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lmcchesney |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 24-November 03 From: Ocala, Fl. Member No.: 1,381 Region Association: None ![]() |
I replaced the oil pressure sender on the top of my case with a sender which provides light activation and VDO oil pressure reading. How do I know which pole is for the light and which is for the pressure gauge?
The gauge also has three connectors for the gauge (not the connector for the light) which is marked +, G and grnd. What connects to what? Thanks, L. McC |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(lmcchesney @ Aug 6 2004, 06:49 AM) I replaced the oil pressure sender on the top of my case with a sender which provides light activation and VDO oil pressure reading. How do I know which pole is for the light and which is for the pressure gauge? The gauge also has three connectors for the gauge (not the connector for the light) which is marked +, G and grnd. What connects to what? do the poles on the sender have ANY markings ? + - switched (Terminal 15) +12VDC G - Gauge grnd - ground |
lmcchesney |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 24-November 03 From: Ocala, Fl. Member No.: 1,381 Region Association: None ![]() |
Thanks,
The poles of the sender is marked G and Mk. L. McC |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(lmcchesney @ Aug 6 2004, 07:14 AM) The poles of the sender is marked G and Mk. Mk is going to take some thinking - but by convention G is always gage, and by process of elimination ... you can also test this with an ohmmeter. you'll have continuity (real darn close to 0 ohms) between the Mk and the case if that's the light; G and the case should give you measurable resistance. |
machina |
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I have the same dual sender.
How can I be sure it will work with this gauge? dr Attached image(s) ![]() |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 6 2004, 07:29 AM) I have the same dual sender. How can I be sure it will work with this gauge? wire them up in your kitchen and dunk the sender into boiling water. or c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y heat a small container of oil and calibrate with a deepfry/candy thermometer. to be SURE you send the gage and the sender off to Palo Alto Speedo and get everything matched and calibrated. |
Demick |
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Ernie made me do it! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257 ![]() ![]() |
Hey Rich - does that mean that I can check my tire pressure with a thermometer? Sorry couldn't resist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(Demick @ Aug 6 2004, 07:40 AM) does that mean that I can check my tire pressure with a thermometer? actually - that's a good point, because if L is running an idiot light and pressure gage from his double-pole sender, it obviously CANNOT be the same double sender dv is using. (if it actually *is* the same double sender, one of them is not going to get 'the desired results' ... (for your problem, get a BIG vat of 350-degree oil. put in your tire. you will have no further problems with air pressure :-) ...) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Aug 6 2004, 11:38 AM) QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 6 2004, 07:29 AM) I have the same dual sender. How can I be sure it will work with this gauge? wire them up in your kitchen and dunk the sender into boiling water. or c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y heat a small container of oil and calibrate with a deepfry/candy thermometer. to be SURE you send the gage and the sender off to Palo Alto Speedo and get everything matched and calibrated. I think we are talking about the dual oil "pressure" gauge. Don't think that should go in boiling water, no? dr |
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doh! ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Tempe, AZ Member No.: 146 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
QUOTE(lmcchesney @ Aug 6 2004, 08:14 AM) Thanks, The poles of the sender is marked G and Mk. L. McC Check this out: VDO installation instructions |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 6 2004, 07:46 AM) I think we are talking about the dual oil "pressure" gauge. Don't think that should go in boiling water, no? you are correct... but accurate air pressure gauges are not too hard to come by, so if it's pressure we're talking about, there you go. |
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,231 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
How about a pic of this sender and where is it being procured?
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,454 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 6 2004, 07:29 AM) I have the same dual sender. How can I be sure it will work with this gauge? dr I'm working on this right now, been out in the garage last two hours with this and 911 tach. I started a similar thread last night... I just hooked up the 911 pressure gauge when turn the power on the gauge comes up to zero then when I start the engine it pegs the top. That can't be right, can it? I unplugged the ground and it stayed pegged at the top let the engine die and it drops to zero. what's wrong here? guess I should make a trip to No. Hollywood Speedo too. -Mike D. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Aug 6 2004, 06:47 PM) How about a pic of this sender and where is it being procured? this bugger, have to remote mount becuase it won't fit down in the tin. any 914 friendly place like pelican or aircooled.net has it. dr Attached image(s) ![]() |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
QUOTE(Mike D. @ Aug 6 2004, 03:20 PM) I just hooked up the 911 pressure gauge when turn the power on the gauge comes up to zero then when I start the engine it pegs the top. That can't be right, can it? I unplugged the ground and it stayed pegged at the top let the engine die and it drops to zero. verify your connections, of course. the ground may be provided (more or less well) by another connection. early 911's had 150-psi oil pressure gauges, the downside of which is that everything under about 15 psi looks like zero, which many considered alarming. (it's a 911, get used to zero oil pressure at idle :-) ...) anyway - mid-80's somewhere they yeilded to the complaints and in typical fashion, simply doubled the sensitivity of the gauge making it a 0->75 psi gauge, with more room to spread out the lower numbers. the gauge must match the sender ... i don't think any Porsche gauges match any aftermarket VDO senders ... |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 24-November 03 From: Ocala, Fl. Member No.: 1,381 Region Association: None ![]() |
Thanks everyone,
Gerry, that link was very helpful. One thing I picked up was the comment about using teflon tape on the sender may prevent the sender from achiving a ground. L. McC |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 10-August 04 From: The Netherlands, Europe Member No.: 2,499 ![]() |
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Aug 6 2004, 07:08 AM) QUOTE(lmcchesney @ Aug 6 2004, 06:49 AM) + - switched (Terminal 15) +12VDC G - Gauge grnd - ground Well, actually, the G stands for 'Geber'. 'Geben' is German for 'to give', so it is the pole that gives the information...but ' Gauge' will be fine as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just teflon tape it for sealing and groud the sender to something else. Anybody did this similar? Greetings, Walter |
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
That brake hose may have 10 x 1mm threads, but they're straight threads, and the case has tapered threads. I use a grease gun hose, which has tapered threads (and it's cheap!)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Moclips WA. Member No.: 640 ![]() |
Hmmm...so can the two terminal sender be used for only the idiot light by connecting only to the terminal not marked G? My engine has one of these, but the car only has an idiot light, no gauge.
Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.com |
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Ernie made me do it! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257 ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE(John Kelly @ Aug 20 2004, 11:49 AM) Hmmm...so can the two terminal sender be used for only the idiot light by connecting only to the terminal not marked G? My engine has one of these, but the car only has an idiot light, no gauge. Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.com Yep. |
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