you use hose clamps without the VW logo embossed on them? Both the HO radiused clamps and the pre HO flat clamps have "GEMI" , 13, and VW embossed on them. All of the HO hose had VW and the hose size 7 x 3 and date code printed on it. If anal retentivity ( spell that CONCOURS) is the game original means original not Bus Boys, not BMW, not anything but period correct original. Pat has a better chance at original with the fabric covered hose if he sources brand new injectors with the factory crimp and restores ORIGINAL hose clamps w/SILVER cad as the original clanps were silver not gold. I for one cannot be bothered with concours although I do have dealer supplied HO hose, bent elbows and Yellow GEMI 13 (no VW) hose clamps.

Posted by: euro911 May 23 2008, 11:11 PM

The economic pinch has set in ... the BMW elbows have sky-rocketed to an astounding price of $3.06 each !

They'll work fine in my old DD (the 'BB')

Posted by: Tom_T Apr 6 2009, 02:36 PM

Request an update of this factory fuel lines/battery recall.....

So according to the Porsche HO Battery/Fuel Lines Recall posts above - so long as mine never had it done - I can go to my local dealer here in Orange County, CA & have them do it????

[b]Was the guy above successful in having them do his, or did the dealer just waffle & claim that they cannot get the parts? &/or has anyone else been successful recently?[/b]

If they cannot get the Porsche OEM parts, can they be forced to do it under Federal law &/or US-DOT regs. & use some of these alt. parts/sources listed here (i.e.: from BMW, AA, PP, Peli, etc.) where OEM/OES parts aren't available to do this recall work?

Anyone here in SoCal want to recommend which local dealer is most HONEST, reliable & does quality work for this type of recall fix?

I'd used Chick Iverson in Newport Beach "back in the day" - but we used to call them "Gyp" Iverson (sp?) for a good reason, and they're no longer the owners. They're now call Newport P/A, & then other local choices are: Circle P/A/VW in Long Beach, & several Rusnak locations - but which one(s) is/are best??

I've owned the 2L since 12/85 (2nd owner - I think), & don't think that it was ever done by the PO/OO. I never did it because I switched to using the sealed batteries when I did my first replacement in 76-77. ...maybe now is the perfect time to "get a round tuit" - because....

Man - this could save me significant dollars in bringing my 73 2L out of storage sine 5/85! I'd only have to replace the rubber fuel lines & parts "north of" the engine bay!

If so - Whooopie!

And a HUGE THANX to all of you posting on this & the other threads. I've been reading thru all of them as applicable to my project, & have learned so much - parts, alts. sources & techniques, as well as probably saving some coin (& my marriage) in the process. This is a Gold Mine!

Someone ought to distill these 10,000's of threads & posts into book form & publish it, & then the proceeds maybe could be used to reduce our (free) dues.....!?

Of course - something like that could help fund a big annual or biannual event....

A very grateful...

Posted by: davesprinkle Apr 6 2009, 05:20 PM

Oetiker makes the crimp-on clamps. Every fuel fitting in my entire car, save the two on the fuel filter, is done with these clamps. Due to the different sized lines, you'll need two different clamps. The clamps and the tool are available from McMaster-Carr.

12.3 to 14.5mm clamp McMaster #52545K53 $8.48/25
13.2 to 15.7mm clamp McMaster #52545K54 $8.53/25
side-jaw pincer tool McMaster #6541K69 $24.63/ea

You CW types should be aware that the PNs above are for clamps that are similar to but not exactly the same as the factory clamps. They differ slightly to allow more consistent radial clamping load under the clamping "ear". I believe, though, that McMaster may also sell the std type clamp. Here's a pic. The big size is what I use for the CV boots.


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Posted by: euro911 Apr 6 2009, 09:24 PM

The clamps on the injectors in our '71 looked different than those. Some of them had the cloth covered hoses, and some just rubber hoses too, so I don't know if they were OEM or not

I used a Dremel tool to cut the 'original'? clamps off when it was time to replace the old hoses.

I didn't even bother to look for that type ... just used the worm screw type (they were German replacement clamps though) ... the same type that were on all the other hoses (at the pump, pressure regulator, etc.)


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Posted by: Pat Garvey Apr 7 2009, 06:53 PM

As an update on this ancient post, I have bent to safety. Yes, the original battery cover will stay, but the injector elbows are about to be replaced with safer ones.

I bend to safety, since mine are leaking like a sieve! Also have nice, new Witctchunter injectors & seal, so the time is right.
Pat

Posted by: Tom_T Apr 7 2009, 08:37 PM

Anybody have some input on having the fuel lines recall work done now & other questions which I posed above?

Mark - you're in SoCal - any reccos for dealer(s) to do a good job on the fuel lines recall at this late date?

Pat - glad to hear your change of heart on this, since many a 914 has been lost to engine bay fires!

And that's about the time period since your "curmudgeon" post that it usually takes for the non-campaigned fabric covered lines to fail, altho I'm surprised it did when you've said somewhere that you use the sealed batteries! ...so maybe this indicates a deeper flaw in the OEM lines!?

Thanx!

Posted by: euro911 Apr 7 2009, 09:57 PM

Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recommendations for repair facilities.

I typically do my own work, mainly because I don't trust any VW dealership's mechanics any further than I can throw them ... they destroyed my wife's 1999 Beetle before it hit 34k miles.


Except for the injector elbows, all the engine bay's top-side hoses on my wife's 71 appear to have been replaced with 'ribbed' rubber hoses. I'm currently replacing what appear to be the original cloth-covered fuel tank and pump hoses, and installing a new tank screen.


As for a VW dealership providing service for a recall that long ago ... all I can say is good luck. They could probably do it, but I'll bet they'll charge you up the arse.

I'm sure someone from the OC area will pop in and recommend some independent repair shops that can do the job for a reasonable price if you don't plan to do it yourself.

Posted by: Tom_T Apr 7 2009, 10:32 PM

Thanx anyway Ron.

FYI - earlier in this thread someone else had tried to get the Porsche dealership (not VW) in their area to this 914 fuel lines/battery recall for FREE as an ongoing Federal/DOT requirement for any 914 never done.

I was hoping to save some coin by having the dealer do that portion of mine, then I'll have my "regular" mechanic Hans at Hans Imports - who was P-Factory trained on 914s back in the `70s (as well as VW's) - check the dealers work when they change out the other fuel lines not covered.

I could probably do it myself, but am not sure how much I want to tackle on my own with everything else to get this long term storage recovery & body work, & if I did - then I'd have them check my work too.

They've worked on my 914 since I got it in 12/75, & he checked it out & several others before I bought this one. They also have done my 88 Westfalia since new too & all my other cars, and they are a VERY well reputed independent. They do what needs to be done right & stand behind their work, & don't do add-ons to pump up the invoice!

I can highly recommend them if you're ever in need & are anywhere close to Huntington Beach: Hans Imports - 714/960-9000 & 714/536-4000 - ask for Carl or Hans & tell them Tom T. referred you.

Anyway, I'll need to check further on that freebie campaign idea, in order to hopefully offset or reduce some of the significant total costs of getting my `73 2L running again after 24 years stored in my garage!

Best!
Tom

Posted by: Tom_T Apr 16 2009, 03:37 AM

OK - I've partially answered my own question on this recall campaign, by asking at Porsche Cars of North America (1-800-PORSCHE & Option #3), after I was referred there by the gal doing my COA.

As I suspected - they're obligated under Federal Law & DOT Regs. to do it - no matter at what point (talk about open-ended liability!?).

They will still do the Fuel Lines & Battery Cover/Pad Recall Campaign at your local Dealership, & the dealer can contact them &/or the Porsche Warranty Dept. there for the parts, which are supposedly still available.

If you call the number above & provide your VIN, they'll check their records, and if it's never been done on your 914 - then you're IN! They'll assign a case number for your car, and assist with getting it done, if you meet resistance at the dealer.

I cannot yet say whether it will get done, nor if it will be good workmanship. Most of the mechanics at dealers weren't even born when the 914s were built - let alone work much on them!

So - I'll wait & see.....

Let me know if anyone else has had any success?