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Posted by: seanery Sep 14 2003, 03:20 PM

MDB2.gif I did a little recon this morning and came up with a 56 mile drive. It's a bit longer than I originally anticipated, but, WOW! It has much to offer - VERY technical, rolling hills, twisty curvy, off-camber blinds & beautiful scenery abounds!

Here is my plan, which is slightly different than posted before.

Columbus, Indiana
Northwest corner of I-65 Exit 68 (Indiana 46)
There is an vacant restaurant 200 yards from the freeway between a Swifty Gas and a Denny's.

56 mile loop
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We'll do a quick lap around town and enter Brown County State Park from the WEST entrance.
I'll contact the park for a location Monday (look for info added here)

THERE IS A FEE TO GET INTO THE PARK, but I can't remember what it is.

We should arrive between 2:00 pm and 2:30pm.
BS and show & shine & picnic till folks want to leave
Picnic will be low key. I will provide lunch meats and buns with potato & macaroni salads and maybe some cole slaw.

If anyone is coming through Indy and wants to caravan to the Columbus starting spot contact me.
It takes 35 minutes to get there from my house. If anyone wants to spend the night Friday Oct 17th at my house I can make arangements to accomodate some. The guest room is spoken for, but I have a large L shaped couch in the basement that can sleep 2 more.

Please post a note if you plan to attend, spend the night & if you are bringing anyone.

I hope to see you all there!

Posted by: seanery Sep 14 2003, 03:23 PM

Here is a VERY LARGE version of the map.
I will hand these out along with turn-by-turn directions at the starting point.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 14 2003, 05:22 PM

been looking at the logistics and i just don't think we can make it this year ...
which is a pity, 'cause we have some family south of there it'd have been convenient to visit, but i think it will have to wait for spring and the trip back home from Daytona ...

but THANK YOU for the planning and the map - we'll be over there one fine autumn or another.
if this turns into an annual event, please let us know - just since we both have new jobs arranging for time off is iffy, and i think it'd be 2 days there, 2 daysback under the best of circumstances - and we just can't take a week off right now...

this is the part of working for someone else i really don't like - but oh well...

Posted by: Doug Leggins Sep 14 2003, 08:05 PM

Count me in!

I like the route! I'm not too familiar with the route from 46 to Freetown, but I've traveled the route from Freetown to Nashville a few times - WOW. This will be a fantastic drive.

Too bad we couldn't meet while you were here in Nashville. I spent the day on the east side of Indy.

Let me know if I can do anything to assist with event set up.

Posted by: itsa914 Sep 14 2003, 08:07 PM

Cool!!!!!! driving.gif

Admins can we get this topic nailed??


Posted by: seanery Sep 14 2003, 08:12 PM


sorry I didn't give you a heads up, but I got up, watched the F1 race. It ended early and I said "Go do the Nashville thing NOW!" So I jumped in my truck and started driving. I ended up going down 65 and I thought about meeting outside of town and cruising in. That way we are no where near the Hilly Hundred folks. I'm really pleased with the route, although it's a tad bit long, but worth it.

The first road we turn onto is called Four Mile Ridge Road. HAHA!! First 8 miles are the toughest! boldblue.gif

Posted by: indydad Sep 15 2003, 05:30 AM

Damm, even if I got the MIG working overtime I still couldn't make it this time, but sounds like a great event. Hpoefully it will be a yearly thing.......Tour de Hoosier. I sure will be happy to help next season.
Jerry King
72 1.7 (under construction)

Posted by: seanery Sep 15 2003, 07:56 AM

you don't have to do it in a teener. You can drive your other car if you like.

Posted by: kafermeister Sep 15 2003, 09:29 AM

QUOTE(seanery @ Sep 15 2003, 09:56 AM)
you don't have to do it in a teener. You can drive your other car if you like.

Indeed. Jerry, I will probably be in an F150 Supercrew myself. The closest thing to a 914 that I will have with me is pictures of a rusty shell. I will probably just meet folks at the picnic site.

Posted by: indydad Sep 15 2003, 11:32 AM

Teeners ARE the best! I suppose my '01 Jetta 1.7T Wolfsberg has some connection.........I know it's a stretch. I will certainly be there barring any disaster.

Posted by: BarberDave Sep 15 2003, 06:49 PM


Sean: Iwill be there, I,;
llll try to bring people with me . I will probbly hook up with Tom M. ( Curvie). E-mail me Tom! Trying to get at least 1 from Columbus on a Maiden Voyage in a Knockout
914 . This will be the hit of the meet. He does have a few things to finish yet. But I am saying " You haven't seen nothing yet" Dave smile.gif

Posted by: seanery Sep 15 2003, 08:57 PM

Are you talking about Steve Thacker's car?

He posted pics of it recently.

Posted by: BarberDave Sep 16 2003, 02:44 AM

Yeh: That,s the car. Sharp, IMO doesn't do it justice.
He has some things to finish up , I really hope he can make it. BTW I have some small isues to address, so back to work. smilie_flagge6.gif Dave K.

Posted by: Engman Sep 16 2003, 05:20 PM

What time zone? As many others perhaps do or do not know, Indiana has the most f#$%ed up time zones of anywhere. The southern part of the state is eastern time zone with daylight savings time. But Indy and other areas (most of the state) do not folloe daylight savings time. Hence, they are currently on CST until the time change. You never have to change your clock in most parts of Indiana.

I just want to be sure of when - had problems elsewhere before.


Posted by: seanery Sep 16 2003, 09:37 PM

I forgot to put that one in.

Indiana is in Eastern STANDARD Time which is the same as Central Time until the time changes again (which is shortly after this event).
So we are NYC -1hour, Chicago-same, LA +2hours. Got it?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Sep 17 2003, 12:01 AM

Should I change the first line to read "Nashville" ??


Posted by: seanery Sep 17 2003, 07:05 AM

sure-go for it!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Sep 17 2003, 11:28 AM

Nah... then people would think we are *smart*


Posted by: seanery Sep 17 2003, 02:19 PM

Shirts will be available for those that attend (cheap).
Here's the front:

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Posted by: robby750 Sep 17 2003, 07:39 PM

I am coming just for the shirt.

Posted by: Engman Sep 17 2003, 09:49 PM

I plan on attending. Count me in.


Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Sep 20 2003, 09:08 PM

I've been out of town for a week. Just getting caught back up on the board. I'll definately be there. Barber Dave, let's hook up for the ride down. I'll see if I can generate any interest in any of the other "SMOGies" Looks like a great route Sean! To me 50 miles seems about the right length for a cruise.

Posted by: Speedster07 Sep 21 2003, 01:47 AM

Hey Gang, I’m a newbie here. I also live in Indy clap56.gif If I find a 914 in time I will be there for the Hoosier Rally. (We are in CHT time zone:thats Central Hoosier Time for most of the state). I've been looking diligently for a nice 2.0, u got any leads I'm all ears. Also if anyone wants to get together for F1 let me know. I didn't know that there were many 914ers out here. If anyone lives in the Indy area I'd like to check out your cars. cool.gif Thanks Craig

Posted by: Brad Roberts Sep 21 2003, 05:20 AM

Welcome Craig beerchug.gif Glad you could make it to the BBS. I'm sure we can locate you a decent car.


Posted by: seanery Sep 21 2003, 07:15 AM


we'd love to have you to the event, even if you're not driving a teener.

Welcome to the board! Brad is right, we'll get you a car. I know of a guy in Anderson that has two factory -6's that he is probably gonna sell. I haven't seen them, but they are probably decent to nice cars.

The best place to buy, however, is the west coast.

Posted by: seanery Sep 24 2003, 12:54 PM

back of shirt

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Posted by: Doug Leggins Sep 24 2003, 01:12 PM

The artwork looks good!

Great color!

Posted by: BarberDave Sep 25 2003, 05:59 AM


Sean: Are you going to have some of those shirts made for the Fall run? If so I'm in for 1. Dave smilie_flagge6.gif

Posted by: itsa914 Sep 26 2003, 08:59 PM

Hey Sean, the fun run made it in to my local PCA newsletter. Already received a email about it.


Posted by: seanery Sep 26 2003, 09:17 PM


Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Sep 27 2003, 07:41 AM

Man, the shirt art work ROCKS! smilie_pokal.gif can't wait!

Posted by: seanery Sep 29 2003, 02:15 PM

I forgot this earlier, but this route is not NEXTEL friendly, we are off the beaten path here. If you have another brand bring it.
They work in Colubus, but after we get off onto Four Mile Ridge Road kiss them goodbye!

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 29 2003, 02:19 PM

QUOTE(seanery @ Sep 29 2003, 12:15 PM)
I forgot this earlier, but this route is not NEXTEL friendly

this might be a good place to suggest that people bring GPRS / FRS 2-way radios ...

Posted by: seanery Sep 29 2003, 02:24 PM

yes, I always recomend the family channel radios.
short range but could help in a pinch!! ( or for a potty break! LOL)

Posted by: seanery Sep 30 2003, 05:25 PM

revised artwork. Shirts are ordered.

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Posted by: Doug Leggins Sep 30 2003, 08:31 PM

Nice touch adding the club logo.

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Oct 1 2003, 01:56 PM

Very nice agree.gif

Posted by: ArtechnikA Oct 1 2003, 02:25 PM

someone mentioned a while back that the event had received notice in a PCA Region newsletter. is the tour being conducted as a PCA-sanctioned (and insured) tour ? is there any sanctioning body providing liability coverage, conducting pre-event technical and safety inspections, verifying that valid driver's licenses and proof-of-insurance documents are in the possession of the participants ?

i know these are unpopular questions, but you go sticking the '914Club' logo on stuff (i agree completely, it looks great!) and you start exposing a lot of people to a lot of potential liability in the event of an incident - especially when 'spirited' driving is involved (and what else would be the point ... :-) )

we had saw the case earlier where a west-coast 'tour' involved some elevated speeds and the destruction of a participant's vehicle. if a passerby had been involved in that incident, especially if there was the appearance of an organised event, innocent passerby's attorneys, heirs, and assigns would be having a field day looking for someone(s) to sue.

if you don't have something like a PCA region's event liability binder in place (probably too late to get that now, couldn't hurt to check...) it should be made VERY CLEAR to the particpants that this is NOT an organized activity, it is a group of individuals travelling the same path together and that no one shall look farther than one's own individual insurance coverage in the event of any incident.

that might not be enough to ward off actions by an injured non-participant, and i think it'd still be a good idea for a "show and tell" of driver's license and insurance coverage before engine start. having some way to check for construction activity on the day in question would be good too...

so that's my advice, which you are now welcome to ignore ...
y'all have fun, and BE CAREFUL.

Posted by: Engman Oct 7 2003, 08:22 PM

If anyone coming to this has some engine sheetmetal for a 2.0 please let me know. I am looking for the passenger side cylinder cover and the front piece that goes in front of the fan. My engine sheetmetal was cut out for AC in these areas.


PS - My God - I think the wife wants to GO. This means LESS seat time for me!!!!!


Posted by: Doug Leggins Oct 8 2003, 11:16 AM

I should have the engine tin. I'll check and let you know.

If anyone needs other parts, let me know. I have parts from several cars and the parts are located only a couple of miles from the park.


Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 9 2003, 12:03 PM

I will leave here on Tues. with a planned arrival time of Thursday evening.

If anyone in Indianapolis wants to get together for a lunch or dinner on Friday.. I'm up for it.

Also... Sean.. if you want to do a improptu tech session in someones garage... sign me up.

Let me know what you think. I will also show up early enough to go over anything you may have found on your car that needs addressing (other than the shift bushings and tranny mounts).


Posted by: kafermeister Oct 9 2003, 12:38 PM

I will be in Bargersville on Friday night. Brad, I can bring a trailer with me and we can free up yours on Friday night if you want.


Posted by: seanery Oct 9 2003, 12:40 PM

watcha doin in bargersville?

Posted by: kafermeister Oct 9 2003, 12:46 PM

Spending Friday night with relatives. Relatives have volunteered to watch the kids while the wife and I make it to the picnic on Saturday.

Posted by: seanery Oct 9 2003, 12:50 PM

I grew up in Greenwood, have lots of friends in Bargersville.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 9 2003, 12:51 PM

Lets do dinner Friday night. Sean can pic the location. Someplace decent that doesnt cost an arm and a leg (Chili's)

If we flip the cars from trailer to trailer Friday night.. does that mean you have to pull the trailer on the run on Sat. ?? or can you leave it at the relatives house ??

I need a 914 ride/drive for the event.


Posted by: kafermeister Oct 9 2003, 12:56 PM

Brad, I haven't figured out what's going to happen with the trailer on Saturday if we flip Friday night. I know the relatives won't want it sitting in front of their house even for a day and off-street parking is minimal. I'll probably drag it with me all day if I can't work something out with them.

Seanery, specifically, they have told me that they actually live in Greenwood. It comes up as Bargersville on the caller ID.

Posted by: seanery Oct 9 2003, 01:01 PM

Center Grove schools?
I've been thinking about moving back down there.

Posted by: kafermeister Oct 9 2003, 02:20 PM

Not sure. They just moved a few months ago from Lafayette (sp?).

Posted by: Pnambic Oct 9 2003, 02:39 PM

Count me in for the dinner. I'll even buy Brad an iced tea if he can help me pick out a decent flywheel from Doug. laugh.gif

And any info I can pick up from any tech sessions I can get to would be great!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 9 2003, 02:40 PM

Cool. Dinner it is.


Posted by: Pnambic Oct 9 2003, 02:44 PM

You mentioned Chilis....not Hooters? laugh.gif

Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 9 2003, 02:47 PM

We could do Hooters. Right now I'm burnt out on the chicken sandwhich. On the way thru Texas we stopped at Hooters. On the way back thru Texas we stopped at 2 different Hooters..and we had just done the SF Hooters event. I havent spent much time in Indy recently.. but I'm questioning the "quality" of employees a Indy Hooters might have... laugh.gif


Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Oct 9 2003, 02:54 PM

You're welcome to either pilot or co-pilot seat in my car for the event. w00t.gif MDB2.gif

Posted by: itsa914 Oct 9 2003, 02:56 PM


The wife and I still plan to come down Friday late afternoon/ evening. Would you guys
be open for two more, not sure if we would be there for dinner, but maybe a have a
soda or two. Still ok for us to crash at your place???

Posted by: Doug Leggins Oct 9 2003, 04:39 PM

I've got a garage that can be used for a tech session. I'm in Nashville only about 2 miles from the state park. Plenty of parking in the drive and in a field/yard provided it stays dry. No lift in the garage, but it does have a pit. - kinda scary sometimes looking at the bottom of some of these cars.

Also, some pretty neat Chevy's to look at in the garage. My Father-in-law has a garage adjacent to my property. He used to run the local Chevrolet dealership. over the years he kept a few vettes and camaros - mostly indy pace car replicas. Actually some pretty cool stuff in the garage. My favorites are a 57 fuelie (not orig fuelie but looks beautiful) and a 5 mi 78 pace car.

Sean - Let's talk about a tech session. Has the installation of Mueller's roller bearings been done yet? If we do a tech session we can use someone else's car, or I will gladly offer my 73 restoration project up for a tech session. It is still a shell on a rotisserie and boxes and boxes of parts in the gargae, house, basement and 2nd garage. But, we should be able to find something that is ready to work on.

Dinner - I should be able to make it. Anyplace on the southside that will work?

Posted by: seanery Oct 9 2003, 07:16 PM

Yes, it's still ok for you to crash here. Brad will have to sleep on the couch. What time do you plan on coming in on Friday?

Let's think of a place in Greenwood. Tech session, I dunno, what did you have in mind? I don't think anyone around here has Meuller's bearings. confused24.gif

Sorry your on the couch, it's big though.

Is Greenwood ok with you?

Anyone else?
Craig? IndyDad?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 10 2003, 12:19 AM

Oh.. man.. I'll find out where my sisters new house is...LOL

I like the tech session idea in the garage near the drive.

Bring all the questions/parts/cars you want me to look at.


Posted by: Pnambic Oct 10 2003, 06:22 AM

Greenwood works for me. What time are we planning for dinner?

I'm not too familiar with whats in Greenwood, but I'm sure there's plenty to choose from. Maybe BW3?

Posted by: seanery Oct 10 2003, 07:25 AM

BW3 sounds good to me. Anyone else care to comment?

Posted by: kafermeister Oct 10 2003, 09:12 AM

I would chime in on food but I am not yet sure how my Friday is going to shape up. Seems family has already made plans for Friday believing I was going to be available. Is the tech session to be on Friday or Saturday?


Posted by: Brad Roberts Oct 10 2003, 11:46 AM

Saturday after the run is fine with me.

Take charge Sean. I'm just riding along on this one.


Posted by: seanery Oct 10 2003, 12:28 PM


what do you think about a caravan to your shop around 4 or 4:30?

Posted by: Doug Leggins Oct 10 2003, 11:13 PM

Timing is good.

What about a tech session topic?

Posted by: kafermeister Oct 11 2003, 12:26 AM

...rust repair? laugh.gif

Posted by: itsa914 Oct 11 2003, 09:13 PM

Yes, it's still ok for you to crash here. Brad will have to sleep on the couch. What time do you plan on coming in on Friday?


Looks like we will be leaving here around 4:30pm so it should put us in Indy by 7:00pm at the latest. Don't
wait on us for dinner. I will PM you with my mobile number, call us if we are not in Indy when you leave
for dinner.

- Garold

Posted by: Steve Thacker Oct 13 2003, 11:54 AM

Just a stupid question. I just got wind of this "been in Cancun on vacation". Is this just a run only and not a swap? I missed the last swap meet in indy and I'm sick! I need some parts to finish my car!


Posted by: seanery Oct 13 2003, 12:13 PM

Fun Run only.
If you've got stuff or need stuff post it and maybe those attending can bring it/them/those if they have them. confused24.gif

Posted by: seanery Oct 14 2003, 11:44 AM

Weather forecast for Saturday is Mostly Sunny high of 63. Should be great driving weather!! MDB2.gif

Posted by: itsa914 Oct 14 2003, 11:50 AM

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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Oct 16 2003, 05:14 PM

Looks like the weather will be cooperating! smile.gif

Posted by: seanery Oct 16 2003, 06:44 PM

sehr gut!

Posted by: seanery Oct 16 2003, 10:14 PM

If you ordered a hat, they will be available at the run.


Posted by: kafermeister Oct 17 2003, 02:43 PM

I'm leaving for Indy here in a few minutes. See everybody on Saturday. Seanery, I've got your cell number, hope you don't mind if I call if I get lost.

Brad's got my cell but I'll post it here in case anyone needs to reach me.

eight five nine three eight zero seven one four three.

Rick Harris

Posted by: cnavarro Oct 17 2003, 04:11 PM

I know this is last minute, but i'll be making the trek from momence, il to columbus, in tomorrow morning (3.5hrs). I'll bring some goodies with me too :-) See everyone there!

Charles Navarro
LN Engineering
Aircooled Precision Performance

Posted by: seanery Oct 19 2003, 07:48 AM

Thanks to all who came and made this a successful event!

We will do this again next fall and possibly in the spring as well.

Posted by: vsg914 Oct 19 2003, 07:49 AM

Glad you guys had a good time. How was the turn out?

Posted by: ArtechnikA Oct 19 2003, 07:53 AM

QUOTE(seanery @ Oct 19 2003, 05:48 AM)
Thanks to all who came and made this a successful event!
We will do this again next fall and possibly in the spring as well.

thanks for organising! sorry logistics didn't permit our attendance, but 2 new jobs == no vacation time :-(
worked out for the best 'cause i still don't have the 911's ignition back together - it's gonna be a long day...

we'll put it on the calendar for next year - i've always loved that part of the country and would like to get back to see it again.

Posted by: seanery Oct 19 2003, 08:05 AM

we got lucky and missed the traffic. we changed the tail end of the route (Curvie thought we needed another shirt with the NEW map on it!) to avoid the throngs of traffic in the town and entered the park through the equestrian entrance (which isn't allowed, but she musta liked the little square cars).

We bs'd for a while and took some pics and then went to Doug Leggins house. He's got a sweet spread with a couple garages and some really sweet rides in there like:
57 Vette Fuelie
54 Vette
86 Vette pace car 8 miles, never titled
95 Vette pace car
98 Vette pace car
78 Vette pace car
28 Chevy cabriolet
69 Camaro pace car
67 RS/SS Camaro
82 Camaro pace car 7 miles, never titled
92? Camaro pace car 5 miles(?) never titled

Also got some shots checking out his nice tub on a rotisserie and checked out his assortment of used parts. He accumulated a lot in a short time!

then the remaining group of 5 went to feast at the 5 star restaurant known as......

get this....

oh, it was just Denny's HAHA!

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