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Posted by: elacore Apr 23 2011, 09:12 PM

Hello fellow 914'ers

I was wondering if I could get some input on weither or not I should keep my windshield.

I bought a $1000 914 and am currently stripping it to be a "street legal weekend track car"

As of now I have stripped EVERYTHING (most of it for sale) out of the car and am getting it ready for paint.

My son thinks it is a great idea to take the roof/side windows and windshield off to "save weight", save money by selling them and it means less masking and painting when it comes time to do that.

Personally I am worried that it wont be street legal (even though my son insists that if we put a "bubble" screen it will be. And that I dont want to be caught out in the rain (even though I wont be driving this much except to the track, at the track and back... and maybe on a nice sunny summer day)

Any input?

Posted by: john rogers Apr 23 2011, 09:56 PM

As for legality, check with your DMV, don't believe anyones "opinions" about legality. As for dirt, rocks, road goop in the face, you'll get it and on the road it will be much worse than on a track.

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Apr 23 2011, 10:29 PM

Please don't remove that stuff . You can shed a great deal of weight in other places and still keep all the lines

You can always replace the glass with lexan.

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 24 2011, 11:14 AM

I believe you'd get grief about a "Ginther" type windscreen from virtually any of the track sanctioning bodies. You would have to put in a full height cage which would look terrible, negating the sans-windshield 'look', as well as put some weight back up high anyway.

Posted by: whatabout1 Apr 24 2011, 05:28 PM

No windshield on the street will require goggles. At least it does for me on my sand rail.

In NC a windshield is not required but working windshield wipers (2) are.

Posted by: Nicky Apr 24 2011, 07:17 PM

With regards to non street/ track only cars, Are cars like these below grandfathered in or something? Or is there some kind of helmet scrub line used if the car were to end up upside down? I love the look of these cars, and wondered why some go with the high rollbars in the front. It seems rare that sprites, mgbs, triumphs, etc ever have a front high rollbar. But, maybe I'm just not noticing them.

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 24 2011, 07:34 PM

The SCCA is quite specific about a cage/rollbar for actual racing like the Red car (which looks legal to me). The config is in the rule book.

I'm thinking that the windshield delete is pretty much for trailered cars.
Bout 35 mph your unprotected eyes start watering.

Posted by: brant Apr 24 2011, 08:33 PM

I believe the road race rule for SCCA was that the cars ALREADY LOG BOOKED without a windshield or upright cage were grandfathered.... but that new builds were not legal.

you definitely need to check:
1) the rules in your state DMV
2) the rules in any sanctioning body you want to run in


there is a good chance that you won't be legal in one or the other of them.
check first.

its about 20lbs or so over lightened everything else (lexan, and thin roof)

on the counter arguement... I've seen 944's shed front wheels on track. Its not fun to see a wheel come bouncing your way. I choose to leave something to stop my face from being the front line defense on track. I've seen other race cars put in full front cages and put in strips of metal infront of the driver (jail bars) to stop airborne track carnage from hitting their face. (it does happen)

brant

Posted by: neilca Apr 25 2011, 04:23 AM

For any street driving keep the windshield. My helmet has a n 1/8 tjhick visor for rock and wind loads.

Posted by: grantsfo Apr 26 2011, 04:52 PM

I do miss getting sprayed by race rubber on the track and its fun when big bugs hit your face shield at 100 MPH plus!

Posted by: zymurgist Apr 26 2011, 05:11 PM

Having a clear barrier to keep things out of your eyes is a Good Thing.

Ask any biker who has taken a bug to the eye.

Posted by: damesandhotrods Apr 26 2011, 10:53 PM

It was back in California, during the 20th century so I don’t remember all of the details, but a friend of mine was pulled over for driving a Scout with the windshield folded down. There was a grandfather clause for the old Scouts, Jeeps and others that had folding windshields. But he still lost time at work going before a judge, and from then on kept a photo copy in the glove box because he knew if did it again he would be pulled over and go through the whole thing again.

Posted by: stugray Aug 4 2014, 02:34 PM

So as to not start a new thread on this subject:

What is the preferred thickness of Lexan for those of you putting in full windshield replacements?

Posted by: Seabird Aug 4 2014, 02:44 PM

I dont know but I can check the thickness of the one that is in my car tonight when I get to the shop if you would like.

M

Posted by: brant Aug 4 2014, 03:04 PM

its in the rmvr rule book
the thinnest version is too thin

Posted by: Seabird Aug 5 2014, 08:26 AM

Mine measured out at .28" as best as I could measure it. It does not flex or appear inssuficient....then again I have never taken a hit with it. It is made a by a company named Shield something or other.

Hope that helps.

M

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 5 2014, 09:03 AM

Shields makes a good Lexan windshield. IIRC their standard thickness is 7mm.
I think SCCA allows down to 6mm.

Posted by: stownsen914 Aug 11 2014, 12:31 PM

I had a 3/16" Lexan windshield in my 914 racecar before I went with the low windscreen. It bowed visibly at speeds over 100 mph, even with the metal supports on the inside. I'd do 1/4" next time.

Scott