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Posted by: JackB Jun 3 2008, 10:26 PM

The C of A for my 914/6 says my car had vinyl seats (they have corudroy inserts) and a rear fog light (I can find no evidence of one ever having been mounted). So, in general, can the C of A be relied upon to describe the car as it was delivered?

Jack.

Posted by: Gustl Jun 3 2008, 11:00 PM

does it show the option codes?

as I've seen in the past, sometimes the option codes seems to be correct, but the guys at Porsche just mis-interpreted then dry.gif

bye1.gif Gustl

Posted by: Mr_Zambezi Jun 4 2008, 01:32 AM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Jun 3 2008, 10:00 PM) *

does it show the option codes?

as I've seen in the past, sometimes the option codes seems to be correct, but the guys at Porsche just mis-interpreted then dry.gif

bye1.gif Gustl


Ditto, that is what George H. (DR 914) relayed to me as well. As a result the certificates can be incorrect. You should know what your car came with from the production info on the site, as well as looking it up in a book, such as B. Johnson's restoration book. If your certificate doesn't jive with what these sources tell you, you may have a problemo! I hear Porsche knows of the problem and is working on it?

I just ordered mine and have my fingers crossed. Hope this helps somewhat.

Posted by: watsonrx13 Jun 4 2008, 07:09 AM

Jack, I've heard several stories of people ordering the COA and not getting the correct information. I also sent out for a COA for one of my cars and it came back with the correct description. So, I guess it's a crap-shoot. BTW, I've heard that if you aren't satisfied with the results, you should be able to contact them and work out the differences, without any extra cost.

-- Rob

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Jun 5 2008, 08:43 PM

Here....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76235

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jun 5 2008, 08:58 PM

My guess is that porsche still does not give a crap about the child fathered out of wedlock (914). My COA is nebulous at best, and repeated emails & calls to VM about it over 2 years have met with zero response.

Bet if i had a contemporary Porsche, it would different. A total waste of money! I don't think the people at PCNA care or know their ass from a hole in the ground. We're on our own!
Pat

ps: scuse me for the less-than-appropriate verabge - just tired of fighting it. Not really happy with the Porsche company these days - seem to have forgotten thier roots.

Posted by: carr914 Jun 13 2008, 09:22 PM

The CoA's would be more accurate if a grade school kid wrote one with a crayon. It doesn't matter if it is a 914 or 911. My 74 Carrera was so wrong, a blind midget could get it better. No offense to any blind midgets around here. Wait what would a blind midget do with a Porsche...there has to be a joke in here somewhere.

T.C.

Posted by: Rusty Jun 13 2008, 09:57 PM

For our cars, the COA is a joke and a waste of money.

The lack of seriousness on this issue is a direct reflection of how PCNA & PCA feels about 914 and their owners... until they want our $$$.

Posted by: auerbach Jun 13 2008, 11:19 PM

My COA came in saying that I had a 912 with tinted glass. I don't think so!

Posted by: JackB Jun 16 2008, 10:16 PM

Thanks, everybody. I've owned many early 911s and 356s and never had a COA that didn't look right. I guess this isn't true for the 914/6. The tipoff for me was the rear fog light. I mean, how many US cars could have been delivered with these? I think I'll quit worrying about it and just enjoy the car.

Thanks again!

Jack

Posted by: smg914 Jun 16 2008, 11:21 PM

QUOTE(JackB @ Jun 16 2008, 08:16 PM) *

Thanks, everybody. I've owned many early 911s and 356s and never had a COA that didn't look right. I guess this isn't true for the 914/6. The tipoff for me was the rear fog light. I mean, how many US cars could have been delivered with these? I think I'll quit worrying about it and just enjoy the car.

Thanks again!

Jack

Last year I did some research on why there were so many errors on 914-6 COA's. I discovered that when they were looking up the options they were using the Option Code List for Porsche 944/951/968 cars. They didn't realize there was a difference. Many of the option code numbers for the 944/951/968 cars are the same as the option code numbers for the 914-6. The only problem is that the actual options are different. That is why you will see High Output Air Conditioning (option code 570) on many 914-6 COA's. Option code 570 for a 914-6 should be a Center Seat Cushion. Option Code 571 on a 944 is a Fog Tail Light. On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

Posted by: Gustl Jun 16 2008, 11:33 PM

QUOTE(smg914 @ Jun 17 2008, 06:21 AM) *

On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

Steve, M571 is definitly the rear fog light on the 914 & 914-6
I have the price list (german) where it says so - currently I'm in a hurry so I can't post it now - maybe after I'm back home from the office

bye1.gif Gustl

Posted by: smg914 Jun 17 2008, 09:50 AM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Jun 16 2008, 09:33 PM) *

QUOTE(smg914 @ Jun 17 2008, 06:21 AM) *

On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

Steve, M571 is definitly the rear fog light on the 914 & 914-6
I have the price list (german) where it says so - currently I'm in a hurry so I can't post it now - maybe after I'm back home from the office

bye1.gif Gustl

Hmmm maybe your right. When I saw 571 "Fog Lights" for the 914-6, I assumed that was referring to the ones in the front bumper.

Posted by: Gustl Jun 17 2008, 12:58 PM

here we go

this is a partial scan of W41-010-0371-0108 (price list for optional equipment, 914 & 914-6, 911 T/E/S, valid from March 1, 1971)

571 ... Nebelschlußleuchte (nicht mit US-Ausstattung)
translation:
571 ... rear fog light (not with US equipment)




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Posted by: JackB Jun 17 2008, 04:53 PM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Jun 17 2008, 02:58 PM) *

here we go

this is a partial scan of W41-010-0371-0108 (price list for optional equipment, 914 & 914-6, 911 T/E/S, valid from March 1, 1971)

571 ... Nebelschlußleuchte (nicht mit US-Ausstattung)
translation:
571 ... rear fog light (not with US equipment)



So, the rear fog light was not even available on a US spec car. That makes my COA incorrect. PCNA owes me a refund!

Jack

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