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Posted by: 396 May 9 2007, 08:04 AM
Can any one ‘refresh’ my memory on sway bar settings?
IE: pushing on front and or over steer.. how to set up. More sway bar up front and or soften rear. Is been a while since I really had to think of this.
Thank you.
Posted by: groot May 9 2007, 09:21 AM
Stiffen front bar -> more understeer
Stiffen rear bar -> more oversteer
Posted by: 396 May 11 2007, 12:40 PM
Stiffen front bar -> more understeer
Stiffen rear bar -> more oversteer
thanks!
Posted by: SirAndy May 11 2007, 12:59 PM
there's even more to it ...
each bar individually can be used to adjust the front AND rear handling.
so, with just a front bar, you have two options, with a front and rear bar, you have four options. (if the rear bar is adjustable, that is)
for the front bar:
- tightening the bar (moving the arm towards the BACK of the car) will reduce oversteer (the rear gets more grip) and add understeer (front gets less grip)
- losening the bar (moving the arm towards the FRONT of the car) will reduce understeer (front gets more grip) and add oversteer (rear gets less grip)
oversteer = rear end is lose
understeer = front end is pushing
Andy
Posted by: drew365 May 11 2007, 05:15 PM
there's even more to it ...
each bar individually can be used to adjust the front AND rear handling.
so, with just a front bar, you have two options, with a front and rear bar, you have four options. (if the rear bar is adjustable, that is)
for the front bar:
- losening the bar (moving the arm towards the FRONT of the car) will reduce oversteer (the rear gets more grip) and add understeer (front gets less grip)
- tightening the bar (moving the arm towards the BACK of the car) will reduce understeer (front gets more grip) and add oversteer (rear gets less grip)
oversteer = rear end is lose
understeer = front end is pushing
AndyYou're going to mix him all up Andy.
Loosening the front bar - adds more grip to the front = less understeer, more oversteer
Tightening the front bar - adds more grip to the rear = more understeer, less oversteer.
Think of it as a see saw, by loosening the front you're sending more weight transfer to the front and adding grip to the front. By tightening the front you're sending more weight transfer to the rear and adding grip to the rear.
That should be clear as mud.
Posted by: SirAndy May 11 2007, 10:00 PM
You're going to mix him all up Andy.
god damm it, i mixed them up! ahhh, i need a drink ...
AndyPS: i edited my post ...
Posted by: 396 May 13 2007, 05:41 PM
there's even more to it ...
each bar individually can be used to adjust the front AND rear handling.
so, with just a front bar, you have two options, with a front and rear bar, you have four options. (if the rear bar is adjustable, that is)
for the front bar:
- losening the bar (moving the arm towards the FRONT of the car) will reduce oversteer (the rear gets more grip) and add understeer (front gets less grip)
- tightening the bar (moving the arm towards the BACK of the car) will reduce understeer (front gets more grip) and add oversteer (rear gets less grip)
oversteer = rear end is lose
understeer = front end is pushing
AndyYou're going to mix him all up Andy.
Loosening the front bar - adds more grip to the front = less understeer, more oversteer
Tightening the front bar - adds more grip to the rear = more understeer, less oversteer.
Think of it as a see saw, by loosening the front you're sending more weight transfer to the front and adding grip to the front. By tightening the front you're sending more weight transfer to the rear and adding grip to the rear.
That should be clear as mud.
For those that have responded, thank you very much!
Drew, I guess if I have questions, I can ask you at the fture POC events:)
I'm headed to the El Toro PCA A/X to 'test' my now almost completed car out.
Should see you at NASA / POC events:) Thanks for jumping in when I NEED help- I don't forget those things:)
Andy and groot- thank you too.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 Jun 3 2007, 01:53 PM
will you be at El Toro on the 17th?
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