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Red-Beard
post Nov 22 2004, 01:42 PM
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post Nov 22 2004, 01:53 PM
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Yikes! who did that? Anyone we know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) At least they said please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Did everything make it unharmed?
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post Nov 22 2004, 01:57 PM
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post Nov 22 2004, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(bondo @ Nov 22 2004, 11:53 AM)
At least they said please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Is that what it says? I thought it said "UP DUMASS" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)

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post Nov 22 2004, 02:00 PM
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Was there an entire transmission in there at one point? Thats a pretty beat up looking box. I bet a lot of stuff fell out.
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post Nov 22 2004, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Nov 22 2004, 11:59 AM)
QUOTE(bondo @ Nov 22 2004, 11:53 AM)
At least they said please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Is that what it says? I thought it said "UP DUMASS" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now that you mention that, it does kinda look like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 22 2004, 02:06 PM
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I wonder what it looked like before it left.. I once shipped a couple heavy things (~20 lbs each), and I packed them very carefully... large box, 3-4" of packing popcorn between the items and all the way around the items. Everything was packed tightly, and nothing could move at all. Lots of tape, there was no way it could come open.. I was quite satisfied that it would make it unharmed. But someone or something at UPS ripped an entire corner off the box, and all the popcorn leaked out! Then they tossed the box around enough that one of the heavy items beat the crap out of the other. Moral of the story: never underestimate UPS... and if you really care, pack it in a wooden crate.
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post Nov 22 2004, 02:17 PM
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Heh.....I'm pretty anal about packing "stuff".

I once sent a 2.4/2.7 crank & rods to a guy.
The parts were fine, but he raved about the box.....of course I emailed instructions as to how to open the thing (screwed & glued except for the "open here" side). Fortunately he had a screwdriver. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Even UPS couldn't fuck up that thing.
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post Nov 22 2004, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Nov 22 2004, 11:59 AM)
QUOTE(bondo @ Nov 22 2004, 11:53 AM)
At least they said please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Is that what it says? I thought it said "UP DUMASS" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)

Jen

laugh. Maybe...
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post Nov 22 2004, 02:56 PM
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I do shipping and recieving every day.

Looks like that was an old used box to begin with. Then it was taped to death with cheep tape that probably didn't stick when it was first taped anyway.
If that was all the items that were in it, it looks like the box was Way too big for the items. Or if anything, definatly missing a sh*tload of packing material. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Nov 22 2004, 03:03 PM
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Ask Bob O. When he shipped me some wheels in two boxes and only 1.5 showed up. F UPS! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) I bet I know whose stuff that is...I hope you can still use it.
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post Nov 22 2004, 03:07 PM
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Is that what it says? I thought it said "UP DUMASS" lol2.gif


Thats what I read. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Then I thought about how stupid the guy was because he couldn't spell dumb Too much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) i guess.
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post Nov 22 2004, 03:12 PM
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Doesn't surprise me...

Worked at UPS for a short period of time. If you knew how those employees treated boxes marked "fragile" you would never ship with them again.
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post Nov 22 2004, 08:35 PM
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Anything shipped via UPS should be able to pass a three foot drop test. That means the box should have enough packing material to cushion the contents from a three foot drop.

Doesn't look like the shipped packed that box worth a darn, let alone the ability to survive a three foot drop.
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post Nov 22 2004, 09:19 PM
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I'm probably in deep shit now...

But, a sense of humor is essential to owning a 914!

_My_ belief: The packing material _leaked_ out of he box. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 30 2004, 03:55 PM
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Shit....don't know how I missed this thread....THAT was my transmission. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

It was boxed in a smaller box and then reboxed, popcorn in each one including an extra 30lbs of packing material.

Redbeard was being nice....UPS gorillas really hosed that thing.

My insurance claim goes into today....

BTW....the UP DUMASS is not my hand/printing writing.... :finger2: UPS
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post Nov 30 2004, 04:19 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

That was an entire transmission at some point? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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post Nov 30 2004, 04:27 PM
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The rear cover plate with gears was in a seperate package inside the box...I am surprised the mounting ears were not broken off.

Even though the plate came thru OK....the gears are lost in space. I've been shipping crap....errrr, vintage parts for quite awhile....THAT's NOT how it left MY shop.

To ME....it looks like someone fucked up at UPS and repacked it....badly.

I insured it and it shipped at 100lbs. It showed up at James' place 30 lbs light.
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post Nov 30 2004, 05:06 PM
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Guys, you gotta think about this logically. You are going to pay less than the cost of a meal to ship a heavy package across the country with up-to-the-hour tracking and an ETA of just a couple of days. That alone is amazing.

Your package is going to pass through several sorting facilities in different states, travel thousands of miles by truck, train, and air. It will be moved from docks to box-cars to trailers to shelves to rollers to chutes to belts. It will be placed in semi-trailers where packages are stacked 8ft high. Will it be at the top of the 8ft stack or the bottom? Imagine the force placed on your package at the bottom of the 8ft stack when that 18-wheeler hit's a Montana-sized chuck-hole at 65mph. Imagine the forces on your package as the whole load shifts as a truck breaks to avoid a deer (or a moron in a Durango). Ever seen train-cars being linked up? It's not very gentle on your package burried deep in that box-car.

I'm sure that UPS would oblige if you'd like to have your packages delivered on a velvet pillow, but don't expect to pay the typical $15.

Everybody thinks package damage happens when some guy has his hands on your box. Nope. It happens durring the travel or sorting. Sometimes something goes wrong and a good package is damaged - but 90% of all damage I saw was due to poor packaging. I did shipping for a national scientific lab. They sent and recieved huge-value delicate instruments to/from other labs on a weekly basis via UPS. They never had any problems because they packed their shipments according to their fragility and value. If you're shipping $35,000 worth of precision optics, you don't put it in an old shoe box and then pitch a fit when it get's crushed.

You can't send a 100lb transmission in a single-layer carboard box. I don't care how much bubble-wrap you use. HINT: If your stuff feels like it's about to rip out of the bottom of the box when you pick it up then you need a pallet or a crate.

-Ben M. (Used to work for UPS as a kid. People who don't handle packages gently get fired. Period.)
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post Nov 30 2004, 05:22 PM
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There's no arguing your point...but even WITH proper packaging there are screwups.....

I've had three claims in ten years. One of them actually had tire tracks over the package.....
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