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Posted by: stewteral Oct 30 2012, 09:06 PM
Hey 914 Parking Lot Heros:
Bravo to Matthew Schneider who will be running his 914 at the Streets of Willow Springs this week-end. I can only wish all you parking-lot champs would RISK the next step to REAL track events!
Some decades ago, I used to take Top Time of the Day in Dad's REAL 289 Cobra,
while always knowing that it was only a step the the Real Driving On-Track.
I know there are those nervous feelings of making the step, but I can Promise that the Streets of Willow Springs is the safest track anywhere: there is lots of 'spin-off room' and NOTHING TO HIT.
Further, of the Time-Trial groups running these events: SpeedTrialUSA.com, SpeedVentures.com and XtremeSpeedTrackEvents.com, All offer LOW COST driving schools for beginers, followed by at least 2 levels of "intermidiate" classes
which allow you to drive as you are comfortable without being DIVE-Bombed
by more advanced drivers.
So, I'm throwing down the Gauntlet: Are YOU MAN Enough to try a REAL Race Track? I GUARANTEE you will have a GREAT driving experience. The most often comparison: "The MOST FUN you can have with your CLOTHES ON!"
While time is short to make the 03-04 Nov. event with Speed Ventures.com, they have another event on 01December at 'Streets (December is often the BEST weather all year at Willow Springs).
Come-on REAL MEN!
Terry
Posted by: J P Stein Oct 31 2012, 07:22 AM
Ah, another flat out racer.
Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 08:12 AM
What's a race track? 
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 31 2012, 11:08 AM
Thanks Terry,
Matthew will be heating up those Khumos this weekend at Willow.
Still space available for late comers....go to Speedventures.com.
He's running our CI car which ain't too shabby.
We are building our new 914 racer for next year with Cayenne v8 biturbo power.
See you at the races!
Marty
Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 11:27 AM
Thanks Terry,
Matthew will be heating up those Khumos this weekend at Willow.
Still space available for late comers....go to Speedventures.com.
He's running our CI car which ain't too shabby.
We are building our new 914 racer for next year with Cayenne v8 biturbo power.
See you at the races!
Marty
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Posted by: stewteral Oct 31 2012, 12:35 PM
Thanks Terry,
Matthew will be heating up those Khumos this weekend at Willow.
Still space available for late comers....go to Speedventures.com.
He's running our CI car which ain't too shabby.
We are building our new 914 racer for next year with Cayenne v8 biturbo power.
See you at the races!
Marty
Marty,
Good on you, Mate! I hope you had a great time.
Relative to your bi-turbo car: The concept is exciting, but there are issues to be dealt with when changing to a High-CG engine. I'd be glad to share what I've had to go through with the Chevy engine in getting the car to handle.
Best,
Terry
Posted by: brant Oct 31 2012, 12:42 PM
Nice thread
but I would challenge you that RACING... does not mean going on a track
Racing means WHEEL TO WHEEL competition with other cars....
I would love to see more teeners actually competing wheel to wheel !
Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 12:58 PM
Nice thread
but I would challenge you that RACING... does not mean going on a track
Racing means WHEEL TO WHEEL competition with other cars....
I would love to see more teeners actually competing wheel to wheel !
Harris Hill Road in San Marcos Tx. has a spec 914 class.
Posted by: brant Oct 31 2012, 01:04 PM
Nice thread
but I would challenge you that RACING... does not mean going on a track
Racing means WHEEL TO WHEEL competition with other cars....
I would love to see more teeners actually competing wheel to wheel !
Harris Hill Road in San Marcos Tx. has a spec 914 class.
CVAR in texas has a bunch of 914's running in various vintage classes.
Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 02:12 PM
Nice thread
but I would challenge you that RACING... does not mean going on a track
Racing means WHEEL TO WHEEL competition with other cars....
I would love to see more teeners actually competing wheel to wheel !
Harris Hill Road in San Marcos Tx. has a spec 914 class.
CVAR in texas has a bunch of 914's running in various vintage classes.
My sales manager bought this car for CVAR. The fourth pic is in our showroom. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=194676
Posted by: brant Oct 31 2012, 02:41 PM
good deal
I hope he is at TWS this weekend.
I heard there will be 5 teeners running there this weekend.
Posted by: brant Oct 31 2012, 02:43 PM
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Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 03:33 PM
I don't think he has the car ready yet. He had to order a different seat and some other things.
Posted by: Eddie914 Oct 31 2012, 08:58 PM
I would love to drive the Streets of Willow Springs! Unfortunately the drive from Seattle is a bit long.
I risk my teener sometimes.
This is not a "real" race track but there is a bit of risk ...
http://vimeo.com/51577249
Cheers,
Eddie
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 1 2012, 08:57 PM
Good on you, Mate! I hope you had a great time.
Relative to your bi-turbo car: The concept is exciting, but there are issues to be dealt with when changing to a High-CG engine. I'd be glad to share what I've had to go through with the Chevy engine in getting the car to handle.
Best,
Terry
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Yes a tall engine is nothing like the flat engine our cars were designed for.
We are taking a whopping 9" out of the oil pan, just like the winning Action Express Racing , Daytona car.
Then going to a true dry-sump,, not the Cayenne style.
This places the engine down better.
Also an inverted gt2 trans at a whopping 175 lbs hanging down low.
Still will have 5-6" of ground clearance.
Lots of innovations in this car, I will pm you in the near future.
Posted by: Randal Nov 1 2012, 09:59 PM
Hey 914 Parking Lot Heros:
Bravo to Matthew Schneider who will be running his 914 at the Streets of Willow Springs this week-end. I can only wish all you parking-lot champs would RISK the next step to REAL track events!
Some decades ago, I used to take Top Time of the Day in Dad's REAL 289 Cobra,
while always knowing that it was only a step the the Real Driving On-Track.
I know there are those nervous feelings of making the step, but I can Promise that the Streets of Willow Springs is the safest track anywhere: there is lots of 'spin-off room' and NOTHING TO HIT.
Further, of the Time-Trial groups running these events: SpeedTrialUSA.com, SpeedVentures.com and XtremeSpeedTrackEvents.com, All offer LOW COST driving schools for beginers, followed by at least 2 levels of "intermidiate" classes
which allow you to drive as you are comfortable without being DIVE-Bombed
by more advanced drivers.
So, I'm throwing down the Gauntlet: Are YOU MAN Enough to try a REAL Race Track? I GUARANTEE you will have a GREAT driving experience. The most often comparison: "The MOST FUN you can have with your CLOTHES ON!"
While time is short to make the 03-04 Nov. event with Speed Ventures.com, they have another event on 01December at 'Streets (December is often the BEST weather all year at Willow Springs).
Come-on REAL MEN!
Terry
Why track it when you can run hill climbs!
Posted by: wndsrfr Nov 2 2012, 05:33 AM
Ah, another flat out racer.
I'm taking mine to Roebling at Savannah for the Dark Side DE where I can drive flat out....keep telling the wife "its not racing, its education".......
Posted by: andys Nov 2 2012, 09:50 AM
Terry invited me (insisted) to drive his car @ SOW. I had to turn down his gracious offer. Saturday I have to drive my daughter across town to take her SAT, then to final rehersal. Sunday, she's performing in a rock band at the Route 66 Diner.
Have fun without me!
Andys
Posted by: campbellcj Nov 2 2012, 10:54 PM
Unfortunately my @#^$ing car is still not ready plus I have family commitments this weekend. Have fun out there!
Posted by: Phil Plummer Nov 4 2012, 07:47 PM
I would love to drive the Streets of Willow Springs! Unfortunately the drive from Seattle is a bit long.
I risk my teener sometimes.
This is not a "real" race track but there is a bit of risk ...
http://vimeo.com/51577249
Cheers,
Eddie
Hi : do you know where I can get a oil cooler to fit my 916 style bumper?? That 911 3.0 needs to stay cool !!-Phil
Posted by: wndsrfr Nov 4 2012, 08:08 PM
I would love to drive the Streets of Willow Springs! Unfortunately the drive from Seattle is a bit long.
I risk my teener sometimes.
This is not a "real" race track but there is a bit of risk ...
http://vimeo.com/51577249
Cheers,
Eddie
Hi : do you know where I can get a oil cooler to fit my 916 style bumper?? That 911 3.0 needs to stay cool !!-Phil
Phil...I've got an RX7 cooler -- say $50-- let me know if you want it...
John
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 4 2012, 10:44 PM
The Speedventure event was ok, but nobody does it better than the POC.
Our 914-c.i. Car ran 1:33.997 Ccw and 1:33.107 CW, stuck really well and we finished up our scrub Khumos too! We will keep our new rubber for a decent POC event.
Much of the talk in the pits was about the corner workers and their wielding the black flag in
excess. I think that if these workers could maybe put their pushbrooms to work, there would be fewer cars on the debris-which causes most of the John Deere adventures.
Most of the flaggers stand in their cement forts toking on a stogie, are these folk kidding me?
So then our car gets black flagged, and we pull in and lose there laps discussing
that a corner worker states that we do not"Know the race line"
Ridiculous!
We set POC lap records here, my son's home track since he was 16.
I told this "Professional" to put one of their HIGH desert crackheads in our car and SHOW us a proper line.
With nothing else he had to say, we departed for the remainder of the session. Other than this
minor irritation, a great weekend, and met Terry with his crazy
fast 914-v8.
Marty /Matt
Posted by: stewteral Nov 6 2012, 08:46 PM
Terry invited me (insisted) to drive his car @ SOW. I had to turn down his gracious offer. Saturday I have to drive my daughter across town to take her SAT, then to final rehersal. Sunday, she's performing in a rock band at the Route 66 Diner.
Have fun without me!
Andys
Re: Last Saturday @ Streets of Willow.
I tried my DAMNEST to get AndyS in the car as a thank-you for his 5+ years of spending his time and $$ to come out to the track and show how to make the chassis work. He is a TRUE RACE ENGINEER!
There are ONLY 2 people I trust to drive my beast: AndyS is one and my Brother is the other (but I worry about brother).
AndyS, being a great Dad, took his daughter to the VITAL SAT test session.
I cannot fault him for his choice: Good Man!!
The GOOD NEWS: I think he's interested in coming out to help me with the new
Royale Formula Ford.....Dang, how did I get so lucky?
Terry
Posted by: stewteral Nov 6 2012, 08:59 PM
The Speedventure event was ok, but nobody does it better than the POC.
Our 914-c.i. Car ran 1:33.997 Ccw and 1:33.107 CW, stuck really well and we finished up our scrub Khumos too! We will keep our new rubber for a decent POC event.
Much of the talk in the pits was about the corner workers and their wielding the black flag in
excess. I think that if these workers could maybe put their pushbrooms to work, there would be fewer cars on the debris-which causes most of the John Deere adventures.
Most of the flaggers stand in their cement forts toking on a stogie, are these folk kidding me?
So then our car gets black flagged, and we pull in and lose there laps discussing
that a corner worker states that we do not"Know the race line"
Ridiculous!
We set POC lap records here, my son's home track since he was 16.
I told this "Professional" to put one of their HIGH desert crackheads in our car and SHOW us a proper line.
With nothing else he had to say, we departed for the remainder of the session. Other than this
minor irritation, a great weekend, and met Terry with his crazy
fast 914-v8.
Marty /Matt
Hey Marty,
It was great meeting you and Matty Saturday and I was very impressed by your knowledge of all things Porsche and Matty's solid driving.
I have to agree that the corner workers were WAY TOO FULL of THEMSELVES!
Iwas black-flagged 3 times: once was a tiny strip of weather stripping that dangled below the car and once where I did a tank-slapper, dropped 1 wheel off
but gather it up and went on. HOWEVER, I had HIT A RUBBER CONE!! I was SO ASHAMED. On the last conversation with the Black Flag guy, he said "Take it easy out there." I was thinking WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?: THIS IS A RACE TRACK.
The general opinion in the pits was that the corner workers all came from the nearest trailer park with No Checking if they could write their name. While this is a toungue-in-cheek joke, the corner workers have been doing an ever-worse
job over that last few years.
The incident I keep remembering was while tearing over the blind rise at the chicane on the inside straight at about 110, a corner worker chose that moment to run across the track in front of me. WHAT?
And so it goes,
Terry
Posted by: campbellcj Nov 6 2012, 11:36 PM
I think it was John Williamson (Otto) who once said to me, "Just think about it Chris. You're trusting your life to a crackhead whose brain is fried from standing in 115 degree sun all day working for minimum wage..."
Luckily POC seems to get the better of the corner and grid workers. I'm still bummed I missed the event despite the horrible sounding track conditions and flag-happy corner worker stories.
Posted by: naro914 Nov 8 2012, 03:25 AM
Nice thread
but I would challenge you that RACING... does not mean going on a track
Racing means WHEEL TO WHEEL competition with other cars....
I would love to see more teeners actually competing wheel to wheel !
Agreed:
http://youtu.be/bsY_IrthO0s
http://youtu.be/Ahp-E4uqrbw
http://youtu.be/5U0KeDXozMc
http://youtu.be/r19jISBsbFA
these are just the ones I've uploaded to Youtube, thought 2011 and 2012 have been bad years for my racing career due to constant "issues" (broken suspension, stripped gears, bad set ups, spun rod bearing, etc) Looking forward to 2013 with a newly built engine, newly built tranny, new set up, new aero, etc...
Got lots of DE video, but that's not racing... other video's at www.naroescapemotorsports.com
Posted by: larryM Nov 8 2012, 10:25 PM
since 1972
VARA & SCCA logbooks
here it is at WSIR
.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 8 2012, 10:44 PM
There were several 914s mixing it up on the big Willow track on Sunday.
From our pit at the STREETS , near the big track back straight, we saw a good race.
Vintage Camaros, Mustangs, 510s, 240z, bmw 2002, 911+ 914.
Great entertainment while tending to our 2.0.
Posted by: Trekkor Nov 9 2012, 12:22 AM
At Laguna Seca
At Thunderhill
KT
Posted by: brant Nov 9 2012, 09:32 AM
Trekkor,
you really ought to take the 914 vintage racing and run some wheel to wheel with it.
Posted by: BKLA Nov 9 2012, 09:50 AM
Trekkor,
you really ought to take the 914 vintage racing and run some wheel to wheel with it.
Brant -
I would love to race my 914 6 in historic events. I looked into it locally (SOVREN, SVRA and VSCCA) and my 914 doesn't qualify... (flairs, brakes, motor...) Trekkor and I run similar motors and now have similar bodywork since he added flairs...
It seems I could do the portland historic races based on HMSA rules, but my car has no previous race history and all of the organizations list that as a prerequisite.
I would love to see a thread on "How to race your 914 in Historic Events". (hint hint
)
Posted by: Trekkor Nov 9 2012, 12:25 PM
My motor is not vintage legal, right?
2.6
I am nervous about getting hit.
KT
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 9 2012, 02:43 PM
Trekkor, Don't worry about banging up the headers.
I can always hook you up with a new set of MSDS 
Posted by: Trekkor Nov 9 2012, 02:53 PM
I have scuffed my headers up a bit with my 'curb surfing'.
I welded on mini skid plates, because of that.
Great headers!
KT
Posted by: Mugs914 Nov 13 2012, 04:37 PM
This one is just getting dialled in. We call it the Junk Yard Dog because the tub was found in a storage unit and was it was built up from parts we had around the shop. Pic from it's first 'real' race at Buttonwillow...
Gotta find a phone book to sit on...
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Posted by: Mugs914 Nov 13 2012, 04:44 PM
Here's 'nuther...
2.0 four, some kind of cam (not sure who made it - pulls to about 7k), Carillo rods, Webers, etc. Got some ignition issues to work out, but so far, so good!
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Posted by: mettelman Nov 13 2012, 07:09 PM
A great vintage shot ... the car mine is modeled after
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Posted by: mettelman Nov 13 2012, 07:12 PM
Vintage Fall Festival- Lime Rock Park
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Posted by: Racing916 Nov 20 2012, 09:48 AM
There are at least 3 racing PCA in GT4 and GT3 in the northeast.
Here is the 2012 races at Watkins Glen and at NJMP.
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Posted by: MikeSpraggi Dec 7 2012, 10:26 PM
Another thread here, but I thought I'd post here too. Another 914 gone racing. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=199591
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