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> Hydraulic Clutch w/Aftermarket, Pedal Cluster
Chris Julian
post Oct 29 2004, 11:03 PM
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Thanks Scott
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post Oct 31 2004, 02:12 PM
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here's a link to the input/output spreadsheet Chris build

hydr.clutch spreadsheet
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Chris Julian
post Nov 11 2004, 12:51 AM
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Well a couple of weeks and 600$ and it’s done.

Here’s the before and after photos. If anyone’s interested I will attach a list of components. BTW, no major cuts in the firewall. The new compact Tilton masters and Gurling remote reservoir cylinders fit tightly but do fit. I think the pedal cluster is maybe 2” closer to the seat but still feels fine for me (5’, 11” tall).

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post Nov 11 2004, 12:56 AM
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Not sure why the pics are so large there set to 800 x 400


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post Nov 11 2004, 12:57 AM
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post Nov 11 2004, 12:58 AM
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post Nov 11 2004, 12:59 AM
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post Nov 11 2004, 01:57 PM
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Is that bottom plate that the hydraulic pedal assembly and throttle pedal mount to custom.
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post Nov 11 2004, 02:34 PM
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That unit is sure pretty,but I went for a more simplistic route.
I bought a 964 pedal assembly at Hershey this past year for $50 .00 bucks and it grafted perfectly to the side of the 914 unit.
Works good with the Wilwood slave cyl.


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post Nov 11 2004, 02:35 PM
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Installed pic


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post Nov 11 2004, 02:56 PM
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damn Chris...that looks killer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ron, have you had any problems bleeding air out of the system??
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post Nov 11 2004, 03:10 PM
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Hey Ron, I wish I could have gone that route, I mean the 50$. I actually tried many things prior to going to this extreme. Since I am running the high torque ~450 ft lbs chevy install, the clutch required a little more input force then the stock pedal could handle. I found that the pedal assy was flexing and the master cylinder which I mounted to the firewall was also in need of additional rigidity. So rather then cut and weld, I decided to drop in a dedicated unit. To each his own........


And yes sj914 that is a custom lower plate assembly. I wanted a complete drop in assembly- throttle and all. I deally I would have welded in plates but this car has already gone through all of that and paint. So it's brackets and rivots at this point.

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post Nov 12 2004, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 11 2004, 12:56 PM)
Ron, have you had any problems bleeding air out of the system??

No problems bleeding air outa the unit.
I made the wife do the pedal pumpin while I laid on my back underneath workin the bleed screw on the Wilwood slave cyl.
I haven't touched the car in about 3 month's cause I've been workin on other things,but the other day I sat in it and hit the clutch pedal.Still workin fine,no leaks,and no air in the system.


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post Nov 12 2004, 08:32 AM
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How did you reinforce the floor where the peddle assembly is attached? From what I see it appears this assembly would still tend to flex if it is only mounted to the sheet metal floor pan. Is there a brace under the cylinders we can't see? I like the double brake master setup.

(edit) never mind went back to the photos and looked again.
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post Nov 12 2004, 11:22 AM
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So does this mean you are using dual brake master cylinders which allow you to set the bias front/rear? Is this a kit or did you put this together yourself? Care to share the parts list/supplier?
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post Nov 12 2004, 02:53 PM
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Guys,

yes this is a custom setup, not a kit. I took the Tilton dual peddle assy and an aftermarket 914 aluminum pedal set and melded them together with a large baseplate. The large plate allowed me to:
1, attach the throttle pedal and OEM linkage pivot assembly
2, spread the load over a broader area - Rick you are right I did add a support brace directly behind the two brake masters. The brace is tied directly to the welded body seam behind the pedals and boxes the entire assembly.-- very stiff
3, raise the assembly ~1/2", allowing me to locate the pedals ~1" further back.
4, install and remove the entire assembly.

If anyone is considering this keep in mind cost was about 600-700$ (purchased parts), and I spent at least 20 hours fabricating all the brackets and installing the assembly. Although most of the work was done on the bench there is fair amount of under-the-dash time required to test fit, ect.. One other thing to note, I used flexible braided lines off all the master cylinders. This simplified the install but added to the cost. I am also not sure what this will do to peddle feel. Typically hard lines are run straight to the back of the masters but that would have really complicated the install.


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Take a close look at this photo and you should see the rear brace


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