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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 18 2004, 11:56 AM

crest.gif Saturday, August 7th is the date set for SMOG’s Mid-West 914 Classic 2004. It will begin at 8:30 am on the lawn of the Whitmore Lake Big Boy/Best Western Motel at Exit 53 off of US 23. There will be competition for various categories such as “best 6 cylinder car”, “best 4 cylinder car, early and late model”, “best paint job”, “people’s choice”, etc. There will also be plenty of time for bench racing and parts swapping so bring your rare parts and memorabilia to sell or trade. We expect to hand out awards and then break for lunch about 12 noon. The afternoon kicks off with the “Fun Run Straight To HELL!” (Hell, Michigan. that is) and a stop for ice cream before continuing on with the Fun Run. From Hell, we’ll saddle up and experience some of the best 914 roads lower Michigan has to offer. We’ll finish up at Yesterday’s Collection. If you’ve never been there, you’re in for a treat. They sell all sorts of automobile memorabilia, models, books, you name it. Oh, and they also have an ice cream parlor!
We look forward to seeing everyone there. Further details regarding the event will be posted as they become available. Rooms are available at the Best Western Motel at a discount if you mention you’re with the Porsche 914 group. The number is (734) 449-2058.

Posted by: mr914 Apr 18 2004, 12:44 PM

I'll be there.

Hmm.. that T-shirt looks familair...

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Apr 18 2004, 01:17 PM

Hi Curvie,

Good Job & Thanks for re-organizing the Mid-West meet. My sympathy goes out to Dave, since he is the orginator of this meet. I am sure Dave will surface once he feels able.

Lets get down to the business of making this meet a success. Looks like lots of help is behind Curvie (Tom) & the SMOG group. Looking forward to Aug. 7th.

Maybe I can still have that "smack down" with Tom Potter on the hood of
Rich's 914-8 - Alien - 928 powered car. Hope he comes.
Winner get's a bottle of "Two Buck Charlie Wine". Same bottle from last year. Potter didn't show up. Are you out there Potter???

Tom,

P.S.
I have some other news soon to be released. Hint, Hint (it's about the VW invite to YPSI, MI on May 23rd.)

Posted by: seanery Apr 18 2004, 01:23 PM

Thomas,
I've edited your avatar a bit.
here it is: 125x83.

thanks,
sean


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Posted by: Hawk Apr 18 2004, 02:12 PM

Curvie, BS Chairman and I will be there. That's 3.
I just picked up a 71 canary yellow 914 and it will be there too.
4 cars and counting......

Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 18 2004, 02:16 PM

Tom,

I had spoken with Dave about cooridinating the names of all the events so people would recognize them easier in the future. One common naming structure for West Coast/Mid West/East coast. My thoughts where in line with the VW guy's who have held similar events for 20 years with the same name. People in the VW circles still speak of XXX#10 10 years after the fact. I certaintly cant outright ASK you to follow along, but it would be greatly appreciated if we could speak about it over the phone. I still have your cell number.

Let me know.


B

Posted by: itsa914 Apr 18 2004, 08:54 PM

According to map quest its 215 miles, and Michigan is 1 hour ahead...... Starts at 8:30am....um,...subtract....times the diameter of the moon.... idea.gif Once I add all that up what does it mean confused24.gif

Either I get on the road at 3am or head up Friday night... ROAD TRIP...... Sean ya going??? driving.gif

Now to explain to the wife why after spending the entire week before on a "FAMILY" vacation with her side why I must go back to Michigan spank.gif

- Garold

Posted by: tanner Apr 18 2004, 09:13 PM

Hi I'm new to the board, I had lunch with Dave Kimple today @ monthly PCA meet. What a great guy. I'm so glad that the meet is going to still happen!! smilie_pokal.gif One other thing I'm picking up a 914/6 this friday I can't wait driving.gif I'll see you guys in August

Posted by: robby750 Apr 19 2004, 04:07 AM

Can someone tell me what City this event will be held in?

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 19 2004, 04:10 AM

Garold, The only penalty for being late is less time to chatsmiley.gif and to wub.gif the cars. The site is about an hour north of last years' site. Hope to see you there. As for Sean, he better show, or I'm crossing him off my Christmas card list!! wink.gif

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Apr 19 2004, 05:31 AM

Robby,

Whitmore Lake, Michigan approx. (10) miles North of Ann Arbor, MI

Tom

Posted by: Gint Apr 19 2004, 06:39 AM

tanner, welcome to the club!

Posted by: seanery Apr 19 2004, 07:52 AM

Robby, we could caravan if you like.

Tom, I must have just missed your Christmas card last year then, huh?

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 19 2004, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(seanery @ Apr 19 2004, 05:52 AM)
Tom, I must have just missed your Christmas card last year then, huh?

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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 19 2004, 03:25 PM

OK, Here's progressively increasing detailed maps to the event:


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 19 2004, 03:26 PM

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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 19 2004, 03:26 PM

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Posted by: Hawk Apr 20 2004, 08:58 AM

We have secured a group room discount for you at the Best Western across the lawn from the event at exit 53 off US23 in Whitmore Lake, MI for August 6-7.
Tell them you are with the Porsche 914 group and you will be offered a room with a
King bed = $67/night or
2 Queen beds = $71/night

phone number at the Best Western is: 734 449-2058

Oh ya, there is also an Outriggers Bar/Club just next door to the Big Boy restaurant for those of you staying over (or is that hanging over?). wacko.gif

Posted by: mr914 Apr 26 2004, 09:17 AM

I'll be bringing my '71 914-4.

May even bring the 914-6 #269 Rotiserie and all.


45 minute drive from home for me

Posted by: jfort Apr 29 2004, 08:11 AM

I'll be there. Driving up I-75 from Findlay OH. Anyone want to caravan?

Posted by: seanery Apr 29 2004, 09:30 AM

jeff, if that is the best (most direct) route, I'll travel up with ya!

Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 29 2004, 09:56 AM

I thought I posted in this thread. I told Barber Dave I would try to make his event so I plan on making it to the one as well. This one should be driving distance. aktion035.gif driving.gif

We need a girl headbanger emocon aktion035.gif

Posted by: Hawk Apr 29 2004, 06:29 PM

There will be an award category at the Midwest Classic of
BEST MODIFIED 914
So bring it on smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: BarberDave Apr 30 2004, 09:24 AM

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Jeff & Sean I am going to be there come hell or high water. We can talk later as where to hook up.
Again thanks to the SMOG guys for stepping up to the plate. Dave kimple Barber Dave smilie_flagge6.gif

Posted by: 914rick May 1 2004, 09:31 PM

Tom,
I'll be there. Will you be wearing your wife's robe? biggrin.gif
Rick

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 2 2004, 06:17 AM

If it will increase attendance, sure. Why not.


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Posted by: seanery May 2 2004, 07:14 AM

you know I just remembered I have plans that weekend. w00t.gif

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 2 2004, 10:23 AM

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Posted by: jellybellybug May 8 2004, 09:20 AM

If we can get hubbys car going in time we would love to go! Sounds like a blast and we would love to meet yall!! We are north aways but not too far... doubt it will be anywhere near worthy of any trophy but it still would be fun to go!

Hope to see yall there! cool.gif

Posted by: GWN7 May 8 2004, 09:25 AM

Welcome jellybellybug,

My son & I drove down last year and we had a blast. We came down in my truck, so even if your 914 isn't up to it, try and make the show. From the cars I saw last year it was well worth the time.

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 8 2004, 10:03 AM

Welcome jellybellybug!! wavey.gif
Hope you make it. I know it'll be worth the trip for you. Where are you located?

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 11 2004, 05:46 PM

On behalf of the Southeast Michigan 914 Owners Group, I'd like to give a big thanks to pray.gif Craig C. Laughlin and CAMP 914 for coming on board as a sponsor of the 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic.
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Thanks, Craig!! clap56.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S May 12 2004, 01:07 AM

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Posted by: jim912928 May 12 2004, 11:29 AM

Hopefully, if mine is done I'll also try to make it. Just got it back from the body shop last week (total strip and repaint). Now the interior...suspension (5-lug) etc....oh what a list!

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 17 2004, 07:44 PM

Hi Jim,
I just wanted to say don't not come just because your car isn't ready. Come anyway and meet the gang chatsmiley.gif drunk.gif beerchug.gif I'll bet that there will be some Chicagoland 914's coming that would'nt mind a support vehicle
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Posted by: seanery May 17 2004, 07:47 PM

I went last year in a non-914. I hope that I can make it in one this year. If not, look for a bright ass red hemi durango biggrin.gif

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 17 2004, 08:14 PM

Hemi?

sweeeeet

Posted by: Hawk May 27 2004, 07:14 AM

SMOG greatfully acknowledges the financial support of the upcoming 914 Midwest Classic on August 7 by Stoddard Imported Cars, Inc of Cleveland, OH.

Thank you Chuck Stoddard and Bob Accetta! smilie_pokal.gif

You are one class act and a first rate Porsche dealer.
See you at your own swap meet on June 12.


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 27 2004, 03:30 PM

The Southeast Michigan 914 Owners Group would like to welcome aboard pray.gif LN Engineering as an associate sponsor of the 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic.
Thanks Charles Navarro smilie_pokal.gif for your support of our event. clap56.gif


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 30 2004, 07:08 AM

The Southeast Michigan Owners Group would like to thank pray.gif Triad West Performance and pray.gif J.West Engineering for their support of the 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic.
smilie_pokal.gif Thanks Dave clap56.gif and James clap56.gif


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 9 2004, 03:51 AM

SMOG gratefully acknowledges pray.gif Raby's Aircooled Technology for their support of the 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic.
clap56.gif Thanks Jake!!! smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 10 2004, 03:58 AM

On behalf of the SMOG 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic organizers, I'd like to thank pray.gif Rich Bontempi and High Performance House for thier support of our event.
Thanks, Rich clap56.gif


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Posted by: Hawk Jun 10 2004, 11:08 AM

The Midwest 914 Classic is proud to recognize the sponsorship of Pelican Parts. Thanks Wayne and Eli.


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Posted by: Hawk Jun 10 2004, 11:14 AM

Mid America Motorworks is now a sponsor of the Midwest 914 Classic. Thanks Janice and the guys for your support. smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 10 2004, 03:59 PM

SMOG is pleased to add Smart Racing Products to the distinguished list of 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic sponsors.
pray.gif Thanks, Smart Racing Products smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: 914rick Jun 12 2004, 10:39 PM

Tom/Dick
You guys have done a GREAT job of setting up this event. The list of sponsors is very impressive. Just wanted to issue a public THANK YOU for your efforts. wink.gif I am looking forward to seeing everyone again.

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 13 2004, 12:00 AM

damm, how far is it from San Francsico?

if i go, i'd like to bring my car! wink.gif
Andy

Posted by: Pnambic Jun 13 2004, 03:46 PM

2368.4 Miles from San Francisco to Lake Whitmore, according to Microsoft Streets and Trips. So, at 90 mph, it'll take about 26 and a half hours...give or take. Think yer car could make it as a carry-on?biggrin.gif

Garold, are you planning on driving up that morning? I'll drive wingman. (hopefully in a 914 of my very own, but we'll see) driving.gif

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 13 2004, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 13 2004, 01:00 AM)
damm, how far is it from San Francsico?

if i go, i'd like to bring my car!  ;)
Andy

The ride from San Francisco to here is do-able in a 914 and I speak from personal experience on this. Did it in Nov.'02. The drive went better than I had expected. I brought along a huge bottle of motrin but never had to open it. I think 914's are, surprizingly, pretty comfortable cars for long hauls with the exception of the noise factor. driving.gif

Posted by: seanery Jun 14 2004, 07:19 AM

Andy's not new to the long distance 914 drive. He drove my 914 from SF to Hot Springs, AR last year. driving.gif

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jun 14 2004, 08:14 PM

Hey Guys,
I just found out you guys (Rich) in the Milwaukee area can come across Lake Michigan (75 miles wide) and cut your drive time down. It's a new ferry boat service btwn. Milwaukee & Muskegon Mi. The cost is about $118 for automobiles & will save a lots of drive time around Chicago. One more reason for you guys to attend.
Tom

Posted by: Dave-O Jun 14 2004, 09:20 PM

Previously we discussed taking the Badger across from Manitowoc WI (further north) but it has been a while. I'm still not sure if i'll be leaving from Minneapolis or from central WI, which would influence the decision of Milwaukee vs. Manitowoc. I'll go along with whatever is more convenient for the other drivers. It would certainly be fun to get a bunch of 914 owners together on the ride across. It's about the same driving distance from the twin cities to either Manitowoc or Milwaukee.

David

Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 15 2004, 12:50 AM

post the route from Mlps. to the event. Wife's up for the event if the car will go the distance. Verdict is still out on the car. Freeway driving is fine. In town is still an issue. The testing (over 600 miles since it hit the street) reveled a few minor problems. The Ferry sounds really Cool!

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Jun 15 2004, 08:55 AM

Dave, Rich & others.
Hope this comes through on the ferry boat to MI. newspaper article. I am so interested in seeing the Alien!!!!!!! I would gladly donate $$ for Rich to attend (with or without the Alien). We need Rich for a how to discussion.

I also been thinking, how about an invite to George H?? What a team Rich & George!!! Don't anyone flame me for these thoughts. Two guys with different views on our beloved 914's. What a show highlight that would be!!!!!
Just my 2-cents worth.
Tom


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Posted by: itsa914 Jun 15 2004, 09:14 AM

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Garold, are you planning on driving up that morning? I'll drive wingman. (hopefully in a 914 of my very own, but we'll see)


Not sure yet. We will just be getting back from spending a week with the Wife's family at a cottage somewhere in the woods of Michigan. There is going to 15 of us stuffed in this "cottage", lord help me wacko.gif

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 15 2004, 09:44 AM

QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Jun 15 2004, 09:55 AM)
I also been thinking, how about an invite to George H??

The announcement about the event on the AA forum was deleted by their administration spank.gif

Posted by: aircooledboy Jun 15 2004, 12:33 PM

I'm ihin, I'm inhin, Im in I'm in I'm inhin!!! aktion035.gif aktion035.gif aktion035.gif

Garold, if yer goin, I'm comming right thru your 'hood if you want to caravan. Going Friday. happy11.gif

Posted by: Dave-O Jun 15 2004, 07:49 PM

Lets see here,

From Minneapolis to Manitowoc: Take 94 out of the cities, take 29 through Chippewa Falls and Wausau. Take 41 from Appleton to Manitowoc. Total driving distance: 320 miles. Mostly 4 lane hwy with about 50 or so miles on two lane hwy. Minimal in-city driving.

From Minneapolis to Milwaukee: Take 94 the entire way. All 4 lany hwy. Total driving distance: 336 miles.

Taking the badger out of Manitowoc costs $49 per vehicle each way and $47 per passenger or $78 round trip. This ferry lands in Ludington MI. It leaves Manitowoc at 1:15 PM and 12:30 AM (ouch).

I would personaly prefer taking the Manitowoc ferry but if anybody wants to meet in Milwaukee i certianly wouln't mind taking that ferry either.

Let me know what you guys think,

David

Posted by: GWN7 Jun 15 2004, 09:09 PM

If you go thru Chippewa Falls stop downtown at the icecream shop...they make great sundays. Also they have working water fountains on the streets. Very nice town. The Mason shoe factory outlet is downtown too. ( don't stop if you really don't need shoes) Cray computers factory is there too.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 15 2004, 11:00 PM

Duluth to Whitmore Lake 717 miles. 11 hrs 31 mins. My Maping software shows the quickest route is south on hwy 53 to Eau Claire WI. south on I 94 to I 90 to Chicago. Around the tip of Lake Michigan then I 94 to Ann Arbor area to hwy 23 on in to Whitmore Lake area.

shortest is (as in not quickest is) hwy 2 through WI. (2 lane) to Hurley, highway 51 to Woodruff then to hwy 8. At wittenberg take 29 to Manitowac. Jump the ferry across Lake Michigan. Take 10 to I 35 south to I 96 to hwy 23. 582 miles 11 hrs.40 mins. sad.gif shorter but longer...

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 16 2004, 03:59 AM

Only longer by 9 minutes. Plus the ferry ride would be a great break in the driving to sit back and enjoy the boat ride. Plus you avoid the whole Chicago cluster&#@%. In my entire life I've never been able to drive through Chicago without getting caught in construction traffic jams.

Posted by: Dave-O Jun 16 2004, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(GWN7 @ Jun 15 2004, 07:09 PM)
If you go thru Chippewa Falls stop downtown at the icecream shop...they make great sundays. Also they have working water fountains on the streets. Very nice town. The Mason shoe factory outlet is downtown too. ( don't stop if you really don't need shoes) Cray factory is there too.

And lets not forget the Leinenkugel's Brewery beer.gif ! They give great tours beer3.gif

David

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 21 2004, 06:57 PM

On behalf of the S.M.O.G. I'd like to welcome pray.gif Mueller Design Werks to the very distinguished list of 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic sponsors.
Thanks, clap56.gif Mike smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: Hawk Jun 23 2004, 08:55 AM

The Southeast Michigan 914 Owners Group welcomes Auto Atlanta to the very distinguished list of 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic associate sponsors. clap56.gif pray.gif


Thanks, George and Greg smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: Jeroen Jun 23 2004, 09:01 PM

Darn dude... you're doing great on the sponsors!
We need you on the WCC team next year biggrin.gif

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Hawk Jun 24 2004, 07:15 AM

I'm Sicilian and its not a good idea to say no to me. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 24 2004, 12:28 PM

QUOTE(Hawk @ Jun 24 2004, 08:15 AM)
I'm Sicilian and its not a good idea to say no to me. biggrin.gif

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Posted by: Jeroen Jun 24 2004, 09:12 PM

QUOTE(Hawk @ Jun 24 2004, 02:15 PM)
I'm Sicilian and its not a good idea to say no to me. biggrin.gif

That must be it...
In my case, they prolly thought "who's this wanker from the Netherlands" and deleted my e-mails wacko.gif
J/K...

Keep up the good work!

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jun 24 2004, 10:30 PM

Tom,

Can I attend this event ?


B

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 25 2004, 04:02 AM

QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 24 2004, 11:30 PM)
Tom,

Can I attend this event ?


B

Brad, This event is just for folks with a love of 914's. But I suppose we could make an exception.

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 25 2004, 04:08 AM

If anyone was unsure about whether or not they should attend this event, listen to this: Now, thanks to the generosity of GWN7, included in each goodie bag, along with everything else, will be a "mini bar" of 914 soap smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Jeroen Jun 25 2004, 09:18 AM

Tom,

Didn't you guys put up a website for the MWC?
Where is it?????

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jun 25 2004, 09:23 AM

No website, just this stuff here. We're website challenged sad.gif

Any assistance you could provide in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Qarl Jun 28 2004, 09:42 AM

Can I come?

Seriously. I am trying to plan a trip up there about that time.

Posted by: seanery Jun 28 2004, 09:48 AM

that'd be cool if you came!

Posted by: Qarl Jun 28 2004, 12:06 PM

I will know for sure in a few days.

I am going to coordinate it with a trip to Minnesota to visit David Chapman (Iamchappy) and to Traverse City to see my Dad!

But I would say count me in. How do I register?

Posted by: seanery Jun 28 2004, 12:08 PM

there's a paypal link at the "Look who's coming" thread.

Posted by: Gint Jul 8 2004, 06:16 PM

My wife just informed me that her work responsibilities (lots of travel during August/Sept/Oct) will impact our standard Sept/Oct vacation (sans kiddies). As in, "not this year". "Would you be upset?" she asked. "Why, hell yes!" wink.gif

But that means that week of vacation I've been saving doesn't need to be saved anymore.

I *may* be able to make the event! Which would make up for missing WCC. You guys put on a great show up there. I have a few questions.

Is there an official events listing? Days etc?

How far is the event from Detroit (airport and stuff)?

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jul 8 2004, 08:37 PM

QUOTE(Gint @ Jul 8 2004, 07:16 PM)
How far is the event from Detroit (airport and stuff)?

It's damn close. Mike, That would be great if you could make it. Only a single day event, but as 914rick said in the other thread, several folks will be arriving friday and heading out sometime sunday. This is our (S.M.O.G.) first time planning the event and it was kind of on short notice due to Barber Dave bowing out from hosting the event as he had done the last 2 years down in Maumee, OH. If the event turns out to be a success, as we're sure it will, we are looking to make it a 2 or 3 day event next year.


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Posted by: Gint Jul 10 2004, 08:34 PM

Thanks for the info guys. See ya Friday evening.

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jul 15 2004, 03:58 AM

On behalf of the 914 Southeast Michigan Owners Group I'd like to thank pray.gif GPR German Parts and Restoration for their sponsorship of the 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic. smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Jul 16 2004, 05:03 PM

SMOG would like to welcome pray.gif P.A.P. Parts to the very distinguished list of 2004 Mid-West 914 Classic sponsors.
Thanks, Steve!!! clap56.gif clap56.gif


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Posted by: aircooledboy Jul 23 2004, 07:58 PM

Man Curvie, you are just HUGE w00t.gif smilie_pokal.gif beerchug.gif

What an amazing job you guys are doing with this thing. At this rate, the WCC'ers are gonna be wishing their gig was as cool as the MWC happy11.gif

Posted by: akellym Aug 2 2004, 08:27 PM

I will be attending. This will be the first major trip with it.


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Posted by: BS Chairman Aug 2 2004, 08:56 PM

WOW!!!!!!! LOOK OUT MICHIGAN! smilie_pokal.gif mueba.gif mueba.gif
BS Chairman

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Aug 3 2004, 03:59 AM

Beautiful car. smilie_pokal.gif clap56.gif

Posted by: mr914 Aug 3 2004, 04:30 PM

Sorry Guys, I can't make it.

Good news bad news thing. Doing a contract job in mueba.gif Aricebo Puerto Rico mueba.gif which origanaly was to have me back on the 6th. Now they have some "new" projects that could keep me here for a month or more. unsure.gif

Was looking forward to bringing #269 in all of it's naked/rusted glory on the rotiserie and entering it for "best paint" (aka bare metal) award smilie_pokal.gif

Enjoy, wish I was there? or is it mueba.gif Wish you were here..... mueba.gif

FYI I am looking for the elusive 914-6 in Puerto Rico while I am here

Cheers,

Posted by: Hawk Aug 3 2004, 07:08 PM

Sorry to hear we wont be able to lift a few with you buddy. We'll miss you.
Pay a visit to the Condado for me and waste a few $$$ on the craps tables.
Can you believe that's where the missus and I honeymooned?
Must be hot as h*ll there as I remember it, but maybe that was a special situation. idea.gif

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