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> Cheap Engines, 1911 cc - 100 hp
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post Sep 28 2004, 09:37 PM
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Jakes looking at making these kits available for what's a really reasonable price.

Here's the details: Engine Thread on Jakes Forum

I'll put them together for cheap labor.

He's only making four right now, but email him for details.
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post Sep 28 2004, 11:04 PM
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Yep,two of them sold today!

I really want to make it easier for guys to get their car done right and use my stuff. This is just the first step.

Many more to follow.
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post Sep 29 2004, 05:45 AM
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looks good..but im still saving for my 2056 rebuild...hopefully more than 100hp
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post Sep 29 2004, 10:42 AM
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one would think a kit for a 2.0, with the correct pistons would be the same price. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Sep 29 2004, 02:45 PM
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Weber'd 1911's rock. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) BTDT, and it was a blast.
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post Sep 29 2004, 02:52 PM
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1911's with 2.0 heads ROCK..


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post Sep 29 2004, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 29 2004, 08:42 AM)
one would think a kit for a 2.0, with the correct pistons would be the same price. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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1.7 cranks and rods can be had for almost nothing, 2.0 cranks and rods go for a pretty penny. Jake is trying to make some use ($) out of his undoubtedly abundant supply of these paperweights.
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post Sep 29 2004, 06:09 PM
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A 2.0 crank is 3 times the crank as a 66 stroke crank...

1.7/1.8 rods are 4 times cheaper than 2.0 rods.
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post Sep 29 2004, 07:40 PM
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got core (2.0). need kit. key is, all the bits and ends to assemble.

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post Sep 29 2004, 08:30 PM
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no sweat at all..........
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post Sep 29 2004, 08:48 PM
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Whats up with the STF? It appears to be down.
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post Sep 30 2004, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 29 2004, 09:52 PM)
1911's with 2.0 heads ROCK..


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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Feels more like 120 HP
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post Sep 30 2004, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 29 2004, 12:52 PM)
1911's with 2.0 heads ROCK..


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Wouldn't it make more sense to use 1.8 heads, being that this is a "econo" kit? That way you wouldn't have the added expense of hunting down 2.0 sheet metal? Besides, aren't the 2.0 heads more likely to crack than the 1.8? Or will the 1.8 heads limit your hp real bad?
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post Sep 30 2004, 12:31 PM
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I don't know what Jake's using for these kits. Shoptalk is down right now. But what you're saying makes sense. I don't think this is supposed to be an ULTIMATELY cheap kit. Just cheaper than the full engines Jake does.
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post Sep 30 2004, 01:53 PM
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It's good parts for less money due to the cores being cheap and plentiful.

The heads are 1.7 or 1.8 with 42x36 valves........

We are talking a complete engine kit for less than 2800 bucks if you have cores- Thats a steal especially since its got my combo.

Even with 1.8 heads or for that fact 1.7 heads this combo will make 100HP, I have never tested a bone stock 2.0 that made 100HP on my dyno.
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post Sep 30 2004, 03:11 PM
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What goes into making a complete kit? Does it include the valves & such along with all (totally) innards to fill a block? Sorry for my ignorance. I haven't gotten into the "engine internal" as yet but would sure like to.

I haven't known what I was doing when I took on any of the repairs since I got the car but I've learned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (I think)!

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post Sep 30 2004, 03:30 PM
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Everything to make a longblock.......
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post Sep 30 2004, 05:43 PM
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Ok, so let me rephrase the question: Why would you go with the added expense of 2.0 heads and sheet metal if you can get the same performance from a 1.8 head, properly built?
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post Sep 30 2004, 06:14 PM
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Ok, so let me rephrase the question: Why would you go with the added expense of 2.0 heads and sheet metal if you can get the same performance from a 1.8 head, properly built?


I just built a motor like this, 1.8 bottem end, fresh 2.0 heads, no additional costs since I had all the parts....it would have cost me more to rebuild the 1.8 heads, even more so to get them up to 2.0 standards (I thought I read that 2.0 are good for approx 10 hp right off the bat over the 1.7 and 1.8 heads)

what was meant with the "1911's rock" by Mike and Brad was to let people know that there is potential in the smaller stroke motors and that motors other than the 2.0 can be fun....my first 914 had a 1911 (1.8 based) and my driving instructors thought it pulled better than their 2.0 914's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif)
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Let me see if I hear the deal correctly.
$3799.00 get's me a crate of high quality parts?

I must assemble It myself ( risky ) or pay to get it assembled ( expensive ).

Seems like $5k or more to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I'm looking at a SIX conversion for under $4k, including a
running engine. ( that I can do myself )

To each his own...

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