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> The 3.2 Conversion Thread, got to git 'er done
kdfoust
post Sep 25 2005, 02:58 PM
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I played with my 1.7 914 for a couple of years and really enjoyed it for what it was. It was a boisterous tart of a car, petite and tolerant. The 14 was anxious to please. Then I decided that I needed more power. You see I had purchased another Porsche during that time (impure thoughts, impure thoughts) and learned some things like they joy of power-on oversteer. The "other Porsche" was a brute. It would knock the wine glasses over at dinner and lear at the boss' wife. It insisted on shots of Jameson's for everybody before and after dinner. CHEERS! The twin-cam growl as the tach sweeps to 6400, the ability to drive the car with all the controls including the throttle is paradise. The logic, desire, no NEED for an LSD to keep everything hooked up on corner exit make it a must. That ripping up asphalt feeling of the enourmous four-piston calipers hauling it down from a buck-twenty is like heroin. I couldn't get enough of this new brute.

The 1.7 would never produce "power-on" anything much less oversteer. I had listened to the PCA AS class gurus talk about the joys of driving momentum cars and how much more skilled I'd become for the effort. The other Porsche's call was hard to resist. The 914 sat forlorn. It was starting to be in the way. I would be bleeding the brakes on the "other Porsche" and have to walk around the 914 to get a tool or a hose. I started to think crazy. Sell it as a roller, buy an RSA, trade it for a Ducati, swap it for a cage in the "other Porsche," remove the tags and VINs and park it on a street someplace where you wouldn't want to walk alone at night.

The 1.7 got to such a forlorn state through a series of missteps on my part. I had decided to put a stock 2.0 in the car which would have been a substantial upgrade in performance. I've seen a well prepared 914 with a stock 2.0 take TTOD on a tight AX course. As I got into the project I realized that I was NOT going to be happy with 94.7 BHP even in a light car like the 14. The "other Porsche" had already done it's damage. So the project became to build a hot 2.0. Then came carbs and heads and the other stuff to make this happen. 115.3 BHP that's the ticket. As I worked into the project my time in the garage became more and more precious to the point where I only had weekends to mess with the 14. Hey, I've already got a full-time job! I decided that spending all my spare time wrenching was sounding like a lot less fun that when I started. And all that work for 115.3 BHP, if I was lucky. No can do. So then I went to engine builders. Finding the best wasn't hard. Getting on the list wasn't hard. The waiting proved HARD. After a couple of delays that started lengthening the build to a year or more I grew despondant. I NEED an engine for the 14. I kicked the project around with the boys at work, I bored neighbors with mornful sobbing, I sat and looked into the open garage looking at the misserable POS of a car. I drove the "other Porsche" everywhere and loved it. Choices, choices. Build myself, hire an engine builder, flat bed the car to a shop and tell 'em to make 'er run, get a six. Of the things in the universe of my desire for the 14 a six turned out to be high on the list. So why was I waiting for a hyper-trick-4? Because I loved the idea of getting an engine that is so exclusive you have to wait a year and send a wheelbarrow load of Benji's to make it so. But the wait was killing my interest. FOOL! Desire meets luck meets a Pelican in VT. Send Benjamins, receive engine. 3.2 motronic, 20x HP. Order headers with megaphones that break windows at 6400 but this time it's in the 914.

The 1.7 version of the car was cute where the 3.2 version will be monsterous. The 1.7 version was frugal where the 3.2 will extravagant. The 1.7 vesion was OEM while the 3.2 is TUF. The 1.7 version is.....gone.

So here starts the project. I've sourced a 3.2 Motronic Carrera (magical words) engine from an '85. It's coming to me complete from exhaust tip to air cleaner. My goal is to shove that engine into the 14 as soon as it arrives. I want to go from the pallet to the engine bay with no garage storage time whatsoever. Parts are being sourced NOW. Electrical stuff is being sorted out NOW. The Bently Carrera manual has been ordered NOW. The engine will use the Motronic. The "other Porsche" has that. It will get headers, the heat will come from within. I picture the 914 becoming a brute as well, eating all the fillet in one gulp while reciting x-rated limericks from memory. I've got no great plan past all that. Well aside from a little power-on oversteer that I've got scheduled for November...

Later,
Kevin
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kdfoust   The 3.2 Conversion Thread   Sep 25 2005, 02:58 PM
ArtechnikA     Sep 25 2005, 03:35 PM
736conver   Kevin, Cool another 3.2 convert. Check out my bl...   Sep 25 2005, 04:00 PM
jim912928   cool...I've got a donor carrera so I'm als...   Sep 25 2005, 08:20 PM
rcarpen22   What transmissions are y'all using with the 3....   Sep 25 2005, 08:48 PM
kdfoust   736conver I looks like you're way down the ro...   Sep 25 2005, 09:20 PM
736conver   The wiring is very simple. I got rid of my relay ...   Sep 25 2005, 11:03 PM
ein 6er   you guys need to read this thread. lots of good i...   Sep 26 2005, 06:44 PM
736conver   I just read through that one a few days ago. Some...   Sep 26 2005, 07:18 PM
buck toenges   Guys, You can make or get somebody to make the con...   Sep 26 2005, 07:34 PM
Steve   I built mine about 5 years ago. Awesome conversion...   Sep 26 2005, 08:30 PM
kdfoust     Sep 26 2005, 10:53 PM
kdfoust   <...   Sep 27 2005, 07:46 PM
kdfoust   I was thinking about the -4 motor mounts. With th...   Sep 27 2005, 07:49 PM
kdfoust     Sep 27 2005, 07:53 PM
Steve   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Sep 27 2005, 08:03 PM
Steve   I forgot about the 914-6 sheet metal and PMS. I us...   Sep 27 2005, 08:41 PM
JOHNMAN  
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JOHNMAN  
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736conver   I dont think you have to flip the intake 180. If ...   Sep 29 2005, 12:01 PM
kdfoust   <...   Sep 29 2005, 04:30 PM
jim912928   Brian, You are making good progress...I need to d...   Sep 29 2005, 04:31 PM
736conver   Jim, I'm on a little vacation next week. Goi...   Sep 29 2005, 11:04 PM
Steve   <...   Sep 30 2005, 08:40 AM
kdfoust   I'm planning to buy the tach and the fuel pump...   Sep 30 2005, 04:26 PM
736conver   I would try to get as many connecting fuel lines a...   Sep 30 2005, 06:17 PM
Steve  
  Oct 1 2005, 03:14 PM
736conver  
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redshift   He paid someone! HAHAhahHAHAh heh...   Oct 1 2005, 06:02 PM
JOHNMAN  
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Steve     Oct 1 2005, 09:35 PM
ABC914   <...   Oct 2 2005, 10:33 AM
kdfoust   "It'll never fit." -Robert Ignoring Robert...   Oct 4 2005, 10:41 PM
swood   http://www.914world.com/b...   Oct 5 2005, 07:51 AM
swood   Do you also get to set up the a/c with that engine...   Oct 5 2005, 08:37 PM
redshift   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Oct 5 2005, 08:41 PM
bd1308   turbo, what the hell is that black thing??? Looks...   Oct 5 2005, 08:44 PM
736conver   Its an electric turbo http://www....   Oct 5 2005, 09:11 PM
bd1308   ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:13 PM
736conver   Its just the heater fan. Its the tubing that make...   Oct 5 2005, 09:15 PM
SirAndy   ...   Oct 6 2005, 12:14 AM
Steve   Best of luck with your project. It looks great. Le...   Oct 6 2005, 04:36 PM
kdfoust   Hey thanks Steve. I do want to look at your car. ...   Oct 6 2005, 06:40 PM
JOHNMAN   Kevin, It's looking good. You are way ahead ...   Oct 6 2005, 09:42 PM
kdfoust     Oct 6 2005, 10:47 PM
JOHNMAN   I am still undecided on the oil tank. I am leanin...   Oct 6 2005, 11:13 PM
Steve     Oct 6 2005, 11:27 PM
736conver   Kevin, It looks like you still need to remove the...   Oct 7 2005, 07:52 AM
kdfoust   I'm planning to remove the exhaust once the en...   Oct 7 2005, 08:57 AM
Steve     Oct 7 2005, 10:05 AM
kdfoust     Oct 7 2005, 10:30 AM
Joe Sharp   Gosh, 2 engine parties tomorrow and I'm going ...   Oct 7 2005, 11:35 AM
Aaron Cox   ...   Oct 7 2005, 11:37 AM
Joe Sharp   Thomas keeps telling me that there is an RR PCA A/...   Oct 7 2005, 12:32 PM
J P Stein   A couple pics of oil cooler/usable front trunk.   Oct 7 2005, 04:31 PM
J P Stein   And with the lid....which I no longer have use for...   Oct 7 2005, 04:33 PM
Steve   What groove? I better check the directions from ...   Oct 7 2005, 06:27 PM
kdfoust   It was a bit of a panic this afternoon. If someth...   Oct 7 2005, 07:15 PM
Steve   Yep that's the groove. Per the instructions I ...   Oct 7 2005, 07:45 PM
736conver   Updates. Is it running yet. You guys have had at ...   Oct 8 2005, 12:15 PM
brp914   while waiting for everyone to show up, someone tur...   Oct 8 2005, 02:33 PM
kdfoust   We did in fact break out the beer and pizza but no...   Oct 8 2005, 10:39 PM
kdfoust   We fitted the tranny, cutting the appropriate sens...   Oct 8 2005, 10:46 PM
kdfoust   Mike brought his enourmous truck jackstands over. ...   Oct 8 2005, 10:51 PM
kdfoust   Yeah baby! That's the 3.2 fully mounted i...   Oct 8 2005, 11:01 PM
736conver   Looks good whats next.............. I just got my...   Oct 8 2005, 11:27 PM
kdfoust   Well fire it up Brian. Put a video camera or a ta...   Oct 9 2005, 12:41 PM
kdfoust   Today, post-hump day, the engine is in the car. T...   Oct 9 2005, 01:42 PM
Joe Sharp   We need a DWD smilie. :PERMAGRIN: Joe   Oct 9 2005, 02:50 PM
Steve   I'm glad you enjoyed the drive. Its a fun car ...   Oct 9 2005, 03:05 PM
Steve   Here's the picture. I don't know what happ...   Oct 9 2005, 03:07 PM
redshift   :envy: Damn nice! http:...   Oct 9 2005, 03:33 PM
736conver   Well I missed getting mine started. jim912928 cam...   Oct 9 2005, 07:23 PM
Steve   Thanks Brian for the better picture. The kit I bou...   Oct 9 2005, 08:30 PM
JOHNMAN   When I did my first 3.2 conversion, I had the hard...   Oct 9 2005, 08:55 PM
736conver  
  Oct 10 2005, 07:26 AM
736conver   Kevin, If you havent already you should look at a...   Oct 10 2005, 07:31 AM
Steve   My injections lines also hit the trunk torsion bar...   Oct 10 2005, 07:51 AM
Root_Werks   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Oct 10 2005, 08:32 AM
kdfoust  
  Oct 10 2005, 12:39 PM
mikester   Okay, MAYBE I'm not too late. Kevin; You must...   Oct 10 2005, 03:57 PM
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