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Posted by: Randal Dec 1 2014, 11:24 PM
Had an offer today from a well know 914er. So let's see what 222 would look like without the Targa.
Here is before:
More recent: 
OK Mark, let's see how it looks AFTER!
Posted by: J P Stein Dec 2 2014, 11:26 AM
I looked at removing the targa bar. I decided that by the time I added structure to replace the thing, the weight savings would be minimal.....plus the handle is a very recognizable feature of the 914.....without it, it's just another Miata.
Posted by: Randal Dec 2 2014, 12:52 PM
Had an offer today from a well know 914er. So let's see what 222 would look like without the Targa.
Here is before:
More recent:
OK Mark, let's see how it looks AFTER!
Or maybe this one is easier to photoshop?
Posted by: McMark Dec 2 2014, 04:44 PM
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Posted by: Randal Dec 2 2014, 07:15 PM
Not bad and a FB Targa could always be added later.
Man, the car sure looks long.
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Posted by: Trekkor Dec 3 2014, 03:02 AM
I vote for not cutting off the targa bar.
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 3 2014, 09:51 AM
PS: Hi Trekkor!
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 3 2014, 11:48 AM
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It sits too high off the ground.
Posted by: Randal Dec 3 2014, 07:18 PM
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It sits too high off the ground.
And I'll bet you know exactly how to fix it!
Posted by: Chris Pincetich Dec 4 2014, 01:49 PM
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What's the story with that amazing, shiny bus in the background of the photos above??
The targa-less picture looks pretty good. A clear cover over the engine would look awesome
Posted by: Randal Dec 4 2014, 07:52 PM
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What's the story with that amazing, shiny bus in the background of the photos above??
The targa-less picture looks pretty good. A clear cover over the engine would look awesome
Yea, for looks you'd definately need something over the engine. But as I said a FG targo only weights 4lbs.
The bus in the background is Randy Grubb's Decoliner. Randy races with all the Medford boys, drives his Dad's Birkin. He is really a good driver and does well at all the events he runs. Nice guy as well. And of course a real artist. BTW just Google his name and check out the stuff he has built.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 4 2014, 09:18 PM
DO NOT DO IT! 
Posted by: steuspeed Dec 4 2014, 09:24 PM
Hey, that's the Blastolene Decoliner RV in the background. I would like to see that up close.
Posted by: eric9144 Dec 4 2014, 09:35 PM
DO NOT DO IT!
Posted by: Randal Dec 4 2014, 10:45 PM
DO NOT DO IT!
your kidding, right?
Posted by: Randal Dec 4 2014, 10:46 PM
Hey, that's the Blastolene Decoliner RV in the background. I would like to see that up close.
Everything Randy does is perfect. Unbelievable really, the things he does.
Posted by: Randal Dec 4 2014, 10:47 PM
DO NOT DO IT!
Your car would be so good on a hill!
Posted by: dlkawashima Dec 5 2014, 12:30 AM
Posted by: Randal Dec 5 2014, 07:00 PM
I could get used to it.
Posted by: plays with cars Mar 26 2015, 12:23 AM
I could get used to it.
It has a 908 flavor to it without the targa bar. I like it. Didn't think I would. But I do.
Posted by: Mugs914 Mar 26 2015, 12:36 PM
It has a 908 flavor to it without the targa bar. I like it. Didn't think I would. But I do.
Didn't think I would like either, but I've got to say it does look pretty good.
I'm not generally a fan of slant-nose bodywork on 914s either, but without the targa bar it would really complete the 908 look. Might be pretty cool!
Posted by: Randal Mar 26 2015, 07:09 PM
It has a 908 flavor to it without the targa bar. I like it. Didn't think I would. But I do.
Didn't think I would like either, but I've got to say it does look pretty good.
I'm not generally a fan of slant-nose bodywork on 914s either, but without the targa bar it would really complete the 908 look. Might be pretty cool!
I think if it's done right it'll be nice And who's going to argue with losing 20 lbs or more off a race car.
Here is a picture of a D Sport Racer...with a nice curved straight back, so thinking there are possibilities to make a 914 look good. Just get out the blocks of foam and start forming until you like what you see.
Posted by: stownsen914 Mar 27 2015, 12:53 PM
Not everyone's cup of tea perhaps, but have a look at my 914 - no targa bar, and slope nose bodywork.
I also put a headrest fairing on the car, and an air scoop running to an airbox under the engine cover.
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Posted by: Randal Mar 30 2015, 09:10 AM
Not everyone's cup of tea perhaps, but have a look at my 914 - no targa bar, and slope nose bodywork.
I also put a headrest fairing on the car, and an air scoop running to an airbox under the engine cover.
Where did you race the car and do you still have it?
Posted by: jd74914 Apr 2 2015, 10:41 AM
Not everyone's cup of tea perhaps, but have a look at my 914 - no targa bar, and slope nose bodywork.
I also put a headrest fairing on the car, and an air scoop running to an airbox under the engine cover.
Where did you race the car and do you still have it?
If you have more pictures I would love to see them too!
Posted by: Mugs914 Apr 2 2015, 11:32 AM
Not everyone's cup of tea perhaps, but have a look at my 914 - no targa bar, and slope nose bodywork.
I also put a headrest fairing on the car, and an air scoop running to an airbox under the engine cover.
Well, there are exceptions to every rule! I have always been a big fan of your car Scott. The 935 nose looks great and the aero looks to be very well thought out. I would love to see it in person. That pic looks like the Glen, any chance you'll be at the PCA race there in May?
My comment about slope noses really pertains to most of the street kits I have seen. In my opinion, the rest of the body needs to be pretty highly modded too if the slant is going to look right...
Scott's car counts in that regard!!
Mike
Posted by: r_towle Apr 2 2015, 09:13 PM
Scott,
It looks like your car is sitting to high and you need to lower the center of gravity...
Posted by: stownsen914 Apr 3 2015, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the comments, guys. I have run the car for years at track day events. I haven't raced it yet, but am planning to give that a try this year in PCA club racing. Planning for the Monticello race in May. Probably won't make the WGI race this year, but would absolutely like to do that one too.
Mugs - WGI is a long haul for you, right? You racing or volunteering/working?
She does sit low - I spent a lot of time making that the case. Bodywork, clearing low hanging items to lower the car as much as possible, etc.
Posted by: Racing916 Apr 3 2015, 10:47 AM
Stowsen914,
Please sign up for the Club Race at Watkins Glen. last year I was one of two 914s racing and we could use another to infuriate the 911 crowd. Besides that you get to hang out with MUGS who I got to meet last year.
Steve
Posted by: Mugs914 Apr 8 2015, 11:59 AM
Yeah Scott, WGI is a little more than walking distance from my place. 
Actually, I'm the Chief National Scrutineer for PCA Club Racing, so I get around quite a bit during race season! I'll be at the Glen again this year; if you can make it that weekend it would be fun to meet you and have a chance to see your car. I met Steve and his dad there last year. Awesome folks!
Mugs
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