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Posted by: Franky_Four_Fingers Jun 14 2020, 05:41 PM
Hoping I can tap into the collective knowledge here:
I bought a 1971 914 which was built and raced in CVAR about a year ago and would like to continue my plans to create a GT tribute. The car came with a fresh 1.7 which I'm told was enlarged to a 1.9. The transmission (side-shift) was rebuilt and modified to be "close ratio". There was also some top-end mods done in 2018 in an attempt to find more HP.
I will post what info I have below, but I'm hoping some of you might help me identify what I have and what it's worth. My other question is whether or not I should keep the modified transmission or run the stock rebuilt 901 that I have. I'm planning to install a 2.2 with moderate cams and carbs. TIA
Info from the build sheet:
Engine: New Weber 40 IDF’s / EMPI Manifolds & Linkage / New Distributor Cap / Coil / Wires / Points / Plugs / New Euro Racing Matched Length Headers and Megaphone Exhaust. Heads overhauled by HFM 9:1 compression cut, New Pushrod Tubes and Viton Seals. New SCAT Hi Capacity Oil Sump.
Transmission: Internals Rebuilt by Joe Cogbill: Close ratio 4/5 gears installed, all new syncros, diff seals and gaskets. Shift linkage re-bushed and adjusted.
In case anyone here knows the car, I will post a pic.
Posted by: jmz Jun 14 2020, 08:38 PM
I know the car sort of... It never really raced much with CVAR. Showed up at one or 2 events. I know that it went home early one event as i think it wasn't running well.
I think the car was just never sorted out. ...no idea what it is worth. It doesn't really matter though. ...it it is a solid platform and you want to build a GT Clone get after it.
Posted by: Charles Freeborn Jun 14 2020, 08:57 PM
The engine will be worth something whole to someone looking to stay in the 1.7ish ball park. The 4 bolt heads are the limiting factor for those seeking performance. 40's are a good match for the 1.7.
Transmission "close ratio" is kind of hard to pinpoint. Will only be usable to another racer as close ratio boxes (S, X) will yield good power band shifting in a race setting , but not really good on the street. I may be interested in the box as a spare for my race car.
Values? hard to say -Engine in the $1-3 k range. Trans in the $1-1.5k range. Just wild guesses.
Posted by: Franky_Four_Fingers Jun 15 2020, 08:41 PM
I know the car sort of... It never really raced much with CVAR. Showed up at one or 2 events. I know that it went home early one event as i think it wasn't running well.
I think the car was just never sorted out. ...no idea what it is worth. It doesn't really matter though. ...it it is a solid platform and you want to build a GT Clone get after it.
Thanks for sharing: The car had 2 CVAR tech stickers on the windshield which I assumed were testing sessions. I think you are correct about the sorting issues: After taking delivery, I needed to correct a number of things before testing it at the track.
Posted by: Franky_Four_Fingers Jun 15 2020, 08:43 PM
The engine will be worth something whole to someone looking to stay in the 1.7ish ball park. The 4 bolt heads are the limiting factor for those seeking performance. 40's are a good match for the 1.7.
Transmission "close ratio" is kind of hard to pinpoint. Will only be usable to another racer as close ratio boxes (S, X) will yield good power band shifting in a race setting , but not really good on the street. I may be interested in the box as a spare for my race car.
Values? hard to say -Engine in the $1-3 k range. Trans in the $1-1.5k range. Just wild guesses.
Thanks for your input, Charles.
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 16 2020, 08:43 AM
Good luck with the EMPI linkage. Tangerine Racing, Chris Foley, has the best set up.
Posted by: Charles Freeborn Jun 16 2020, 11:17 AM
The engine will be worth something whole to someone looking to stay in the 1.7ish ball park. The 4 bolt heads are the limiting factor for those seeking performance. 40's are a good match for the 1.7.
Transmission "close ratio" is kind of hard to pinpoint. Will only be usable to another racer as close ratio boxes (S, X) will yield good power band shifting in a race setting , but not really good on the street. I may be interested in the box as a spare for my race car.
Values? hard to say -Engine in the $1-3 k range. Trans in the $1-1.5k range. Just wild guesses.
Thanks for your input, Charles.
I wish I was closer. I'd figure out a way to buy the whole driveline to use as an FP class set up. If you've still got it in a couple of months let me know and maybe we can work something out.
Posted by: Franky_Four_Fingers Jun 16 2020, 03:34 PM
The engine will be worth something whole to someone looking to stay in the 1.7ish ball park. The 4 bolt heads are the limiting factor for those seeking performance. 40's are a good match for the 1.7.
Transmission "close ratio" is kind of hard to pinpoint. Will only be usable to another racer as close ratio boxes (S, X) will yield good power band shifting in a race setting , but not really good on the street. I may be interested in the box as a spare for my race car.
Values? hard to say -Engine in the $1-3 k range. Trans in the $1-1.5k range. Just wild guesses.
Thanks for your input, Charles.
I wish I was closer. I'd figure out a way to buy the whole driveline to use as an FP class set up. If you've still got it in a couple of months let me know and maybe we can work something out.
Will do!
Posted by: gms Jul 6 2020, 04:44 PM
Did you get to race the car?
I am local, in Batavia IL out west
Posted by: Franky_Four_Fingers Oct 31 2020, 10:53 AM
Did you get to race the car?
I am local, in Batavia IL out west
Hi Glenn, sorry I missed your post. I took the car to ABCC and put it back on the trailer after 6 laps. While correcting the previous owner's "sins", I decided the car needed a complete rebuild.
I'm currently in the process of correcting rust issues, rewiring, installing flares and 2.7. Pic of the car in it's current state:
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