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> Christmas continued, More stuff from Jake
DNHunt
post Jun 21 2004, 09:21 PM
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I kinda hate to post this after seeing Demicks post. But, I got my heads and some other goodies back from Jake. It's gonna be hard to put together cause thy're so pretty to look at.


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post Jun 21 2004, 09:27 PM
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The business side. Looks like 44 X 36


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post Jun 21 2004, 09:29 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 09:31 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 09:34 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 09:37 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 09:40 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 09:43 PM
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Even an adjustable push rod to set valve train geometry


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post Jun 21 2004, 09:47 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 10:07 PM
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What type of build is this for?

Jake will do heads and kits? If so how long of a wait is there?

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post Jun 22 2004, 05:28 AM
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he doesn't do the heads in house. He determines the specs they require and they are done by HAM or HFM I think.

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post Jun 22 2004, 06:28 AM
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How much for the kit ? and is it for a 2270 motor? and how long was the wait?
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post Jun 22 2004, 09:17 AM
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His Kit included Nickies- So it was not cheap..

I do not do cylinder heads in house, I have a very close relationship with two different head technicians that build the heads 100% to my specifications. It works best this way as theycan concentrate only on heads, and I can concentrate only on the rest of the build and machine work. Those heads are particular to my combo- the combo will not work withiout the heads and the heads will not work without the combo!

The wait time on a kit is about 5 months, reason for this is that I treat the kit just like an engine I am going to build here, and do all machine work and etc.. when all preparation and mock up work is done its all boxed up instead of washed up and assembled.

It takes about 30 hours of labor to get a kit on the Fed Ex truck!
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post Jun 22 2004, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jun 22 2004, 07:17 AM)

It takes about 30 hours of labor to get a kit on the Fed Ex truck!

Just think how much cheaper these could be if you could train somone in China to do this work. Rather than paying $3000 for labor you'd be talking $300 I'm surprized no one has setup engine building shops over there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 22 2004, 09:45 AM
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Jake, those look like iron guides on the exhaust, or is it just a bad angle.
Also do you use inserts on the plug holes?


Nice looking stuff Dave.
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post Jun 22 2004, 10:07 AM
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If the heads have ANY cracks around the plug holes we core them, weld them up and then re-insert 12mm plugs.. Dave had good heads that had no cracks- very odd - so we used a copper insert just like BMW uses.. Works great.

As for China:
NO WAY IN HELL WOULD I PUT MY NAME ON SOMEONE ELSES WORK! ESPECIALLY SOMEONE FROM CHINA!

Everything we do is made with pride right in my back yard, in the same shop I have been working in since it was a Hog pen!
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Dave had good heads that had no cracks- very odd


Must be the fact that he is from the northern states.

Up here our heads rarely have cracks, you're more likely to have some dumb-ass PO that dropped a screw down the intake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jun 22 2004, 12:34 PM
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All it takes is an idiot that uses 5th gear too early...

Fifth gear is the head killer- guys! I won't use mine till I'm rolling atleast 75MPH!
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post Jun 22 2004, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jun 22 2004, 08:07 AM)

As for China:
NO WAY IN HELL WOULD I PUT MY NAME ON SOMEONE ELSES WORK! ESPECIALLY SOMEONE FROM CHINA!

Everything we do is made with pride right in my back yard, in the same shop I have been working in since it was a Hog pen!

You dont like people in China? I know plenty of great people there who could easily learn how to build an engine to your specs better than most people in the US.

But I would agree with your approach. You're better off staying low volume production where you can command great margins and create a specialty niche.
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post Jun 22 2004, 01:54 PM
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Jake... Please don't take this the wrong way, I mean it please don't.

All your stuff seems pricey from what I've seen, believe me I am sure that it is worth every penny from all that I have read on your site and elsewhere.

I guess my question is.... Is there anything that the average joe can get that will improve performance / start to build or improve an engine that is in the joe schmo budget range?
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