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Philly scammer car is back for sale |
kenpolives |
Mar 21 2004, 03:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Albany NY Member No.: 1,479 |
For all the folks who tried to look at the fully restored 2.0 outside Philly, it is now a 1.8. This is the same car from Woburn Mass where the owner freaked when so many people called and wanted to see the car first. He wanted me to drive 6 hours to look at the car myself rather than have a fellow memeber check it out and let everyone know the truth. To Him I say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pissoff.gif)
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cgnj |
Mar 21 2004, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
You mean this car.
car for sale Well, I'm pissed. I paid a deposit on that car and have a signed agreement of sale. And not for $2500. Went to pick it up yesterday. "I decided to keep it". Sign on this morning and see this thread, check the ad and see it was posted either before or while I was on the road to close the deal. |
East coaster |
Mar 21 2004, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,673 Joined: 28-March 03 From: Brigantine, NJ Member No.: 487 Region Association: None |
Damn.........for 2500 bucks, how bad can it be??? Is is rotted bad? Lose the rear spoiler and the monza exhaust and run it.
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boxstr |
Mar 21 2004, 09:16 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Someone had responded to the original ad or ebay and it was $2500 and they were told it was know $3500 because of a misprint or more than likely it was the interest that was given to the car when it was a 2.0.
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cgnj |
Mar 21 2004, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
My worthless piece of paper relects a price substantially less than $2500. I cannot honestly tell you if it is a 1.8 or 1.7. It has djet. I guess I could have crawled under and measured the cylinders. In my opinion, I didn't have enough jackstands and no 4x4s to insure my safety. I wasn't prepared because it described as "mint".
I'm still waiting for him to respond to my email. Carlos Yes I have a dog in this fight |
rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2004, 09:26 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
for fuck sake!! how can someone misprint an ad in the classifieds? it's not like it's some grocery ad in the newspaper. it's his fingers doing the walking.
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airsix |
Mar 21 2004, 01:21 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(cgnj @ Mar 21 2004, 06:03 AM) You mean this car. car for sale Well, I'm pissed. I paid a deposit on that car and have a signed agreement of sale. And not for $2500. Went to pick it up yesterday. "I decided to keep it". Sign on this morning and see this thread, check the ad and see it was posted either before or while I was on the road to close the deal. If you have a signed agreement, and (this is the most important part) you payed ernest money to the seller - THAT IS A BINDING CONTRACT. Hopefully the signed agreement acknowledges that ernest money was payed at signing. If this is the case, that car is yours. You take that magic piece of paper to court and it'll be like a trip to Burger King (ie. you get to have it your way). If you want serious trouble you get a oral agreemnet. If you want things to go well you get a written agreement. If you want a sure thing you sign a written contract and secure it with an ernest money paymemt. You do #3 and you will probably win 99 times out of 100. (IANAL) -Ben M. |
cgnj |
Mar 21 2004, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
Hi,
I'm guessing 3 to 6 months for a court date. Filing/service fees, required pretrial mediation, may be more time than I want to expend and the car becomes a marginal or bad deal. Although a 2 law firms that I do consulting for do have small remote offices in Montgomery County that could provide some support. To me this was a 3/4 year project car that fit well with my intended purpose to give it to my son. (13 yrs.) I have this QUOTE If you want a sure thing you sign a written contract and secure it with an ernest money paymemt See attached file. Take note of the rust disclaimer. Carlos Yes I have a dog in this fight Attached thumbnail(s) |
davep |
Mar 21 2004, 03:31 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,143 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(cgnj @ Mar 21 2004, 07:23 AM) My worthless piece of paper relects a price substantially less than $2500. I cannot honestly tell you if it is a 1.8 or 1.7. It has djet. If the car is a D-jet and not a 2.0 then it should be a 1.7, especially since it is a 1973 (last year for the 1.7). 1.7 had a round air cleaner, and the 2.0 was square. 1.7 has 4 stud intakes, the 2.0 has 3 studs. Was it drivable? If the tranny is okay, then about half the investment is covered. DaveP |
kenpolives |
Mar 21 2004, 03:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Albany NY Member No.: 1,479 |
Get you money back and somebody take the classified add off. This "Bernie" has fed everyone a bunch of crap. I can't beleive I thought of driving down a few weeks ago to see this P.O.S. car. I never thought I'd be happy to have freezing rain.... but it saved me that day. Does the car still have the Mass plates? I'd ask to see a title, if he doesn't have it call the local police tell them he may be selling stolen property.
If anyone see's the car, bring the big pointy screwdriver and see if you can get the car to fold in half. |
seanery |
Mar 21 2004, 04:02 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I thought about removing the ad, but I'm not sure I have access to do that.
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GWN7 |
Mar 21 2004, 06:52 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I'd contact the local police. You have what appears to be a bill of sale and money has changed hands. He has refused to give you the car as per the terms of sale and is advertising the car forsale again by having the ad listed here. Copy and print the ad from the classified section and take that with you. If the local police don't want to get involved go to the state police. Looks like fraud to me. Cheaper than paying a lawyer and might be faster.
If the police investigate this, they might seize the car untill the case is over or if they visit him he might finalize the deal with you with out your having to sue. |
scotty |
Mar 21 2004, 06:59 PM
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The Fun Never Stops Group: Members Posts: 773 Joined: 20-May 03 From: Portland. Oregon (SW) Member No.: 718 Region Association: None |
I'd donate some of my miles to fly Brad out to talk with this fellow. It doesn't sound too good <_<
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cgnj |
Mar 21 2004, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
Hi,
Please don't delete the ad. I have already saved it. I don't know if multiple people being able to produce and ad would help, but if some of you could save it in case I need it I would appreciate it. I may have a "cause of action" here and will float it by some friends who are in the business tommorrow. Please be aware that Bernie has told me that he is an attorney. I think I'll se if he's listed on the PA. Bar. Post your comments with that in mind. By the way he did finally call me. Wants me to pay more. Carlos Yes I have a dog in this fight VIN 4732906264 (in case it ever goes on ebay and some noob no offense intended googles the vin) |
seanery |
Mar 21 2004, 08:01 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
pic of ad listing:
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seanery |
Mar 21 2004, 08:01 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
pic of ad:
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Gint |
Mar 21 2004, 08:37 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Hi, Please don't delete the ad. I have already saved it. I can delete it, (and I thought about doing just that) but I chose not too when I saw this post earlier today. Primarily for the reasons you stated. It occurred to me that you might want the ad inyact for any future litigation. If anything, I might change the expiration date so that it doesn't get removed unless the seller is smart enought to remove it. Thanks to Sean though, it's a moot point now since we have a copy of it. |
Gint |
Mar 21 2004, 08:51 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's already gone. Did an admin delete it or did the seller do it?
Since the ad is gone, so is he. I just deleted his account. He never validated it anyway. |
seanery |
Mar 21 2004, 09:39 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I did NOT remove it.
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Gint |
Mar 21 2004, 11:00 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
No worries Sean. I was just curious if the guy had the sense to delete it himself.
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