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Posted by: J P Stein Jul 10 2010, 08:23 AM

If not (or if so), here's some pics...painful tho they are.
Don't look at them all quickly without a barf bag close at hand.


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Posted by: DanT Jul 10 2010, 08:54 AM

wow, that looks a lot like when we used to run at Candlestick.
There were some swails there that if the course was not designed correctly, cars would get completely airborne.
Great on the suspension and other low hanging components

Posted by: brilliantrot Jul 10 2010, 06:30 PM

That is brutal. Props to the people who stuck it out but I would have to have gone home either out of pain or because I ran over my own front bumper. You almost need a rally car for that stuff .

Posted by: grantsfo Jul 10 2010, 07:17 PM

Yeah I would have to question officials who allowed that to fly. We could do the same thing with our venues but we dont purposely route course so cars are in danger of breaking. Makes for great internet pictures however!

Posted by: J P Stein Jul 10 2010, 08:43 PM

As I said "Painful".......we screwed the pooch. There is one 12 foot wide patch to
avoid all of that bump...... it wasn't used. We got plenty of grief at the event for the bump but we needed more. I was driving the 944 in the pic. I missed the worst of the bump in my first pass, got it square in the 2nd, and missed it in subsequent passes......but you're right, it shouldn't have been hitable.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jul 11 2010, 12:02 AM

That's downright sad. That could end what is meant to be fun in tears.

Posted by: strawman Jul 11 2010, 12:19 AM

+ on that. I took my old CSP '86 Toyota MR2 to some SCCA events at Candlestick and caught air a few times. I refused to take my subsequent F125 Shifter Kart there -- didn't wanna crack the frame!!!

Posted by: Kalva Jul 11 2010, 07:55 AM

WOW in the NYR SCCA our nationaly ranked drivers would have packed up after their first run if the Safty Officials didn't correct the course, better to save the tires/cars for another day.

Posted by: J P Stein Jul 11 2010, 08:55 AM

We in Portland are "special". PIR is the only venue within 130 miles....one way.
I have seen 2 cars break their suspension here , a 911 & an RX3.
Many local AXers won't run here, but this the spot for both SCCA & PCA. (tho Packwood is coming into play more & more) My ex-914 was built to run on the crap and has been airborne more than once.....I've suffered double vision from the shaking....but nothing has broken. I've never invited anyone here to play as even the relatively smooth courses are an embarrassment.

This particular course was the designers attempt to put 5 pounds of shit in a 2 pound bag.( a 50+ sec course on a 40 sec tops venue, IMO)
The biggest mistake was not running the course at competitive AX speeds prior to the event.
A total redesign/set up would have been necessary. After the event had started and one run group had run without much problem, that option was a non-starter.
The problem came as the faster guys of the 2nd run group got after it. The 3rd run group (the hot dogs) saw how to avoid the worst of it.

Posted by: cary Jul 11 2010, 09:57 PM

My car looks broken. Keeps a licking and keeps on ticking.
But she lived to fight another day.

Posted by: koozy Jul 12 2010, 12:25 AM

Ouch...