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Posted by: Randal Jun 19 2013, 09:35 PM


Oh boy!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 20 2013, 05:20 AM

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Posted by: Krieger Jun 20 2013, 10:38 AM

Im not quite ready yet. Who is this Racer X?

Posted by: Trekkor Jun 20 2013, 10:48 AM

Orange cars are pretty quick!


KT

Posted by: Randal Jun 20 2013, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(Trekkor @ Jun 20 2013, 09:48 AM) *

Orange cars are pretty quick!


KT


Do you mean Tangerine? ph34r.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 20 2013, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 20 2013, 04:20 AM) *

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Posted by: brant Jun 21 2013, 08:06 AM

Tangerine is nice....

welcome to the club
I love my tangerine

are you going wheel to wheel?
its such a blast, I'd recommend it!

Posted by: mskala Jun 21 2013, 09:47 AM

Why are there whole threads without any information at all? I thought the point of boards like this was actual communication.

Posted by: Randal Jun 21 2013, 11:30 AM

QUOTE(mskala @ Jun 21 2013, 08:47 AM) *

Why are there whole threads without any information at all? I thought the point of boards like this was actual communication.


Can't say who it is yet, until possession of the car takes place, which is soon.

Stand by. biggrin.gif

Posted by: McMark Jun 21 2013, 09:11 PM

I think I just connected this thread and your phone call. shades.gif

Posted by: Trekkor Jun 21 2013, 10:45 PM

Tomorrow is the big day...


KT

Posted by: brant Jun 21 2013, 10:48 PM

Go wheel to wheel with a teener! You won't regret it.

Posted by: Trekkor Jun 21 2013, 11:52 PM

Not my deal or car, I just know the details about the deal and the car...


KT

Posted by: Randal Jun 22 2013, 07:47 PM

I just saw the car. New owner should be posting a picture tonight.

This car has some nice grunt and with some minimal dieting will be quick at all events.


Posted by: nine14cats Jun 22 2013, 09:37 PM

Ok...so Doris and I are not new...but we are old... laugh.gif

I've been busy in racing Spec Boxster and will continue to do so but Doris will be returning to the track for Time Trials and we will both be competing in AX again next year, so the answer was obvious....we needed another race car.

1971 tub, 3.2 Carrera motor rebuilt with cams and a Steve Wong chip and other goodies. 231HP at the wheels. All Patrick Motorsports Conversion bits, comes with a 901 in the car and a good 915 box just waiting for some WEVO parts.

Tarett Engineering Anti Roll bar up front and other nice features.

First up is a diet to get weight down. I will weigh her tomorrow on my scales after I align the Spec Boxster.

The plan is to evolve this car into a nice lightweight GT3 car. I will post as we go along.

Doris and Bill P.

Oh...here she is!

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Posted by: McMark Jun 22 2013, 09:58 PM

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Posted by: Trekkor Jun 23 2013, 01:03 AM

I had a chance to drive it on track, but passed headbang.gif


KT

Posted by: Trekkor Jun 23 2013, 01:06 AM

The passenger seat for this car is on a short loan to me for this coming weekend's LeMons race...


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KT

Posted by: r_towle Jun 23 2013, 06:31 PM

Bill,

Welcome back to the cheap side of the tracks.

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jun 27 2013, 01:51 PM

I still have 2 "BPR Racing" magnets on my 914 that I got from Randall after loaning jack stands/tools to him at an AX a few years back.

Nice 914 beerchug.gif

Posted by: nine14cats Jun 29 2013, 02:47 PM

Currently the car weighs in at less than 2100lbs.

This will be a fun project!

Bill P.

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 1 2013, 06:29 PM

Nice to see you guys with a 914 again!

Still have your motor ...
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Posted by: brant Jul 1 2013, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(nine14cats @ Jun 29 2013, 02:47 PM) *

Currently the car weighs in at less than 2100lbs.

This will be a fun project!

Bill P.



how much less?
metal or fiberglass?

Posted by: nine14cats Jul 1 2013, 07:28 PM

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 1 2013, 05:46 PM) *

QUOTE(nine14cats @ Jun 29 2013, 02:47 PM) *

Currently the car weighs in at less than 2100lbs.

This will be a fun project!

Bill P.



how much less?
metal or fiberglass?



Hi Brant!

2060lbs. All metal right now. I plan on leaving the GT fenders alone if possible. I like the vintage look. I've got to decide on tires and other things and then go for some fiberglass and / or carbon fiber.

Bill P.

Posted by: brant Jul 1 2013, 07:56 PM

you can stay all metal and still get the weight down..

I've got metal front and rear lids, with metal doors and metal fenders
1826 wet.

it just takes a lot of work
but the metal keeps it more vintage eligible with more clubs.....

Posted by: Matt Romanowski Jul 1 2013, 07:59 PM

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 1 2013, 05:56 PM) *

you can stay all metal and still get the weight down..

I've got metal front and rear lids, with metal doors and metal fenders
1826 wet.

it just takes a lot of work
but the metal keeps it more vintage eligible with more clubs.....


That is pretty light. With a 3 liter and a 901, our car weighs 2052. We do have 15 quarts of oil, so that is 28 pounds. We have glass lids and glass fenders. I'm not sure how we could get another 200 pounds out of the car.

Posted by: brant Jul 1 2013, 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Jul 1 2013, 07:59 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 1 2013, 05:56 PM) *

you can stay all metal and still get the weight down..

I've got metal front and rear lids, with metal doors and metal fenders
1826 wet.

it just takes a lot of work
but the metal keeps it more vintage eligible with more clubs.....


That is pretty light. With a 3 liter and a 901, our car weighs 2052. We do have 15 quarts of oil, so that is 28 pounds. We have glass lids and glass fenders. I'm not sure how we could get another 200 pounds out of the car.



its all in attention to detail.
we run 19quarts of oil, so just shy of a 5 gallon bucket of royal purple with the twin front oil coolers....
we run a six, and a 901 also and still get to that weight. our weight is wet with the oil and 4 gallons of fuel. our mag case probably saves 20lbs over a 3.0/6


its a lot of aluminum brackets and attention to detail.
you can see nearly all of our tricks in the build thread.
we built with a $50/ lb rule.... ie: if we could save a pound for under $50 and stay legal (metal) it was worth considering.


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Posted by: brant Jul 1 2013, 10:51 PM

frank beck's 6cylinder is rumored to be under 1600lbs and wheel to wheel legal, although not all metal. I'm confident we could pull another 125lbs out if we started cutting and using fiberglass, but wouldn't be vintage legal for our club any longer.

(that is frank becks old flywheel above)

Posted by: Woody Jul 2 2013, 06:32 AM

Under 1600 pounds? Wow.

Posted by: Matt Romanowski Jul 2 2013, 06:54 AM

Nice work. I'll have to check out the build thread.

Posted by: J P Stein Jul 2 2013, 08:15 AM

The shitbox was at 1726.......then we got to the trans & lost another 20ish pounds.
A more well done cage would have lost at least 20 more.....lighter brakes would be another 20......still over 1600. We had to be at 1794 minimum to run XP.....no motivation there.

Posted by: grantsfo Jul 2 2013, 07:27 PM

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 1 2013, 07:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Jul 1 2013, 07:59 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 1 2013, 05:56 PM) *

you can stay all metal and still get the weight down..

I've got metal front and rear lids, with metal doors and metal fenders
1826 wet.

it just takes a lot of work
but the metal keeps it more vintage eligible with more clubs.....


That is pretty light. With a 3 liter and a 901, our car weighs 2052. We do have 15 quarts of oil, so that is 28 pounds. We have glass lids and glass fenders. I'm not sure how we could get another 200 pounds out of the car.



its all in attention to detail.
we run 19quarts of oil, so just shy of a 5 gallon bucket of royal purple with the twin front oil coolers....
we run a six, and a 901 also and still get to that weight. our weight is wet with the oil and 4 gallons of fuel. our mag case probably saves 20lbs over a 3.0/6


its a lot of aluminum brackets and attention to detail.
you can see nearly all of our tricks in the build thread.
we built with a $50/ lb rule.... ie: if we could save a pound for under $50 and stay legal (metal) it was worth considering.

I'm with Brant I never get it when most 914/6 guys say that can't get under 2000. Of course I'm a guy who developed a 1975 lb Boxster. Now I have 370z crowd in disbelief as I head under 2700 lbs. it just take focus on every little detail.

I was surprised by weight on bills car though. For all steel car with full cage, top , valances, dot r tires , etc it's pretty light.

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