I would volenteer to get prices, order, and deliver the trophies.
Everyone make suggestions for classes.
Popular voting always seems to work good. Everyone gets a ballot in there prepaid entry. We set up a drop box and everyone votes for what they like.
On the pre-paid entry subject. We could class the cars when we receive the entry form. I'm sure we don't need more that 4 or 5 classes.
Yarooon, Are you suggesting we get trophies like the one you posted? I saw the picture but I didn't see why you posted it.
If i'm on someones toes just tell me you have it covered.
EDIT:
I just went and read Ya roons post on the trophies. How many do you think we'll need? I have a friend that works in a custom cabinet shop. I know I can get him to do some one off wood bases. I've done some sand blasting stencil work on glass. I think I could enlist my build crew to make a nice custom trophy.
Plaques and stuff shouldn't bee too hard.
If i'm on someones toes just tell me you have it covered.
Jeff dropped me a PM and asked me to move on the tropies. I need some help with classes.
Best Stock 4
Best Stock 6
Best V8 conversion (maybe we can get the V8 factory car eh?
Best paint
best Interior
Long Distance Award
Long distance Overseas.
Long distance America.
Long distance 914 (on a trailer)
Long distance driving a 914.
Best Custom (body and interior mods, Kit bodies, to be defined)
Best race car
All peoples choice awards. I need help classing cars. all suggestions welcome.
Becareful how may classes we have for a peoples choice voting. If there are too many people tend not to vote.
Some of these can be presented at the farewell BBQ by us.
On the Long Distance awards .....
Maybe different classifications like.....
Long distance Overseas.
Long distance America.
Long distance 914 (on a trailer)
Long distance driving a 914.
Will we also want to do trophies for different classes in the Auto-X ?
Are the trophys just going to be for the winner in the different classes or will there be 1st, 2nd and 3rd place awards?
Don't forget about the V8 cars. I'm sure we'll see a few there.
Concours:
- Best original /4
- Best original /6
- Best modified /4
- Best modified /6 (conversion)
- Best V8 conversion
- Best other conversion???
- Best racecar (4's and 6's seperate or together?)
- People's choice (overall)
Hottest 914 babe!
Long distance awards as suggested above
AX classes (how many classes will there be?)
First, second and third in class???
Asshole award
cheers,
Jeroen
With AX classes you could do:
Stock: 1,2,3
Improved 1,2,3
Race 1,2,3
Most improved time
Cone King
We could also distiguish between 4s and 6s but it really depends on who's coming out.
FYI: I wanted to tell you guys about how things run around here. My 16 yr old son Aric has two friends that kind of live here. They were over last night and we had a planning meeting about 12:30 am. I spoke with one of the friends mom yesterday about him getting out of school early for the event. She ok with it as long as his grades are on track and the school will go along with it. They are committed to keeping the grades inline and doing everything I ask to make this happen.
The only way this is going to work is if I drive out by myself and fly the crew (which consists of my 16 yr old son, his two 17 yr old friends, my 14 yr old son, and my wife) out one way later. I will need to pick them up at the airport on Thursday night. My wife actually seems ok with the whole idea too. So keep your fingers crossed for me and the boys.
The trophy build may become school credit. All the boys go to a forward thinking Charter School.
In any event they are ready to work!
If we can help pick folks up the airport, or find a decent hotel, let me know.
With the trophies, when can they start? How many would be a reasonable amount to pass out? How can we incorporate newer folks to AXing?
Thanks, We're having a meeting this weekend. I'll know more next week.
Rich,
Since it sounds like you will be building the thropies...
What you wanna do?
Do you have a possibility to engrave the acrylic?
Nicest / easiest would be if we can have the acrylic engraved by someone who has a computer controlled "engraver"
I can make the logo's and text for the trophies and just e-mail the files
Another option that I know will look good (did it before) is to have the logo / text cut in vinyl stickers as a mirror image and stick these on the back of the acrylic
Silver vynil or matte clear vynil (looks like it's etched) will look very good.
Again, it's fairly easy / cheap to have these stickers cut
cheers,
Jeroen
(blurting out more stoopid ideas)
If you go for the sandblasting route, you could use a vinyl sticker as a stencil
I can design these and e-mail you the files
Take the files to a vinylcutter / shop and they can cut you the stickers/stencils
Lemme know if you wanna try it and I'll mail you...
cheers,
Jeroen
Yes, I want you to do the design work. You decide what font type and graphics you want. I will post an organized list of classes this weekend. We can decide on the size of the Acrylic together.
Do you think we should use the event logo on the base? When we have all the info and design work done send me what you have to my personal email with instructions..
cyfied@uslink.net
Hey Rich,
I was thinking to put the event logo and class notification all on the acrylic
I'll try to post some scetches when I get home...
cheers,
Jeroen
Thanks Rich and Jeroen for working through these issues and coming up with a great awards program. And for offering to build them. I hope it wont detract too much from Project Alien Rich, to do all this. Please let me know what expenses you will have (even an estimate) for the awards and art work so that you are reimbursed.
I would propose to keep the categories more minimal than too many. Everyone will get something to take home with them, but if we only have 50 914s we cant have 75 awards... I think we all agree that most awards should be determined by popular vote so we will also need voting cards in the goodie bags.
I propose something like:
* Best 914/4
* Best 914/6
* Best 914/8
* Trickest 914 modification (non-racecar)
* Best 914 Racecar
* 914 Tech Quiz winner
* People's Choice Overall Best of WCC 2004
* AX classes TTOD, Best Improved Time, and Cone King
Thats 10 trophies, about one for every 3-4 attendees.
I think I would...scrap the long distance awards, at least as trophies...we all know who will take those...and it adds several trophies to make. Maybe as certificates?
Also I think all the awards should indicate the WCC 2004 Event Name, logo and the 914Club and be of excellent quality. These will be keepsakes.
Let me know what you guys decide and how things go. It looks great so far. If you need my help just ask. My cell number is on the event staff page, by my name.
This is pretty much what I had in mind...
cheers,
Jeroen
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I like it.
Very Nice.
I'm gonna need a new responsibility!
Thats Righteous J. What do you think Rich?
I like it in a huge way and they should be simple enough to fab. as depicted. Maybe a tinted acrylic?
About the logo...it looks like the intent for the little number '1' is to be a car number, so each attendee would have a different number. I support that and each paid attendee will be assigned a unique consecutive numebr for their individual Rallye Shield. But to me the little number '1' looks too...little. Shouldnt it be be visible from a distance? I would say maybe 3-4 time as large? Regardless, I think the car number should be prominent and large as a way to ID a car on a road course, and the car number should not appear on the art used for the trophies or flyers...I am sure you concur...
Also thinking about the Rallye Shields more...if they were a thin/stiff plastic, mounting has been the concern. If we go this route, and if the rallye shields were not so large that a drivers vision were blocked (maybe ~4x6 inches?), they could be easily mounted inside the windshield glass with double stick tape. What do you all think?
I had previously proposed a smallish metal enamelled participation plaque, zip-tied to the foglight grilles or engine grille. I still like the idea of that, if its of high quality as it would be special and become 914 memorabilia. So would the Rallye Shield. Each year for future events, we could develop a unique plaque.
You guys decide, but lets only do one or the other, and agree to make them of high quality. The registration fees will cover the cost.
You guys are awesome...
Hey Jeff,
The "1" stands for the first event of a (hopefully) long series
cheers,
Jeroen
Jeff,
I believe that is "West Coast Classic #1" just without the # sign. As in the innaugural event.
I followed up on part of Jeff's post in the "logo suggestion" thread
cheers,
Jeroen
Ah...so we wont have individually numbered Rallye Shields?
Would an authetic RS have a car number?
I do like the '1' idea of denoteds the first event, but what happens when a year is skipped? I think just the year indicated as you have it may be good enough?
Yes, the shields would be individually numbered
Have another look at the designs posted earlier... they LOOK similar, but there are some subtle differences
The event# would be specially practical if a year was skipped (i.e. 2006 could be event #2)
It's just a thought though... the little# is gone in the blink of an eye
cheers,
Jeroen
Oh... maybe it would be a nice touch to make a "thank you" trophy for sponsors?
As a little token of apreciation...
cheers,
Jeroen
One other pssoible class:
Best Candid Photo of the event. People could post their photos and we could poll from a select set of pics for the popular choice winner. Then send the award by mail after the event.
Hmmmm?
A 'Thank You' trophy for the sponsors is a great idea.
Some other possible fun Auto-X awards could be for:
Best spin - Most cones - Most improved - Most consistant.
Double thumbs up!
I'll contact a vinyl cutter/sign shop Monday. I'll find out what format they like for the graphics. I'll post on monday night.
I think all the 1st place trophies should be bigger. Like 4"X 8"
I think the Vendor awards should be a wall plaque. Here's my Idea. same graphic only in a cut-a-way wood frame. It's hard to explain but I thought about some Assie Red Wood on the four corners. Kind of like corners in a photo album. Trust me, It will be cool.
I have a friend that works in a custom cabinet shop. He has some Austrailian hard wood for the bases. I guess It's very red in color. cost is about $ 5.00 a SF. I also about using a wood/acrylic/wood stacking with some source of light in the base. The acrylic would light up like fiber optics. We'll see about that part.
Ok, Here's the classes I decided on. This has been edited on 2/24/03
- Best original /4
- Best original /6
- Best V8 conversion
- Best other conversion
-Best paint
-Best Interior
-Best Custom (more than 4 mods any non factory style body kits, mods to include interior mods)
-People's Choice Overall Best of WCC 2004
-EDIT: The above are peoples choice. These have been reduced to 8 peoples choice awards. That shouldn't be too hard.
On the Long Distance awards .....
Long distance Overseas.
Long distance America.
Long distance 914 (on a trailer)
Long distance driving a 914.
We have no Idea who's coming at this point. These awards are nice recognition. I'm making them.
-EDIT: The above will be tallied and presented by the planning group. We will know location by pre-entry.
The tech quiz winner is also not included and that is an important award.
five for the planners to present. this should be do-able.
Will we also want to do trophies for different classes in the Auto-X
AX classes:
Stock: 1,2,3
Improved 1,2,3
Race 1,2,3
Most improved time
Cone King
We could also distiguish between 4s and 6s but it really depends on who's coming out.
-EDIT: the above could change based on input from the AX planner or someone that actually has AX experience. Someone post if these are not relevent classes and we'll change them. After Friday they stay as is.
The above will be presented by the AX planners.
5 for the AX planers to present. This should be ok.
Also I think all the awards should indicate the WCC 2004 Event Name, logo and the 914Club and be of excellent quality. These will be keepsakes
Best Candid Photo of the event. People could post their photos and we could poll from a select set of pics for the popular choice winner. Then send the award by mail after the event.
I'll make the photo trophy and we can have a contest on the BBS after the event. This will help promote interest in this event and next years event. This is a future promo to get peoples gears turning and thinking of this event and the next evetn at the same time. Good marketing.
-EDIT: The total of 19 awards. But the actual peoples choice is only 8. A few more than others purposed but some people will win more than one.
I'm leaving it up to Jeroen to make the final cut. He's doing the art. If he doesn't choose to make that many so be it.
We will also need Sponor awards T.B.A. I'm purposing plaques for sponors.
I still need to call the sign shop for file type for the art work.
BTW: I intended to cut the politically incorrect Hot Babe award. She snuck in there during cutting and pasting. At 1:30 AM stuff happens....
By my count that comes up to 28 awards.
(Did you count 2nd & 3rd place for the Auto-X classes + photo?)
If you don't have a problem making that many, I think it would be great to have as many people as possible take one home.
Jeff or Rob or ??? - Does somebody have a copy of the PCA Auto-X rule book so we know what classes the cars will run in? I don't think PCA classes are the same as SCCA classes?? It is our event so I guess we could do it the way we want. If we have some idea of what to expect we can be sure to have the right ammount and type of awards.
Rich,
The file format the vinyl shop needs if most likely .eps
Have them cut just a small # of stickers first (maybe 2 or 3), so you can experiment with the media blasting and judge the results.
No use in ordering (and paying) 30 stickers if the final result isn't gonna be what we reckon for... (I think it will, but you never know )
What size should the throphies and sponsor plaques be?
Lemme know and I'll start working on them
cheers,
Jeroen
Thats WAAAAAYYYYY too many awards. As peoples choice awards, attendees are going to have a hard time selecting even a few 'best' cars, much less near 30 of them, from a pool, of maybe only 40 or 50. So many awards dilutes their significance and only makes it harder...to build that many trophies, to vote on them and to judge them. That awards ceremony would take 2 hours to get through and most would lose attention. With that many awards, you may end up throwing them away because no one would win them. Please limit the awards to about 10 max.
We also dont want to call them 'Concours' either...the LPR PCA whose event we are attending has a judged Concours event and I dont want to confuse the day or distract from that. If 914club attendees want to join the PCA Concours they can, but our awards should not say Concours on them...
Delete the 'hottest babe' category...its not appropriate.
The tech quiz winner is also not included and that is an important award.
Vendors can get certificates to make it easier. Spend your time getting Alien together...
Please reconsider the awards and post a comprehensive list.
Ok, I went back in after some sleep and re-did the classes. Please read through the original Decision post and comment.
I broke them into easier to digest groups and attempted to adress some of the concerns.
This is what I would do:
Concours:
-Best /4
-Best /6
-Best conversion
-Best paint
-Best Interior
-People's Choice Overall Best of WCC 2004
On the Long Distance awards .....
-Long distance non 914.
-Long distance driving a 914.
AX Trophies for:
-Stock: 1
-Improved 1
-Race 1
AX Ribbons for:
-Stock 2,3
-Improved 2,3
-Race 2,3
-Most improved time
-Cone King
11 Trophies and 8 ribbons
Keep them idea's coming. I'll do a final review and revision later in the week. I will have a final cost later in the week.
Jeroen. I have a sign shop to work with. Send me a test file in eps. as an email attachment to cyfied@uslink.net.
I'll forward it to the sign shop for a bid. I only need a test file so if your working on the final style draft don't worry about it.
I'm a computer dork. Is an eps a big attachment?
Hey Rich,
I'll mail you a test-eps later tonight when I get home
What dimensions do you have in mind for the trophies?
cheers,
Jeroen
I thought the 1st place ones should be taller. That makes sense. 2nd and third could be the same size of the ease of planning.
How's 4"X8" for 1st and 4"X6" for 2nd and 3rd? If your work fits better on a different size just let me know. I'm easy
Hey Rich,
Sorry, I promised to send 'em last night... got home from the office at 01.00 and was to bushed to turn on the computer
The sizes are no problem, I'll get them to you this evening
cheers,
Jeroen
Rich,
I just e-mailed you the .eps file
Just a couple of notions...
If you want to etch these on the back side of the acrylic, you need to have them cut in mirror image
You'll also need to tell the vinyl cutter that these are stencils
I hope this will work with the mediablasting/etching (maybe it's too small / detailed)
cheers,
Jeroen
I saw this once on Trading Spaces, what can I say I work at home and the tv is always on, where they used a chemical etching agent that brushed on and rinsed off with water. It looked nice. Probably pick it up at any good hobby store like Michaels.
Sounds smart (and easier)
On a related note...
I'll be on a two week vacation this sunday
Before I leave, I'll e-mail the designs I've got so far to Sean (if you don't mind, Sean)
So incase anyone needs something done with the logo's in one way or the other, Sean can take care of it
(and you don't have to wait untill I return)
cheers,
Jeroen
send me the fonts as well.
Thanks Jeroen!
Hey Jeroen, Resend the eps. I didn't get the mail. send it to:
cyfied@uslink.net
Jeff,
If he can't get it done. We can use one of my domains that is sitting vacant at the moment. http://www.moronthrottle.com. I can do a simple page there with info on it.
edit:
that's nice it's down. hmmm gotta fix that one!
Jeff,
Please gather all the info that needs to be on the website for me, and put it in an e-mail ( jeroen@berloth.nl )
I will try my very best to put up a website before I leave, but I have no time to browse throug all the threads to collect the info (with the chance of me picking the wrong info)
I've got about 2 weeks of work to finish at the office before I leave, so my time is really scarse right now (I usually don't get home before 01.00 in the morning)
IMO there's too many uncertain factors right now about the event planning that we can actually have people register for it...
cheers,
Jeroen
I'll put the event site on the club domain somewhere and add a link on every 914world.com page (prolly replace the paypal donate button with the event logo)
That way, the other admins can work on it as well while I'm gone
cheers,
Jeroen
Thanks Jeroen, I received the file. I'll get a quote ASAP for the stencils. I will then be able to complete the trophy budget.
Tell him we'll mention his name on the event website as a sponsor if he does it for free or dirt cheap
If he doesn't, tell him we'll mention that on the website as well
cheers,
Jeroen
ok, I had a conference with the sign shop today. Katie is getting me a quote from the Boss. I'm having them cut out a few test stencils. I'll do a test and post it.
My questions are:
Do we leave the word Concours on the awards or do we eliminate it? How does everyone feel about it?
Look at Jeroens design. The number "1" in the example Jeroen sent to me I assume stands for 1st place?
We shouldnt use the word Concours on the awards, referring to the event or anytime. I have assured the LPR group...whos Concours event we are attending...that we are NT having our own Concours.
The '1' is Jeroens idea opf indicating this 2004 event as the first event...presumably in a series...
Rich,
The one I send you was "just an example" so you can get a quote and maybe try if the etching works
We can put up the final wording/designs a little later
I'll e-mail the different designs to Sean later today and he can wrap them up if needed before I get back from vacation
cheers,
Jeroen
ps. Instead of "concours" we could use "show & shine" or sumptin'
I uploaded the logo´s to this folder on the club-server
http://914world.com/westcoastclassic/logos/
I´m sure Sean can modify ´em if/when needed
cheers,
Jeroen
I just spoke to the vinyl cutter. They tried to cut the letters in heavy stock. The concours letters are very small. I asked them to try to bump them in size a little so I can run a test piece. Doesn't look like I'll get a sample or have any pricing till next weekend.
Rich,
If it´s gonna be a problem, try contacting Patrick Pickerell (he´s a member on the BBS and hosting the next 9:14 breakfast)
I think he should be able to laser engrave the acrylic for us if the vinyl/etching doesn´t work out...
cheers,
Jeroen
Great, Ill give the vinyl guys the week. If they can pull it together I'll can um and move on.
I'm getting closer. I hope to have a sample mid week next week along with pricing.
Called the Vinyl guy. The mask is cut. I'm having him do a sample piece for us first. He promised it for tomorrow. We'll see....
Here's the Sample!
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Looks awesome!
Now I just got to figure out a way to win one of those!
Nice work!
Demick
Here's a sample with a coke can next to it. I plan in doing the base in a wood/ acrylic/ wood sandwich. Any final comments on classes speak now or forever hold your gas!
BTW; Anyone upposed to posing a trophy picture on the BBS to stir things up!
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WOW!!! That looks just f#@&ing awesome!!!
Turned out even better than I imagined
How hard was is to do?
Very cool to see a digital computer design come to life on the other side of the planet
And yes, feel free to post pics on the BBS
This is something to lust after for sure.
cheers,
Jeroen
BTW; This was done with a lazer! Coool!
Great job Rich.
I like it. A lot.
SuperblyExcellent-O-MunificentlyProlificTrophyMaker-Meister!
You are a contender for the MostSkilledCraftsman I dare say.
Is there an easy way to add a winners name to the trophy after the event? Given any consideration to using colored plex?
Please also post a list hgere in this closed forum of the final Awards categories. I need to create the Peoples Choice ballots for the Event Brochure.
Did you recall my previous post about a '914Club Concours' trophy, and that I though it might conflict with the LPR Concours also being held on the Sunday of the event? Some of our atttendees have indicated they will show in the LPR Concours. I dunno...I suppose they can show in both Concours...? Anyone else have an opinion about this?
I think we came up with "show 'n shine" instead of concours, but that was after I send Rich the file for the "prototype"
Rich, lemme know if you need me to make different files for the different throphies or if the shop can change the wording
cheers,
Jeroen
Ok, Here's the classes I decided on. This is the final cut. Jeff needs this done now.
- Best original /4 Size for this group of trophies 8" X 4"
- Best original /6
- Best V8 conversion
- Best other conversion
-Best paint
-Best Interior
-Best Custom (more than 4 mods any non factory style body kits, mods to include interior mods)
-People's Choice Overall Best of WCC 2004 Any car in any class one can win this.
Overall Best of WCC 2004 Will Be Size 8" X 4" with a taller base. This will be the premier trophy of the event.
The trophies will have Concours replaced with "show 'n shine" as we discussed.
-EDIT: The above are peoples choice. These have been reduced to 8 peoples choice awards. That shouldn't be too hard.
On the Long Distance awards ..... These will be plaques Size TBA
Long distance Overseas.
Long distance 914 (on a trailer)
Long distance driving a 914.
These will be presented by the planning committee. I don't want be in charge of the trophies and win stuff others could have. I will exclude my self from winning as a member of the planning commitee. Who knows, we may have some east coasters attend.
These awards are nice recognition.
-EDIT: The above will be tallied and presented by the planning group. We will know location by pre-entry.
The tech quiz winner is also not included and that is an important award.
I will have an Acrylic wall plaque made for this catagory
4 for the planners to present. this should be do-able.
Will we also want to do trophies for different classes in the Auto-X
AX classes:
Stock: 1,2,3 First place size will be 8" X 4" 2nd and third will be 6" X 4" Sponsored By Raby's Aircooled Technology
Improved 1,2,3
Race 1,2,3
Most improved time (Plaque) Size TBA
Cone King (Plaque)
I'm not adding any more trophies for the AX this year. Lets see how attendence and participation goes this year. We will be better able to plan for the next event.
9 trophies and 2 plaques for the AX planers to present. This should be ok.
Best Candid Photo of the event.
People could post their photos and we could poll from a select set of pics for the popular choice winner. Then send the award by mail after the event. I'll make the photo trophy and we can have a contest on the BBS after the event. This will help promote interest in this event and next years event. This is a future promo to get peoples gears turning and thinking of this event and the next evetn at the same time. Good marketing.
Club will decide this one. it should be done as a plaque.
The total of 17 Trophies and 7 Plaques. But the actual peoples choice is only 8.
We will also need Sponor awards T.B.A. I'm purposing plaques for sponors.
Hey Rich,
Sponsors are on their way.
Is it still possible to include the sponsors on the trophies for "adopted" events?
cheers,
Jeroen
Ok, thanks!
Will keep ya posted...
cheers,
Jeroen
I will bring the tropht list to the shop on Friday and have a quote friday night. If there are any sponsors that need to be added Thursday night is the cut off.
FYI on the awards plaques:
We currently do not have any registrations for overseas. You can probably skip making this plaque.
On the otherhand, we do have a couple guys coming from the east coast, one in a 914 and one flying in.
I thought we should compute mileage calculations to confirm teh awardees, using mapquest to the breakfast site. Does that seem ok?
Hey Rich,
There is a good chance that Jake Raby's Aircooled Technology will be sponsoring the AX.
Basically what happened is that he wanted to donate $200 for some extra exposure, so I offered him the option of adopting/sponsoring the AX and have his name on the AX throphies
I told him that if he wants that option, he'd have to let us know VERY FAST
I knew your deadline was tonight for any changes on the throphies...
I hope to have an answer from him before tonight
If not, then just go ahead as planned. In that case Raby's shit out of luck on sponsoring the AX (and us on an extra $100)
cheers,
Jeroen
maybe he thought Jake's logo would go on it?
No extra logo, just the words...
cheers,
Jeroen
Rich I think Jeroen indicated that Jake wants it to read "Raby's Aircooled Technology"...not Jake Raby.
oops, I've been out of town and I'm behind in my work. I was speed reading and that's what my minds eye saw. I'll be sure to have it done correctly. I'm going to the troghy shop tomorrow. (today) just came in from working on the car. 2:00 am here....
Nope, no othere sponsored events, just the AX
Thanks for handling this Rich
cheers,
Jeroen
Excellent!
cheers,
Jeroen
Trophy order is in. Cost will average around $ 24.00 ea. The original est. was around $ 30.00.
We still have a couple of spots on the sponsor t-shirt ya know
hint-hint
cheers,
Jeroen
How much will the total be with the plaques cost, Rich?
Whats the best way to pay you for these?
Will you be bringing these with you or shipping them?
I picked up the trophies today. Plaques will be ready tomorrow. I have a friend working on the bases tonight.
Excellent!
cheers,
Jeroen
Here's a sample of the base prior to applying the finish. My co-driver for the road trip made them tonight! The wood is a eucalyptis type wood called Jara. The wood is from Australia.
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looks bitchin'!! Way to go Rich!!!
Jen
They are SOOOO what I hoped for...
Fantastic job Rich!!!
cheers,
Jeroen
Beautiful Rich!
I want one.
Guess I'll have to drive fast in the auto-x 'cause I sure ain't gonna win one in the car show.
Beautiful!!!!
I also won't be winning any peoples choice awards so I need to do well at the autocross as well!
Demick
When the others see these awards, I'm sure it's gonna be a real competitive AX
cheers,
Jeroen
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