'73 2.0 with black bumpers & no vinyl sail panels? |
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'73 2.0 with black bumpers & no vinyl sail panels? |
dlkawashima |
Oct 29 2010, 06:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
Newbie question here. I thought all '73 2.0L cars came standard optioned out ..... chrome bumpers, vinyl sail panels, center console, alloy wheels, etc. But I see a '73 for sale with black painted bumpers, no vinyl on the sail panels, and aftermarket alloy wheels (assume it originally had steel wheels). The owner says this was called the 914 "Sport" model. Can anyone educate me on the history of this model? Thanks!
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tod914 |
Oct 29 2010, 07:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Most 73's came fully optioned, but not all. Big topic on the "S" in the Orginality forum. Should give you some enjoyable reading. Seen two no sail black bumper original cars. Rare.
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914Sixer |
Oct 29 2010, 09:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Might be a stock 1.7 car that has been upgraded to 2.0 L. 1.7 L did not come with the goodies. 73 2.0 SHOULD have the goodies with the exception of the front and rear sway bars as they were optional.
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Midtowner |
Oct 29 2010, 09:56 PM
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Ooooo! Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 3,316 Region Association: None |
This thread and the 914S thread in the Originality forum caught my attention. My 1973 914 2.0 has been in my family its entire life and is in original condition save for some bolt on parts such as 140 lb springs. For 36 years, I've always wondered why the car does not have the appearance group and now I may know why (Porsche marketing priorities, monetary exchange rates, etc). So, I guess a few "stripper" 914's do exist. This may be some good information to add into the "for sale" advertisement once I complete a clean up of the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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PanelBilly |
Oct 29 2010, 10:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,817 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In your family for 36 years and you're going to sell it?
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dlkawashima |
Oct 29 2010, 11:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
My 1973 914 2.0 has been in my family its entire life and is in original condition save for some bolt on parts such as 140 lb springs. For 36 years, I've always wondered why the car does not have the appearance group ..... Midtowner, if you have the original window sticker from the car, I am sure Tom T would be very interested in seeing it. In his "Legend of the 914S" thread, he states in message #42: "Steve Gaglione (Sahara Beige 73 2L in O&H "The Few, the rare...") recalled some late in the 73 MY which were not loaded with everything ...... I've never been able to verify that nor find any 73MY 2L window sticker with those extras not N/C or without the full AG+PG option lists, so I really don't know if they indeed sold any lesser equipped 73 2L's here." BTW, very nice looking car. |
Midtowner |
Oct 30 2010, 12:38 AM
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Ooooo! Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 3,316 Region Association: None |
In your family for 36 years and you're going to sell it? Yeah, crazy huh? New expensive house, new baby, etc. are the reasons it's time to sell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
Midtowner |
Oct 30 2010, 12:39 AM
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Ooooo! Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 3,316 Region Association: None |
My 1973 914 2.0 has been in my family its entire life and is in original condition save for some bolt on parts such as 140 lb springs. For 36 years, I've always wondered why the car does not have the appearance group ..... Midtowner, if you have the original window sticker from the car, I am sure Tom T would be very interested in seeing it. In his "Legend of the 914S" thread, he states in message #42: "Steve Gaglione (Sahara Beige 73 2L in O&H "The Few, the rare...") recalled some late in the 73 MY which were not loaded with everything ...... I've never been able to verify that nor find any 73MY 2L window sticker with those extras not N/C or without the full AG+PG option lists, so I really don't know if they indeed sold any lesser equipped 73 2L's here." BTW, very nice looking car. I hope I can find the Monroni. Will scan and post here if it is found. Thx. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 30 2010, 10:01 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,896 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Yes the factory made those cars. They had the sway bars center console and dual horns, yet black bumpers rear anodized trim and of all things, Mahle cast alloy wheels. The price point was better than the chrome bumpered fuchs alloyed 2.0 models. These were offered this way in 1973 only.
Newbie question here. I thought all '73 2.0L cars came standard optioned out ..... chrome bumpers, vinyl sail panels, center console, alloy wheels, etc. But I see a '73 for sale with black painted bumpers, no vinyl on the sail panels, and aftermarket alloy wheels (assume it originally had steel wheels). The owner says this was called the 914 "Sport" model. Can anyone educate me on the history of this model? Thanks! |
AndyB |
Oct 30 2010, 10:09 AM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Except for the dual horn and lack of fog lights that is exactly how mine is
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Niklas |
Oct 31 2010, 03:49 AM
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Porsche 914 Sweden Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 20-June 09 From: Sweden - Skivarp Member No.: 10,488 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Both my cars are like that.
One is a -72 1.7 the other is a -73 1.7. All black and no sailpanel and black bumpers and center console. Originaly sold new in germany and then imported to sweden for 20 years ago. |
Tom_T |
Nov 3 2010, 12:21 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
My 1973 914 2.0 has been in my family its entire life and is in original condition save for some bolt on parts such as 140 lb springs. For 36 years, I've always wondered why the car does not have the appearance group ..... Midtowner, if you have the original window sticker from the car, I am sure Tom T would be very interested in seeing it. In his "Legend of the 914S" thread, he states in message #42: "Steve Gaglione (Sahara Beige 73 2L in O&H "The Few, the rare...") recalled some late in the 73 MY which were not loaded with everything ...... I've never been able to verify that nor find any 73MY 2L window sticker with those extras not N/C or without the full AG+PG option lists, so I really don't know if they indeed sold any lesser equipped 73 2L's here." BTW, very nice looking car. As a matter of fact I got a chance to visit with Steve last week while I was in FL on Business, & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) at his collection! We were talking then about it may be essentially a rare "option delete" on the late model year 73 2.0 occasionally put forth to keep the price down. Steve's Sahara Beige is among the last of the 73 2L's & fully loaded. BTW - Mark - the ad for the 914S included F&R Sway Bars (Performance Group) as the included option package, as did Steve's, John/avidfanjpl, Murray/me733, mine & quite a few other of the "loaded" 914S/914-2.0's of 73 MY. I've not heard of a "914 Sport" - maybe it was yet another Porsche+Audi marketing name, or perhaps the PO/seller confused their ads for the "914 Super" - but that would be fully loaded. Yes please do post the window sticker &/or dealer invoice/BoS at the 914S topic in O&H. Jeff Bowlsby will probably pick it up from there to add to his collection & 914 info. data base. Oh & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) !!!! I put mine away when we started the family to restore/repair later. Maybe that's an option for you too, since it's essentially a one family ownership original`73 914 2.0 - & not many around anymore!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Think about it carefully before you sell! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
914Sixer |
Nov 3 2010, 06:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Tom,
I will try to get the information posted later. Page 2 of the dealer information for 73 breaks down the dealer order codes, 473434, 473454 and 473644. Page 3 breaks down the 4th digit this way: 473434= standard trim 473534=standard trim+comfort trim 473644=standard trim+5 comfort trim and sport trim. The ONLY dealer option code shown for the 2.0 is 473644. The other codes are for the 1.7. I hope this adds to the confusion. |
EdwardBlume |
Nov 3 2010, 05:04 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Maybe it would be good to know the VIN or month of production. Bet it was late since '74 saw cuts in features big time..
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dlkawashima |
Nov 4 2010, 01:14 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
Maybe it would be good to know the VIN or month of production. Bet it was late since '74 saw cuts in features big time.. Found an old 'for sale' ad for a black trim '73 2.0. Note the VIN #: 4732918366. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/pwr-tech.com-12234-1288854888.1.jpg) BTW, the local car I mentioned in my first post had a manufacture date of 05/73. |
914Sixer |
Nov 4 2010, 06:02 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Late production number would explain a lot. They had already changed over to the 74 production format. Probably one of those internal change never noted anywhere.
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Tom_T |
Nov 4 2010, 09:33 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Tom, I will try to get the information posted later. Page 2 of the dealer information for 73 breaks down the dealer order codes, 473434, 473454 and 473644. Page 3 breaks down the 4th digit this way: 473434= standard trim 473534=standard trim+comfort trim 473644=standard trim+5 comfort trim and sport trim. The ONLY dealer option code shown for the 2.0 is 473644. The other codes are for the 1.7. I hope this adds to the confusion. Hey Mark - that would be great if you could post all pages of that 73 document! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I had to wing-in with 72 & 74 stuff I found on-line to "prove" to PCNA that THEY mucked up calling my Beige #31 interior "black" (which is #11) on the first 2 trys they made at my COA!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) IIRC - Jeff Bowlsby has one late 73 MY Munroney window sticker on his classic 914 web-pages that shows something other than 473644, but it may just be the equivalent AG+PG for "outside of CA" (49 state) 2.0's. For those who haven't seen Jeff's info, go to the link below. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/ > (see window stickers, optional eqpt. & model nos. relative to this discussion - but check them all out!) You'll note there, that relative to the USA market for the above codes Mark has provided, that the Appearance Group (AG for USA) = Comfort Trim & Performance Group (PG for USA) = Sport Trim Mark - I await your posts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
zig-n-zag |
Nov 4 2010, 05:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 182 Joined: 18-May 06 From: Hawaii Member No.: 6,024 |
Seems that I have one. Door jamb date is 4/73. I bought it as a
parts/donor car for my '72. Gauge console, front and rear swaybars, even the side mirror is black. It had Ronal wheels. No-beam doors with scissor lifts. It didn't have a front bumper or valance, but the rear black bumper had a kind of chrome nerf bar bolted on. Vin #4732920632, engine case #GA004783, odometer shows 105k. I'll feel guilty if I cut her up, but it'll save my keepers. Nice thread! |
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